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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Events Tux4Kids could participate in (California, June & July)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 04:54:05PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>   * O'Reilly Open Source Conference (OSCON) -- first time in California
>     July 20-24, San Jose
>     http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009

Regarding OSCON:

  Dot Org's receive 1 - sessions pass (excluding tutorials) and up to 4
  exhibit booth staff passes.
  You don't pay for the space, but if you'll need to order electricity
  and internet if you want it.


So far, noone's spoken up (neither from T4K or any T4K project, nor from
the LUG I run here in Davis, Calif.).

I'll wait a few more days, and then probably sign up T4K and go exhibit
Tux Paint and the other projects, if I can (1) get the time off,
(2) convince my wife to let me ;) and (3) find someone to help staff the
booth, so I can take a break and/or wander about.

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] Events Tux4Kids could participate in (California, June & July)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Just a brief note about some upcoming events that Tux4Kids project members
could participate in -- either officially (e.g., with a booth), or simply
as attendees -- out here in California:

  * CommunityOne -- taking place at the same time as Sun's JavaOne
    June 1-3, San Francisco
    http://developers.sun.com/events/communityone/2009/west/index.jsp

  * Community Development Summit -- a weekend event prior to OSCON (see below)
    July 18-19, San Jose
    http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/

  * O'Reilly Open Source Conference (OSCON) -- first time in California
    July 20-24, San Jose
    http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009


Personally, I've signed up for the Community Dev. Summit, and will be there
representing both Tux4Kids/Tux Paint, and the Linux Users' Group I run here
in Davis.

I'm seeing if my LUG (and/or other area LUGs) are interested in participating
in OSCON.  If not, then I'm going to see if I can get a ".org booth" for
Tux4Kids.


If you are, or will be, in the area for any of these events, let me know
and we can try to organize something.  (As big as a .org booth, or as
little as a "grab some coffee and chat.")

-- 
-bill!
Sent from my computer

PS - Can someone pass this along to tux4kids general list and any tuxtyping
list, if there is one?  I'm in a hurry, and they're not in my addr. book. :^(

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Location of pictures on my emac?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:21:08AM -0700, remoray wrote:
> I have installed tuxpaint on my emac.
> I would like to know the file folder that all the pictures are stored in?

Hi there!  Assuming you didn't change where they're stored, using
the 'Tux Paint Config.' tool, they should be inside a "tuxpaint" folder
within your "Application Support" folder:

  /Users/USERNAME/Library/Applicaton Support/TuxPaint/saved/

Where "USERNAME" is your username on the eMac.  Good luck!

-- 
-bill!
Sent from my computer

[Tuxpaint-users] Location of pictures on my emac?

[remoray <re...@op...>]

Hi,

I have installed tuxpaint on my emac.

I would like to know the file folder that all the pictures are stored in?

Regards,
remoray
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org currently unreachable

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:40:32AM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> An AT&T fiber cable was cut in the region last night
> ( currently mentioned at: http://alertsf.org/latest.php ) which may be the
> cause, though there seems to be confusion as to how that would affect UL.

Actually, it sounds like two fiber cables were cut, near each other and
within two hours of each other...  One was AT&Ts, the other Sprint's.
Police are considering the locations crime scenes, as it appears to be
sabotage.

  http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/09/2044205&art_pos=1
  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1

In the meantime, UL seems to be rerouting things, so Cernio's services
are more-or-less working.  tuxpaint.org is at least coming up for me, now. :)

Whee! :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org currently unreachable

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Thanks, Bill.
Happy holidays to you and yours!
Gloria

On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

>
> Cernio, which recently took over hosting tuxpaint.org, has gone dark
> due to an outage at their colocation facilities, run my a company
> called UnitedLayer.
>
> Twitters all lit up over the UL outage, and you can follow it here:
> http://search.twitter.com/search?q=unitedlayer
>
> An AT&T fiber cable was cut in the region last night
> ( currently mentioned at: http://alertsf.org/latest.php ) which may  
> be the
> cause, though there seems to be confusion as to how that would  
> affect UL.
>
> Anyway... tuxpaint.org is totally unreachable at the moment.
>
> Ironically, some of the Cernio folks were going to be visiting my town
> today, and I was going to have lunch with them.  Not sure if that's  
> still
> going to happen.  If it does, I hope we'll be celebrating things  
> coming
> back online.
>
> Obviously, these lists, and the downloads, which are all on
> SourceForge.net, are unaffected.
>
> -- 
> -bill!
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[Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org currently unreachable

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Cernio, which recently took over hosting tuxpaint.org, has gone dark
due to an outage at their colocation facilities, run my a company
called UnitedLayer.

Twitters all lit up over the UL outage, and you can follow it here:
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=unitedlayer

An AT&T fiber cable was cut in the region last night
( currently mentioned at: http://alertsf.org/latest.php ) which may be the
cause, though there seems to be confusion as to how that would affect UL.

Anyway... tuxpaint.org is totally unreachable at the moment.

Ironically, some of the Cernio folks were going to be visiting my town
today, and I was going to have lunch with them.  Not sure if that's still
going to happen.  If it does, I hope we'll be celebrating things coming
back online.

Obviously, these lists, and the downloads, which are all on
SourceForge.net, are unaffected.

-- 
-bill!
Sent from my computer

[Tuxpaint-users] This Week in Tech - FLOSS Weekly interview

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Sadly, David Bruce didn't end up making it, but I was interviewed
on the This Week in Tech (http://www.twit.tv/) show "FLOSS Weekly"
a few weeks ago.  It's finally been uploaded, and is the current
episode, which you can go listen to here:

http://www.twit.tv/floss59

A friend of mine was there, and took a short video with his digital
camera of my son and I behind the mic.  (Before my son got too
fidgety and they left to go to a park :)  )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=467g8qnwuwU&feature=channel_page

Enjoy!  And I encourage all of you out there who develop (and use)
Tux Paint to go help spread the word, too!  Don't think I'm the only
one who gets to :)

PS - Man, do I ever sound like Kermit the Frog. :^P

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:16:10AM +0100, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote:
> El dj 05 de 03 de 2009 a les 23:24 +0100, en/na Pere Pujal i Carabantes
> Or still we can check for key modifiers, so we don't break the api,
> don't fill the container for magic icons with lots of redundant
> same_tool_with_different_size icons and let children start to be
> familiar with key modifiers.

Ooh.  That's a clever hack, but I don't like the idea
of some features behing 'hidden' behind modifier keys.
That seems too 'professional' or 'high-end', versus
'simple' and 'for kids'. :)

(Another important consideration is accessibility for
users with motor-control problems.)

*cringing over how complicated design issues can get*

Good night :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:51:58PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about options  
> for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)

Looks like for many Magic tools, step 1 would simply be
changing hard-coded settings (e.g., "blur_RADIUS = 16" in the Blur tool)
to something smaller.

Of course, if one just goes in and changes these, and rebuilds all of
the existing Magic tools for Gloria, she'll have nothing BUT thin versions
of the tools.  Providing both thick and thin versions would be a little more
work...

(Then there's the matter of how to drop them into Tux Paint on OS X...
Martin, where does one put Magic tools once they're compiled?)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 06:21:50PM +0000, Caroline Ford wrote:
> You may actually find inkscape more useful. It's also free software.

Good point.  Inkscape is a great 'vector-graphics' tool.
That is, instead of dealing in little points of color
(or 'pixels', like the majority of graphics programs do -- including
Tux Paint), it deals mostly in shapes.  Lines, squares, circles,
and more complicated polygons and curves.

(It's often ompared it to the commercial software program "Illustrator",
by Adobe.)

Vector art often has a particular look and feel to it (kind of
cartoony, since you're usually dealing with shapes that are
all one color, or perhaps a gradient of shades of a color).
A good example I found via a random Google search;
  http://gould.cx/ted/blog.pix/inkscape-wpg-windmill.png

However, much more photorealistic things can be created, too
(just as it's possible to use a real paintbrush and canvas,
or graphics software that works on bitmaps/pixels, or 3D
graphics software, to create photorealistic imagery).
See, for example:
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Inkscape_0.46.png

(If you look closely, you can see that it's not a photo.  But it's
still very realistic!)

Using a vector-based program like Inkscape or Illustrator is usually
a different experience than using a bitmap-based program like
the commerical "Photoshop" by Adobe, or the open source "Gimp" (see below),
or our beloved "Tux Paint."  It usually involves less 'stroking like
a paintbrush' and more (painstaking, I'd say) manipulation of the shapes
that you're trying to place in the image.

Speaking of more powerful alternatives to Tux Paint, there's always
"The GIMP", a tried and true (usually ;^) ) bitmap graphics editor
that's available as open source software for Linux, Mac OS X and Windows.
It's main focus is the manipulation of images (i.e., photo touchup and such)
but it's certainly possible to make great original works of art using it.

Of course, that's true in Tux Paint, too, in my opinion!
  http://tuxpaint.org/gallery/vashti/20060120233122.png


Links:
  Inkscape:  http://www.inkscape.org/
  GIMP:  http://www.gimp.org/
  Adobe:  http://www.adobe.com/

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] XO laptop saved docs location

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:33:00AM -0800, Steve Schaefer wrote:
>    df [tells you the name of your USB Drive Directory]

Oh I think "mount" would do the same, BTW.

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] XO laptop saved docs location

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:33:00AM -0800, Steve Schaefer wrote:
>    ~/.sugar/default/org.tuxpaint.sugar-is-lame/data/.tuxpaint/saved

Sigh.  I wish we didn't have such a snarky directory name, but
oh well.  I'll go put this in the docs.  Thanks for posting your
results!

(Did you use to work at VA?  Or just use their gear?)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Thanks, Caroline. I'll check it out ...
Gloria

On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Caroline Ford wrote:

> You may actually find inkscape more useful. It's also free software.
>
> Caroline
>
> Sent from a mobile device.
>
> On 5 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Gloria Taylor Weinberg
> <glo...@be...> wrote:
>
>> Alas, I am a retired writer/artist, so I have sufficient (2), but
>> absolutely no (1) or (3), so I consider neither of those to be
>> trivial. ;)
>> Also, most of the time, I'd want a uniformly thin line, not one  
>> that's
>> thicker at the bottom.
>> If you figure it out, I'll love you forever. I'm trying to avoid
>> paying $400 for Studio Artist just to illustrate the book I wrote for
>> my grandchildren.
>> Thank you for any help you can provide.
>> Gloria
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
>>
>>> For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about  
>>> options
>>> for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)
>>>
>>> A bare-bones perspective drawing tool could adjust the width of the
>>> brush a function of height on the canvas (like the grass tool), so
>>> lines drawn at the base are thick and get thinner as you draw higher
>>> up.  Pressing 1-9 could affect the global width of the brush, but  
>>> I'm
>>> not sure if the magic API can capture keystrokes...
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:01 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Wow. How?
>>>>
>>>> Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability
>>>> to
>>>> compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
>>>> (whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
>>>> make new versions for you.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
>>>> (1) is actually pretty trivial.
>>>>
>>>> -bill!
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> ---
>>>> ---
>>>> ---
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>>>> Francisco, CA
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>>>
>>>
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>>> ---
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>>> Francisco, CA
>>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>>> Enterprise
>>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>>> participation
>>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>>> code: SFAD
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
>>> Tux...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>>
>>
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> Francisco, CA
>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>> code: SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
>> Tux...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> _______________________________________________
> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
> Tux...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] XO laptop saved docs location

[Steve S. <ste...@st...>]

Thanks, Bill!

When I looked for the hidden~/.tuxpaint/ directory with ls -al, or cd  
~/.tuxpaint/, it wasn't there, so I dusted off my rusty old VA Linux  
brain and after many failed attempts eventually tried

find -iname *tux*|less

and that did it! For anyone else who wants to find her/his kids' XO  
Tuxpaint masterpieces and copy them to a print-enabled machine via  
USB-drive, the location of the saved files is

~/.sugar/default/org.tuxpaint.sugar-is-lame/data/.tuxpaint/saved

For me, I used

df [tells you the name of your USB Drive Directory]
cd ~/.sugar/default/org.tuxpaint.sugar-is-lame/data/.tuxpaint/saved
cp *.png /media/[USBdriveMountDir]
[then go back to Sugar and shutdown to unmount the USB Drive]

Perhaps the directory name says it all! Thanks, Albert C, for wading  
through Sugar and making the XO version of Tuxpaint!

Thanks also Bill, for the link to the mailing list archive search.  
The search server seems to be intermittent, but i'll take it!

:^)

-Steve

On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
> Files and folders that begin with "." are normally hidden from view by
> file browsers and the output of the "ls" command.
>
> If you do "ls -al" in the home directory, you'll spot it, if it's  
> there.
> If you're using a graphical file browser, check to see if it has a
> "Show Hidden Files & Folders" kind of option.
>
> In any case, regardless of if you can see it, you should still be
> able to access it.  e.g., if you issue this command in a terminal:
>
>   cd ~/.tuxpaint/saved/
>
> it should work, if the directory is there.  (Then just do "ls" or  
> "ls -l"
> to see the files -- they're PNG format.)
>
>
>>    Anyone know where the saved drawing files are stored?
>>    Thanks in advance!
>>    :^)
>
> I can't _guarantee_ that that's where they go.  (I had an XO for a  
> while,
> but no time, and less and less inclination to play with it, so I gave
> it to a friend.)  But I'm guessing that's where.  If Albert C. is out
> here, he can confirm or deny, since I believe he made the XO version.
>
>>    (P.S. Is there a way to search the tuxpaint-users list archives  
>> (e.g., for
>>    the word XO)? I'm not familiar with the sourceforge archive  
>> system.)
>
> Blah, I think the only archives they provide is via the 'forum' web  
> pages.
>
> Ah, but I see a "Search" link in the "Mailing Lists" popup menu that's
> across the orange top part of the page.  That leads here:
>
>   https://sourceforge.net/search/?group_id=66938&type_of_search=mlists
>
> On that page, you can search for keywords or phrases on one or more  
> of the
> project's mailing lists.  I did a search for "XO" on the 'tuxpaint- 
> users' list,
> which returned the results found here:
>
>   https://sourceforge.net/search/index.php? 
> group_id=66938&search_subject=1&search_body=1&type_of_search=mlists&al 
> l_words=&exact_phrase=XO&some_word=&without_words=&ml_name[] 
> =tuxpaint-users&posted_date_start=&posted_date_end=&form_submit=Search
>
> (Well, it's actually giving me an unhappy face an a timeout error,  
> but perhaps
> it'll work when you try it.)
>

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

You may actually find inkscape more useful. It's also free software.

Caroline

Sent from a mobile device.

On 5 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Gloria Taylor Weinberg  
<glo...@be...> wrote:

> Alas, I am a retired writer/artist, so I have sufficient (2), but
> absolutely no (1) or (3), so I consider neither of those to be
> trivial. ;)
> Also, most of the time, I'd want a uniformly thin line, not one that's
> thicker at the bottom.
> If you figure it out, I'll love you forever. I'm trying to avoid
> paying $400 for Studio Artist just to illustrate the book I wrote for
> my grandchildren.
> Thank you for any help you can provide.
> Gloria
>
> On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
>
>> For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about options
>> for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)
>>
>> A bare-bones perspective drawing tool could adjust the width of the
>> brush a function of height on the canvas (like the grass tool), so
>> lines drawn at the base are thick and get thinner as you draw higher
>> up.  Pressing 1-9 could affect the global width of the brush, but I'm
>> not sure if the magic API can capture keystrokes...
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:01 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg
>>> wrote:
>>>> Wow. How?
>>>
>>> Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability  
>>> to
>>> compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
>>> (whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
>>> make new versions for you.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
>>> (1) is actually pretty trivial.
>>>
>>> -bill!
>>>
>>> --- 
>>> --- 
>>> --- 
>>> --- 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>>> Francisco, CA
>>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>>> Enterprise
>>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>>> participation
>>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>>> code: SFAD
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tuxpaint-devel mailing list
>>> Tux...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
>>
>>
>> --- 
>> --- 
>> --- 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> Francisco, CA
>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>> code: SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
>> Tux...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
>
>
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> _______________________________________________
> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
> Tux...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Also, can you tell me in simple terms (as opposed to the geek-speek my  
husband uses), how I would add stamps? I see you have a farm, sort of,  
but no horses, cows or tractor. (Two of my grandchildren live on a  
ranch here in rural Florida, two are from Texas, so these are  
desirable stamps to add.
Thanks,
Gloria

On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Gloria Taylor Weinberg wrote:

> Alas, I am a retired writer/artist, so I have sufficient (2), but
> absolutely no (1) or (3), so I consider neither of those to be
> trivial. ;)
> Also, most of the time, I'd want a uniformly thin line, not one that's
> thicker at the bottom.
> If you figure it out, I'll love you forever. I'm trying to avoid
> paying $400 for Studio Artist just to illustrate the book I wrote for
> my grandchildren.
> Thank you for any help you can provide.
> Gloria
>
> On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
>
>> For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about options
>> for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)
>>
>> A bare-bones perspective drawing tool could adjust the width of the
>> brush a function of height on the canvas (like the grass tool), so
>> lines drawn at the base are thick and get thinner as you draw higher
>> up.  Pressing 1-9 could affect the global width of the brush, but I'm
>> not sure if the magic API can capture keystrokes...
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:01 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg
>>> wrote:
>>>> Wow. How?
>>>
>>> Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability  
>>> to
>>> compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
>>> (whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
>>> make new versions for you.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
>>> (1) is actually pretty trivial.
>>>
>>> -bill!
>>>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Alas, I am a retired writer/artist, so I have sufficient (2), but  
absolutely no (1) or (3), so I consider neither of those to be  
trivial. ;)
Also, most of the time, I'd want a uniformly thin line, not one that's  
thicker at the bottom.
If you figure it out, I'll love you forever. I'm trying to avoid  
paying $400 for Studio Artist just to illustrate the book I wrote for  
my grandchildren.
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Gloria

On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Martin Fuhrer wrote:

> For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about options
> for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)
>
> A bare-bones perspective drawing tool could adjust the width of the
> brush a function of height on the canvas (like the grass tool), so
> lines drawn at the base are thick and get thinner as you draw higher
> up.  Pressing 1-9 could affect the global width of the brush, but I'm
> not sure if the magic API can capture keystrokes...
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:01 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg
>> wrote:
>>> Wow. How?
>>
>> Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability to
>> compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
>> (whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
>> make new versions for you.
>>
>> Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
>> (1) is actually pretty trivial.
>>
>> -bill!
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> Francisco, CA
>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>> code: SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
>
>
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> Francisco, CA
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> Enterprise
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] [Tuxpaint-devel] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

For the next few weeks I also lack (2), but am thinking about options  
for (1), and (3) is trivial ;)

A bare-bones perspective drawing tool could adjust the width of the  
brush a function of height on the canvas (like the grass tool), so  
lines drawn at the base are thick and get thinner as you draw higher  
up.  Pressing 1-9 could affect the global width of the brush, but I'm  
not sure if the magic API can capture keystrokes...

Martin


On 4-Mar-09, at 8:01 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg  
> wrote:
>> Wow. How?
>
> Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability to
> compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
> (whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
> make new versions for you.
>
> Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
> (1) is actually pretty trivial.
>
> -bill!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] XO laptop saved docs location

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 05:59:00PM -0800, Steve Schaefer wrote:
>    Hi all,
>    My 5-yr-old son and I are using the TuxPaint activity on an XO Laptop (he
>    loves it!), and I'm looking in the usual place where the saved artwork
>    would be: (HOME)/.tuxpaint/saved/
>    But I'm not seeing a (HOME)/.tuxpaint/ directory on my XO.
>    The home directory path is /home/olpc/, which just has Activities -- I've
>    searched thru the tuxpaint directory there a little, but my linux skills
>    are poor, and so far I'm not seeing it.

Files and folders that begin with "." are normally hidden from view by
file browsers and the output of the "ls" command.

If you do "ls -al" in the home directory, you'll spot it, if it's there.
If you're using a graphical file browser, check to see if it has a
"Show Hidden Files & Folders" kind of option.

In any case, regardless of if you can see it, you should still be
able to access it.  e.g., if you issue this command in a terminal:

  cd ~/.tuxpaint/saved/

it should work, if the directory is there.  (Then just do "ls" or "ls -l"
to see the files -- they're PNG format.)


>    Anyone know where the saved drawing files are stored?
>    Thanks in advance!
>    :^)

I can't _guarantee_ that that's where they go.  (I had an XO for a while,
but no time, and less and less inclination to play with it, so I gave
it to a friend.)  But I'm guessing that's where.  If Albert C. is out
here, he can confirm or deny, since I believe he made the XO version.

>    (P.S. Is there a way to search the tuxpaint-users list archives (e.g., for
>    the word XO)? I'm not familiar with the sourceforge archive system.)

Blah, I think the only archives they provide is via the 'forum' web pages.

Ah, but I see a "Search" link in the "Mailing Lists" popup menu that's
across the orange top part of the page.  That leads here:

  https://sourceforge.net/search/?group_id=66938&type_of_search=mlists

On that page, you can search for keywords or phrases on one or more of the
project's mailing lists.  I did a search for "XO" on the 'tuxpaint-users' list,
which returned the results found here:

  https://sourceforge.net/search/index.php?group_id=66938&search_subject=1&search_body=1&type_of_search=mlists&all_words=&exact_phrase=XO&some_word=&without_words=&ml_name[]=tuxpaint-users&posted_date_start=&posted_date_end=&form_submit=Search

(Well, it's actually giving me an unhappy face an a timeout error, but perhaps
it'll work when you try it.)

Good luck!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg wrote:
> Wow. How?

Someone with (1) coding skills, (2) free time, and (3) the ability to
compile for the Mac, would need to grab the existing tools
(whichever ones you wanted thinner versions of), and tweak them to
make new versions for you.

Sadly, I lack both (2) and (3). :^(
(1) is actually pretty trivial.

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] XO laptop saved docs location

[Steve S. <ste...@st...>]

Hi all,

My 5-yr-old son and I are using the TuxPaint activity on an XO Laptop  
(he loves it!), and I'm looking in the usual place where the saved  
artwork would be: (HOME)/.tuxpaint/saved/

But I'm not seeing a (HOME)/.tuxpaint/ directory on my XO.

The home directory path is /home/olpc/, which just has Activities --  
I've searched thru the tuxpaint directory there a little, but my  
linux skills are poor, and so far I'm not seeing it.

Anyone know where the saved drawing files are stored?

Thanks in advance!
:^)
-Steve

(P.S. Is there a way to search the tuxpaint-users list archives  
(e.g., for the word XO)? I'm not familiar with the sourceforge  
archive system.)

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Wow. How?
Gloria

On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:13:56AM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg  
> wrote:
>> Because of the line width problem with Tux Paint, I'm probably not
>> going to be able to use it to illustrate my book. Still, it's a GREAT
>> program, and I love it!
>
> What's nice about the fact that the Magic Tools are plug-ins now, is  
> that
> someone could fairly trivially create a few 'thinner' versions of the
> effects Gloria is looking for, and build them for her for Mac OS X.
>
> Hint hint. ;)
>
> -bill!
>
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[Tuxpaint-users] Thinner magic tools (Was re: tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:13:56AM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg wrote:
> Because of the line width problem with Tux Paint, I'm probably not  
> going to be able to use it to illustrate my book. Still, it's a GREAT  
> program, and I love it!

What's nice about the fact that the Magic Tools are plug-ins now, is that
someone could fairly trivially create a few 'thinner' versions of the
effects Gloria is looking for, and build them for her for Mac OS X.

Hint hint. ;)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio

[Martin W. <mw...@ke...>]

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