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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2024-01-12 05:09:18
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 09:05:05PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: <snip> > Today, I did further work, this time to reduce the bitrate of sounds, > so they are never higher than 32,000bps. That saved another 41MB. <snip> > Since the bitrate change is technically destructive (but not > noticable to my ears), I decided NOT to commit all of the changes > at once, but instead am doing so on a per-language, > per-top-level-directory basis. > > e.g., all BE "animals", then all CA "animals", ... then all BE "space", > then all CA "space", then all FR "space", ... and so on... BTW I forgot to mention, I did this with a one-off BASH command (no reason to save it as a shell script in `tools`): for i in `ls`; do echo "=============================================================" for j in `echo "be bg ca da el es fr lt ml nl nn ro ru"`; do echo "-------------------------------------------------------------" echo $i - $j git add `find $i -name "*_desc_$j.ogg"` git commit -m "Reduce bitrate of $j descriptions of $i stamps" git push done done FYI! -bill! |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2024-01-12 05:05:20
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The other day I went through and converted all descriptive sound files in Tux Paint Stamps -- the sounds of people speaking the names of stamps -- from stereo to mono. That saved almost 100MB of space used by those OGG files! Today, I did further work, this time to reduce the bitrate of sounds, so they are never higher than 32,000bps. That saved another 41MB. In both cases, I used BASH shell scripts (commited in the `tuxpaint-stamps` repository, under the `tools` subdirectory) here on my Linux laptop. They use FFMPEG tools (`ffmpeg` itself, and the latter uses `ffprobe` to check the bitrate, and skip those that are already at <= 32,000bps). Since the bitrate change is technically destructive (but not noticable to my ears), I decided NOT to commit all of the changes at once, but instead am doing so on a per-language, per-top-level-directory basis. e.g., all BE "animals", then all CA "animals", ... then all BE "space", then all CA "space", then all FR "space", ... and so on... This will allow us to revert one or more commits, to recover files which anyone might decide does not sound enough now, without having to revert ALL of the changes at once! 8^o At 14 languages x 16 top-level, it could be as many as 224 commits! It's going to have been fewer than that, though, as not every category of stamp has descriptions in every language, and even then not every sound file was encoded at higher than 32Kbps. (For example, none of the English files needed to be touched, as they were mostly 32K; a few 8K.) Anyway, if anyone notices any descriptive sounds in their favorite locale sounding bad -- well, worse than they did already (many are VERY poor quality recordings; but beggars can't be choosers!) -- then please alert me and we can look at whether it's worth reverting the pre-2024-01-11 versions of the OGG files in question, and consider other ways to reduce their size. Ref: https://sourceforge.net/p/tuxpaint/bugs/284/ -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2022-03-23 03:52:35
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On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 12:10:00PM +0600, Saffan Al Mostafa wrote: > The name for the rubber stamp is Colorful Bannerfish. > The description is A very nice tropical fish for an aquarium. > And the fish can not change colour! Thank you for your contribution, but unfortunately it appears this art is "for personal use only" (per what I see written at https://www.pngfind.com/mpng/bihTw_butterflyfish-clipart-dory-fish-tropical-fish-clip-art/) and therefore we cannot redistribute it as part of Tux Paint. Thanks anyway, -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Saffan Al M. <saf...@gm...> - 2021-12-23 06:10:20
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The name for the rubber stamp is Colorful Bannerfish. The description is A very nice tropical fish for an aquarium. And the fish can not change colour! |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2021-08-16 00:57:31
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Pere has put together a set of APK packages for Android which can be used to install the Tux Paint Stamps collection. Along with the main collection of art, sound effects, and descriptive text strings (in a "main" package), there are also separate packages that you can optionally download to install the localized descriptive spoken sounds. You can find them on the Android download page: http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/android/ Enjoy! -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2020-03-15 21:13:14
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I was casually poking around Tux Paint today, and noticed two sets of SVG stamps that were introduced a while back, and it occurred to me they introduced some redundancy. First were a set of nice-looking SVG presents (wrapped gifts). They were identical, except for color. That's not actually useful, since Tux Paint actually has a tinting option that can be set for stamps. (Put the line "tintable" in a ".dat" file.) So I removed all but one, and set that option. Saves disk & RAM! These also made the very old, poorly-drawn (by me, I assume) PNG-based gift redundant, so I removed it. After doing all that, I found an identical situation with some heart-shaped stamps. 3 new identical (save for color) SVGs, and a very old, not-so-good-looking PNG. I've just done the same. In the future, when you consider adding such stamps to Tux Paint, ask yourself whether it's sufficient to simply let the user choose the color, and add only one stamp image to the set, or if it's _actually_ necessary to have multiple versions of the same drawing. Thanks in advance! I hope everyone's staying well! Good luck! 8^o -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2017-10-13 03:43:51
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SourceForge is in the process of deprecating the CVS version control system, and I've migrated the Tux Paint project modules from CVS into a set of four Git repositories... one each for: * the main program ("tuxpaint") * the stamps collection ("tuxpaint-stamps") * the config tool ("tuxpaint-config") * maintaining the website (tuxpaint.org) ("tuxpaint-website") Everyone helping to maintain the various parts of Tux Paint, including translations, please update things accordingly. I've posted some info here: http://tuxpaint.org/download/source/git/ and you can access the repos directly at SourceForge, starting here: https://sourceforge.net/p/tuxpaint/_list/git Translators, there are some PO file updates, relating to strings I changed on the website to reflect the CVS -> Git change. http://tuxpaint.org/help/po/#tpw https://sourceforge.net/p/tuxpaint/tuxpaint-website/ci/master/tree/po/ Thanks & enjoy! -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Angela J. <aje...@ne...> - 2016-08-22 01:28:34
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Another question. My new mac has el capitan as its operating system. Tux Paint does not seem to work on that system. Is there a work around? Thanks, Angela ____________________ *Angela Jenkins* Elementary Technology Neuse Charter School *aje...@ne... <aje...@ne...>* http://cougarstechterritory.pbworks.com On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM, bb <hel...@be...> wrote: > > http://tux-paint.en.softonic.com/mac > > > > > On 8/19/2016 8:13 AM, Angela Jenkins wrote: > > Tux Paint website is not working and I need to download Tux for Mac. Does > anyone have a copy they can forward me? > > Thanks > Angela > > ____________________ > > *Angela Jenkins* > Elementary Technology > Neuse Charter School > *aje...@ne... <aje...@ne...>* > http://cougarstechterritory.pbworks.com > > ****This Message was sent through the Neuse Charter Schools E-Mail > Server**** > > All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the > North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and > disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing lis...@li...https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps > > > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps > > -- ****This Message was sent through the Neuse Charter Schools E-Mail Server**** All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement. |
From: bb <hel...@be...> - 2016-08-19 22:01:23
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Here are the stamps... http://tux-paint-stamps.en.softonic.com/ On 8/19/2016 3:41 PM, bb wrote: > > http://tux-paint.en.softonic.com/mac > > > > On 8/19/2016 8:13 AM, Angela Jenkins wrote: >> Tux Paint website is not working and I need to download Tux for Mac. >> Does anyone have a copy they can forward me? >> >> Thanks >> Angela >> >> ____________________ >> >> *Angela Jenkins* >> Elementary Technology >> Neuse Charter School >> _aj...@ne... >> <mailto:aje...@ne...>_ >> http://cougarstechterritory.pbworks.com >> >> ****This Message was sent through the Neuse Charter Schools E-Mail >> Server**** >> >> All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the >> North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and >> disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list >> Tux...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Avast logo <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
From: bb <hel...@be...> - 2016-08-19 19:41:10
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http://tux-paint.en.softonic.com/mac On 8/19/2016 8:13 AM, Angela Jenkins wrote: > Tux Paint website is not working and I need to download Tux for Mac. > Does anyone have a copy they can forward me? > > Thanks > Angela > > ____________________ > > *Angela Jenkins* > Elementary Technology > Neuse Charter School > _aj...@ne... <mailto:aje...@ne...>_ > http://cougarstechterritory.pbworks.com > > ****This Message was sent through the Neuse Charter Schools E-Mail > Server**** > > All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the > North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and > disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
From: Chion J. <f6...@or...> - 2016-08-19 13:16:41
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Le 19/08/2016 à 14:13, Angela Jenkins a écrit : > Tux Paint website is not working and I need to download Tux for Mac. > Does anyone have a copy they can forward me? > > Thanks > Angela > > ____________________ Hello, the tuxpaint.org is not responding in France also. But perhaps this link should be useful : https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/tuxpaint/0.9.21/tuxpaint-0.9.21-macosx.dmg/download Best regards Jacques Chion |
From: Angela J. <aje...@ne...> - 2016-08-19 12:44:09
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Tux Paint website is not working and I need to download Tux for Mac. Does anyone have a copy they can forward me? Thanks Angela ____________________ *Angela Jenkins* Elementary Technology Neuse Charter School *aje...@ne... <aje...@ne...>* http://cougarstechterritory.pbworks.com -- ****This Message was sent through the Neuse Charter Schools E-Mail Server**** All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement. |
From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2014-11-05 20:47:38
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Hi Laurie, El dt 04 de 11 de 2014 a les 09:48 -0500, en/na Laurie Cohen va escriure: > Are all the Stamps from the online Gallery in the most recent download? They should be there, if you find any lacking one, please report it. Pere |
From: Laurie C. <lsc...@gm...> - 2014-11-04 14:48:15
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Are all the Stamps from the online Gallery in the most recent download? Laurie Cohen TSGW Silver Spring, MD USA |
From: TOYAMA Shin-i. <sh...@wm...> - 2014-09-03 16:32:57
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Hi! Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote, > The windows installer for xx languageshould provide the same list > All stapscome inside the windows installer, even if the user only wants > animals, that could be the same for each language pack: > all sounds descs inside, then install only the selected ones. I tried to create core and language specific win32-installer. http://z1.plala.jp/tuxpaint/testing/stamps/test/ Please check them. I'm attaching shell script file which I used to create separated .iss files. -- TOYAMA Shin-ichi mailto:sh...@wm... |
From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2014-08-30 06:59:46
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On 29 d’agost de 2014 21:12:43 CEST, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote: > >So the Tux Paint Stamps collection has gotten really huge since >the last release. While we do have some new stamp images, >mostly it's due to the localized descriptive sound files. >(e.g., someone saying the phrase "A crow", in various languages). > >They're currently accounting for about 2/3rd of the size of the >Tux Paint Stamps collection. Here are some statistics I just ran, >using some Unix-y commands in my CVS checkout of the 'tuxpaint-stamps' >repository: > > * Number of stamps: >tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/$ find . -name "*.png" -or -name "*.svg" | wc -l > 1053 > > * Number of localized description sound files: > tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | wc -l > 7320 > >* Breakdown (counts) of localized description sound files, by language: >tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | rev | cut -d "_" >-f 1-2 | rev | sort | uniq -c > 702 desc_be.ogg > 925 desc_bg.ogg > 926 desc_ca.ogg > 322 desc_da.ogg > 1 desc_da.ogg.ogg << oops? :) > 681 desc_el.ogg > 898 desc_es.ogg > 936 desc_fr.ogg > 6 desc_ml.ogg > 67 desc_nl.ogg > 928 desc_ro.ogg > 928 desc_ru.ogg > > * Size of entirety of tuxpaint-stamps (cvs checkout): > tuxpaint-stamps$ du -s -h > 253M . > > * Size of just the localized description sound files > (excuse the silly way in which I calculated this ;) ) > >tuxpaint-stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" -exec cat {} \; > >ALL_DESC_OGG.dat ; ls -lh ALL_DESC_OGG.dat > -rw-rw-r-- 1 kendrick kendrick 171M Aug 29 11:05 ALL_DESC_OGG.dat Those could be reduced (lossy) by sox, stereo->mono 44100->8000 I did for catalan and the results where açceptable but I wouldn't trust for all langs without having a native speecher reviewing the result. > > >I'm thinking at, at this point, it makes sense to start breaking >the Tux Paint Stamps release up, like so: > > * core > + The stamps: > - image files (png, svg) > - textual description files (all locales) (txt) > - data files (dat) > - sound effects (ogg) > - Documentation > - The English language description sounds (_desc.ogg) > * Belarusian descriptive sounds > - _desc_be.ogg > * Bulgarian descriptive sounds > - _desc_bg.ogg > * Catalan descriptive sounds > - _desc_ca.ogg > * ...etc. Sounds reasonable > >One thing that causes a wrinkle in this idea is that, in some cases, >the stamps have been separated into their category heirarchies: > > * Separate Linux RPM packages are produced for each category > (e.g., tuxpaint-stamps-food-2014.08.23-1.noarch.rpm, > tuxpaint-stamps-hobbies-2014-08-23-1.noarch.rpm, etc.) > > * The Windows Installer for Tux Paint Stamps provides a checklist of > categories that the user (parent/teacher/etc.) wishes to install. > The windows installer for xx languageshould provide the same list All stapscome inside the windows installer, even if the user only wants animals, that could be the same for each language pack: all sounds descs inside, then install only the selected ones. >Without a package manager to handle things for you (e.g.,a >"tuxpaint-stamps" meta-package that depends on all of the individual >stamp category packages), it can be annoying to have to download so >many separate files if you want to install all the stamps. > >However, if you don't wish to install every category, it's a lot nicer >to not be required to _download_ all of them, regardless of what you >choose to install. > >It may be, though, that simply reducing the download size for all >stamps (by removing the descriptive sound effects) will alleviate >that problem -- for now, at least. :) > > >I'm interested to hear what people think about this subject. >At the very least, I'd like to redesign the "make release" process >in tuxpaint-stamps' Makefile such that it produces a core stamps >release, and separate, individual localization releases (add-ons) >that contain just the descriptive sound effect files. > >Then, when I produce a Tux Paint release, I'll upload a dozen >.tar.gz tarball files (core, plus 11 localizations, currently). > >This will undoubtedly affect the work of John and Shin-Ichi, since >they've both been doing maintenance and releases of the Windows build, >and Shin-Ichi has been doing releases of the RPMs. So I'd like to >do what I can to make their lives easier, both in terms of: > > a. what they've been doing so far (splitting up categories) > b. what I'll be forcing upon them (separating out localized sounds) > > >Since Tux Paint Stamps is currently _so_ very large, I'd love to >get this figured out soon, and produce an updated release, just >for the stamps. (It should not require any changes to Tux Paint >itself, so doesn't need to wait for another release of TP itself.) > >Thanks in advance for your feedback! HTH Pere -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. |
From: Caroline F. <car...@gm...> - 2014-08-29 20:40:39
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I think making localised packages like that makes sense. Not everyone has the bandwidth for massive packages so either making specific language installs or a default + add-in language pack makes sense. Caroline Sent from a mobile device. > On 29 Aug 2014, at 20:12, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote: > > > So the Tux Paint Stamps collection has gotten really huge since > the last release. While we do have some new stamp images, > mostly it's due to the localized descriptive sound files. > (e.g., someone saying the phrase "A crow", in various languages). > > They're currently accounting for about 2/3rd of the size of the > Tux Paint Stamps collection. Here are some statistics I just ran, > using some Unix-y commands in my CVS checkout of the 'tuxpaint-stamps' > repository: > > * Number of stamps: > tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/$ find . -name "*.png" -or -name "*.svg" | wc -l > 1053 > > * Number of localized description sound files: > tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | wc -l > 7320 > > * Breakdown (counts) of localized description sound files, by language: > tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | rev | cut -d "_" -f 1-2 | rev | sort | uniq -c > 702 desc_be.ogg > 925 desc_bg.ogg > 926 desc_ca.ogg > 322 desc_da.ogg > 1 desc_da.ogg.ogg << oops? :) > 681 desc_el.ogg > 898 desc_es.ogg > 936 desc_fr.ogg > 6 desc_ml.ogg > 67 desc_nl.ogg > 928 desc_ro.ogg > 928 desc_ru.ogg > > * Size of entirety of tuxpaint-stamps (cvs checkout): > tuxpaint-stamps$ du -s -h > 253M . > > * Size of just the localized description sound files > (excuse the silly way in which I calculated this ;) ) > > tuxpaint-stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" -exec cat {} \; > ALL_DESC_OGG.dat ; ls -lh ALL_DESC_OGG.dat > -rw-rw-r-- 1 kendrick kendrick 171M Aug 29 11:05 ALL_DESC_OGG.dat > > > I'm thinking at, at this point, it makes sense to start breaking > the Tux Paint Stamps release up, like so: > > * core > + The stamps: > - image files (png, svg) > - textual description files (all locales) (txt) > - data files (dat) > - sound effects (ogg) > - Documentation > - The English language description sounds (_desc.ogg) > * Belarusian descriptive sounds > - _desc_be.ogg > * Bulgarian descriptive sounds > - _desc_bg.ogg > * Catalan descriptive sounds > - _desc_ca.ogg > * ...etc. > > One thing that causes a wrinkle in this idea is that, in some cases, > the stamps have been separated into their category heirarchies: > > * Separate Linux RPM packages are produced for each category > (e.g., tuxpaint-stamps-food-2014.08.23-1.noarch.rpm, > tuxpaint-stamps-hobbies-2014-08-23-1.noarch.rpm, etc.) > > * The Windows Installer for Tux Paint Stamps provides a checklist of > categories that the user (parent/teacher/etc.) wishes to install. > > Without a package manager to handle things for you (e.g.,a > "tuxpaint-stamps" meta-package that depends on all of the individual > stamp category packages), it can be annoying to have to download so > many separate files if you want to install all the stamps. > > However, if you don't wish to install every category, it's a lot nicer > to not be required to _download_ all of them, regardless of what you > choose to install. > > It may be, though, that simply reducing the download size for all > stamps (by removing the descriptive sound effects) will alleviate > that problem -- for now, at least. :) > > > I'm interested to hear what people think about this subject. > At the very least, I'd like to redesign the "make release" process > in tuxpaint-stamps' Makefile such that it produces a core stamps > release, and separate, individual localization releases (add-ons) > that contain just the descriptive sound effect files. > > Then, when I produce a Tux Paint release, I'll upload a dozen > .tar.gz tarball files (core, plus 11 localizations, currently). > > This will undoubtedly affect the work of John and Shin-Ichi, since > they've both been doing maintenance and releases of the Windows build, > and Shin-Ichi has been doing releases of the RPMs. So I'd like to > do what I can to make their lives easier, both in terms of: > > a. what they've been doing so far (splitting up categories) > b. what I'll be forcing upon them (separating out localized sounds) > > > Since Tux Paint Stamps is currently _so_ very large, I'd love to > get this figured out soon, and produce an updated release, just > for the stamps. (It should not require any changes to Tux Paint > itself, so doesn't need to wait for another release of TP itself.) > > Thanks in advance for your feedback! > > -- > -bill! > (with a woefully slow DSL line at home ;) ) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Slashdot TV. > Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. > http://tv.slashdot.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2014-08-29 19:12:52
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So the Tux Paint Stamps collection has gotten really huge since the last release. While we do have some new stamp images, mostly it's due to the localized descriptive sound files. (e.g., someone saying the phrase "A crow", in various languages). They're currently accounting for about 2/3rd of the size of the Tux Paint Stamps collection. Here are some statistics I just ran, using some Unix-y commands in my CVS checkout of the 'tuxpaint-stamps' repository: * Number of stamps: tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/$ find . -name "*.png" -or -name "*.svg" | wc -l 1053 * Number of localized description sound files: tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | wc -l 7320 * Breakdown (counts) of localized description sound files, by language: tuxpaint-stamps/stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" | rev | cut -d "_" -f 1-2 | rev | sort | uniq -c 702 desc_be.ogg 925 desc_bg.ogg 926 desc_ca.ogg 322 desc_da.ogg 1 desc_da.ogg.ogg << oops? :) 681 desc_el.ogg 898 desc_es.ogg 936 desc_fr.ogg 6 desc_ml.ogg 67 desc_nl.ogg 928 desc_ro.ogg 928 desc_ru.ogg * Size of entirety of tuxpaint-stamps (cvs checkout): tuxpaint-stamps$ du -s -h 253M . * Size of just the localized description sound files (excuse the silly way in which I calculated this ;) ) tuxpaint-stamps$ find . -name "*_desc_*.ogg" -exec cat {} \; > ALL_DESC_OGG.dat ; ls -lh ALL_DESC_OGG.dat -rw-rw-r-- 1 kendrick kendrick 171M Aug 29 11:05 ALL_DESC_OGG.dat I'm thinking at, at this point, it makes sense to start breaking the Tux Paint Stamps release up, like so: * core + The stamps: - image files (png, svg) - textual description files (all locales) (txt) - data files (dat) - sound effects (ogg) - Documentation - The English language description sounds (_desc.ogg) * Belarusian descriptive sounds - _desc_be.ogg * Bulgarian descriptive sounds - _desc_bg.ogg * Catalan descriptive sounds - _desc_ca.ogg * ...etc. One thing that causes a wrinkle in this idea is that, in some cases, the stamps have been separated into their category heirarchies: * Separate Linux RPM packages are produced for each category (e.g., tuxpaint-stamps-food-2014.08.23-1.noarch.rpm, tuxpaint-stamps-hobbies-2014-08-23-1.noarch.rpm, etc.) * The Windows Installer for Tux Paint Stamps provides a checklist of categories that the user (parent/teacher/etc.) wishes to install. Without a package manager to handle things for you (e.g.,a "tuxpaint-stamps" meta-package that depends on all of the individual stamp category packages), it can be annoying to have to download so many separate files if you want to install all the stamps. However, if you don't wish to install every category, it's a lot nicer to not be required to _download_ all of them, regardless of what you choose to install. It may be, though, that simply reducing the download size for all stamps (by removing the descriptive sound effects) will alleviate that problem -- for now, at least. :) I'm interested to hear what people think about this subject. At the very least, I'd like to redesign the "make release" process in tuxpaint-stamps' Makefile such that it produces a core stamps release, and separate, individual localization releases (add-ons) that contain just the descriptive sound effect files. Then, when I produce a Tux Paint release, I'll upload a dozen .tar.gz tarball files (core, plus 11 localizations, currently). This will undoubtedly affect the work of John and Shin-Ichi, since they've both been doing maintenance and releases of the Windows build, and Shin-Ichi has been doing releases of the RPMs. So I'd like to do what I can to make their lives easier, both in terms of: a. what they've been doing so far (splitting up categories) b. what I'll be forcing upon them (separating out localized sounds) Since Tux Paint Stamps is currently _so_ very large, I'd love to get this figured out soon, and produce an updated release, just for the stamps. (It should not require any changes to Tux Paint itself, so doesn't need to wait for another release of TP itself.) Thanks in advance for your feedback! -- -bill! (with a woefully slow DSL line at home ;) ) |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2014-06-30 00:59:11
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I'm so behind on email, that I only just read this thread from March. I'm happy to see a space reduction, and will keep an eye out for any issues. It sounds like there should be no visible change, though! Thanks! :) -bill! On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 01:10:01PM +0200, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote: > Pere Pujal i Carabantes skreiv: > > >> OK. I???ve now done another run, where I don???t clean any fully transparent > >> pixels. The savings are now 1.6 MiB (1.1 MiB for stamps and 0.5 MiB for > >> Tux Paint itself). OK to commit? > > > > I can't see anything to opose, if my advice counts I would say go ahead > > and commit :) > > OK. I???ve now commited the optimised PNG files. For the record, here???s the > commands I used: > > find . -name '*.png' | while read fil > do > echo $fil > wine /path-to-truepng/TruePNG.exe /zc9 /zm1-9 /zs0-3 /fe /na /i0 \ > $fil >/dev/null 2>/dev/null > wine /path-to-truepng/PNGZopfli.exe $fil 50 >/dev/null 2>/dev/null > mv ${fil%.png}.zopfli.png $fil >/dev/null > done > > I used TruePNG v0.4.2.1 and PNGZopfli v1.2. > > -- > Karl Ove Hufthammer > E-mail: ka...@hu... > Jabber: hu...@ja... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse > Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition > Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows > Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Karl O. H. <ka...@hu...> - 2014-06-29 11:15:13
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Pere Pujal i Carabantes skreiv: >> OK. I’ve now done another run, where I don’t clean any fully transparent >> pixels. The savings are now 1.6 MiB (1.1 MiB for stamps and 0.5 MiB for >> Tux Paint itself). OK to commit? > > I can't see anything to opose, if my advice counts I would say go ahead > and commit :) OK. I’ve now commited the optimised PNG files. For the record, here’s the commands I used: find . -name '*.png' | while read fil do echo $fil wine /path-to-truepng/TruePNG.exe /zc9 /zm1-9 /zs0-3 /fe /na /i0 \ $fil >/dev/null 2>/dev/null wine /path-to-truepng/PNGZopfli.exe $fil 50 >/dev/null 2>/dev/null mv ${fil%.png}.zopfli.png $fil >/dev/null done I used TruePNG v0.4.2.1 and PNGZopfli v1.2. -- Karl Ove Hufthammer E-mail: ka...@hu... Jabber: hu...@ja... |
From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2014-03-20 07:47:01
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Pere mentioned that he couldn't commit changes into some directories within tuxpaint-stamps CVS repository, so I used the adminrepo tool at SourceForge.net to try and unlock it. Hopefully it helped! === -bash-3.2$ adminrepo --unlock cvs Unlock old locks in the cvs repository for tuxpaint? [ny] y Requesting that old locks be removed from the cvs repo for tuxpaint. The tuxpaint repo copy has been unlocked. === -- -bill! Sent from my computer |
From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2013-12-10 22:09:23
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El dt 10 de 12 de 2013 a les 10:07 +0200, en/na Alexandros Bousoulegkas va escriure: > Hello everybody, > > > I have installed the 0.9.21c - 2010-12-24 version for Windows XP, but > stamps are missing, actually there are just very few available. How > could I download the rest of them? Maybe you missed the stamps package? http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/tuxpaint-stamps/2009.06.28/tuxpaint-stamps-2009-06-28-win32-installer.exe/download > Thank you in advance, > Alex > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT > organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance > affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your > Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list Tux...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps |
From: Alexandros B. <ale...@gm...> - 2013-12-10 08:07:41
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Hello everybody, I have installed the 0.9.21c - 2010-12-24 version for Windows XP, but stamps are missing, actually there are just very few available. How could I download the rest of them? Thank you in advance, Alex |
From: bb <hel...@be...> - 2013-08-18 20:38:35
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I have so many homemade stamps that it is imposable to check. If there is a white background square it just means that the stamp was not masked properly. No big deal. bb On 8/18/2013 7:44 AM, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed that some rockets shows a white background in my box. > Only happens to me or is a wide problem? > Could somebody check them? > Thanks > Pere > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! > It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. > Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. > Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Tuxpaint-stamps mailing list > Tux...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps > |
From: Pere P. i C. <per...@gm...> - 2013-08-18 11:25:00
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Hi, I've noticed that some rockets shows a white background in my box. Only happens to me or is a wide problem? Could somebody check them? Thanks Pere |