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[webmin-l] ftp backup sometimes failes

[Pat E. <mai...@pa...>]

hello jamie,

i use your new ftp remote backup in the filesystem backup module. it works  
quite well but two issues come up from time to time:

1) my huge /home partition is sometimes not backupped. on the remote site  
is a file with 0 bytes created. unfortunately, this prevents the backup on  
the next day..

2) sometimes all backup.pl jobs seem to stay alive even when backup is  
finished which prevents the backup on next day. i help myself here with a  
cron job right before the backup wich killall buckup.pl - but maybe we can  
find out what's the problem here..

are there any logfiles i could look at, debug levels i can raise?

regards,

PAT

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 9/Oct/2006 13:47 MAR wrote ..
> 
> > > So, I have "combined" under "access log format" already - I change
> "Default
> > > Log Format" to "combined", and that will take care of it?
> > 
> > Or better still, you can find the 'Access log files' entry for the log
> > in question, and change it's format to combined.
> 
> Where in webmin would that be?
> 
> I go to:
> 
> Servers > Apache > (Specific Virtual Server) > Log Files

Yes .. in the 'Access log files' section.
If there is no log there for your virtual server, you should go to
Servers -> Apache -> Default Server -> Log Files.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[MAR <we...@ro...>]

> > So, I have "combined" under "access log format" already - I change "Default
> > Log Format" to "combined", and that will take care of it?
> 
> Or better still, you can find the 'Access log files' entry for the log
> in question, and change it's format to combined.

Where in webmin would that be?

I go to:

Servers > Apache > (Specific Virtual Server) > Log Files

Thanks,

MR

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 9/Oct/2006 12:23 MAR wrote ..
> Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> > On 9/Oct/2006 12:13 MAR wrote ..
> > > Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> > > > On 9/Oct/2006 12:04 Michael Romagnoli wrote ..
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jamie;
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have
> any
> > > suggestions
> > > > > as to why?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Search Keyphrases
> > > > > Connect to site from
> > > > > Browsers (Top 10)
> > > > > Operating Systems (Top 10)
> > > > > Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
> > > > > Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)
> > > > 
> > > > Is your Apache log setup to include referer and browser information?
> > > 
> > > I have it set as "Common Log Format" and "combined".
> > > 
> > > Is there anything else or special I should do?
> > 
> > combined in the format you want - the 'common' format doesn't include
> > referer and browser info. 
> 
> So, I have "combined" under "access log format" already - I change "Default
> Log Format" to "combined", and that will take care of it?

Or better still, you can find the 'Access log files' entry for the log
in question, and change it's format to combined.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[MAR <we...@ro...>]

Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> On 9/Oct/2006 12:13 MAR wrote ..
> > Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> > > On 9/Oct/2006 12:04 Michael Romagnoli wrote ..
> > > > 
> > > > Jamie;
> > > > 
> > > > I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have any
> > suggestions
> > > > as to why?
> > > > 
> > > > Search Keyphrases
> > > > Connect to site from
> > > > Browsers (Top 10)
> > > > Operating Systems (Top 10)
> > > > Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
> > > > Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)
> > > 
> > > Is your Apache log setup to include referer and browser information?
> > 
> > I have it set as "Common Log Format" and "combined".
> > 
> > Is there anything else or special I should do?
> 
> combined in the format you want - the 'common' format doesn't include
> referer and browser info. 

So, I have "combined" under "access log format" already - I change "Default Log Format" to "combined", and that will take care of it?

:)

Thanks,

MR

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 9/Oct/2006 12:13 MAR wrote ..
> Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> > On 9/Oct/2006 12:04 Michael Romagnoli wrote ..
> > > 
> > > Jamie;
> > > 
> > > I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have any
> suggestions
> > > as to why?
> > > 
> > > Search Keyphrases
> > > Connect to site from
> > > Browsers (Top 10)
> > > Operating Systems (Top 10)
> > > Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
> > > Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)
> > 
> > Is your Apache log setup to include referer and browser information?
> 
> I have it set as "Common Log Format" and "combined".
> 
> Is there anything else or special I should do?

combined in the format you want - the 'common' format doesn't include
referer and browser info. 

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[MAR <we...@ro...>]

Jamie Cameron wrote ..
> On 9/Oct/2006 12:04 Michael Romagnoli wrote ..
> > 
> > Jamie;
> > 
> > I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have any suggestions
> > as to why?
> > 
> > Search Keyphrases
> > Connect to site from
> > Browsers (Top 10)
> > Operating Systems (Top 10)
> > Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
> > Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)
> 
> Is your Apache log setup to include referer and browser information?

I have it set as "Common Log Format" and "combined".

Is there anything else or special I should do?

Thanks,

-MR

Re: [webmin-l] Awstats

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 9/Oct/2006 12:04 Michael Romagnoli wrote ..
> 
> Jamie;
> 
> I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have any suggestions
> as to why?
> 
> Search Keyphrases
> Connect to site from
> Browsers (Top 10)
> Operating Systems (Top 10)
> Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
> Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)

Is your Apache log setup to include referer and browser information?

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Awstats

[Michael R. <we...@ro...>]

Jamie;

I am not getting the following info from awstats - do you have any suggestions as to why?

Search Keyphrases
Connect to site from
Browsers (Top 10)
Operating Systems (Top 10)
Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 10) 
Visitors domains/countries (Top 10)

Thanks!

-MR

Re: [webmin-l] Shorewall Setup

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 9/Oct/2006 08:59 Phil Ewington - 43 Plc wrote ..
> Hi All,
> 
> I have just installed Shorewall via Webmin and it will not start. Webmin
> just states it will not start and does not give a reason. When I run
> start.cgi from /usr/libexec/webmin/shorewall/ I get the following error...
> 
> [root@ns shorewall]# ./start.cgi
> Undefined subroutine &main::init_config called at ./shorewall-lib.pl line
> 6.
> Compilation failed in require at ./start.cgi line 5.
> 
> Why??
> 
> I looked in the config file and all the paths are wrong, there simply is
> no actions directory anywhere on my server nor is there an actions.std
> file! What is needed to actually make this module work?

You might want to try running the command  shorewall start  as root from the
shell prompt. This is the command Webmin tries to call..

Running start.cgi from the command line will never work, as it is a CGI script
that expects to be run from the Webmin web server.

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Shorewall Setup

[Phil E. - 43 P. <phi...@43...>]

Hi All,

I have just installed Shorewall via Webmin and it will not start. Webmin
just states it will not start and does not give a reason. When I run
start.cgi from /usr/libexec/webmin/shorewall/ I get the following error...

[root@ns shorewall]# ./start.cgi
Undefined subroutine &main::init_config called at ./shorewall-lib.pl line 6.
Compilation failed in require at ./start.cgi line 5.

Why??

I looked in the config file and all the paths are wrong, there simply is
no actions directory anywhere on my server nor is there an actions.std
file! What is needed to actually make this module work?

TIA

Phil.

Re: [webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 8/Oct/2006 11:55 Craig White wrote ..
> On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 10:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 7/Oct/2006 22:49 Craig White wrote ..
> > > On Sat, 2006-10-07 at 21:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > > On 7/Oct/2006 19:46 Craig White wrote ..
> > > > > I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin
> when
> > > > > creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though
> > > the
> > > > > objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
> > > > > automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
> > > > > (longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like
> > > > > 
> > > > >    /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> > > > > 
> > > > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > > > 
> > > > > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> > > > > 
> > > > > (actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when
> saved
> > > in
> > > > > DSA)
> > > > > 
> > > > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > > > 
> > > > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > > > > 
> > > > > so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto
> entries
> > > > > so they process properly in your perl scripts.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > Is ${USER} a substitution done by the LDAP server, or by Webmin?
> Normally
> > > when you
> > > > specific an extra LDAP attribute like ${SOMETHING}, it will be replaced
> > > when the user
> > > > is saved with some attribute of the new user..
> > > ----
> > > ${USER} is something I have only used in webmin ldap_useradmin config
> so
> > > that it replaces that token with the actual 'account' that it is
> > > creating (the uid)
> > > ----
> > > > 
> > > > What did you mean by 'escape the auto extries' exactly?
> > > ----
> > > It's odd but if I put these entries in 'LDAP Properties for all new
> > > users'...
> > > 
> > > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > > 
> > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > > 
> > > both are ignored when I create the user.
> > > 
> > > When I edit the already created user and enter something like (using
> > > ldap_useradmin):
> > > 
> > > /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> > >    in apple-user-homeDirectory 
> > > 
> > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> > >    in apple-user-homeurl
> > > 
> > > They are accepted
> > 
> > I think I know the reason - on the Module Config page, you need to enter
> these extra
> > attributes in the format :
> > 
> > apple-user-homeDirectory: /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > apple-user-homeurl: <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > 
> > Note the colon after the attribute name. I will add a comment about this
> on the Module
> > Config page in the next Webmin release.
> ----
> indeed - that made the difference. Curious that I also had it
> auto-entering a value for calFBURL (horde/imp schema) without the colon
> and it entered fine but also in checking, the samba attributes that are
> automatically added, I did have the colon.

Odd .. it shouldn't work at all without the colon.

> In the interest of clarity, I don't have a colon in 'Extra LDAP User
> properties to allow editing...' - should I be adding a colon after the
> attribute?

No, that module config field doesn't require colons. Which is in-consistent, I admit!

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Craig W. <cra...@az...>]

On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 10:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 7/Oct/2006 22:49 Craig White wrote ..
> > On Sat, 2006-10-07 at 21:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > On 7/Oct/2006 19:46 Craig White wrote ..
> > > > I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin when
> > > > creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though
> > the
> > > > objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
> > > > automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
> > > > (longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.
> > > > 
> > > > 1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like
> > > > 
> > > >    /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> > > > 
> > > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > > 
> > > > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > > > 
> > > > 2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> > > > 
> > > > (actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when saved
> > in
> > > > DSA)
> > > > 
> > > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > > 
> > > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > > > 
> > > > so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto entries
> > > > so they process properly in your perl scripts.
> > > > 
> > > > Suggestions?
> > > 
> > > Is ${USER} a substitution done by the LDAP server, or by Webmin? Normally
> > when you
> > > specific an extra LDAP attribute like ${SOMETHING}, it will be replaced
> > when the user
> > > is saved with some attribute of the new user..
> > ----
> > ${USER} is something I have only used in webmin ldap_useradmin config so
> > that it replaces that token with the actual 'account' that it is
> > creating (the uid)
> > ----
> > > 
> > > What did you mean by 'escape the auto extries' exactly?
> > ----
> > It's odd but if I put these entries in 'LDAP Properties for all new
> > users'...
> > 
> > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > 
> > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > 
> > both are ignored when I create the user.
> > 
> > When I edit the already created user and enter something like (using
> > ldap_useradmin):
> > 
> > /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> >    in apple-user-homeDirectory 
> > 
> > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> >    in apple-user-homeurl
> > 
> > They are accepted
> 
> I think I know the reason - on the Module Config page, you need to enter these extra
> attributes in the format :
> 
> apple-user-homeDirectory: /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> apple-user-homeurl: <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> 
> Note the colon after the attribute name. I will add a comment about this on the Module
> Config page in the next Webmin release.
----
indeed - that made the difference. Curious that I also had it
auto-entering a value for calFBURL (horde/imp schema) without the colon
and it entered fine but also in checking, the samba attributes that are
automatically added, I did have the colon.

In the interest of clarity, I don't have a colon in 'Extra LDAP User
properties to allow editing...' - should I be adding a colon after the
attribute?

Craig

Re: [webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 7/Oct/2006 22:49 Craig White wrote ..
> On Sat, 2006-10-07 at 21:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 7/Oct/2006 19:46 Craig White wrote ..
> > > I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin when
> > > creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though
> the
> > > objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
> > > automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
> > > (longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.
> > > 
> > > 1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like
> > > 
> > >    /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> > > 
> > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > 
> > > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > > 
> > > 2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like
> > > 
> > > 
> > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> > > 
> > > (actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when saved
> in
> > > DSA)
> > > 
> > > so my auto enter looks like
> > > 
> > > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > > 
> > > so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto entries
> > > so they process properly in your perl scripts.
> > > 
> > > Suggestions?
> > 
> > Is ${USER} a substitution done by the LDAP server, or by Webmin? Normally
> when you
> > specific an extra LDAP attribute like ${SOMETHING}, it will be replaced
> when the user
> > is saved with some attribute of the new user..
> ----
> ${USER} is something I have only used in webmin ldap_useradmin config so
> that it replaces that token with the actual 'account' that it is
> creating (the uid)
> ----
> > 
> > What did you mean by 'escape the auto extries' exactly?
> ----
> It's odd but if I put these entries in 'LDAP Properties for all new
> users'...
> 
> apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> 
> <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> 
> both are ignored when I create the user.
> 
> When I edit the already created user and enter something like (using
> ldap_useradmin):
> 
> /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
>    in apple-user-homeDirectory 
> 
> <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
>    in apple-user-homeurl
> 
> They are accepted

I think I know the reason - on the Module Config page, you need to enter these extra
attributes in the format :

apple-user-homeDirectory: /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
apple-user-homeurl: <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>

Note the colon after the attribute name. I will add a comment about this on the Module
Config page in the next Webmin release.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Craig W. <cra...@az...>]

On Sat, 2006-10-07 at 21:40 -0700, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 7/Oct/2006 19:46 Craig White wrote ..
> > I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin when
> > creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though the
> > objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
> > automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
> > (longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.
> > 
> > 1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like
> > 
> >    /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> > 
> > so my auto enter looks like
> > 
> > apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> > 
> > 2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like
> > 
> > 
> > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> > 
> > (actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when saved in
> > DSA)
> > 
> > so my auto enter looks like
> > 
> > <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> > 
> > so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto entries
> > so they process properly in your perl scripts.
> > 
> > Suggestions?
> 
> Is ${USER} a substitution done by the LDAP server, or by Webmin? Normally when you
> specific an extra LDAP attribute like ${SOMETHING}, it will be replaced when the user
> is saved with some attribute of the new user..
----
${USER} is something I have only used in webmin ldap_useradmin config so
that it replaces that token with the actual 'account' that it is
creating (the uid)
----
> 
> What did you mean by 'escape the auto extries' exactly?
----
It's odd but if I put these entries in 'LDAP Properties for all new
users'...

apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}

<home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>

both are ignored when I create the user.

When I edit the already created user and enter something like (using
ldap_useradmin):

/Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
   in apple-user-homeDirectory 

<home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
   in apple-user-homeurl

They are accepted

Craig

Re: [webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be relatedto Usermin...

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

I think I'll try that to and see what happens.

However for the long term I think I'll also change our mail delivery 
systems too because its looking like our mail load is only going to get 
bigger as time goes by.:>

Thank you both for the help and suggestions.
-Jesse


ra...@si... wrote:
>    I have been fighting this problem for some time now, and it always seems 
> to be specific users from specific PC's, and I can never personally 
> reproduce the problem, but just see the results of it's occurance (though 
> I have taken some interesting core files that seem to point to a Perl 
> related issue).
>
>    However, as I am also using Dovecot for pop/imap, I changed the access 
> to using localhost imap, and the problem seems to have not returned for 
> these users.
>
> rf
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Jamie Cameron wrote:
>
>   
>> On 6/Oct/2006 21:25 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>>     
>>> Currently I'm using Sendmail with the mbox format.  What you say does
>>> make sense though.  Towards the end of the year I did notice our email
>>> traffic increasing so it would be only reasonable that the old way of
>>> doing things could cause us issues with incoming mail on the rise.
>>>
>>> Doing a quick search on google I noticed that doing Maildir shouldn't be
>>> a huge problem with some minor mods to promailrc.  However what I don't
>>> understand is does that mean new mail goes into
>>> /var/spool/mail/username/<messages here> or would it be
>>> ~username/mail/inbox/<messages here>?
>>>       
>> Typically, the inbox for Maildir format is ~/Maildir .
>> You can have mail delivered to this with a line in /etc/procmailrc like
>>
>> DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
>>
>>     
>>> Lastly, as far as the conversion is usermin cabable of reading two
>>> different formats at a time?  I ask because I wonder can I just convert
>>> say all the inboxs first, wait to see what it does, and then convert all
>>> of their personal folders.  Or do I need to do both sides of the puzzle
>>> at the same time?
>>>       
>> Yes, it can read both - you can have the inbox in Maildir format, but
>> keep other folders in mbox format under users' ~/mail directories.
>>
>> - Jamie
>>
>>     
>>> We currently are using Dovecot for the Pop3 / Imap side of things and it
>>> appears to be really easy to convert to the different setting.
>>>
>>> Thanks Jaime, bTw.
>>> -Jesse
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On 6/Oct/2006 12:06 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have
>>>>> been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run
>>>>> the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really
>>>>> low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop
>>>>> again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have
>>>>> noticed the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux |
>>>>> grep D":
>>>>> 1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00
>>>>> /usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi
>>>>>
>>>>> (Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much
>>>>> as the above.
>>>>>
>>>>> A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening
>>>>> has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from
>>>>> a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during
>>>>> the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact
>>>>> until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and
>>>>> rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion
>>>>> when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy,
>>>>>           
>>> but
>>>       
>>>>> not like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> General information about our config:
>>>>> Server:
>>>>> Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
>>>>> Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
>>>>> HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
>>>>> OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
>>>>> Kernel: 2.6.18
>>>>> Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too
>>>>> however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could
>>>>> be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly
>>>>> appriciated as always...
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> What format are your mailboxes in? If they are in mbox format (one file
>>>>         
>>> per
>>>       
>>>> user), when Usermin deletes email it will re-write out the entire mail
>>>> file with the removed emails taken out. As you might expect, this could
>>>>         
>>> cause
>>>       
>>>> substantial disk IO on large mail files..
>>>>
>>>> The solution I used was to switch to Maildir format, in which each email
>>>>         
>>> is stored
>>>       
>>>> in a separate file. Deleting from this format is much quicker..
>>>>
>>>>  - Jamie
>>>>
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Re: [webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be relatedto Usermin...

[<ra...@si...>]

   I have been fighting this problem for some time now, and it always seems 
to be specific users from specific PC's, and I can never personally 
reproduce the problem, but just see the results of it's occurance (though 
I have taken some interesting core files that seem to point to a Perl 
related issue).

   However, as I am also using Dovecot for pop/imap, I changed the access 
to using localhost imap, and the problem seems to have not returned for 
these users.

rf

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> On 6/Oct/2006 21:25 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>> Currently I'm using Sendmail with the mbox format.  What you say does
>> make sense though.  Towards the end of the year I did notice our email
>> traffic increasing so it would be only reasonable that the old way of
>> doing things could cause us issues with incoming mail on the rise.
>>
>> Doing a quick search on google I noticed that doing Maildir shouldn't be
>> a huge problem with some minor mods to promailrc.  However what I don't
>> understand is does that mean new mail goes into
>> /var/spool/mail/username/<messages here> or would it be
>> ~username/mail/inbox/<messages here>?
>
> Typically, the inbox for Maildir format is ~/Maildir .
> You can have mail delivered to this with a line in /etc/procmailrc like
>
> DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
>
>> Lastly, as far as the conversion is usermin cabable of reading two
>> different formats at a time?  I ask because I wonder can I just convert
>> say all the inboxs first, wait to see what it does, and then convert all
>> of their personal folders.  Or do I need to do both sides of the puzzle
>> at the same time?
>
> Yes, it can read both - you can have the inbox in Maildir format, but
> keep other folders in mbox format under users' ~/mail directories.
>
> - Jamie
>
>> We currently are using Dovecot for the Pop3 / Imap side of things and it
>> appears to be really easy to convert to the different setting.
>>
>> Thanks Jaime, bTw.
>> -Jesse
>>
>>
>> Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>> On 6/Oct/2006 12:06 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>>>
>>>> Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have
>>>> been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run
>>>> the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really
>>>> low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop
>>>> again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have
>>>> noticed the following:
>>>>
>>>> When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux |
>>>> grep D":
>>>> 1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00
>>>> /usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi
>>>>
>>>> (Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much
>>>> as the above.
>>>>
>>>> A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening
>>>> has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from
>>>> a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during
>>>> the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact
>>>> until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and
>>>> rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.
>>>>
>>>> I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion
>>>> when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy,
>> but
>>>> not like this.
>>>>
>>>> General information about our config:
>>>> Server:
>>>> Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
>>>> Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
>>>> HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
>>>> OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
>>>> Kernel: 2.6.18
>>>> Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too
>>>> however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could
>>>> be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly
>>>> appriciated as always...
>>>>
>>>
>>> What format are your mailboxes in? If they are in mbox format (one file
>> per
>>> user), when Usermin deletes email it will re-write out the entire mail
>>> file with the removed emails taken out. As you might expect, this could
>> cause
>>> substantial disk IO on large mail files..
>>>
>>> The solution I used was to switch to Maildir format, in which each email
>> is stored
>>> in a separate file. Deleting from this format is much quicker..
>>>
>>>  - Jamie
>>>
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Re: [webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 7/Oct/2006 19:46 Craig White wrote ..
> I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin when
> creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though the
> objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
> automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
> (longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.
> 
> 1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like
> 
>    /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator
> 
> so my auto enter looks like
> 
> apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}
> 
> 2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like
> 
> 
> <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>
> 
> (actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when saved in
> DSA)
> 
> so my auto enter looks like
> 
> <home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>
> 
> so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto entries
> so they process properly in your perl scripts.
> 
> Suggestions?

Is ${USER} a substitution done by the LDAP server, or by Webmin? Normally when you
specific an extra LDAP attribute like ${SOMETHING}, it will be replaced when the user
is saved with some attribute of the new user..

What did you mean by 'escape the auto extries' exactly?

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] auto entering attributes LDAP_Useradmin

[Craig W. <cra...@az...>]

I'm having an issue auto entering attributes in LDAP Useradmin when
creating new users - these auto entries simply aren't created though the
objectclass 'apple-user' is added and other samba attributes get
automatically entered. Also, if I manually add these entries below
(longhand - no ${USER} ), the entries are created.

1 - apple-user-homeDirectory, values typically look like

   /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/administrator

so my auto enter looks like

apple-user-homeDirectory /Network/Servers/srv1.example.com/NetUsers/${USER}

2 - apple-user-homeurl, values typically look like


<home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>administrator</path></home_dir>

(actually, it appears that these values are Base64 encoded when saved in
DSA)

so my auto enter looks like

<home_dir><url>afp://srv1.example.com/NetUsers/</url><path>${USER}</path></home_dir>

so it leaves me wondering if I somehow need to escape these auto entries
so they process properly in your perl scripts.

Suggestions?

Craig

Re: [webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be relatedto Usermin...

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 6/Oct/2006 21:25 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> Currently I'm using Sendmail with the mbox format.  What you say does 
> make sense though.  Towards the end of the year I did notice our email
> traffic increasing so it would be only reasonable that the old way of 
> doing things could cause us issues with incoming mail on the rise.
> 
> Doing a quick search on google I noticed that doing Maildir shouldn't be
> a huge problem with some minor mods to promailrc.  However what I don't
> understand is does that mean new mail goes into 
> /var/spool/mail/username/<messages here> or would it be 
> ~username/mail/inbox/<messages here>?

Typically, the inbox for Maildir format is ~/Maildir .
You can have mail delivered to this with a line in /etc/procmailrc like

DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/

> Lastly, as far as the conversion is usermin cabable of reading two 
> different formats at a time?  I ask because I wonder can I just convert
> say all the inboxs first, wait to see what it does, and then convert all
> of their personal folders.  Or do I need to do both sides of the puzzle
> at the same time?

Yes, it can read both - you can have the inbox in Maildir format, but
keep other folders in mbox format under users' ~/mail directories.

 - Jamie

> We currently are using Dovecot for the Pop3 / Imap side of things and it
> appears to be really easy to convert to the different setting.
> 
> Thanks Jaime, bTw.
> -Jesse
> 
> 
> Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 6/Oct/2006 12:06 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> >   
> >> Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have
> >> been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run
> >> the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really
> >> low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop 
> >> again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have
> >> noticed the following:
> >>
> >> When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux |
> >> grep D":
> >> 1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00 
> >> /usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi
> >>
> >> (Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)
> >>
> >> Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much
> >> as the above.
> >>
> >> A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening
> >> has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from
> >> a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during
> >> the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact
> >> until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and 
> >> rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.
> >>
> >> I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion
> >> when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy,
> but
> >> not like this.
> >>
> >> General information about our config:
> >> Server:
> >> Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
> >> Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
> >> HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
> >> OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
> >> Kernel: 2.6.18
> >> Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too 
> >> however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could
> >> be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly
> >> appriciated as always...
> >>     
> >
> > What format are your mailboxes in? If they are in mbox format (one file
> per
> > user), when Usermin deletes email it will re-write out the entire mail
> > file with the removed emails taken out. As you might expect, this could
> cause
> > substantial disk IO on large mail files..
> >
> > The solution I used was to switch to Maildir format, in which each email
> is stored
> > in a separate file. Deleting from this format is much quicker..
> >
> >  - Jamie
> >
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Re: [webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be related to Usermin...

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

Currently I'm using Sendmail with the mbox format.  What you say does 
make sense though.  Towards the end of the year I did notice our email 
traffic increasing so it would be only reasonable that the old way of 
doing things could cause us issues with incoming mail on the rise.

Doing a quick search on google I noticed that doing Maildir shouldn't be 
a huge problem with some minor mods to promailrc.  However what I don't 
understand is does that mean new mail goes into 
/var/spool/mail/username/<messages here> or would it be 
~username/mail/inbox/<messages here>?

Lastly, as far as the conversion is usermin cabable of reading two 
different formats at a time?  I ask because I wonder can I just convert 
say all the inboxs first, wait to see what it does, and then convert all 
of their personal folders.  Or do I need to do both sides of the puzzle 
at the same time?

We currently are using Dovecot for the Pop3 / Imap side of things and it 
appears to be really easy to convert to the different setting.

Thanks Jaime, bTw.
-Jesse


Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 6/Oct/2006 12:06 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>   
>> Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have 
>> been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run 
>> the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really
>> low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop 
>> again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have
>> noticed the following:
>>
>> When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux | 
>> grep D":
>> 1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00 
>> /usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi
>>
>> (Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)
>>
>> Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much
>> as the above.
>>
>> A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening
>> has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from
>> a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during
>> the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact
>> until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and 
>> rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.
>>
>> I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion 
>> when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy, but
>> not like this.
>>
>> General information about our config:
>> Server:
>> Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
>> Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
>> HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
>> OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
>> Kernel: 2.6.18
>> Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too 
>> however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)
>>
>> Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could
>> be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly 
>> appriciated as always...
>>     
>
> What format are your mailboxes in? If they are in mbox format (one file per
> user), when Usermin deletes email it will re-write out the entire mail
> file with the removed emails taken out. As you might expect, this could cause
> substantial disk IO on large mail files..
>
> The solution I used was to switch to Maildir format, in which each email is stored
> in a separate file. Deleting from this format is much quicker..
>
>  - Jamie
>
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Re: [webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be related to Usermin...

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 6/Oct/2006 12:06 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have 
> been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run 
> the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really
> low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop 
> again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have
> noticed the following:
> 
> When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux | 
> grep D":
> 1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00 
> /usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi
> 
> (Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)
> 
> Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much
> as the above.
> 
> A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening
> has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from
> a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during
> the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact
> until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and 
> rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.
> 
> I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion 
> when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy, but
> not like this.
> 
> General information about our config:
> Server:
> Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
> Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
> HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
> OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
> Kernel: 2.6.18
> Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too 
> however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)
> 
> Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could
> be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly 
> appriciated as always...

What format are your mailboxes in? If they are in mbox format (one file per
user), when Usermin deletes email it will re-write out the entire mail
file with the removed emails taken out. As you might expect, this could cause
substantial disk IO on large mail files..

The solution I used was to switch to Maildir format, in which each email is stored
in a separate file. Deleting from this format is much quicker..

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] High I/O usage issues which may be related to Usermin...

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

Hello once again everyone.  Since the new school year started we have 
been noticing increasingly high I/O usage on our servers.  When I run 
the top command quite often you will see the WA status swing from really 
low up into the 70-80 even 90% range for up to a min and then drop 
again.  I spend a little time trying to track down the problem and have 
noticed the following:

When I/O is really high I always see the following line in "ps aux | 
grep D":
1229     14619  0.8  0.2  37272 16520 ?        D    14:43   0:00 
/usr/local/usermin-1.230/mailbox/delete_mail.cgi

(Note: User ID is normally not the same one when polled)

Sometimes I also see the index.cgi file too, but no where near as much 
as the above.

A coworker in our department had made mention that maybe whats happening 
has something do with the process that usermin uses to remove mail from 
a mailbox when its deleted.  Something about compacting the box during 
the delete instead of doing it like Thunderbird and waiting to compact 
until space can be saved.   I guess case being all the reading and 
rewriting required to removed the dead message from the box.

I don't recall having this problem that bad last year.  On occassion 
when almost everyone was logged in things would get a little screwy, but 
not like this.

General information about our config:
Server:
Processors: Dual Opteron 242's
Ram: 6Gig ECC DDR
HDs: 1.2 TB 3ware Raid Array
OS: Slamd 64 10.2b (Slackware more or less)
Kernel: 2.6.18
Usermin Version: 1.230 (This was happening in the last version too 
however.  I just upgraded two days ago to see if the problem went away)

Unfortunately dealing with I/O problems isn't my speciality so I could 
be barking up the wrong tree here.  Any suggestions would be greatly 
appriciated as always...
-Jesse
Gateway School District
Monroeville, PA

Re: [webmin-l] Feature request

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 6/Oct/2006 02:51 Jeppe Uhd wrote ..
> Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 4/Oct/2006 23:30 Jeppe Uhd wrote ..
> >> In the sendmail module it would be nice to be able to limit what
> >> relay domains a user can edit.
> >> 
> >> Kind regards Jeppe Uhd - NX
> > 
> > That would be a little tricky, as relay domains is just a text field
> > .. 
> > 
> > - Jamie
> 
> I was thinking something like the virtuser view at the same time...

What I plan to do in the next release is add access control to the
Spam Control page, which can also be used to setup relaying..

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] Small feature request: navigation in Users and Groups

[Freddie C. <fca...@sd...>]

On Thu, October 5, 2006 11:18 am, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 4/Oct/2006 15:23 Freddie Cash wrote ..
>> Would it be possible to add the search box (that appears when you
>> configure it to only show X users but you have X+Y users) to the top
>> of the list of users?  That way, you get both the long list of users
>> so you can scroll around and compare account entries, and you can
>> just jump into the details of a single user (without having to use
>> Edit -> Find in the
>> browser, then clicking on the account)?  Get the best of both
>> worlds, kind of thing.
>
> I recommend upgrading to Firefox .. you can just hit / and type in a
> username, and the browser will search for it :-)

I use Firefox and Konqueror exclusively, and have been using the
search features for just this purpose.  :)  Our school admins use a
mixture of IE and Firefox, though, and don't always grasp the "use the
browser search functions" concept.  :)  Having the search box at the
top to narrow the search or to jump directly to a user would help
them.  :)

Like I said, it's just a suggestion/request, so if it doesn't go in, I
won't be upset.  :)

Keep up the good work on Webmin, this thing gets nicer and nicer with
each release.  We use it all over our district.
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Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP        Helpdesk / Network Support Tech.
School District 73                    (250) 377-HELP [377-4357]
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