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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-07-29 07:06:54
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I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally = don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic = decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) =20 Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation = date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We = could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. =20 Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source files = in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, @since nearly = impossible, parameter alignment easy again. =20 Juergen =20 ________________________________ Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag = von Colin Sampaleanu Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 An: spr...@li... Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >> classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know if = I've >> worked on a particular file any more :-) >>=20 >> > I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones > ;-) > > Dmitriy. I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. Colin ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D4721&alloc_id=3D10040&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Alef A. <al...@jt...> - 2004-08-03 08:15:56
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Sorry, forgot about this. I'll add my +1 to removing them. Just use @author and @since. So the vote is: 3 for 5 against 1 neutral Alef > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li...=20 > [mailto:spr...@li...] > On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >=20 > So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? >=20 > Dmitriy. >=20 > Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >=20 > > 3 in favor > > 4 against > > 2 neutral > > > > > > William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > > > >> i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally=20 > I've always=20 > >> put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has=20 > also been=20 > >> the case in every open source project I have been involved in or=20 > >> used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to=20 > continue to do=20 > >> it... > >> > >> In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the=20 > build process=20 > >> ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed actually got=20 > >> deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for=20 > our Views so=20 > >> that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > >> > >> however, I also understand the problem with branch/merge...but why=20 > >> doesn't the -kk solution work? > >> > >> +0 for $Id$ > >> > >> later. > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> > >>> Let's give others a chance ;-) > >>> > >>> Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Harrop wrote: > >>> > >>>> Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >>>> > >>>> Shootout at noon? > >>>> > >>>> Rob > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: spr...@li... > >>>>=20 > [mailto:spr...@li...] On=20 > >>>> Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>> Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >>>> To: spr...@li... > >>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>>> > >>>> 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >>>> 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >>>> 1 neutral (Darren) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >>>> > >>>> =20 > >>>> > >>>>> I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to=20 > >>>>> blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to=20 > >>>>> branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise=20 > and Eclipse,=20 > >>>>> I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways,=20 > wherever I am. > >>>>> > >>>>> So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> =20 > >>>>> > >>>>>> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Dmitriy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I=20 > >>>>>>> personally don't think that they add much value. Of=20 > course, if a=20 > >>>>>>> democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll=20 > >>>>>>> concede ;-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the=20 > >>>>>>> creation date. That has been quite nice during our agile way=20 > >>>>>>> towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use=20 > version numbers=20 > >>>>>>> there now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all=20 > >>>>>>> source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is=20 > >>>>>>> probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment=20 > >>>>>>> easy again. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Juergen > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Von: spr...@li... im=20 > >>>>>>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>>>> An: spr...@li... > >>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version=20 > >>>>>>> tags > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my=20 > >>>>>>>>> classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's=20 > standardized,=20 > >>>>>>>>> I won't know if I've worked on a particular file=20 > any more :-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes=20 > or create=20 > >>>>>>>> new ones > >>>>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when=20 > >>>>>>> trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a=20 > >>>>>>> conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be any... There=20 > >>>>>>> seems to be a trend to going away from using them in=20 > files, by=20 > >>>>>>> some people, for this reason. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Colin > >>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed=20 > the changes=20 > >> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past=20 > few weeks?=20 > >> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source=20 > >> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site.=20 > >> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >> Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > >> Spr...@li... > >>=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > >> r > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed=20 > the changes=20 > > on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past=20 > few weeks?=20 > > Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source=20 > > Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site.=20 > > www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > > Spr...@li... > >=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the=20 > changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the=20 > past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are=20 > now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes=20 > on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com=20 > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 |
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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-08-04 08:59:37
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OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - in an = automated fashion? =20 Juergen =20 ________________________________ Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag = von Alef Arendsen Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 An: spr...@li... Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags Sorry, forgot about this. I'll add my +1 to removing them. Just use @author and @since. So the vote is: 3 for 5 against 1 neutral Alef > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] > On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? > > Dmitriy. > > Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > > 3 in favor > > 4 against > > 2 neutral > > > > > > William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > > > >> i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally > I've always > >> put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has > also been > >> the case in every open source project I have been involved in or > >> used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to > continue to do > >> it... > >> > >> In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the > build process > >> ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed actually got > >> deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for > our Views so > >> that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > >> > >> however, I also understand the problem with branch/merge...but why > >> doesn't the -kk solution work? > >> > >> +0 for $Id$ > >> > >> later. > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> > >>> Let's give others a chance ;-) > >>> > >>> Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Harrop wrote: > >>> > >>>> Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >>>> > >>>> Shootout at noon? > >>>> > >>>> Rob > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: spr...@li... > >>>> > [mailto:spr...@li...] On > >>>> Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>> Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >>>> To: spr...@li... > >>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>>> > >>>> 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >>>> 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >>>> 1 neutral (Darren) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >>>> > >>>>=20 > >>>> > >>>>> I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to > >>>>> blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to > >>>>> branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise > and Eclipse, > >>>>> I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, > wherever I am. > >>>>> > >>>>> So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> > >>>>>> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Dmitriy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I > >>>>>>> personally don't think that they add much value. Of > course, if a > >>>>>>> democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll > >>>>>>> concede ;-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the > >>>>>>> creation date. That has been quite nice during our agile way > >>>>>>> towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use > version numbers > >>>>>>> there now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all > >>>>>>> source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is > >>>>>>> probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment > >>>>>>> easy again. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Juergen > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Von: spr...@li... im > >>>>>>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>>>> An: spr...@li... > >>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version > >>>>>>> tags > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my > >>>>>>>>> classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's > standardized, > >>>>>>>>> I won't know if I've worked on a particular file > any more :-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes > or create > >>>>>>>> new ones > >>>>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>=20 > >>>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when > >>>>>>> trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a > >>>>>>> conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be any... There > >>>>>>> seems to be a trend to going away from using them in > files, by > >>>>>>> some people, for this reason. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Colin > >>>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > the changes > >> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > few weeks? > >> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source > >> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >> Springframework-developer mailing list > >> Spr...@li... > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > >> r > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > the changes > > on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > few weeks? > > Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source > > Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > > www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > Spr...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the > changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the > past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are > now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes > on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Alef A. <al...@jt...> - 2004-08-04 09:43:50
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I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall = Thomas or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to = org.springframework about a year ago... Alef > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li...=20 > [mailto:spr...@li...] > On Behalf Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >=20 > OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then -=20 > in an automated fashion? > =20 > Juergen > =20 >=20 > ________________________________ >=20 > Von: spr...@li... im=20 > Auftrag von Alef Arendsen > Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 > An: spr...@li... > Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sorry, forgot about this. >=20 > I'll add my +1 to removing them. >=20 > Just use @author and @since. >=20 > So the vote is: >=20 > 3 for > 5 against > 1 neutral >=20 > Alef >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spr...@li... > > [mailto:spr...@li...] > > On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > > To: spr...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > > So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? > > > > Dmitriy. > > > > Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > > > > 3 in favor > > > 4 against > > > 2 neutral > > > > > > > > > William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > > > > > >> i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally > > I've always > > >> put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has > > also been > > >> the case in every open source project I have been involved in or=20 > > >> used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to > > continue to do > > >> it... > > >> > > >> In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the > > build process > > >> ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed=20 > actually got=20 > > >> deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for > > our Views so > > >> that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > > >> > > >> however, I also understand the problem with=20 > branch/merge...but why=20 > > >> doesn't the -kk solution work? > > >> > > >> +0 for $Id$ > > >> > > >> later. > > >> Bill > > >> > > >> > > >> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > >> > > >>> Let's give others a chance ;-) > > >>> > > >>> Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Rob Harrop wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > > >>>> > > >>>> Shootout at noon? > > >>>> > > >>>> Rob > > >>>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: spr...@li... > > >>>> > > [mailto:spr...@li...] On > > >>>> Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > > >>>> Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > > >>>> To: spr...@li... > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and=20 > @version tags > > >>>> > > >>>> 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > > >>>> 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > > >>>> 1 neutral (Darren) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>=20 > > >>>> > > >>>>> I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to=20 > > >>>>> blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to=20 > > >>>>> branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise > > and Eclipse, > > >>>>> I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, > > wherever I am. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid=20 > of them)... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>=20 > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>> Dmitriy. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> =20 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I=20 > > >>>>>>> personally don't think that they add much value. Of > > course, if a > > >>>>>>> democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll=20 > > >>>>>>> concede ;-) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the=20 > > >>>>>>> creation date. That has been quite nice during our=20 > agile way=20 > > >>>>>>> towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use > > version numbers > > >>>>>>> there now. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all=20 > > >>>>>>> source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is=20 > > >>>>>>> probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter=20 > alignment=20 > > >>>>>>> easy again. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Juergen > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Von:=20 > spr...@li... im=20 > > >>>>>>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > > >>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > > >>>>>>> An: spr...@li... > > >>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and=20 > @version=20 > > >>>>>>> tags > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> =20 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code=20 > through my=20 > > >>>>>>>>> classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's > > standardized, > > >>>>>>>>> I won't know if I've worked on a particular file > > any more :-) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> =20 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes > > or create > > >>>>>>>> new ones > > >>>>>>>> ;-) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy. > > >>>>>>>>=20 > > >>>>>>>> =20 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when=20 > > >>>>>>> trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a=20 > > >>>>>>> conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be=20 > any... There=20 > > >>>>>>> seems to be a trend to going away from using them in > > files, by > > >>>>>>> some people, for this reason. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Colin > > >>>>>>> =20 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> =20 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > > the changes > > >> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > > few weeks? > > >> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG-=20 > Open Source=20 > > >> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > > >> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > > >> Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > > >> Spr...@li... > > >> > >=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > > >> r > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > > the changes > > > on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > > few weeks? > > > Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG-=20 > Open Source=20 > > > Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > > > www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > > > Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > > > Spr...@li... > > > > >=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed=20 > the changes=20 > > on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past=20 > few weeks?=20 > > Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source=20 > > Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site.=20 > > www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > > Spr...@li... > >=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the=20 > changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the=20 > past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are=20 > now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes=20 > on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com=20 > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the=20 > changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the=20 > past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are=20 > now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes=20 > on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com=20 > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-04 13:53:56
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I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. I can do this with a regex search and replace. It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk to ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with binary files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote the other way. Will try to do this at an opportune time... Colin Alef Arendsen wrote: >I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall Thomas or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to org.springframework about a year ago... > >Alef > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spr...@li... >>[mailto:spr...@li...] >> On Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM >>To: spr...@li... >>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >> >>OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - >>in an automated fashion? >> >>Juergen >> >> >>________________________________ >> >>Von: spr...@li... im >>Auftrag von Alef Arendsen >>Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 >>An: spr...@li... >>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >> >> >> >>Sorry, forgot about this. >> >>I'll add my +1 to removing them. >> >>Just use @author and @since. >> >>So the vote is: >> >>3 for >>5 against >>1 neutral >> >>Alef >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: spr...@li... >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] >>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM >>>To: spr...@li... >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>>So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? >>> >>>Dmitriy. >>> >>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>3 in favor >>>>4 against >>>>2 neutral >>>> >>>> >>>>William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally >>>>> >>>>> >>>I've always >>> >>> >>>>>put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has >>>>> >>>>> >>>also been >>> >>> >>>>>the case in every open source project I have been involved in or >>>>>used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to >>>>> >>>>> >>>continue to do >>> >>> >>>>>it... >>>>> >>>>>In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the >>>>> >>>>> >>>build process >>> >>> >>>>>ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed >>>>> >>>>> >>actually got >> >> >>>>>deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for >>>>> >>>>> >>>our Views so >>> >>> >>>>>that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. >>>>> >>>>>however, I also understand the problem with >>>>> >>>>> >>branch/merge...but why >> >> >>>>>doesn't the -kk solution work? >>>>> >>>>>+0 for $Id$ >>>>> >>>>>later. >>>>>Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Let's give others a chance ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>>Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Rob Harrop wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Shootout at noon? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On >>> >>> >>>>>>>Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>>>>>Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 >>>>>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>@version tags >> >> >>>>>>>3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) >>>>>>>3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) >>>>>>>1 neutral (Darren) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Colin Sampaleanu wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to >>>>>>>>blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to >>>>>>>>branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>and Eclipse, >>> >>> >>>>>>>>I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>wherever I am. >>> >>> >>>>>>>>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>of them)... >> >> >>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I >>>>>>>>>>personally don't think that they add much value. Of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>course, if a >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll >>>>>>>>>>concede ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the >>>>>>>>>>creation date. That has been quite nice during our >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>agile way >> >> >>>>>>>>>>towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>version numbers >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>there now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all >>>>>>>>>>source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is >>>>>>>>>>probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>alignment >> >> >>>>>>>>>>easy again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Juergen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Von: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>spr...@li... im >> >> >>>>>>>>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>>>>>>>>>An: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>@version >> >> >>>>>>>>>>tags >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>through my >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>standardized, >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I won't know if I've worked on a particular file >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>any more :-) >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>or create >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>new ones >>>>>>>>>>>;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when >>>>>>>>>>trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a >>>>>>>>>>conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>any... There >> >> >>>>>>>>>>seems to be a trend to going away from using them in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>files, by >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>some people, for this reason. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Colin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>>> >>>>> >>>the changes >>> >>> >>>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>>> >>>>> >>>few weeks? >>> >>> >>>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>>> >>>>> >>Open Source >> >> >>>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. >>>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ >>>>>Springframework-developer mailing list >>>>>Spr...@li... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope >> >> >>>>>r >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>> >>>> >>>the changes >>> >>> >>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>> >>>> >>>few weeks? >>> >>> >>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>> >>>> >>Open Source >> >> >>>>Technology Group. 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From: <tho...@tr...> - 2004-08-04 15:09:00
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I used JEdit which has excellent support for this kind of modifications. You can easily replace using a regex in all java files in a certain directory tree. Eclipse has similar support - but JEdit's search/replace seems easier to use. Thomas Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. > > I can do this with a regex search and replace. > > It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and > not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk to > ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with binary > files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote the other way. > > Will try to do this at an opportune time... > > Colin > > Alef Arendsen wrote: > > >I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall Thomas > or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to > org.springframework about a year ago... > > > >Alef > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: spr...@li... > >>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >> On Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM > >>To: spr...@li... > >>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >>OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - > >>in an automated fashion? > >> > >>Juergen > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >>Von: spr...@li... im > >>Auftrag von Alef Arendsen > >>Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 > >>An: spr...@li... > >>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry, forgot about this. > >> > >>I'll add my +1 to removing them. > >> > >>Just use @author and @since. > >> > >>So the vote is: > >> > >>3 for > >>5 against > >>1 neutral > >> > >>Alef > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: spr...@li... > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > >>>To: spr...@li... > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>> > >>>So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? > >>> > >>>Dmitriy. > >>> > >>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>3 in favor > >>>>4 against > >>>>2 neutral > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>I've always > >>> > >>> > >>>>>put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>also been > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the case in every open source project I have been involved in or > >>>>>used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>continue to do > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it... > >>>>> > >>>>>In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>build process > >>> > >>> > >>>>>ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>actually got > >> > >> > >>>>>deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>our Views so > >>> > >>> > >>>>>that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > >>>>> > >>>>>however, I also understand the problem with > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>branch/merge...but why > >> > >> > >>>>>doesn't the -kk solution work? > >>>>> > >>>>>+0 for $Id$ > >>>>> > >>>>>later. > >>>>>Bill > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Let's give others a chance ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Rob Harrop wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Shootout at noon? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: spr...@li... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>>>>>Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >>>>>>>To: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>@version tags > >> > >> > >>>>>>>3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >>>>>>>3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >>>>>>>1 neutral (Darren) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to > >>>>>>>>blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to > >>>>>>>>branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>and Eclipse, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>wherever I am. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>of them)... > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Regards, > >>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I > >>>>>>>>>>personally don't think that they add much value. Of > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>course, if a > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll > >>>>>>>>>>concede ;-) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the > >>>>>>>>>>creation date. That has been quite nice during our > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>agile way > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>version numbers > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>there now. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all > >>>>>>>>>>source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is > >>>>>>>>>>probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>alignment > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>easy again. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Juergen > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Von: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>spr...@li... im > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>>>>>>>An: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>@version > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>tags > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>through my > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>standardized, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I won't know if I've worked on a particular file > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>any more :-) > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>or create > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>new ones > >>>>>>>>>>>;-) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when > >>>>>>>>>>trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a > >>>>>>>>>>conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>any... There > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>seems to be a trend to going away from using them in > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>files, by > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>some people, for this reason. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Colin > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>>>Spr...@li... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > >> > >> > >>>>>r > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>> > >>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>> > >>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>> > >>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>>Spr...@li... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>> > >>> > >>the changes > >> > >> > >>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>> > >>> > >>few weeks? > >> > >> > >>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source > >>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>Spr...@li... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-08-04 14:10:05
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Sigh... Bye bye $Ids :-( Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. > > I can do this with a regex search and replace. > > It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and > not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk > to ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with > binary files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote > the other way. > > Will try to do this at an opportune time... > > Colin > > Alef Arendsen wrote: > >> I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall >> Thomas or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 >> to org.springframework about a year ago... >> >> Alef >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: spr...@li... >>> [mailto:spr...@li...] >>> On Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM >>> To: spr...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - in an >>> automated fashion? >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Von: spr...@li... im >>> Auftrag von Alef Arendsen >>> Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 >>> An: spr...@li... >>> Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry, forgot about this. >>> >>> I'll add my +1 to removing them. >>> >>> Just use @author and @since. >>> >>> So the vote is: >>> >>> 3 for >>> 5 against >>> 1 neutral >>> >>> Alef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: spr...@li... >>>> [mailto:spr...@li...] >>>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM >>>> To: spr...@li... >>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>> >>>> So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? >>>> >>>> Dmitriy. >>>> >>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 3 in favor >>>>> 4 against >>>>> 2 neutral >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> I've always >>>> >>>> >>>>>> put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> also been >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the case in every open source project I have been involved in or >>>>>> used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> continue to do >>>> >>>> >>>>>> it... >>>>>> >>>>>> In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> build process >>>> >>>> >>>>>> ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed >>>>> >>> actually got >>> >>>>>> deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> our Views so >>>> >>>> >>>>>> that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. >>>>>> >>>>>> however, I also understand the problem with >>>>> >>> branch/merge...but why >>> >>>>>> doesn't the -kk solution work? >>>>>> >>>>>> +0 for $Id$ >>>>>> >>>>>> later. >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's give others a chance ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob Harrop wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shootout at noon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: spr...@li... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> [mailto:spr...@li...] On >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>>>>>> Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 >>>>>>>> To: spr...@li... >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>> >>> @version tags >>> >>> >>>>>>>> 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) >>>>>>>> 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) >>>>>>>> 1 neutral (Darren) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Colin Sampaleanu wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to >>>>>>>>> blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to >>>>>>>>> branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> and Eclipse, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> wherever I am. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> of them)... >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I >>>>>>>>>>> personally don't think that they add much value. Of >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> course, if a >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> concede ;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the >>>>>>>>>>> creation date. That has been quite nice during our >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> agile way >>> >>>>>>>>>>> towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> version numbers >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> there now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all >>>>>>>>>>> source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is >>>>>>>>>>> probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> alignment >>> >>>>>>>>>>> easy again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Juergen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Von: >>>>>>>>>> >>> spr...@li... im >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>>>>>>>>>> An: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> @version >>> >>>>>>>>>>> tags >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> through my >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> standardized, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't know if I've worked on a particular file >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> any more :-) >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> or create >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> new ones >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when >>>>>>>>>>> trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a >>>>>>>>>>> conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> any... There >>> >>>>>>>>>>> seems to be a trend to going away from using them in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> files, by >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> some people, for this reason. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Colin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> the changes >>>> >>>> >>>>>> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> few weeks? >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>>> >>> Open Source >>> >>>>>> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. >>>>>> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Springframework-developer mailing list >>>>>> Spr...@li... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope >>> >>> >>>>>> r >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>>> >>>> >>>> the changes >>>> >>>> >>>>> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>>> >>>> >>>> few weeks? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>> >>> Open Source >>> >>>>> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. >>>>> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ >>>>> Springframework-developer mailing list >>>>> Spr...@li... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>> >>> the changes >>> >>>> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>> >>> few weeks? >>> >>>> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source >>>> Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. >>>> www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ >>>> Springframework-developer mailing list >>>> Spr...@li... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-08-12 08:37:45
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Thomas, =20 Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags today = or tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 = final. =20 Thanks in advance! =20 Juergen =20 ________________________________ Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag = von tho...@tr... Gesendet: Mi 04.08.2004 17:08 An: spr...@li... Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags I used JEdit which has excellent support for this kind of modifications. = You can easily replace using a regex in all java files in a certain = directory tree. Eclipse has similar support - but JEdit's search/replace seems easier = to use. Thomas Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. > > I can do this with a regex search and replace. > > It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and > not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk = to > ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with = binary > files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote the = other way. > > Will try to do this at an opportune time... > > Colin > > Alef Arendsen wrote: > > >I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall = Thomas > or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to > org.springframework about a year ago... > > > >Alef > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: spr...@li... > >>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >> On Behalf Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM > >>To: spr...@li... > >>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >>OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - > >>in an automated fashion? > >> > >>Juergen > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >>Von: spr...@li... im > >>Auftrag von Alef Arendsen > >>Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 > >>An: spr...@li... > >>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry, forgot about this. > >> > >>I'll add my +1 to removing them. > >> > >>Just use @author and @since. > >> > >>So the vote is: > >> > >>3 for > >>5 against > >>1 neutral > >> > >>Alef > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: spr...@li... > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > >>>To: spr...@li... > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>> > >>>So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? > >>> > >>>Dmitriy. > >>> > >>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>3 in favor > >>>>4 against > >>>>2 neutral > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>I've always > >>> > >>> > >>>>>put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>also been > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the case in every open source project I have been involved in or > >>>>>used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>continue to do > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it... > >>>>> > >>>>>In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>build process > >>> > >>> > >>>>>ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>actually got > >> > >> > >>>>>deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>our Views so > >>> > >>> > >>>>>that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > >>>>> > >>>>>however, I also understand the problem with > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>branch/merge...but why > >> > >> > >>>>>doesn't the -kk solution work? > >>>>> > >>>>>+0 for $Id$ > >>>>> > >>>>>later. > >>>>>Bill > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Let's give others a chance ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Rob Harrop wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Shootout at noon? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: spr...@li... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>>>>>Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >>>>>>>To: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>@version tags > >> > >> > >>>>>>>3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >>>>>>>3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >>>>>>>1 neutral (Darren) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to > >>>>>>>>blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to > >>>>>>>>branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>and Eclipse, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>wherever I am. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>of them)... > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Regards, > >>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I > >>>>>>>>>>personally don't think that they add much value. Of > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>course, if a > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll > >>>>>>>>>>concede ;-) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the > >>>>>>>>>>creation date. That has been quite nice during our > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>agile way > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>version numbers > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>there now. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all > >>>>>>>>>>source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is > >>>>>>>>>>probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>alignment > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>easy again. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Juergen > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Von: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>spr...@li... im > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>>>>>>>An: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>@version > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>tags > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>through my > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>standardized, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I won't know if I've worked on a particular file > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>any more :-) > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>or create > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>new ones > >>>>>>>>>>>;-) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when > >>>>>>>>>>trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a > >>>>>>>>>>conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>any... There > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>seems to be a trend to going away from using them in > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>files, by > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>some people, for this reason. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Colin > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>>>Spr...@li... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > = >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > >> > >> > >>>>>r > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>> > >>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>> > >>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>> > >>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>Technology Group. 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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-08-16 08:56:53
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Thomas, =20 Any chance to do this today or tomorrow? =20 Juergen =20 ________________________________ Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag = von j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] Gesendet: Do 12.08.2004 10:36 An: spr...@li... Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags Thomas, Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags today = or tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 = final. Thanks in advance! Juergen ________________________________ Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag = von tho...@tr... Gesendet: Mi 04.08.2004 17:08 An: spr...@li... Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags I used JEdit which has excellent support for this kind of modifications. = You can easily replace using a regex in all java files in a certain = directory tree. Eclipse has similar support - but JEdit's search/replace seems easier = to use. Thomas Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. > > I can do this with a regex search and replace. > > It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and > not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk = to > ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with = binary > files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote the = other way. > > Will try to do this at an opportune time... > > Colin > > Alef Arendsen wrote: > > >I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall = Thomas > or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to > org.springframework about a year ago... > > > >Alef > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: spr...@li... > >>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >> On Behalf Of j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM > >>To: spr...@li... > >>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >>OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - > >>in an automated fashion? > >> > >>Juergen > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >>Von: spr...@li... im > >>Auftrag von Alef Arendsen > >>Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 > >>An: spr...@li... > >>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry, forgot about this. > >> > >>I'll add my +1 to removing them. > >> > >>Just use @author and @since. > >> > >>So the vote is: > >> > >>3 for > >>5 against > >>1 neutral > >> > >>Alef > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: spr...@li... > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] > >>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM > >>>To: spr...@li... > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>> > >>>So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? > >>> > >>>Dmitriy. > >>> > >>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>3 in favor > >>>>4 against > >>>>2 neutral > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>I've always > >>> > >>> > >>>>>put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>also been > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the case in every open source project I have been involved in or > >>>>>used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>continue to do > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it... > >>>>> > >>>>>In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>build process > >>> > >>> > >>>>>ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>actually got > >> > >> > >>>>>deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>our Views so > >>> > >>> > >>>>>that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. > >>>>> > >>>>>however, I also understand the problem with > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>branch/merge...but why > >> > >> > >>>>>doesn't the -kk solution work? > >>>>> > >>>>>+0 for $Id$ > >>>>> > >>>>>later. > >>>>>Bill > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Let's give others a chance ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Rob Harrop wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Shootout at noon? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: spr...@li... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >>>>>>>Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >>>>>>>To: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>@version tags > >> > >> > >>>>>>>3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >>>>>>>3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >>>>>>>1 neutral (Darren) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to > >>>>>>>>blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to > >>>>>>>>branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>and Eclipse, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>wherever I am. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>of them)... > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Regards, > >>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I > >>>>>>>>>>personally don't think that they add much value. Of > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>course, if a > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll > >>>>>>>>>>concede ;-) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the > >>>>>>>>>>creation date. That has been quite nice during our > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>agile way > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>version numbers > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>there now. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all > >>>>>>>>>>source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is > >>>>>>>>>>probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>alignment > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>easy again. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Juergen > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Von: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>spr...@li... im > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>>>>>>>An: spr...@li... > >>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>@version > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>tags > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>through my > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>standardized, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>I won't know if I've worked on a particular file > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>any more :-) > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>or create > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>new ones > >>>>>>>>>>>;-) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when > >>>>>>>>>>trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a > >>>>>>>>>>conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>any... There > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>seems to be a trend to going away from using them in > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>files, by > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>some people, for this reason. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Colin > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>>>Spr...@li... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > = >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-develope > >> > >> > >>>>>r > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>>> > >>>> > >>>the changes > >>> > >>> > >>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>>> > >>>> > >>>few weeks? > >>> > >>> > >>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- > >>>> > >>>> > >>Open Source > >> > >> > >>>>Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. > >>>>www.ostg.com _______________________________________________ > >>>>Springframework-developer mailing list > >>>>Spr...@li... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > = >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed > >>> > >>> > >>the changes > >> > >> > >>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past > >>> > >>> > >>few weeks? > >> > >> > >>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source > >>>Technology Group. 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From: Rod J. <ro...@in...> - 2004-08-16 12:26:24
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>Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags today or tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 final. Hey, did we agree this?? I still see a value for $Id$ tags, and am not convinced there's a benefit in removing them at this point. |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-08-16 13:31:10
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Rod Johnson wrote: >>Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags today or >> >> >tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 final. > >Hey, did we agree this?? I still see a value for $Id$ tags, and am not >convinced there's a benefit in removing them at this point. > > There was a vote, which ended up being pretty close, but remove won. I was pretty borderline myself, but finally voted for remove, since at this time SF doesn't have the CVS version which can properly ignore the keyword expansion, for merges, taking into consideration binary files. Colin |
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From: Thomas R. <tho...@tr...> - 2004-08-16 12:45:51
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I have removed all @version tags. Thomas jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >Thomas, > >Any chance to do this today or tomorrow? > >Juergen > > >________________________________ > >Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag von jürgen höller [werk3AT] >Gesendet: Do 12.08.2004 10:36 >An: spr...@li... >Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > >Thomas, > >Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags today or tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 final. > >Thanks in advance! > >Juergen > > >________________________________ > >Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag von tho...@tr... >Gesendet: Mi 04.08.2004 17:08 >An: spr...@li... >Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > >I used JEdit which has excellent support for this kind of modifications. You >can easily replace using a regex in all java files in a certain directory tree. > Eclipse has similar support - but JEdit's search/replace seems easier to use. > >Thomas > > >Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>: > > > >>I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. >> >>I can do this with a regex search and replace. >> >>It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and >>not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk to >>ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with binary >>files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote the other way. >> >>Will try to do this at an opportune time... >> >>Colin >> >>Alef Arendsen wrote: >> >> >> >>>I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall Thomas >>> >>> >>or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 to >>org.springframework about a year ago... >> >> >>>Alef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>[mailto:spr...@li...] >>>>On Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM >>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>> >>>>OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - >>>>in an automated fashion? >>>> >>>>Juergen >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> >>>>Von: spr...@li... im >>>>Auftrag von Alef Arendsen >>>>Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 >>>>An: spr...@li... >>>>Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Sorry, forgot about this. >>>> >>>>I'll add my +1 to removing them. >>>> >>>>Just use @author and @since. >>>> >>>>So the vote is: >>>> >>>>3 for >>>>5 against >>>>1 neutral >>>> >>>>Alef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>>[mailto:spr...@li...] >>>>>On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>>>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM >>>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>>> >>>>>So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? >>>>> >>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>> >>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>3 in favor >>>>>>4 against >>>>>>2 neutral >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>I've always >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>also been >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>the case in every open source project I have been involved in or >>>>>>>used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>continue to do >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>build process >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>actually got >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>our Views so >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>however, I also understand the problem with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>branch/merge...but why >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>doesn't the -kk solution work? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>+0 for $Id$ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>later. >>>>>>>Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Let's give others a chance ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Rob Harrop wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Shootout at noon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>From: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>>>>>>>Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 >>>>>>>>>To: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>@version tags >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) >>>>>>>>>3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) >>>>>>>>>1 neutral (Darren) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Colin Sampaleanu wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to >>>>>>>>>>blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to >>>>>>>>>>branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>and Eclipse, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>wherever I am. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>of them)... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I >>>>>>>>>>>>personally don't think that they add much value. Of >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>course, if a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>concede ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the >>>>>>>>>>>>creation date. That has been quite nice during our >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>agile way >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>version numbers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>there now. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all >>>>>>>>>>>>source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is >>>>>>>>>>>>probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>alignment >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>easy again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Juergen >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Von: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>spr...@li... im >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>>>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>>>>>>>>>>>An: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>@version >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>tags >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>through my >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>standardized, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I won't know if I've worked on a particular file >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>any more :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>or create >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>new ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when >>>>>>>>>>>>trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a >>>>>>>>>>>>conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>any... There >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>seems to be a trend to going away from using them in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>files, by >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>some people, for this reason. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Colin >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>the changes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>few weeks? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>Open Source >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Technology Group. 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From: <jue...@we...> - 2004-08-16 14:38:55
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I don't really mind leaving the $Id tags in for 1.1 final. We need a = strategy for the future, though, and currently it seems that the = majority is against those tags... Juergen -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf Of Colin Sampaleanu Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 3:30 PM To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags Rod Johnson wrote: >>Do you have the chance to remove all lines with $Id/$Revision tags = today or >> =20 >> >tomorrow? I'd like to get this done this week, to be prepared for 1.1 = final. > >Hey, did we agree this?? I still see a value for $Id$ tags, and am not >convinced there's a benefit in removing them at this point. > =20 > There was a vote, which ended up being pretty close, but remove won. I=20 was pretty borderline myself, but finally voted for remove, since at=20 this time SF doesn't have the CVS version which can properly ignore the=20 keyword expansion, for merges, taking into consideration binary files. Colin ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-07-29 11:48:58
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Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) Regards, Dmitriy. jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) > >Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. > >Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. > >Juergen > > >________________________________ > >Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >An: spr...@li... >Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > >Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > > > >>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >>>classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know if I've >>>worked on a particular file any more :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones >>;-) >> >>Dmitriy. >> >> > >I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist >when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away >from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. > >Colin > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idG21&alloc_id040&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
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From: Rod J. <rod...@in...> - 2004-07-29 12:09:42
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+1 for $Id. I like to be able to see who last edited the file without looking at resource history (for example, offline). It also helps to see whether a CVS commit has succeeded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitriy Kopylenko" <dko...@ru...> To: <spr...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) |
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From: Rob H. <ro...@ca...> - 2004-07-29 12:24:40
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+1 here as well - I find that the $Id$ tag is quite useful. -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of Rod Johnson Sent: 29 July 2004 13:09 To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags +1 for $Id. I like to be able to see who last edited the file without looking at resource history (for example, offline). It also helps to see whether a CVS commit has succeeded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitriy Kopylenko" <dko...@ru...> To: <spr...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-07-29 12:34:16
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So far it's 3 in favor, 2 against Rob Harrop wrote: >+1 here as well - I find that the $Id$ tag is quite useful. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of >Rod Johnson >Sent: 29 July 2004 13:09 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >+1 for $Id. > >I like to be able to see who last edited the file without looking at >resource history (for example, offline). It also helps to see whether a CVS >commit has succeeded. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dmitriy Kopylenko" <dko...@ru...> >To: <spr...@li...> >Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:49 PM >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > > >>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >> >> > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
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From: Darren D. <da...@da...> - 2004-07-29 13:16:03
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> So far it's 3 in favor, 2 against +1 for @since with version numbers (or dates if it was pre 1.0) Quite like $Id tags, but not if they're going to cause operational problems (ie with branching). Don't know if that counts as + or - 1 :) D. --=20 Darren Davison Public Key: http://www.davison.uk.net/pages/key.htm |
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From: Mark P. <mar...@co...> - 2004-07-29 15:45:00
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Hi, I don't vote often, but -1 for using $Id$ in @version. I don't think end users really care to see the CVS id in the javadocs, it just adds noise. Maybe a non javadoc style comment in the code with $Id$ is a reasonable compromise? I'd like to see @since be the release # of spring since it is more meaningful to users. - Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] > On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:35 AM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > So far it's 3 in favor, 2 against > > > Rob Harrop wrote: > > >+1 here as well - I find that the $Id$ tag is quite useful. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: spr...@li... > >[mailto:spr...@li...] On > >Behalf Of Rod Johnson > >Sent: 29 July 2004 13:09 > >To: spr...@li... > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > >+1 for $Id. > > > >I like to be able to see who last edited the file without looking at > >resource history (for example, offline). It also helps to > see whether a > >CVS commit has succeeded. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dmitriy Kopylenko" <dko...@ru...> > >To: <spr...@li...> > >Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:49 PM > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > > > > > > > >>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Thomas R. <tho...@tr...> - 2004-07-29 12:24:11
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-1 I see no value in having the @version/$Id tags in the source - CVS can give you this if and when you need it. The @since with a release version would be nice for the JavaDocs and would be consistent with Java itself. Thomas Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > > Regards, > Dmitriy. > > > jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: > >> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally >> don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic >> decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) >> >> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation >> date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We >> could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. >> >> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source >> files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, >> @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. >> >> Juergen >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag >> von Colin Sampaleanu >> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >> An: spr...@li... >> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >> >> >> >> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >>>> classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know if >>>> I've >>>> worked on a particular file any more :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones >>> ;-) >>> >>> Dmitriy. >>> >> >> >> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >> merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist >> when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away >> from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >> FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >> Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-developer mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >> FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >> Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idG21&alloc_id040&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-developer mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > |
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From: Colin S. <col...@ex...> - 2004-07-29 15:04:23
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I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise and Eclipse, I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, wherever I am. So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > > Regards, > Dmitriy. > > > jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: > >> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally >> don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic >> decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) >> >> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation >> date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We >> could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. >> >> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source >> files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, >> @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. >> >> Juergen >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Von: spr...@li... im Auftrag >> von Colin Sampaleanu >> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >> An: spr...@li... >> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >> >> >> >> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >>>> classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know if >>>> I've >>>> worked on a particular file any more :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones >>> ;-) >>> >>> Dmitriy. >>> >> >> >> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >> merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist >> when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away >> from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. >> >> Colin > |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-07-29 15:14:51
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3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) 1 neutral (Darren) Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to blame > for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to branch/merge > comfortably in the future. With Tortoise and Eclipse, I can see the > revision history _very_ easily anyways, wherever I am. > > So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... > > > Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >> >> Regards, >> Dmitriy. >> >> >> jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >> >>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally >>> don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic >>> decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) >>> >>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation >>> date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We >>> could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. >>> >>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source >>> files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, >>> @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Von: spr...@li... im >>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>> An: spr...@li... >>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> >>> >>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >>>>> classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know >>>>> if I've >>>>> worked on a particular file any more :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> Dmitriy. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >>> merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist >>> when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away >>> from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. >>> >>> Colin >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Rob H. <ro...@ca...> - 2004-07-29 15:26:14
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Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) Shootout at noon? Rob -----Original Message----- From: spr...@li... [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf = Of Dmitriy Kopylenko Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 To: spr...@li... Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) 1 neutral (Darren) Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to blame=20 > for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to branch/merge=20 > comfortably in the future. With Tortoise and Eclipse, I can see the=20 > revision history _very_ easily anyways, wherever I am. > > So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... > > > Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >> >> Regards, >> Dmitriy. >> >> >> j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: >> >>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally = >>> don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic=20 >>> decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) >>> >>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation=20 >>> date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We=20 >>> could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. >>> >>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source=20 >>> files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy,=20 >>> @since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Von: spr...@li... im=20 >>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>> An: spr...@li... >>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> >>> >>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes = or >>>>> classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know=20 >>>>> if I've >>>>> worked on a particular file any more :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> >>>> >>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new = ones >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> Dmitriy. >>>> =20 >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >>> merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to = exist >>> when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going = away >>> from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. >>> >>> Colin >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D4721&alloc_id=3D10040&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-developer mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D4721&alloc_id=3D10040&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Springframework-developer mailing list Spr...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer |
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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-07-29 15:34:48
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Let's give others a chance ;-) Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? Rob Harrop wrote: >Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > >Shootout at noon? > >Rob > >-----Original Message----- >From: spr...@li... >[mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf Of >Dmitriy Kopylenko >Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 >To: spr...@li... >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) >3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) >1 neutral (Darren) > > >Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > > > >>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to blame >>for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to branch/merge >>comfortably in the future. With Tortoise and Eclipse, I can see the >>revision history _very_ easily anyways, wherever I am. >> >>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... >> >> >>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >> >> >> >>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >>> >>>Regards, >>>Dmitriy. >>> >>> >>>jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I personally >>>>don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic >>>>decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) >>>> >>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the creation >>>>date. That has been quite nice during our agile way towards 1.0. We >>>>could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. >>>> >>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source >>>>files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy, >>>>@since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. >>>> >>>>Juergen >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> >>>>Von: spr...@li... im >>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>>>An: spr...@li... >>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through my classes or >>>>>>classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't know >>>>>>if I've >>>>>>worked on a particular file any more :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or create new ones >>>>>;-) >>>>> >>>>>Dmitriy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when trying to >>>>merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to exist >>>>when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to going away >>>>from using them in files, by some people, for this reason. >>>> >>>>Colin >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>Springframework-developer mailing list >>Spr...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer >> >> > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on >Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, >one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology >Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com >_______________________________________________ >Springframework-developer mailing list >Spr...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > |
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From: Mark P. <mar...@co...> - 2004-07-29 15:53:29
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Hi, Sending again.... --------------------------- I don=92t vote often, but -1 for using $Id$ in @version. I don't think = end users really care to see the CVS id in the javadocs, it just adds noise. Maybe a non javadoc style comment in the code with $Id$ is a reasonable compromise? I'd like to see @since be the release # of spring since it = is more meaningful to users. =20 - Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li...=20 > [mailto:spr...@li...] > On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:36 AM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >=20 >=20 > Let's give others a chance ;-) >=20 > Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? >=20 >=20 > Rob Harrop wrote: >=20 > >Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) > > > >Shootout at noon? > > > >Rob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: spr...@li... > >[mailto:spr...@li...] On=20 > >Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko > >Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 > >To: spr...@li... > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > > > >3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) > >3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) > >1 neutral (Darren) > > > > > >Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > > > > =20 > > > >>I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to blame > >>for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to=20 > branch/merge=20 > >>comfortably in the future. With Tortoise and Eclipse, I can see the=20 > >>revision history _very_ easily anyways, wherever I am. > >> > >>So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid of them)... > >> > >> > >>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>Dmitriy. > >>> > >>> > >>>j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] wrote: > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>>>I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I=20 > personally > >>>>don't think that they add much value. Of course, if a democratic=20 > >>>>decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll concede ;-) > >>>> > >>>>Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with=20 > the creation > >>>>date. That has been quite nice during our agile way=20 > towards 1.0. We=20 > >>>>could indeed reconsider to use version numbers there now. > >>>> > >>>>Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all source > >>>>files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is probably easy,=20 > >>>>@since nearly impossible, parameter alignment easy again. > >>>> > >>>>Juergen > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>________________________________ > >>>> > >>>>Von: spr...@li... im > >>>>Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu > >>>>Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 > >>>>An: spr...@li... > >>>>Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: > >>>> > >>>>=20 > >>>> > >>>> =20 > >>>> > >>>>>>I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code through=20 > my classes=20 > >>>>>>or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's standardized, I won't=20 > >>>>>>know if I've worked on a particular file any more :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> =20 > >>>>>> > >>>>>I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes or=20 > create new=20 > >>>>>ones > >>>>>;-) > >>>>> > >>>>>Dmitriy. > >>>>> =20 > >>>>> =20 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time=20 > when trying to=20 > >>>>merge files back in after a branch, causing a conflict/change to=20 > >>>>exist when there shouldn't be any... There seems to be a trend to=20 > >>>>going away from using them in files, by some people, for this=20 > >>>>reason. > >>>> > >>>>Colin > >>>> =20 > >>>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today.=20 > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D4721&alloc_id=3D10040&op=3Dclick > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > >>Spr...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework > -developer > >> =20 > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today.=20 > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D4721&alloc_id=3D10040&op=3Dclick > >_______________________________________________ > >Springframework-developer mailing list=20 > >Spr...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework- developer > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. 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