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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] kid friendy instal on eeePC

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 01:52:53AM +0200, Malc Dow wrote:
> Penguin racer?
> 
> How does one install  progs on an eeePC? The kids are baffled ..

A quick Google search game up with this page of eeePC "tips and tricks"
that might be useful:

http://www.r3uk.co.uk/index.php/home/36-useful-information/79-eeepc-tips-and-tricks

*shrug*  I don't own one (yet), so, no idea. :(

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Windows

[Schrijvers L. <Be...@sk...>]

Just did a quick check on win2k here, works ok for me.
Used the installers for win32.

On do, 2008-06-19 at 14:28 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 05:13:17PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > 
> > John Popplewell has put together builds of what will soon become
> > Tux Paint 0.9.20, for people to beta-test.
> > 
> > This includes a new, separate release for older versions of Windows (95/98/ME),
> > which has slightly reduced functionality than the release for newer
> > versions of Windows (XP/2000/Vista).  (In other words, a few of the new
> > features -- such as vector-graphics-based Stamps support -- are disabled.)
> > This is, of course, better than not supporting older versions of Windows
> > at all! :^)
> > 
> > You can download the builds from here:
> > 
> >   ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/
> > 
> 
> Has anyone had the chance to try this out?  I no longer have any kind of
> Windows sytem.  (Well, XP on a desktop, but that desktop's boxed up for
> a move!)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -bill!
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[Tuxpaint-users] kid friendy instal on eeePC

[Malc D. <ma...@go...>]

Penguin racer?

How does one install  progs on an eeePC? The kids are baffled ..

M.

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Windows

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 05:13:17PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> John Popplewell has put together builds of what will soon become
> Tux Paint 0.9.20, for people to beta-test.
> 
> This includes a new, separate release for older versions of Windows (95/98/ME),
> which has slightly reduced functionality than the release for newer
> versions of Windows (XP/2000/Vista).  (In other words, a few of the new
> features -- such as vector-graphics-based Stamps support -- are disabled.)
> This is, of course, better than not supporting older versions of Windows
> at all! :^)
> 
> You can download the builds from here:
> 
>   ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/
> 

Has anyone had the chance to try this out?  I no longer have any kind of
Windows sytem.  (Well, XP on a desktop, but that desktop's boxed up for
a move!)

Thanks,

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Easy TuxPaint for eeePC

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:26:23PM +0100, Caroline Ford wrote:
> The eee pc comes with tuxpaint as standard.
> 

That's what I was thinking. :)  Malc, did you want to upgrade them to
the latest (I think they ship with a version or two out of date)?

The main problem here is: it's more of an issue with EeePC than it is with
Tux Paint.  I believe the EeePC ships with Xandros Linux out-of-the-box,
but I know people put Debian and/or Ubuntu on them.  Package management
in Ubuntu and Debian are fairly straight forward, with GUI tools like KDE's
"Adept", so in the end it's a packaging issue.  I encourage people to package
Tux Paint for as many platforms as possible, so hopefully that's covered. :)

With that said... I saw Tux Paint on an EeePC (4G?) running Debian or Ubuntu
(not the stock Xandros).  The launcher for Tux Paint caused it to appear in
a window that was about the size of the screen, so it didn't fit well
(with the menu at the bottom and window titlebar and border).

So perhaps it might be good to have Tux Paint try to detect the current
resolution and do something more sane when it's launched at that SAME
resolution in Windowed mode.

Something like:

  --fullscreen-if-wont-fit
  (let it switch to fullscreen if the display is the same size as Tux Paint
  and we were about to go into windowed mode)

and:
  --smaller-if-wont-fit
  (drop down to a smaller resolution... ah, but what?)


-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Easy TuxPaint for eeePC

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

The eee pc comes with tuxpaint as standard.

Caroline

2008/6/19 Malc Dow <ma...@go...>:
> I want a one click wonder that will install TuxPaint on a eeePC, kid
> friendly, no geek cap needed.
>
> Any idea's?
>
> For a start is is for 18,000 eeePC's-
> The idea is that it goes on 1.25M of the beasties.
>
> And TuxPaiint is not all ... Penguin Racer...
> But TuxPaint is best. If you do it with TuxPaint, you can do it with anything.
>
> You can see, I am intrigued as to the solution.
>
> Malc
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[Tuxpaint-users] Easy TuxPaint for eeePC

[Malc D. <ma...@go...>]

I want a one click wonder that will install TuxPaint on a eeePC, kid
friendly, no geek cap needed.

Any idea's?

For a start is is for 18,000 eeePC's-
The idea is that it goes on 1.25M of the beasties.

And TuxPaiint is not all ... Penguin Racer...
But TuxPaint is best. If you do it with TuxPaint, you can do it with anything.

You can see, I am intrigued as to the solution.

Malc

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Windows

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 05:13:17PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> John Popplewell has put together builds of what will soon become
> Tux Paint 0.9.20, for people to beta-test.

Oops - I sent this too soon, as I'm still downloading the stamps files
from John.  If you get a 'permission denied' trying to download them,
then try again later, I haven't finished downloading them yet
(or at least haven't had time to make them accessible).

Sigh. :)  Too big of a hurry, sorry.

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Windows

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

John Popplewell has put together builds of what will soon become
Tux Paint 0.9.20, for people to beta-test.

This includes a new, separate release for older versions of Windows (95/98/ME),
which has slightly reduced functionality than the release for newer
versions of Windows (XP/2000/Vista).  (In other words, a few of the new
features -- such as vector-graphics-based Stamps support -- are disabled.)
This is, of course, better than not supporting older versions of Windows
at all! :^)

You can download the builds from here:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/

If you're running Windows, and have time to test this out, please do,
and let us know if you run across any problems.

The changes (so far) since 0.9.19 are listed here:

  http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/docs/CHANGES.txt?revision=1.557

(It's everything listed below "2008.June.17 (0.9.20)" and above
"2008.February.25 (0.9.19)", of course.)

The files are:

  * tuxpaint-0.9.20cvs-2008-06-17-win32-installer.exe
    Installer for newer Windows (XP, 2000, Vista)

  * tuxpaint-0.9.20cvs-2008-06-17-win32.zip
    ZIP version for newer Windows (XP, 2000, Vista)

  * tuxpaint-0.9.20cvs-2008-06-17-win9x-installer.exe
    Installer for older Windows (95, 98, ME)

  * tuxpaint-0.9.20cvs-2008-06-17-win9x.zip
    ZIP version for older Windows (95, 98, ME)

  * tuxpaint-stamps-2008.06.17-win32-installer.exe
    Stamps Collection - installer for all Windows

  * tuxpaint-stamps-2008.06.17-win32.zip
    Stamps Collection - ZIP version for all Windows


You'll want just two files.  Choose whether you want Installer or ZIP
versions of Tux Paint.  Then download the appropriate Tux Paint for your
version of Windows ('win9x' for old, 'win32' for new), and download
Tux Paint Stamps.

Once we make an official release, new Windows builds will be released,
and will be available from the website, as per usual!

Enjoy,

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[Tuxpaint-users] [fwd] Digital'08 Art Competition

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I saw this mentioned on the SchoolForge mailing list, and thought the
parents and teachers out on this tuxpaint-users list might be interested.


  Here's the site for the 10th International
  Digital Print Open Competition/Exhibition
  at the New York Hall of Science:

  http://www.asci.org/artikel981.html

  Best of luck.

  Joel


Guidelines can be found here:

  http://www.asci.org/artikel980.html

It's unclear to me what age ranges they expect submissions from, but
considering I saw this posted to SchoolForge, I'm guessing K-12 is
appropriate.  (You may want to contact ASCI first, to confirm...)

Good luck!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Sandra L G. <sg...@ro...>]

Forgot to tell you that my new e-mail address will be:
sgr...@gm... 
If you will still include me in the forum, I will greatly appreciate
it.  Thanks!  Sandy

>>> Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> 6/4/2008 10:13 AM >>>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:40:42AM -0500, Sandra L Grubb wrote:
> Bill:  I am retiring from RISD this year, however, still want to be
in
> the forum b/c I will continue to advise the district on the use of
your
> program and am also using it w/my new grandchildren who are so
> "captivated" by it as I am using it to teaching them to recognize
their
> names, letters, stamp names, etc.  Thanks so much for all you do. 
Our
> district loves the program!

Sandy, thanks so much for all your promotion and support in the past!
Congratulations on retirement! :)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:40:42AM -0500, Sandra L Grubb wrote:
> Bill:  I am retiring from RISD this year, however, still want to be in
> the forum b/c I will continue to advise the district on the use of your
> program and am also using it w/my new grandchildren who are so
> "captivated" by it as I am using it to teaching them to recognize their
> names, letters, stamp names, etc.  Thanks so much for all you do.  Our
> district loves the program!

Sandy, thanks so much for all your promotion and support in the past!
Congratulations on retirement! :)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Sandra L G. <sg...@ro...>]

Bill:  I am retiring from RISD this year, however, still want to be in
the forum b/c I will continue to advise the district on the use of your
program and am also using it w/my new grandchildren who are so
"captivated" by it as I am using it to teaching them to recognize their
names, letters, stamp names, etc.  Thanks so much for all you do.  Our
district loves the program!
Sandy

Sandy Grubb
Instructional Technology Specialist
sg...@ro...


>>> Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> 6/4/2008 9:08 AM >>>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:48:59PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
> 
>    Y.S.C.> For now, it appears as a mouse but with absolute (X,Y)
>    positioning. And it is connected using USB.

Ok, then it should probably work with Linux out of the box, I would
think.
(You can test it yourself -- if you don't have Linux, just get a
LiveCD
like Knoppix, and boot into Linux temporarily :) )


>    Y.S.C. > I saw DACs on Amazon,  but I didn't own  one. Does it
work like a
>    Wacom tablet? Does it have any pressure sensor? To save cost, I
probably
>    won't put those coloring buttons on the board to keep the tablet
simple
>    and smaller.

It does not register as a Wacom tablet -- not one that X-Window on
Linux
recognizes, at least.  The buttons appear as joystick inputs.  If I
recall,
it seemed to appear as an XBox controller...?  A friend has mine now,
and has spent some occasional time trying to get it to work under
Linux.
I should get it back from him. :)


>    Y.S.C. > I would see if I could arrange it.

Wow, cool, thank you so much! :)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:48:59PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
> 
>    Y.S.C.> For now, it appears as a mouse but with absolute (X,Y)
>    positioning. And it is connected using USB.

Ok, then it should probably work with Linux out of the box, I would think.
(You can test it yourself -- if you don't have Linux, just get a LiveCD
like Knoppix, and boot into Linux temporarily :) )


>    Y.S.C. > I saw DACs on Amazon,  but I didn't own  one. Does it work like a
>    Wacom tablet? Does it have any pressure sensor? To save cost, I probably
>    won't put those coloring buttons on the board to keep the tablet simple
>    and smaller.

It does not register as a Wacom tablet -- not one that X-Window on Linux
recognizes, at least.  The buttons appear as joystick inputs.  If I recall,
it seemed to appear as an XBox controller...?  A friend has mine now,
and has spent some occasional time trying to get it to work under Linux.
I should get it back from him. :)


>    Y.S.C. > I would see if I could arrange it.

Wow, cool, thank you so much! :)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

[Shih-Chin Y. <sya...@gm...>]

Hi, Misty:
Many thanks for your encouragement! I would see if I could arrange one
prototype for you.

Best regards,
Shih-Chin

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Misty <mis...@ho...> wrote:

> I would LOVE to have a tablet to play on tux paint with... I mean so my
> KIDS
> can play on tux paint of COURSE lol. I am 29 there is no way you can prove
> that I play on Tux paint lol. (Okay okay I LOVE LOVE LOVE tux paint lol. )
>
> But yes I would pay 40 bucks for the tablet... and I think it is an awesome
> idea!! And I too would test a prototype LOL.
>
> Misty
>
>
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> >   4. Re: Stamps not all loading SOLVED (Bill Kendrick)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:21:53 +0000
> > From: Debbie Schiel <deb...@ho...>
> > Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading
> > To: <tux...@li...>
> > Message-ID: <BLU...@ph...l>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but
> > here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the
> first
> > folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their
> > folders but they do not appear in the tux program.
> >
> > Any ideas on what could be wrong?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:31:12 +0000
> > From: Debbie Schiel <deb...@ho...>
> > Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading SOLVED
> > To: <tux...@li...>
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> >
> >
> > Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps are
> > all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long list,
> > and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps!
> >
> > From: deb...@ho...
> > To: tux...@li...
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:21:53 +0000
> > Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but
> > here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the
> first
> > folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their
> > folders but they do not appear in the tux program.
> >
> > Any ideas on what could be wrong?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:31:47 +0800
> > From: "Shih-Chin Yang" <sya...@gm...>
> > Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint
> > To: tux...@li...
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> >
> > Dear all:
> > I found Tuxpaint to be a very good software for kids, but it might be a
> > bit
> > difficult for kids to use mouse to draw on TuxPaint,
> >
> > I have been working on a technology to offer an economic tablet for kids.
> > For the prototype, you could see the video demo at
> >
> > http://www.imareader.com/coopaint.html
> >
> > The tablet indeed has several distinct features from a Wacom tablet, such
> > as
> > . Fully transparent;
> > . No sensor board ;
> > . Large area;
> > . Low cost.
> >
> > I plan to make a product using the technology, but think I had better to
> > do
> > some market research before doing. Do you think if parents would buy a
> > $39.99 tablet for kids to explore their creativity using TuxPaint?
> >
> > I know this is a E-mail list for users, not for market research. But
> since
> > most of you are experts in TuxPaint, so I hope that you don't mind I ask
> > such a question here.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Shih-Chin
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> > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:27:10 -0700
> > From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> > Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading SOLVED
> > To: Tux Paint Users <tux...@li...>
> > Message-ID: <200...@so...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:31:12AM +0000, Debbie Schiel wrote:
> >>    Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps
> >> are
> >>    all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long
> >> list,
> >>    and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps!
> >
> > :^)  Glad you found 'em!  More are coming, too!
> >
> > -bill!
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:14:13 -0700
> > From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> > Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint
> > To: Discussion list for Tux Paint developers
> > <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users
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> > (Responding to both -devel and -users.)
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:30:26PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
> >>    Hi, Bill:
> >>    Many thanks for your  comments.
> >>
> >>    As a matter of fact, I would like to make the tablet as simple as
> >>    possible, but with features like large drawing area, transparent. The
> >>    tablet would still require a tethered stylus, but not pressure
> >> sensitive.
> >
> > Ok, so it's technology closer to a Wacom tablet than a Koala Pad drawing
> > tablet or a touchscreen (e.g., a CRT at an Automated Teller Machine)
> >
> >
> >>    Even though the prototype work for windows only for now, but with
> >> proper
> >>    drivers, it could also support Linux, Mac OS etc. And it could work
> >> with
> >>    any software other than TuxPaint.
> >
> > How does Windows see the device?  I would imagine it would not need to
> act
> > much different from a plain pointer input device (like a mouse or
> > trackball).
> > Is it (going to) connect(ed) by USB?
> >
> > The Koala Pad on the Atari 8-bit acted as two Paddle controllers
> > (potentiometers), one representing X, the other Y.  The two buttons on
> > the Koala Pad acted as Paddle fire buttons (digital on/off).
> >
> > Once upon a time I had a little device a friend and I made which allowed
> > me
> > to connect Atari Paddle controllers to a PC's joystick port (the kind you
> > used to find on sound cards like the SoundBlaster).  I imagine I could
> > have
> > used the X/Y/Fire of the joystick input on the PC (say, under Linux) to
> > utilize the Koala Pad.
> >
> > Unfortunately, at the time, I had no Koala Pad.  And these days, PCs
> don't
> > have the old-style analog joystick input.  I've got a StellAdapter
> > (Atari video game/computer system controller to USB converter), but I
> > don't
> > recall if it supports Paddle inputs... it may only do joystick
> > (which were 4 digital values on the Atari).
> >
> >
> >>    What hardware features(buttons) do you think might help to put on the
> >>    tablet? Other than a plain transparent board?
> >
> > Honestly, I don't know!  I think keeping it simple would be the best and
> > most flexible route.
> >
> > Have you looked at the Digital Arts and Crafts Studio's drawing tablet?
> > It includes an assortment of buttons for choosing colors, tools, etc.
> > I can map most of those to controls within Tux Paint, but really, Tux
> > Paint
> > can do so much more than the DACS software can (in some ways, at least),
> > so those buttons are more of a burden. :)
> >
> > What do others out here think of Shin-Chin's device?
> >
> > PS - I'd happily accept a prototype to play with. :^D
> >
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Shih-Chin Y. <sya...@gm...>]

Hi, Bill:
Thanks for your comments!
Please see my comments below ...

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:

> (Responding to both -devel and -users.)
>
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:30:26PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
> >    Hi, Bill:
> >    Many thanks for your  comments.
> >
> >    As a matter of fact, I would like to make the tablet as simple as
> >    possible, but with features like large drawing area, transparent. The
> >    tablet would still require a tethered stylus, but not pressure
> sensitive.
>
> Ok, so it's technology closer to a Wacom tablet than a Koala Pad drawing
> tablet or a touchscreen (e.g., a CRT at an Automated Teller Machine)



>
> Y.S.C>  Yes, it is closer to a Wacom tablet.
>
> >    Even though the prototype work for windows only for now, but with
> proper
> >    drivers, it could also support Linux, Mac OS etc. And it could work
> with
> >    any software other than TuxPaint.
>
> How does Windows see the device?  I would imagine it would not need to act
> much different from a plain pointer input device (like a mouse or
> trackball).
> Is it (going to) connect(ed) by USB?


Y.S.C.> For now, it appears as a mouse but with absolute (X,Y) positioning.
And it is connected using USB.

>
>
> The Koala Pad on the Atari 8-bit acted as two Paddle controllers
> (potentiometers), one representing X, the other Y.  The two buttons on
> the Koala Pad acted as Paddle fire buttons (digital on/off).
>
> Once upon a time I had a little device a friend and I made which allowed me
> to connect Atari Paddle controllers to a PC's joystick port (the kind you
> used to find on sound cards like the SoundBlaster).  I imagine I could have
> used the X/Y/Fire of the joystick input on the PC (say, under Linux) to
> utilize the Koala Pad.
>
> Unfortunately, at the time, I had no Koala Pad.  And these days, PCs don't
> have the old-style analog joystick input.  I've got a StellAdapter
> (Atari video game/computer system controller to USB converter), but I don't
> recall if it supports Paddle inputs... it may only do joystick
> (which were 4 digital values on the Atari).
>
>
> >    What hardware features(buttons) do you think might help to put on the
> >    tablet? Other than a plain transparent board?
>
> Honestly, I don't know!  I think keeping it simple would be the best and
> most flexible route.


> Perhaps I should  keep it very simple,  a plain board but  a ON/OFF button
to  solve the conflict  between  mouse and the tablet. Or maybe a  Tux Paint
quick launch  button?

>
>
> Have you looked at the Digital Arts and Crafts Studio's drawing tablet?
> It includes an assortment of buttons for choosing colors, tools, etc.
> I can map most of those to controls within Tux Paint, but really, Tux Paint
> can do so much more than the DACS software can (in some ways, at least),
> so those buttons are more of a burden. :)


Y.S.C. > I saw DACs on Amazon,  but I didn't own  one. Does it work like a
Wacom tablet? Does it have any pressure sensor? To save cost, I probably
won't put those coloring buttons on the board to keep the tablet simple and
smaller.

>
>
> What do others out here think of Shin-Chin's device?
>
> PS - I'd happily accept a prototype to play with. :^D
>

Y.S.C. > I would see if I could arrange it.

>
> -bill!
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

[Misty <mis...@ho...>]

I would LOVE to have a tablet to play on tux paint with... I mean so my KIDS 
can play on tux paint of COURSE lol. I am 29 there is no way you can prove 
that I play on Tux paint lol. (Okay okay I LOVE LOVE LOVE tux paint lol. )

But yes I would pay 40 bucks for the tablet... and I think it is an awesome 
idea!! And I too would test a prototype LOL.

Misty


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> Hi There,
>
> I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but 
> here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the first 
> folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their 
> folders but they do not appear in the tux program.
>
> Any ideas on what could be wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Debbie
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>
> Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps are 
> all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long list, 
> and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps!
>
> From: deb...@ho...
> To: tux...@li...
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:21:53 +0000
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi There,
>
> I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but 
> here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the first 
> folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their 
> folders but they do not appear in the tux program.
>
> Any ideas on what could be wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Debbie
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> From: "Shih-Chin Yang" <sya...@gm...>
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint
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> Dear all:
> I found Tuxpaint to be a very good software for kids, but it might be a 
> bit
> difficult for kids to use mouse to draw on TuxPaint,
>
> I have been working on a technology to offer an economic tablet for kids.
> For the prototype, you could see the video demo at
>
> http://www.imareader.com/coopaint.html
>
> The tablet indeed has several distinct features from a Wacom tablet, such 
> as
> . Fully transparent;
> . No sensor board ;
> . Large area;
> . Low cost.
>
> I plan to make a product using the technology, but think I had better to 
> do
> some market research before doing. Do you think if parents would buy a
> $39.99 tablet for kids to explore their creativity using TuxPaint?
>
> I know this is a E-mail list for users, not for market research. But since
> most of you are experts in TuxPaint, so I hope that you don't mind I ask
> such a question here.
>
> Best regards,
> Shih-Chin
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:27:10 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading SOLVED
> To: Tux Paint Users <tux...@li...>
> Message-ID: <200...@so...>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:31:12AM +0000, Debbie Schiel wrote:
>>    Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps 
>> are
>>    all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long 
>> list,
>>    and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps!
>
> :^)  Glad you found 'em!  More are coming, too!
>
> -bill!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:14:13 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint
> To: Discussion list for Tux Paint developers
> <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users
> <tux...@li...>
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>
> (Responding to both -devel and -users.)
>
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:30:26PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
>>    Hi, Bill:
>>    Many thanks for your  comments.
>>
>>    As a matter of fact, I would like to make the tablet as simple as
>>    possible, but with features like large drawing area, transparent. The
>>    tablet would still require a tethered stylus, but not pressure 
>> sensitive.
>
> Ok, so it's technology closer to a Wacom tablet than a Koala Pad drawing
> tablet or a touchscreen (e.g., a CRT at an Automated Teller Machine)
>
>
>>    Even though the prototype work for windows only for now, but with 
>> proper
>>    drivers, it could also support Linux, Mac OS etc. And it could work 
>> with
>>    any software other than TuxPaint.
>
> How does Windows see the device?  I would imagine it would not need to act
> much different from a plain pointer input device (like a mouse or 
> trackball).
> Is it (going to) connect(ed) by USB?
>
> The Koala Pad on the Atari 8-bit acted as two Paddle controllers
> (potentiometers), one representing X, the other Y.  The two buttons on
> the Koala Pad acted as Paddle fire buttons (digital on/off).
>
> Once upon a time I had a little device a friend and I made which allowed 
> me
> to connect Atari Paddle controllers to a PC's joystick port (the kind you
> used to find on sound cards like the SoundBlaster).  I imagine I could 
> have
> used the X/Y/Fire of the joystick input on the PC (say, under Linux) to
> utilize the Koala Pad.
>
> Unfortunately, at the time, I had no Koala Pad.  And these days, PCs don't
> have the old-style analog joystick input.  I've got a StellAdapter
> (Atari video game/computer system controller to USB converter), but I 
> don't
> recall if it supports Paddle inputs... it may only do joystick
> (which were 4 digital values on the Atari).
>
>
>>    What hardware features(buttons) do you think might help to put on the
>>    tablet? Other than a plain transparent board?
>
> Honestly, I don't know!  I think keeping it simple would be the best and
> most flexible route.
>
> Have you looked at the Digital Arts and Crafts Studio's drawing tablet?
> It includes an assortment of buttons for choosing colors, tools, etc.
> I can map most of those to controls within Tux Paint, but really, Tux 
> Paint
> can do so much more than the DACS software can (in some ways, at least),
> so those buttons are more of a burden. :)
>
> What do others out here think of Shin-Chin's device?
>
> PS - I'd happily accept a prototype to play with. :^D
>
> -bill!
>
>
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

(Responding to both -devel and -users.)

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:30:26PM +0800, Shih-Chin Yang wrote:
>    Hi, Bill:
>    Many thanks for your  comments.
> 
>    As a matter of fact, I would like to make the tablet as simple as
>    possible, but with features like large drawing area, transparent. The
>    tablet would still require a tethered stylus, but not pressure sensitive.

Ok, so it's technology closer to a Wacom tablet than a Koala Pad drawing
tablet or a touchscreen (e.g., a CRT at an Automated Teller Machine)


>    Even though the prototype work for windows only for now, but with proper
>    drivers, it could also support Linux, Mac OS etc. And it could work with
>    any software other than TuxPaint.

How does Windows see the device?  I would imagine it would not need to act
much different from a plain pointer input device (like a mouse or trackball).
Is it (going to) connect(ed) by USB?

The Koala Pad on the Atari 8-bit acted as two Paddle controllers
(potentiometers), one representing X, the other Y.  The two buttons on
the Koala Pad acted as Paddle fire buttons (digital on/off).

Once upon a time I had a little device a friend and I made which allowed me
to connect Atari Paddle controllers to a PC's joystick port (the kind you
used to find on sound cards like the SoundBlaster).  I imagine I could have
used the X/Y/Fire of the joystick input on the PC (say, under Linux) to
utilize the Koala Pad.

Unfortunately, at the time, I had no Koala Pad.  And these days, PCs don't
have the old-style analog joystick input.  I've got a StellAdapter
(Atari video game/computer system controller to USB converter), but I don't
recall if it supports Paddle inputs... it may only do joystick
(which were 4 digital values on the Atari).


>    What hardware features(buttons) do you think might help to put on the
>    tablet? Other than a plain transparent board?

Honestly, I don't know!  I think keeping it simple would be the best and
most flexible route.

Have you looked at the Digital Arts and Crafts Studio's drawing tablet?
It includes an assortment of buttons for choosing colors, tools, etc.
I can map most of those to controls within Tux Paint, but really, Tux Paint
can do so much more than the DACS software can (in some ways, at least),
so those buttons are more of a burden. :)

What do others out here think of Shin-Chin's device?

PS - I'd happily accept a prototype to play with. :^D

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading SOLVED

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:31:12AM +0000, Debbie Schiel wrote:
>    Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps are
>    all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long list,
>    and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps!

:^)  Glad you found 'em!  More are coming, too!

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] An experimental tablet for TuxPaint

[Shih-Chin Y. <sya...@gm...>]

Dear all:
I found Tuxpaint to be a very good software for kids, but it might be a bit
difficult for kids to use mouse to draw on TuxPaint,

I have been working on a technology to offer an economic tablet for kids.
For the prototype, you could see the video demo at

http://www.imareader.com/coopaint.html

The tablet indeed has several distinct features from a Wacom tablet, such as
. Fully transparent;
. No sensor board ;
. Large area;
. Low cost.

I plan to make a product using the technology, but think I had better to do
some market research before doing. Do you think if parents would buy a
$39.99 tablet for kids to explore their creativity using TuxPaint?

I know this is a E-mail list for users, not for market research. But since
most of you are experts in TuxPaint, so I hope that you don't mind I ask
such a question here.

Best regards,
Shih-Chin

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading SOLVED

[Debbie S. <deb...@ho...>]

Sorry - searched the tuxpaint archive and found out that the stamps are all there, but that they are now categorised instead of in one long list, and I just need to click on the arrows to get to the other stamps! 

From: deb...@ho...
To: tux...@li...
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:21:53 +0000
Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading








Hi There, 

I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the first folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their folders but they do not appear in the tux program. 

Any ideas on what could be wrong?

Thanks.

Debbie

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[Tuxpaint-users] Stamps not all loading

[Debbie S. <deb...@ho...>]

Hi There, 

I've used tux paint on my own PC before with the whole set of stamps, but here on the school PCs (windows XP) Tux starts up but only loads the first folder of stamps ('animals' in the data folder). The rest are in their folders but they do not appear in the tux program. 

Any ideas on what could be wrong?

Thanks.

Debbie

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[Tuxpaint-users] Stamps

[<sim...@ti...>]

Hi!
I'm currently working on the Italian version of TuxPaint, right now I'm 
updating the Stamps translation.

While updating Tux Paint, I installed the latest available version of 
the stamps, and in my opinion it's a little messy, many "kids favourite" 
stamps of the previous versions look missing (the rubber duck, the 
toilet...), and there are too many tombstones!!!
Is it possible to "merge" the new version of the stamps with the older one?
Or uninstall the current version of the stamps and use the older one 
with v. 0.9.19 of TuxPaint?

have a nice day
Simona

[Tuxpaint-users] Opportunity for Tux Paint at "Free Knowledge, Free Technology", July 15-17 in Barecelona, Spain

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I recently discovered the "Free Knowledge, Free Technology" (FKFT) conference,
a new, international conference whose tagline is: "Education for a free
information society".

It takes place between July 15th and 17th, 2008, in Barecelona, Spain.
Here's their announcement:

  http://fkft.eu/en/announcement


I contacted them to ask whether it was too late to have Tux Paint, or
Tux4Kids in general, participate, and they said no, and encouraged us to
do so.  They recently extended the deadline for their Call for Papers,
but even so, the deadline is in TWO DAYS: April 30th.  See this page:

  http://fkft.eu/en/CFP

and:

  http://fkft.eu/en/submissions


Would anyone here be willing to participate in this event, to talk about
Tux Paint, and/or TuxMath and/or Tux Typing?

(Two years ago, I lucked out, and found someone in France who was able
to go to the Libre Graphics Meeting and represent Tux Paint for me. :) )

Thanks in advance,

-- 
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] How to install tuxpaint to SUSE linux enterprise 10.0

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 02:28:52PM -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
> Note to tuxpaint guys: I get the following warning installing...
> 
> warning: group toyama does not exist - using root

Thanks, I've alerted Shin-Ichi Toyama, who does the RPM packages for me. ;)

-bill!