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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

I think we've solved the problem by disabling "Time Machine," which  
backs up everything on the computer continually, while I'm working in  
a graphics program. It just couldn't keep up with me, is my theory. ;)
My husband did a number of diagnostics after the iMac shut down  
unexpectedly while I was using Tux Paint or Painter X, and decided to  
replace the power thing (source or panel or whatever it's called)  
inside the computer, as well. Seems to be doing fine now, as long as I  
turn off Time Machine while I'm working.
(At my age, it's nice to know I still can move faster than  
something.) ;)
Because of the line width problem with Tux Paint, I'm probably not  
going to be able to use it to illustrate my book. Still, it's a GREAT  
program, and I love it!
Gloria
On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 07:42:37AM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg  
> wrote:
>> I was almost ready to buy a new iMac because of crashes using Tux
>> Paint! So glad you solved the problem...
>> Gloria
>
> Hi Gloria - Well, I'm talking about the server that the tuxpaint.org
> website is running on.
>
> As for Tux Paint _itself_ crashing (on your computer), can you tell
> us more about what's going on?  (Sorry if you have already, and I
> just forgot -- been very busy around my household and job lately!)
>
> -bill!
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 07:42:37AM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg wrote:
> I was almost ready to buy a new iMac because of crashes using Tux  
> Paint! So glad you solved the problem...
> Gloria

Hi Gloria - Well, I'm talking about the server that the tuxpaint.org
website is running on.

As for Tux Paint _itself_ crashing (on your computer), can you tell
us more about what's going on?  (Sorry if you have already, and I
just forgot -- been very busy around my household and job lately!)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

I was almost ready to buy a new iMac because of crashes using Tux  
Paint! So glad you solved the problem...
Gloria

On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

>
> My friend Graham Freeman is founder (and general manager) of
> Cernio Technology Co-operative. ( http://www.cernio.com/ )
>
> Very recently, he asked if Cernio could provide hosting for
> tuxpaint.org.  Soon after receiving that email, the hard disk of the
> server at ServerBeach that was hosting tuxpaint.org started failing
> (the server would die numerous times per day).
>
> Long story short, with a lot of help from him via IRC, tuxpaint.org is
> now hosted on a virtual private server at Cernio, and should  
> (hopefully)
> be humming along now.  If anyone notices problems with the website,
> do let me know!
>
> Thanks and enjoy, -- and sorry for the down time while the  
> ServerBeach system
> was in its death throes!
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS  
> X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
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[Tuxpaint-users] tuxpaint.org now hosted by Cernio

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

My friend Graham Freeman is founder (and general manager) of
Cernio Technology Co-operative. ( http://www.cernio.com/ )

Very recently, he asked if Cernio could provide hosting for
tuxpaint.org.  Soon after receiving that email, the hard disk of the
server at ServerBeach that was hosting tuxpaint.org started failing
(the server would die numerous times per day).

Long story short, with a lot of help from him via IRC, tuxpaint.org is
now hosted on a virtual private server at Cernio, and should (hopefully)
be humming along now.  If anyone notices problems with the website,
do let me know!

Thanks and enjoy, -- and sorry for the down time while the ServerBeach system
was in its death throes!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] user's manual

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:11:58PM -0500, Gloria Taylor Weinberg wrote:
> Bill,
> Is there a way to change the line width(as well as the width of other  
> features, such as darken or lighten) in order to draw things in  
> perspective (like telephone poles or fence posts going away from you)?

Hi - Not at the moment.  The main reason is to try and keep things
simple.  (We'd need to display a set of brush shapes, or a scaler -- like
we use with Stamps -- somewhere on the screen.)

It might be something worth thinking about, but we've got bigger
fish to fry at th emoment. ;)


> I don't see a way to "buy" a copy of the program; I only see the free  
> download.

Tux Paint's entirely free.  There IS a CDROM containing Tux Paint
that you can buy via CafePress.com, but it's VERY out of date.
If you've downloaded Tux Paint from the website, you've already got
the latest version with all the current features! :)


> Can you help please?
> It truly is amazing, what you've done with this "children's" program!  
> Can't wait to teach it to my grandchildren, but first I need to learn  
> it myself...

Based on stories I've heard, even if you try and learn it inside-out,
the kids will still figure out how to do things you didn't think of. ;^)

By the way, for some Tux Paint artistic inspiration, check out the gallery:
http://www.tuxpaint.org/gallery/

(There are still literally HUNDREDS of pictures that I haven't had time
to add to the gallery yet. :^/  I need to make it more self-serve one of
these days.)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] user's manual

[Gloria T. W. <glo...@be...>]

Bill,
Is there a way to change the line width(as well as the width of other  
features, such as darken or lighten) in order to draw things in  
perspective (like telephone poles or fence posts going away from you)?
I don't see a way to "buy" a copy of the program; I only see the free  
download.
Can you help please?
It truly is amazing, what you've done with this "children's" program!  
Can't wait to teach it to my grandchildren, but first I need to learn  
it myself...
Thanks,
Gloria

On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Gloria Weinberg wrote:

> You're my hero, Bill. I thank you; my grandchildren thank you; we all
> thank you!
>
> On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:07:07PM -0500, Gloria Weinberg wrote:
>>> Dear Sirs,
>>> Is there a manual explaining what this program will do and how to
>>> accomplish certain tasks?
>>
>> Hi Gloria.  There is a manual that describes each of the tools and
>> features of Tux Paint.  It should have come with your copy of Tux
>> Paint,
>> but you can also read most of the manual online:
>>
>> http://www.tuxpaint.org/docs/
>>
>> It's not really _task_-oriented (i.e., 'how to draw like an oil
>> painting',
>> or anything like that), but should be sufficient, I think!
>>
>>
>>> Can I import existing art or photos into Tux Paint, for instance?
>>
>> This is explained in the docs.  For loading pictures to just draw on
>> them,
>> you should convert them to PNG format and place them in Tux Paint's
>> saved-files folder.  (See: http://www.tuxpaint.org/gallery/submit/
>> for a
>> brief description of where to find that folder.)
>>
>> For creating new Stamps, Brushes or Starter Images, see the
>> "Extending Tux Paint" documentation (available at the URL above).
>>
>>
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>> You're welcome!  If you have any other questions, feel free to post
>> them
>> here!
>>
>> -- 
>> -bill!
>> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS
>> X / Linux!
>> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> Francisco, CA
>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>> code: SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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>
>
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> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] user's manual

[Gloria W. <glo...@be...>]

You're my hero, Bill. I thank you; my grandchildren thank you; we all  
thank you!

On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:07:07PM -0500, Gloria Weinberg wrote:
>> Dear Sirs,
>> Is there a manual explaining what this program will do and how to
>> accomplish certain tasks?
>
> Hi Gloria.  There is a manual that describes each of the tools and
> features of Tux Paint.  It should have come with your copy of Tux  
> Paint,
> but you can also read most of the manual online:
>
>  http://www.tuxpaint.org/docs/
>
> It's not really _task_-oriented (i.e., 'how to draw like an oil  
> painting',
> or anything like that), but should be sufficient, I think!
>
>
>> Can I import existing art or photos into Tux Paint, for instance?
>
> This is explained in the docs.  For loading pictures to just draw on  
> them,
> you should convert them to PNG format and place them in Tux Paint's
> saved-files folder.  (See: http://www.tuxpaint.org/gallery/submit/  
> for a
> brief description of where to find that folder.)
>
> For creating new Stamps, Brushes or Starter Images, see the
> "Extending Tux Paint" documentation (available at the URL above).
>
>
>> Thank you for your help.
>
> You're welcome!  If you have any other questions, feel free to post  
> them
> here!
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS  
> X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> _______________________________________________
> Tuxpaint-users mailing list
> Tux...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] user's manual

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:07:07PM -0500, Gloria Weinberg wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
> Is there a manual explaining what this program will do and how to  
> accomplish certain tasks?

Hi Gloria.  There is a manual that describes each of the tools and
features of Tux Paint.  It should have come with your copy of Tux Paint,
but you can also read most of the manual online:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/docs/

It's not really _task_-oriented (i.e., 'how to draw like an oil painting',
or anything like that), but should be sufficient, I think!


> Can I import existing art or photos into Tux Paint, for instance?

This is explained in the docs.  For loading pictures to just draw on them,
you should convert them to PNG format and place them in Tux Paint's
saved-files folder.  (See: http://www.tuxpaint.org/gallery/submit/ for a
brief description of where to find that folder.)

For creating new Stamps, Brushes or Starter Images, see the
"Extending Tux Paint" documentation (available at the URL above).


> Thank you for your help.

You're welcome!  If you have any other questions, feel free to post them
here!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] user's manual

[Gloria W. <glo...@be...>]

Dear Sirs,
Is there a manual explaining what this program will do and how to  
accomplish certain tasks?
Can I import existing art or photos into Tux Paint, for instance?
Thank you for your help.
Gloria

[Tuxpaint-users] TuxPaint included in new Linux distro.

[Michael <Mi...@qi...>]

I just wanted to write the list and let you know that I am releasing a
derivative of Ubuntu called Qimo, that will include TuxPaint as one of
several games for kids.

I put Qimo together as part of a charity that turns second-hand
computers into educational and entertaining machines for kids aged 3 and
up.  You can learn more about us at http://quinncoincorporated.org and
coming soon at http://www.qimo4kids.com


-- 
Michael <Mi...@qi...>
Qimo4Kids

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Printing on debian lenny

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 04:09:13PM +0100, Josef Schwendt wrote:
> I've installed tuxpaint on a debian-lenny - CUPS is installed - but
> printing does not work ... How can i manage it?

Which version is on Lenny?  (You can just run "tuxpaint -v" to find out.)

In any case, by default, Tux Paint uses the command-line 'lpr' program
on Linux, so you might need to install a compatibility package to get
that with CUPS.

(I use KDE and have a networked printer, so things 'just worked' for
me after setting up the printer in KDE's GUI config.)

If there's another program you would use to send PostScript output
to your printer, you can set it in Tux Paint's config file.
(Global file is: /etc/tuxpaint/tuxpaint.conf
User-specific file is: ~/.tuxpaintrc )

You can also use the tuxpaint-config GUI configuration tool if you've
installed it.

Good luck,

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Printing on debian lenny

[Josef S. <j.s...@sa...>]

I've installed tuxpaint on a debian-lenny - CUPS is installed - but
printing does not work ... How can i manage it?

joe


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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Multiple users?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:13:15PM -0500, Ann Reigle wrote:
> I'd like to know how to have multiple users to Tuxpaint, so that the slide show could be only the work done by one specific student.  
> As a new user to this program, I'm liking it far better than old faithful KidPix, but really miss the ability to have a slide show from just one student's work.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give, Ann Reigle

Hi Ann.  By default, Tux Paint should adhere to whatever user accounting
your computers are using.  In other words, if each student logs in
separately, their pictures should end up getting stored in their
'home directory'.

For example, on Windows XP, the pictures get stored in:
  C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\TuxPaint\saved

In Vista:
  C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\TuxPaint\saved

And on Mac OS X:
  /Users/USERNAME/Library/Applicaton Support/TuxPaint/saved/

In each example above, you'd replace "USERNAME" with the name of the user.


Now, if all of your students are accessing Tux Paint from the same account
on the computer, you'd need to tell Tux Paint to specifically save in
different folders, depending on who's using the system.

I've never used KidPix, so I'm not sure how it did it, but a number of
years ago I created a simple little 'front-end' to Tux Paint that provided
a list of items that a user choses from.  It then launches Tux Paint for them.
Depending on the choice, it tells Tux Paint to load and save files from
a different folder.  (It just invokes Tux Paint with the "--savedir"
command-line option.)

It's available for Linux (KDE 3.5) and Windows (requires Python).
You can learn about it and download it from here:

ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/savedir/

Let me know whether that helps in any way!

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Multiple users?

[Ann R. <re...@mh...>]

I'd like to know how to have multiple users to Tuxpaint, so that the slide show could be only the work done by one specific student.  
As a new user to this program, I'm liking it far better than old faithful KidPix, but really miss the ability to have a slide show from just one student's work.

Thanks for any help you can give, Ann Reigle

Ann Reigle
Technology Facilitator
Memorial Hall
717-520-2435
re...@mh...

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Make your self in the manner of Andy Warhol with Tux paint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:43:38PM +0000, Caroline Ford wrote:
> We do need to make it easier to import photos to draw on/over..
> 

And add webcam support. :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Make your self in the manner of Andy Warhol with Tux paint

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

We do need to make it easier to import photos to draw on/over..

Caroline

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jan 2009, at 20:00, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:

>
> I just discovered this blog post (in French):
>
>  Faire son autoportrait `a la mani`ere d'Andy Warhol avec Tux paint
>  (Make your self in the manner of Andy Warhol with Tux paint)
>  http://blogs.nathan.fr/tice-et-b2i_ee/2009/01/21/faire-son-autoportrait-a-la-maniere-d 
> âandy-warhol-avec-tux-paint/
>
> (That link includes a non-ASCII character that I'm not sure is  
> coming out
> right.  In any case, you can find it via:
> http://blogs.nathan.fr/tice-et-b2i_ee/ )
>
> The general concept is: (1) take a photo of yourself, (2) place it in
> Tux Paint's saved-files directory, (3) open it in Tux Paint and use  
> the
> 'Colorize' Magic tool, (4) your photo now looks like an Andy Warhol  
> portrait
> ;)
>
> -- 
> -bill!
> "Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS  
> X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
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[Tuxpaint-users] Make your self in the manner of Andy Warhol with Tux paint

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I just discovered this blog post (in French):

  Faire son autoportrait `a la mani`ere d'Andy Warhol avec Tux paint
  (Make your self in the manner of Andy Warhol with Tux paint)
  http://blogs.nathan.fr/tice-et-b2i_ee/2009/01/21/faire-son-autoportrait-a-la-maniere-dâandy-warhol-avec-tux-paint/

(That link includes a non-ASCII character that I'm not sure is coming out
right.  In any case, you can find it via:
http://blogs.nathan.fr/tice-et-b2i_ee/ )

The general concept is: (1) take a photo of yourself, (2) place it in
Tux Paint's saved-files directory, (3) open it in Tux Paint and use the
'Colorize' Magic tool, (4) your photo now looks like an Andy Warhol portrait
;)

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint in the 2009 DesktopLinux survey

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I was just filling out the DesktopLinux.com annual Linux desktop market
survey and noticed Tux Paint is one of the choices in the graphics
category! :)

If you run Tux Paint on Linux, I encourage you to go vote ;)

http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?id=0115200914416


-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Digital Arts & Crafts Studio

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 03:58:29AM -0800, alinuxfan wrote:
> Have there been any new developments for this project?  My wife bought one
> of these for our children for Christmas.

Unfortunately, no new developments that I know of.  (I must remind my friend
to bring the device back when he comes to visit this weekend! :) )

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint Error

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Hi Cindy.  You had posted this without subscribing to the tuxpaint-users
mailing list, and I didn't notice it had gotten 'caught' by the mailing
list software until today.  Sorry for the delay.

I'm Cc'ing John Popplewell, who ports Tux Paint to Windows for us, in case
he has any ideas, or needs to request further details from you (like
specific details about the systems that work and don't work).

Thanks and good luck!

-bill!

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 04:56:54PM -0500, Cindy Crafton wrote:
>    I have installed from these files on several machines with no problem,
>    however on one machine I keep getting a tuxpaint.exe - application error.
> 
>     
> 
>    I working on WinXP Pro, I first installed version 9.2. I uninstalled it
>    and installed 9.19. I get the same error when I try to execute the
>    program. Any ideas?
> 
>     
> 
>    Thanks in advance for your help. Have a blessed day!
> 
>    Cindy

-- 
-bill!
"Tux Paint" - free children's drawing software for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux!
Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint-users Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 03:51:00PM -0500, Misty wrote:
> Would the Copyright cost a lot? Maybe we can all chip in a bit & help with 
> the cost just to protect yourself... I know I would be willing to help!!

This I do not know.  I'm asking SPI (Tux4Kids is now an associated
project) whether they can help with do this.  (I'm guessing we'd need to
pay for it...  we may have some money left from GSOC 2008 mentor payments,
and we'll probably want to trademark Tux4Kids, Tux Paint, TuxMath and
TuxTyping, and whatever appropriate variations there may be.)

I'll get on this soon.  Thanks, all!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:31:08PM +0100, Mara Morosini wrote:
> I think it is better to understand if it is really an enhanced version
> of tuxpaint, and if not ...
> I can understand you, if you think  to register the name "tuxpaint" as
> a registered tradename.

This is precisely what I'm thinking.

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

I think we should trademark tuxpaint. I have a box with an xp  
partition here and I can install and test with various anti-spyware  
apps tomorrow.

Caroline

Sent from my iPod

On 14 Dec 2008, at 02:15, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:

>
> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti- 
> virus
> scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't
> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under  
> Linux.)
>
> It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very  
> likely
> that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't  
> tried
> yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web  
> browser.
>
> Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I  
> came across
> an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called  
> "InfraRecorder Plus"
> that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."
>
> InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux  
> Paint,
> is released under the GNU GPL.
>
> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software  
> around it,
> and re-releasing it.
>
>
> Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
> It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
> seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
> govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
> other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")
>
> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
>
> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid  
> these kinds
> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- 
> -bill!
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> X / Linux!
> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Bruno D. <bru...@gm...>]

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
>
> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-virus
> scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't
> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under Linux.)
>
> It appears that this software installs not just Tux Paint (it's very likely
> that it's just regular Tux Paint, and nothing special -- I haven't tried
> yet, though), but also some kind of 'search toolbar' in ones web browser.
>
> Doing a quick search on Google for "open source plus toolbar," I came across
> an EULA (end user license agreement) for something called "InfraRecorder Plus"
> that has the same wording as the one I saw in "Tux Paint Plus."
>
> InfraRecorder is a CD/DVD writing tool for Windows that, like Tux Paint,
> is released under the GNU GPL.
>
> So it looks like someone (whomever is responsible for this toolbar) is
> grabbing open source software, wrapping this 'toolbar' software around it,
> and re-releasing it.
>
>
> Does anyone out here have any additional comments or info about this?
> It's not clear whether they are breaking the rules of the GPL (it
> seems unlikely, as the EULA I read states: "These TOOLBAR TERMS OF USE
> govern your use of the Toolbar only. Other terms of use govern any
> other software that you may choose to install on your computer.")
>
> However, I'm worried about people becoming confused about "Tux Paint"
> versus "Tux Paint Plus."  It want it to be clear that the 'official'
> versions of Tux Paint are the ones released by us, the current set of
> developer volunteers, and that we cannot be held responsible for any
> problems that come up by using this "plus" version.
>
> (During the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October, it was
> recommended that we trademark the name "Tux Paint" to help avoid these kinds
> of issues.  How do people feel about that?)

It's a good ideia. I think you should do it.

>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
> -bill!
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> Download it today!  http://www.tuxpaint.org/
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] "Tux Paint Plus"

[Mara M. <mar...@gm...>]

Dear Bill,
I had a look, a lot of web pages offer the "Tux Paint Plus" to download.

I am worried too, probably people can  suppose it is something better
than "normal" tuxpaint, because it is described as "an enhanced
version of Tux Paint".

I think it is better to understand if it is really an enhanced version
of tuxpaint, and if not ...
I can understand you, if you think  to register the name "tuxpaint" as
a registered tradename.

Best regards,

Mara (Italy)

2008/12/14, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>:
>
> I discovered something called "Tux Paint Plus" today.  I ran anti-virus
> scanning software (clamav's "clamscan" tool) against it, and it didn't
> find anything, so I launched the program.  (I used "Wine" under Linux.)