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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint-users Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1

[Misty <mis...@ho...>]

Would the Copyright cost a lot? Maybe we can all chip in a bit & help with 
the cost just to protect yourself... I know I would be willing to help!!

Misty

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>   3. Re: A series started by Cordt Callum Brass (8yrs) (Bill Kendrick)
>   4. unsubscribed (Sherrie Lopez)
>   5. "Tux Paint Plus" (Bill Kendrick)
>   6. Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] "Tux Paint Plus" (Schrijvers Luc)
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> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:37:04 -0800
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] [Fwd] On Classroom 2.0: Help Build the New
> K-12 Open Source Community
> To: Tux Paint <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users
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> The following is not anything to do with Tux Paint specifically, but is
> a fwd of a message from Steve Hargadon, a nice fellow in my area who
> promotes Open Source in K-12 (primary) education environments.  I'm taking
> the liberty of passing his note along to the Tux Paint developer and
> user community mailing lists.
>
> ----- Forwarded message from "Classroom 2.0" <ma...@cl...> -----
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:27:22 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "Classroom 2.0" <ma...@cl...>
> Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Help Build the New K-12 Open Source Community
> To: "bi...@ne..." <bi...@ne...>
> Reply-To: do-...@cl...
>
> A message to all members of Classroom 2.0
>
> One of the professional hats I wear is as the director of CoSN.org's
> K-12 Open Technologies Initiative. I also run the Open Source
> Pavilions and speaker series at the CUE.org and NECC ed tech
> conferences.
>
> Because I'm a passionate advocate for Free and Open Source Software in
> K-12, I've been feeling for a while that the time is right for a
> stand-alone social network around its use.  There is a good K-12 Open
> Source group within the Classroom 2.0 community, but groups don't have
> the same full functionality as stand-alone networks, and also don't
> have the same visibility. So I've done some reconfiguring with my
> www.K12OpenSource.com domain, creating a collaborative site which I
> hope will help to build the Free and Open Source Software ecosystem in
> K-12. The wiki that was previously there is now at
> http://wiki.k12opensource.com/, and I've set up a Ning community just
> for Open Source in K-12 at http://community.K12OpenSource.com/.
>
> I hope you'll come join the community and help to build it.  I believe
> that having an inviting and easy-to-use social network will increase
> exposure, adoption, and idea-sharing around Open Source in K-12 at a
> time when it is truly needed (both financially and pedagogically).
> We'll also need some folks to start groups around favored
> programs--please consider coming and doing that!
>
> http://community.k12opensource.com
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Hargadon
> Founder, Classroom 2.0
> st...@ha...
>
> Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / 
> Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:24:18 +0100
> From: "Malc Dow" <ma...@go...>
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] A series started by Cordt Callum Brass
> (8yrs)
> To: tux...@li...
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> http://thebluecrane.com/cc/
>
> -- 
> Also the logos for PinguinCafe...
>
>          http://pinguincafe.de
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:09:38 -0800
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] A series started by Cordt Callum Brass
> (8yrs)
> To: Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint
> <tux...@li...>
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> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:24:18AM +0100, Malc Dow wrote:
>> http://thebluecrane.com/cc/
>>
>
> Heh. Nice. :)  I also enjoyed the Star Wars stick animation.
> (I'll have to show it to my 2yo son who has become fond on Vader...
> he calls him "cookie" (as in: "cooh... chsheeee..."))
>
> -bill!
>
>
>
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>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:54:20 -0800 (PST)
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> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:15:02 -0800
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"
> To: Tux Paint <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users
> <tux...@li...>
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>
> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-virus
> scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't
> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under Linux.)
>
> It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very 
> likely
> that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't tried
> yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web browser.
>
> Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I came 
> across
> an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called "InfraRecorder 
> Plus"
> that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."
>
> InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux Paint,
> is released under the GNU GPL.
>
> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it,
> and re-releasing it.
>
>
> Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
> It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
> seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
> govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
> other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")
>
> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
>
> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these 
> kinds
> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / 
> Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:02:12 +0100
> From: Schrijvers Luc <Be...@sk...>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] "Tux Paint Plus"
> To: Discussion list for Tux Paint developers
> <tux...@li...>
> Cc: Tux Paint Users <tux...@li...>
> Message-ID: <1229241732.6825.4.camel@begasus-laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On za, 2008-12-13 at 18:15 -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> <snip>
>> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
>> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around 
>> it,
>> and re-releasing it.
>>
>
> I've seen it with quit a lot of the ports I made and released on BeBits
> (I've informed the developers of the port where possible and some are
> even hosted on their site). Even when contacting the guy who did it he
> said I hadn't anything to say about it as all the stuff is released as
> GPL. Although he has a point I found it te be bad manners to not inform
> before you do things like that.
> So for what it's worth ... I'm all against it. ;)
>
>> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
>> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
>> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
>> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
>> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
>>
>> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
>> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these 
>> kinds
>> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
>>
>
> +1
>
> Luc aka Begasus
> http://www.zeta-games.com
> http://begasus.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:12:58 GMT
> From: <mal...@po...>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"
> To: Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint
> <tux...@li...>
> Message-ID: <f6a...@po...>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Agree with you on this Bill - it could be a a wise step to trademark asap.
> Regards
> Maldwyn
>
> Maldwyn E Pryse
> Swyddog Gwella Ysgolion / School Improvement Officer
> Tel: 01597 826194                         Mobile: 07887 633024
> http://itteam.powys.gov.uk                   Fax: 01597 826263
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:16
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"
> To: Tux Paint <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users 
> <tux...@li...>
>
>>
>> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-
>> virusscanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and
>> it didn't
>> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under
>> Linux.)
>> It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's
>> very likely
>> that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't
>> triedyet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones
>> web browser.
>>
>> Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I
>> came across
>> an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called
>> "InfraRecorder Plus"
>> that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."
>>
>> InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux
>> Paint,is released under the GNU GPL.
>>
>> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
>> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software
>> around it,
>> and re-releasing it.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
>> It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
>> seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
>> govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
>> other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")
>>
>> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
>> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
>> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
>> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
>> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
>>
>> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
>> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid
>> these kinds
>> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -- 
>> -bill!
>> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS
>> X / Linux!
>> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Arnaud C. <arn...@la...>]

Caroline Ford a écrit :
> These toolbars are normally spyware, aren't they?

If they are, it should be possible to know it with the source code.
If the source code is not available, we can say that they don't respect 
the GPL.

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

These toolbars are normally spyware, aren't they?

What does this one do?

Caroline

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[<mal...@po...>]

Agree with you on this Bill - it could be a a wise step to trademark asap.
Regards
Maldwyn

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:16
Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"
To: Tux Paint <tux...@li...>, Tux Paint Users <tux...@li...>

> 
> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-
> virusscanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and 
> it didn't
> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under 
> Linux.)
> It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's 
> very likely
> that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't 
> triedyet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones 
> web browser.
> 
> Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I 
> came across
> an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called 
> "InfraRecorder Plus"
> that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."
> 
> InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux 
> Paint,is released under the GNU GPL.
> 
> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software 
> around it,
> and re-releasing it.
> 
> 
> Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
> It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
> seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
> govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
> other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")
> 
> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
> 
> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid 
> these kinds
> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS 
> X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
> 
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Schrijvers L. <Be...@sk...>]

On za, 2008-12-13 at 18:15 -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
<snip>
> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it,
> and re-releasing it.
> 

I've seen it with quit a lot of the ports I made and released on BeBits
(I've informed the developers of the port where possible and some are
even hosted on their site). Even when contacting the guy who did it he
said I hadn't anything to say about it as all the stuff is released as
GPL. Although he has a point I found it te be bad manners to not inform
before you do things like that.
So for what it's worth ... I'm all against it. ;)

> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
> 
> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds
> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
> 

+1

Luc aka Begasus
http://www.zeta-games.com
http://begasus.blogspot.com

[Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-virus
scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't
find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under Linux.)

It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very likely
that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't tried
yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web browser.

Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I came across
an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called "InfraRecorder Plus"
that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."

InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux Paint,
is released under the GNU GPL.

So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it,
and re-releasing it.


Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")

However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
problems that come up by using this "plus" version.

(During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds
of issues.  How do people feel about that?)

Thanks in advance,

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] A series started by Cordt Callum Brass (8yrs)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:24:18AM +0100, Malc Dow wrote:
> http://thebluecrane.com/cc/
> 

Heh. Nice. :)  I also enjoyed the Star Wars stick animation.
(I'll have to show it to my 2yo son who has become fond on Vader...
he calls him "cookie" (as in: "cooh... chsheeee..."))

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] A series started by Cordt Callum Brass (8yrs)

[Malc D. <ma...@go...>]

http://thebluecrane.com/cc/

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[Tuxpaint-users] [Fwd] On Classroom 2.0: Help Build the New K-12 Open Source Community

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

The following is not anything to do with Tux Paint specifically, but is
a fwd of a message from Steve Hargadon, a nice fellow in my area who
promotes Open Source in K-12 (primary) education environments.  I'm taking
the liberty of passing his note along to the Tux Paint developer and
user community mailing lists.

----- Forwarded message from "Classroom 2.0" <ma...@cl...> -----

Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:27:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Classroom 2.0" <ma...@cl...>
Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Help Build the New K-12 Open Source Community
To: "bi...@ne..." <bi...@ne...>
Reply-To: do-...@cl...

A message to all members of Classroom 2.0

One of the professional hats I wear is as the director of CoSN.org's
K-12 Open Technologies Initiative. I also run the Open Source
Pavilions and speaker series at the CUE.org and NECC ed tech
conferences.

Because I'm a passionate advocate for Free and Open Source Software in
K-12, I've been feeling for a while that the time is right for a
stand-alone social network around its use.  There is a good K-12 Open
Source group within the Classroom 2.0 community, but groups don't have
the same full functionality as stand-alone networks, and also don't
have the same visibility. So I've done some reconfiguring with my
www.K12OpenSource.com domain, creating a collaborative site which I
hope will help to build the Free and Open Source Software ecosystem in
K-12. The wiki that was previously there is now at
http://wiki.k12opensource.com/, and I've set up a Ning community just
for Open Source in K-12 at http://community.K12OpenSource.com/.

I hope you'll come join the community and help to build it.  I believe
that having an inviting and easy-to-use social network will increase
exposure, adoption, and idea-sharing around Open Source in K-12 at a
time when it is truly needed (both financially and pedagogically).
We'll also need some folks to start groups around favored
programs--please consider coming and doing that!

http://community.k12opensource.com

Steve

Steve Hargadon
Founder, Classroom 2.0
st...@ha...

Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint Error

[Cindy C. <ccr...@ch...>]

I have installed from these files on several machines with no problem,
however on one machine I keep getting a tuxpaint.exe - application error.

 

I working on WinXP Pro, I first installed version 9.2. I uninstalled it and
installed 9.19. I get the same error when I try to execute the program. Any
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Have a blessed day!

Cindy

[Tuxpaint-users] Fwd: Re: Downloading Tux Paint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

It looks like it was a browser-related issue...?  Cc'ing Martin, our Mac
person, to see if he's got any comment.

Thanks!  I'm glad it's working.  Enjoy!

-bill!
(also Cc back to tuxpaint-users, so I don't keep them hanging)

----- Forwarded message from Melanie Campbell <mca...@us...> -----

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:41:44 -0600
From: Melanie Campbell <mca...@us...>
Subject: Re: Downloading Tux Paint
To: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>

   Bill,
   My apologies for sending the DMG. I had taken a screenshot of the DMG and
   at the last second grabbed the wrong thing. I really did not mean to send
   it. 
   The browser I used was Firefox. I was downloading
   from http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/macosx/
    I just tried it again from Firefox and had the same thing happen, just a
   different name on the DMG. This time it is named 588zsq1m.dmg
   However, the good news is that I clicked on the link in your email and
   Safari opened, as it is my default browser. From Safari I was able to
   successfully download Tux Paint. 
   So, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to my email. I
   really look forward to using Tux Paint. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
   Melanie
   On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

     Melanie posted this from a non-subscribed address, and included a large
     attachment (a DMG disk image for Mac OS X), so I'm forwarding it to the
     list
     for her, sans the big files.

     ----- Forwarded message -----

     Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:08:58 -0600
     From: Melanie Campbell <mca...@us...>
     Subject: Downloading Tux Paint
     To: tux...@li...

     I am trying to download Tux Paint 0.9.20 (Intel/PowerPC Universal  
     Binary).  I have Mac OS X version 10.5.4. The dmg downloads and looks  
     like this on my desktop:

     [ a large DMG file that's smaller than tuxpaint-0.9.20-macosx.dmg,
      and has a funny name -bjk ]

     When I go to open it, I get the following window:

     [ a Mac OS X message with an error about the DMG file -bjk ]

     Any suggestions??? I would really like to use Tux Paint.
     Thanks so much.

     Melanie

     ----- End forwarded message -----

     Melanie, did you download the DMG from our website (www.tuxpaint.org)?
     If so, I'm not sure why it got that funny name, and why it was not the
     right size.  Can you tell me what browse you were using, and its
     version?

     If you didn't download it from us, then just go here and try again:

      http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/macosx/

     The file you get should be called "tuxpaint-0.9.20-macosx.dmg", and
     should be 14MB in size.  (14,383,453 bytes, to be exact.)

     Thanks and good luck!

     --
     -bill!
     "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X /
     Linux!
     Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] About TuxPaint language configuration

[Zuzhen H. <zuz...@no...>]

Thanks! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kendrick [mailto:nb...@so...] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint;
zuz...@vi...
Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] About TuxPaint language configuration


Cc'ing you, since it looks like you're not subscribed to tuxpaint-users
list...

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:09:42PM +0800, zuz...@vi...
wrote:
>    Hi,
> 
>    I find I can't change the default language via change
tuxpaint.conf.  I
>    have try using"~/.tuxpaintrc", it doesn't work either.Is there
anybody can
>    help me on this issue? Thanks!

You didn't say what platform you're trying to use Tux Paint on, but
since you mentioned the ".tuxpaintrc" file, it sounds like you're on
Linux or some kind of Unix.  (If not, let us know!)

In any case, the line that should go in your configuration file (be it
".tuxpaintrc" in your home directory on Linux, or "tuxpaint.cfg" in
C:\Program Files\TuxPaint on Windows, or...) should look something like:

  lang=spanish

You can run Tux Paint from the command line, with "--lang help"
arguments, to get a list of supported languages.  Or just check Tux
Paint's "Options" documentation (which should have come with Tux Paint,
but is also available online at:
http://www.tuxpaint.org/docs/html/OPTIONS.html )

That document also talks about where Tux Paint's configuration files go.


And finally, two other things: (1) Tux Paint _should_ honor your
desktop's locale preference, if supported, and (2) you can also use the
"Tux Paint Config." tool (run "tuxpaint-config" on Linux; on Windows, go
to the Tux Paint entry in your Start menu and select "Configure Tux
Paint",
etc.) to generate a configuration file for Tux Paint.  It has a
pull-down menu for language selection.

Good luck!

--
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Linux!
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] About TuxPaint language configuration

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Cc'ing you, since it looks like you're not subscribed to tuxpaint-users list...

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:09:42PM +0800, zuz...@vi... wrote:
>    Hi,
> 
>    I find I can't change the default language via change tuxpaint.conf.  I
>    have try using"~/.tuxpaintrc", it doesn't work either.Is there anybody can
>    help me on this issue? Thanks!

You didn't say what platform you're trying to use Tux Paint on, but
since you mentioned the ".tuxpaintrc" file, it sounds like you're on
Linux or some kind of Unix.  (If not, let us know!)

In any case, the line that should go in your configuration file
(be it ".tuxpaintrc" in your home directory on Linux, or
"tuxpaint.cfg" in C:\Program Files\TuxPaint on Windows, or...) should
look something like:

  lang=spanish

You can run Tux Paint from the command line, with "--lang help" arguments,
to get a list of supported languages.  Or just check Tux Paint's
"Options" documentation (which should have come with Tux Paint, but is
also available online at:  http://www.tuxpaint.org/docs/html/OPTIONS.html )

That document also talks about where Tux Paint's configuration files go.


And finally, two other things: (1) Tux Paint _should_ honor your desktop's
locale preference, if supported, and (2) you can also use the
"Tux Paint Config." tool (run "tuxpaint-config" on Linux; on Windows, go
to the Tux Paint entry in your Start menu and select "Configure Tux Paint",
etc.) to generate a configuration file for Tux Paint.  It has a pull-down
menu for language selection.

Good luck!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Fwd: Downloading Tux Paint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Melanie posted this from a non-subscribed address, and included a large
attachment (a DMG disk image for Mac OS X), so I'm forwarding it to the list
for her, sans the big files.

----- Forwarded message -----

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:08:58 -0600
From: Melanie Campbell <mca...@us...>
Subject: Downloading Tux Paint
To: tux...@li...

I am trying to download Tux Paint 0.9.20 (Intel/PowerPC Universal  
Binary).  I have Mac OS X version 10.5.4. The dmg downloads and looks  
like this on my desktop:

[ a large DMG file that's smaller than tuxpaint-0.9.20-macosx.dmg,
  and has a funny name -bjk ]

When I go to open it, I get the following window:

[ a Mac OS X message with an error about the DMG file -bjk ]

Any suggestions??? I would really like to use Tux Paint.
Thanks so much.

Melanie

----- End forwarded message -----

Melanie, did you download the DMG from our website (www.tuxpaint.org)?
If so, I'm not sure why it got that funny name, and why it was not the
right size.  Can you tell me what browse you were using, and its
version?

If you didn't download it from us, then just go here and try again:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/macosx/

The file you get should be called "tuxpaint-0.9.20-macosx.dmg", and
should be 14MB in size.  (14,383,453 bytes, to be exact.)

Thanks and good luck!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Ask for help

[Zuzhen H. <zuz...@no...>]

Hi all,
I got a problem on TuxPaint language configuration:
TuxPaint can't not switch to my language(chinese-simplified) on OLPC,
though I have tried many methods.Is there any body can give me some
advices, or send me some reference links?

Best Regards,

Zuzhen

[Tuxpaint-users] About TuxPaint language configuration

[<zuz...@vi...>]

Hi,
I find I can't change the default language via change tuxpaint.conf.  I have try using"~/.tuxpaintrc", it doesn't work either.Is there anybody can help me on this issue? Thanks!
Regards,
Zuzhen

[Tuxpaint-users] Pinguin Cafe

[Malc D. <ma...@go...>]

Yes, that's how it is spelt in German!

But we are at IFA, promoting Open Source thinking in education and of
course TuxPaint.

http://pinguincafe.de

Malc

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] win xp beta version - w/installer

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

Hi Simona,

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:26:10AM +0200, Simona Riva wrote:
> John Popplewell ha scritto:
> > can you run 'Configure Tux Paint', select the 'Languages' tab, and turn
> > off 'Load System Fonts' (top-right), and make sure it is off for both
> > 'Current User' and 'All Users' (bottom-left)?
> 
> DONE - but the Load System Fonts option is already unchecked by default, 
> both for current and all users
> > Let us know if it is already off.
> >   
> (up)

OK, thanks for that. I just tried a clean install on my laptop and it
seems to default to being off.

> > Which language are you using?
> 
> Italian!

Hehehe. I had to ask, just to be sure. Seems to work OK here, but I
select Italian from the drop-list.

> My attempt to pass beta-testing to my son has failed! He spent the whole 
> day with his best friend!

:-)

> So I've just tried a new TuxPaint session... incredibly well working!
> This time I chose the windowed version, I think that the slowness at 
> startup is probably due to the amount of stamps... or to the fact that I 
> "use" (mainly "watch it used")  TuxPaint on my desktop which is 
> definitely faster than the laptop. Don't know why yesterday it didn't 
> work well... maybe hot weather?!?

Hardware problems are always a possibility - over-heating in hot weather
with clogged cooling vents and a tired fan, but difficult to say
without inspecting the hardware.

I had a laptop (not mine) where the hard-drive was slowly failing.  The
machine started taking longer and longer to boot, a couple of
blue-screens of death (page-faults) and finally it wouldn't boot at all.
Until it failed to boot, I looked in all the wrong places for problems.

cheers,
John.

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] win xp beta version - w/installer

[Simona R. <sim...@ti...>]

John Popplewell ha scritto:
> Hi Simona,
>
> can you run 'Configure Tux Paint', select the 'Languages' tab, and turn
> off 'Load System Fonts' (top-right), and make sure it is off for both
> 'Current User' and 'All Users' (bottom-left)?
>   

DONE - but the Load System Fonts option is already unchecked by default, 
both for current and all users
> Let us know if it is already off.
>   
(up)
> Which language are you using?
>   

Italian!

My attempt to pass beta-testing to my son has failed! He spent the whole 
day with his best friend!
So I've just tried a new TuxPaint session... incredibly well working!
This time I chose the windowed version, I think that the slowness at 
startup is probably due to the amount of stamps... or to the fact that I 
"use" (mainly "watch it used")  TuxPaint on my desktop which is 
definitely faster than the laptop. Don't know why yesterday it didn't 
work well... maybe hot weather?!?
> regards,
> John.
>   
Ciao
Simona

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] win xp beta version - w/installer

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

Hi Simona,

can you run 'Configure Tux Paint', select the 'Languages' tab, and turn
off 'Load System Fonts' (top-right), and make sure it is off for both
'Current User' and 'All Users' (bottom-left)?

Let us know if it is already off.

Which language are you using?

regards,
John.

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 06:31:11PM +0200, Simona Riva wrote:
> I installed the new beta on my winXp laptop.
> After install, (installer version) the first run of the program hung at
> the startup screenshot.
> I closed the application, then restarted computer, checked setup
> settings and restarted TuxPaint.
> This second time the program looked loading slower than usual, I tried
> some stamps (...to check my translation  :) ) then, while I was typing
> some text, the program hung again.
> Mmmhhh...
> Right now I have many things to do, so I passed beta-testing to my 8 yo boy.
> I'll let you know what happened next.
> Bye
> Simona
> 
> 
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[Tuxpaint-users] win xp beta version - w/installer

[Simona R. <sim...@ti...>]

I installed the new beta on my winXp laptop.
After install, (installer version) the first run of the program hung at
the startup screenshot.
I closed the application, then restarted computer, checked setup
settings and restarted TuxPaint.
This second time the program looked loading slower than usual, I tried
some stamps (...to check my translation  :) ) then, while I was typing
some text, the program hung again.
Mmmhhh...
Right now I have many things to do, so I passed beta-testing to my 8 yo boy.
I'll let you know what happened next.
Bye
Simona

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Mac OS X (intel & ppc)

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

just downloaded
 
it runs which is good ;-) gotta play more but FIRST...
 
who did the new Isometric stamps?
very cool!
I was planning on making a set myself this summer this is a huge help.
 
still need iso vehicles and terrain tiles... oh and an iso font ;-)
 
sumpin for me to work on...
 
pass on my HEARTY thanks to the stamp maker!
 
henry


      

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint 0.9.20 beta for Mac OS X (intel & ppc)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

A beta version of what will become Tux Paint 0.9.20 is now also available
for Mac OS X.  If you have an Mac [1] and can test it out, that would be
greatly appreciated!

You can find the DMG file here:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/macosx/


If you're running Windows [2] and haven't tested out the beta that
was posted earlier, please do so!  Now is the time for us to find bugs! :^)

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/


Thanks!!!

[1] It should work on both older (PowerPC) and newer (Intel) Macs, running
    OS X 10.3.9 or later.
[2] Two versions are available, one for older Windows (95/98/ME) and
    one for newer Windows (XP/2000/Vista)

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Kid friendly install

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:09:19AM +0200, Malc Dow wrote:
> Don't think I didn't try it.
> 
> But it gives me a pain in the membrane, this:

Well, this is why I use Kubuntu. ;)

  Click "K" menu button
  Select "Add/Remove Programs"
  Type in password, hit [Enter]
  Browse around for software
  -OR- type things into the "Search" field
  Click the checkbox for stuff you want to install
  Click "Apply Changes"

If you need to add different repositories, there's a way to do it
in this GUI, too.

I'm guessing the ASUS people and/or Xandros didn't do this for, uh...s
simplicity reasons?  (Or, I just don't know a friendly way of doing it
than Ctrl+Alt+T to mess around in a terminal.  *shrug*)

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] Kid friendly install

[Malc D. <ma...@go...>]

> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>

>
> A quick Google search game up with this page of eeePC "tips and tricks"
> that might be useful:
>
>

Don't think I didn't try it.

But it gives me a pain in the membrane, this:

Press CTRL-ALT-T to open a terminal window

Type the following (press Enter at the end of each line):

sudo su
nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Add the following lines:

deb http://xnv4.xandros.com/xs2.0/upkg-srv2 etch main contrib non-free
deb http://dccamirror.xandros.com/dccri/ dccri-3.0 main
deb http://www.geekconnection.org xandros4 main

Press CTRL-O to save changes (Enter to confirm) and CTRL-X to exit the
Nano text editor. Note that other repositories are available and the
more you open the more software you're likely to find.

Now type:

apt-get update

Congratulations!

Well it doesn't work :-)

And the kids are just plain baffled.

Spot the gap between nano /

It's stuff like this that put people right off Linux etc.
And given the current climate I am not at all surprised.

I agree with the Kids:
Windows download, install and up and running  TuxPaint = 15 minutes
.... you are painting.
Linux = 3 hours and you get nowhere.

So what's wrong?

Malc