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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2004-08-04 14:10:05
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Sigh... Bye bye $Ids :-( Colin Sampaleanu wrote: > I think Thomas finally changed the package names last year. > > I can do this with a regex search and replace. > > It's too bad that SF is still running the older CVS 1.11.x series, and > not the newer 1.12.x series. The latter apparently respects using -kk > to ignore the keywords on merges, while still working properly with > binary files. That would probably be enough for me to change my vote > the other way. > > Will try to do this at an opportune time... > > Colin > > Alef Arendsen wrote: > >> I think our Linux experts will have to jump in here ;-). I can recall >> Thomas or Colin changing all the package names from com.interface21 >> to org.springframework about a year ago... >> >> Alef >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: spr...@li... >>> [mailto:spr...@li...] >>> On Behalf Of jürgen höller [werk3AT] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:31 AM >>> To: spr...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> OK, so how do we go about removing the @version tags then - in an >>> automated fashion? >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Von: spr...@li... im >>> Auftrag von Alef Arendsen >>> Gesendet: Di 03.08.2004 10:18 >>> An: spr...@li... >>> Betreff: RE: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry, forgot about this. >>> >>> I'll add my +1 to removing them. >>> >>> Just use @author and @since. >>> >>> So the vote is: >>> >>> 3 for >>> 5 against >>> 1 neutral >>> >>> Alef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: spr...@li... >>>> [mailto:spr...@li...] >>>> On Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15 PM >>>> To: spr...@li... >>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and @version tags >>>> >>>> So is this the final vote? Are we getting rid of $Id$s then? >>>> >>>> Dmitriy. >>>> >>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 3 in favor >>>>> 4 against >>>>> 2 neutral >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> William G. Thompson, Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i'm not sure i feel strongly either way...traditionally >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> I've always >>>> >>>> >>>>>> put $Id$ in every text file I management in CVS. This has >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> also been >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the case in every open source project I have been involved in or >>>>>> used. That is not neccesarily a good enough reason to >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> continue to do >>>> >>>> >>>>>> it... >>>>>> >>>>>> In web app dev $Id$ comes in really handy to verify the >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> build process >>>> >>>> >>>>>> ran correctly and the thing you thought was deployed >>>>> >>> actually got >>> >>>>>> deployed. for instance we put $Id$ in HTML comments for >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> our Views so >>>> >>>> >>>>>> that we can view source in the running app to check the versions. >>>>>> >>>>>> however, I also understand the problem with >>>>> >>> branch/merge...but why >>> >>>>>> doesn't the -kk solution work? >>>>>> >>>>>> +0 for $Id$ >>>>>> >>>>>> later. >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's give others a chance ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alef, Keith, Mark, Bill.... what's your vote? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob Harrop wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing like a good old fashioned standoff :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shootout at noon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: spr...@li... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> [mailto:spr...@li...] On >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dmitriy Kopylenko >>>>>>>> Sent: 29 July 2004 16:16 >>>>>>>> To: spr...@li... >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>> >>> @version tags >>> >>> >>>>>>>> 3 for (Rod, Dmitriy, Rob) >>>>>>>> 3 against (Juergen, Thomas, Colin) >>>>>>>> 1 neutral (Darren) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Colin Sampaleanu wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do like $Id tags to be able to look at files and see who to >>>>>>>>> blame for the last changes :-), but I would rather be able to >>>>>>>>> branch/merge comfortably in the future. With Tortoise >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> and Eclipse, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I can see the revision history _very_ easily anyways, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> wherever I am. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> So -1 for using them from now on (i.e let's get rid >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> of them)... >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, let's take a vote. I'm for $Id tags (+1) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jürgen höller [werk3AT] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd actually prefer if we drop $Id tags from all files. I >>>>>>>>>>> personally don't think that they add much value. Of >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> course, if a >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> democratic decision goes in favor of those tags, well, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> concede ;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding @since tags, we're currently using them with the >>>>>>>>>>> creation date. That has been quite nice during our >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> agile way >>> >>>>>>>>>>> towards 1.0. We could indeed reconsider to use >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> version numbers >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> there now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions on how to apply a consistent style for all >>>>>>>>>>> source files in a batch, without messing them up? $Id is >>>>>>>>>>> probably easy, @since nearly impossible, parameter >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> alignment >>> >>>>>>>>>>> easy again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Juergen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Von: >>>>>>>>>> >>> spr...@li... im >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Auftrag von Colin Sampaleanu >>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mi 28.07.2004 20:38 >>>>>>>>>>> An: spr...@li... >>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] @since and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> @version >>> >>>>>>>>>>> tags >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Kopylenko wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I like id keywords...they're mainly in the code >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> through my >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> classes or classes I've edited... (Damn, if it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> standardized, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't know if I've worked on a particular file >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> any more :-) >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I also insert $Id:$ when I work on existing classes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> or create >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> new ones >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally like $Id tags. But they do suck big time when >>>>>>>>>>> trying to merge files back in after a branch, causing a >>>>>>>>>>> conflict/change to exist when there shouldn't be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> any... There >>> >>>>>>>>>>> seems to be a trend to going away from using them in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> files, by >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> some people, for this reason. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Colin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> the changes >>>> >>>> >>>>>> on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> few weeks? >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- >>>>> >>> Open Source >>> >>>>>> Technology Group. 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