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Re: [webmin-l] Force Webmin user password change

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Hi Dave,
Right now, the only way to do this is to create a Unix user with the same=
 name as the Webmin user, and configure the Webmin user to use the 'Unix =
authentication' password mode.

Then, install the Authen::PAM perl module, and make sure /etc/pam.d/webmi=
n exists, then restart Webmin. Finally, set the expiration date of the Un=
ix user's password to the current date. When he logs into Webmin, he shou=
ld be prompted to change his password.

Perhaps in future I will add better support for password expiry to Webmin=
's own authentication system, so that PAM doesn't need to be involved.

 - Jamie

-----Original Message-----

From:  Dave Isaacs <dav...@en...>
Subj:  [webmin-l] Force Webmin user password change
Date:  Tue 6 Feb 2007 10:44 am
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To:  'Webmin users list' <web...@li...>

     Force Webmin user password change
    Is there a way to force a Webmin user to undergo a password change?=20
  When I create a new Webmin user, I supply a temporary password. I would=
 like to have the user be forced to do a password change the first time s=
he logs in.
  Thanks=20
  Dave Isaacs=20
  =20

[webmin-l] Force Webmin user password change

[Dave I. <dav...@en...>]

Is there a way to force a Webmin user to undergo a password change?

When I create a new Webmin user, I supply a temporary password.  I would
like to have the user be forced to do a password change the first time she
logs in.

Thanks

Dave Isaacs

Re: [webmin-l] Usermin Issues

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 5/Feb/2007 08:45 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> Hello all once again.  Over the last couple of months I've noticed the
> following issues.  Was wondering if anyone had some ideas on how to work
> around them:
> 1.) Even though I currently have "Session Authentication" enabled and 
> also have enabled "Auto-Logoff" after 30 minutes it doesn't appear to be
> working.  If the users are idle looking at an email for 30 minutes or 
> idle at the main windows for 30 minutes they do timeout like they 
> should.  However, if they are looking at their mailbox they never 
> timeout.  One of my techs believes its because the page is set to auto
> refresh every 120 seconds and that Usermin is interpreting the refresh
> as user interaction.  I would like to find away for this not to happen
> anymore.

Yes, an auto-refresh would be considered regular activity and would
reset the session timeout. Unfortunately there is no way that I can think
of to implement a way around this..

> 2.) I have Usermin setup to send mail via the sendmail executable which
> 98% of time works without incident.  However, a few months ago there was
> a problem where users couldn't write to /dev/null.  Usermin was not able
> to send emails, but reported to the user that it had.  I worked out the
> /dev/null problem and thought this was over with, but found out this 
> morning that we had a milter failing on our server which was telling all
> connecting servers "451 error 4.3.2 Try again later"  Again usermin 
> clients were sending email and not getting any indication that there was
> a problem.  Those mails never left the server and they don't appear to
> be in the queue anymore.  I was thinking about changing it so it 
> actually connects to the server by port and not using the command but I
> don't know if thats a solution to this problem.  Ideas anyone?

I'd suggest using an SMTP connection to localhost to send email if you
can, as SMTP provides more status information than the sendmail command
in the case of a failure..

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Usermin Issues

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

Hello all once again.  Over the last couple of months I've noticed the 
following issues.  Was wondering if anyone had some ideas on how to work 
around them:
1.) Even though I currently have "Session Authentication" enabled and 
also have enabled "Auto-Logoff" after 30 minutes it doesn't appear to be 
working.  If the users are idle looking at an email for 30 minutes or 
idle at the main windows for 30 minutes they do timeout like they 
should.  However, if they are looking at their mailbox they never 
timeout.  One of my techs believes its because the page is set to auto 
refresh every 120 seconds and that Usermin is interpreting the refresh 
as user interaction.  I would like to find away for this not to happen 
anymore.
2.) I have Usermin setup to send mail via the sendmail executable which 
98% of time works without incident.  However, a few months ago there was 
a problem where users couldn't write to /dev/null.  Usermin was not able 
to send emails, but reported to the user that it had.  I worked out the 
/dev/null problem and thought this was over with, but found out this 
morning that we had a milter failing on our server which was telling all 
connecting servers "451 error 4.3.2 Try again later"  Again usermin 
clients were sending email and not getting any indication that there was 
a problem.  Those mails never left the server and they don't appear to 
be in the queue anymore.  I was thinking about changing it so it 
actually connects to the server by port and not using the command but I 
don't know if thats a solution to this problem.  Ideas anyone?

As usual any help or ideas are greatly appreciated a head of time.  
Thanks all.
-Jesse C. Smillie  
Gateway School District
Monroeville, PA

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Simple Blue Theme and Usermin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 17:35 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Yes, it was in the browser title.
> 
> Indeed, I wanted to provide for a "Help me" function, where the messages
> would be sent to our helpdesk.

Ok, I will add a feedback link to the theme in the next Webmin release..

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Cron job intervals

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 17:33 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> >From crontab(5):
> 
> Step  values can be used in conjunction with ranges.  Following a range
> with ``/<number>'' specifies skips of the number's  value  through  the
> range.  For example, ``0-23/2'' can be used in the hours field to specify
> command execution every other hour (the alternative in the V7 standard
> is ``0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22'').  Steps are also permitted after
> an asterisk, so if you want to say ``every two hours'', just  use ``*/2''.
> 
> Maybe I didn't explain it good enough, I hope the above shows what I mean
> :-)

Oh yes, you can do that in Webmin, by selecting every second hour. But you
can't say every third day reliably .. even if you select the 1st, 4th, 7th,
10th, 13th, 16th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 28th and 31st of the month, this won't
really be every 3rd day.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Simple Blue Theme and Usermin

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

Yes, it was in the browser title.

Indeed, I wanted to provide for a "Help me" function, where the messages would be sent to our helpdesk.


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Cron job intervals

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

>From crontab(5):

Step  values can be used in conjunction with ranges.  Following a range with ``/<number>'' specifies skips of the number's  value  through  the range.  For example, ``0-23/2'' can be used in the hours field to specify command execution every other hour (the alternative in the V7 standard  is ``0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22'').  Steps are also permitted after an asterisk, so if you want to say ``every two hours'', just  use ``*/2''.

Maybe I didn't explain it good enough, I hope the above shows what I mean :-)


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Copying virtualmin server template

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

I disagree; maybe I want similar but not identical settings?

When cloning the default, it'd be good if the cloned settings used "this specific..: <string>", where the value is copied from the Default, instead of saying "Default" -- since that would be the main reason for cloning it. 

Just my two cents..


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Simple Blue Theme and Usermin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 17:20 Terry Allen wrote ..
> >I've taken the feedback option out, as I was getting too much email
> >from people trying to contact their hosting company, ISP, mother, etc..
> >
> >Were you using it for feedback to you?
> >
> >  - Jamie
> >
> Hi again,
> 	Rather than disabling the feedback option, what about setting 
> a generic address taken from the hostname of the machine, say 
> ad...@do... when running the setup script for Webmin installs.

What I may do is only display it only if a custom feedback email address
has been defined..

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Simple Blue Theme and Usermin

[Terry A. <hm...@oz...>]

>I've taken the feedback option out, as I was getting too much email
>from people trying to contact their hosting company, ISP, mother, etc..
>
>Were you using it for feedback to you?
>
>  - Jamie
>
Hi again,
	Rather than disabling the feedback option, what about setting 
a generic address taken from the hostname of the machine, say 
ad...@do... when running the setup script for Webmin installs.
-- 

	Bye for now, Terry Allen 
	___________________________________________________________________
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Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Simple Blue Theme and Usermin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 11:02 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Being a bit finicky about the layout/look of things, I cannot seem to get
> Usermin to display things exactly as I want with the Simple Blue Theme.
> 
> I have "Web Control Panel" set as the custom host .. and now I see " on
> Web Control Panel ()" in the browser title when the user has not logged
> on. This is with "Display login and hostname" set to "Instead of browser
> title". If there is no username/active session, the " on " should not be
> included, nor should "()", which I don't know what it is.

You are right .. in that case, it should only be showing the page title.

> Once I login,
> I get "<username> on Web Control Panel ()".. which is a step better.

That's odd ... was this in the browser title?
 
> This option, "Show version, hostname and OS on main menu", I would like
> to have one that doesn't include version or OS.. just the hostname :-)
> 
> Also, how do I activate the feedback when using the SBT? I see it when
> enabling other themes, but for a simple Usermin set-up, the SBT is still
> nice and simple..

I've taken the feedback option out, as I was getting too much email
from people trying to contact their hosting company, ISP, mother, etc..

Were you using it for feedback to you?

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Cron job intervals

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 15:17 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Are there any plans to allow for more complex cron job scheduling, like
> every other day, every three days, every other month, and so on .. ? Or
> is it already there but I could not find it?
> 
> I ended up setting the time and then specify Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday..
> to get sort of what I want.

Unfortunately, the schedules in Webmin are what the Linux cron service
supports. So if Cron cannot do something (like every 3 days), neither
can Webmin..

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Copying virtualmin server template

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 14:04 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Hmm.. but this isn't available (to me), when I'm editing a Default template.

No, it only exists for non-default templates. Cloning the default makes
no sense, as all other templates inherit from the default anyway ..

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] [1.320] Cron job intervals

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

Are there any plans to allow for more complex cron job scheduling, like every other day, every three days, every other month, and so on .. ? Or is it already there but I could not find it?

I ended up setting the time and then specify Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday.. to get sort of what I want.


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Copying virtualmin server template

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

Hmm.. but this isn't available (to me), when I'm editing a Default template.



-joho

Re: [webmin-l] New server and user/webmin

[Doc S. <do...@ma...>]

Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 2/Feb/2007 11:29 Doc Schneider wrote ..
>> Jamie,
>>
>> I just built a new server and was wondering if I can use the old 
>> /etc/webmin and /etc/usermin directories and then install a new version
>> of it with the rpms? A lot of ACL and user logins in there so was 
>> wanting to do this the best way and keep all that info. Is this doable?
> 
> Sure - that will work fine.
> 
>  - Jamie

Worked slick as a whistle Jamie. I usually do a totally fresh install on 
a new server but this one had a lot of users who use both usermin and 
webmin and I sure didn't want to muck it up.

Thanks again for doing all you do!

-- 
-Doc
Lincoln, NE.
http://www.genealogyforyou.com/
http://www.cairnproductions.com/

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] VirtualMin (333)

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 11:40 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Hmm.. VM has set-up the awstats schedule on a daily basis, whereas the
> log rotation is on a weekly basis.. and if I run the awstats generation
> manually for a virtual site, the stats seem to "double up" rather quickly,
> indicating that awstats cannot keep track of where it previously left of,
> thus generating duplicate stats.
> 
> Where did I go wrong?

That is odd - from my understanding, AWstats keeps track of the date it 
has read up to in the log, and won't re-process log entries from after
that date.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Usermin, link to virtual site's statistics

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 12:40 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> How do I display a link in a user's Usermin environment to the site's statistics
> (awstats) page?
> 
> Is there any way I can do it with some sort of automation/macros.. ?

Not currently .. but you could write a tiny module to do this, if you know
some Perl. It would just redirect to the awstats URL in the same domain.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] Copying virtualmin server template

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 12:06 Joaquim Homrighausen wrote ..
> Is there a way to clone/copy a virtualmin server template?

Sure .. there is a Clone button at the bottom of the page when editing
a template.

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] [1.320] Usermin, link to virtual site's statistics

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

How do I display a link in a user's Usermin environment to the site's statistics (awstats) page?

Is there any way I can do it with some sort of automation/macros.. ?


-joho

[webmin-l] [1.320] Copying virtualmin server template

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

Is there a way to clone/copy a virtualmin server template?


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] New server and user/webmin

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 2/Feb/2007 11:29 Doc Schneider wrote ..
> Jamie,
> 
> I just built a new server and was wondering if I can use the old 
> /etc/webmin and /etc/usermin directories and then install a new version
> of it with the rpms? A lot of ACL and user logins in there so was 
> wanting to do this the best way and keep all that info. Is this doable?

Sure - that will work fine.

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] VirtualMin (333)

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

Hmm.. VM has set-up the awstats schedule on a daily basis, whereas the log rotation is on a weekly basis.. and if I run the awstats generation manually for a virtual site, the stats seem to "double up" rather quickly, indicating that awstats cannot keep track of where it previously left of, thus generating duplicate stats.

Where did I go wrong?


-joho

Re: [webmin-l] [1.320] VirtualMin (333)

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

For the record, I tried adding this:

Command to run after making changes to a server: "chown -R $HOME/logs ${USER}.root", but that didn't seem to have any effect.


-joho