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[Tuxpaint-users] Palmetto Open Source Conference (POSSCON), this week in South Carolina

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I'm way over on the west coast, and don't have time to attend
any conferences at the moment, but a few weeks ago I received
a personal invitation to POSSCON.  I'm sorry it took so long
to forward it out to these lists, but here are some details
about it:

  Palmetto Open Source Software Conference (POSSCON)
  http://posscon.org/

  Thu April 15 - Sat April 17
  Columbia, South Carolina

It includes an education track (as well as developer- and
government-oriented ones).

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint-users Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1

[Michael W. <mic...@co...>]

Hi Pere,

you are right, we are using 0.9.20. I used the config tool and this
created the entry with an absolute path.
I was a little confused that I did not see the pictures I have copied
to the folder. I than created and saved a new picture and realized that
TuxPaint created a folder "saved" in the folder that is given in the
config file. I copied the existing pictuers there and everything is
fine now.
I am still wondering why the default is a hidden folder.
Prior to implementing your suggestion I created a link to the default
folder, that of course works, too.

Thanks again for your help.


Regards,

Michael


Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:50:58 +0100
From: Pere Pujal i Carabantes <pe...@fo...>
Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] savedir does not work
To: Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint
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El dg 21 de 03 de 2010 a les 12:01 -0400, en/na Michael Werner va
escriure:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> we are using tuxpaint on a debian system for a short while and learned
> that the pictures are saved to the hidden folder ~/.tuxpaint/saved. I
> onder why this is done? I browsed a little bit and figuered out that
> this can be changed by writing a .tuxpaintrc manually.  

You can also create this file with the tuxpaint-config tool which comes
in its own package in Debian.
Also, the stamps comes in its own package.

>  I created that
> file in the home directory and added those lines:
> fullscreen=native
> savedir=~/pictures
> 
> I than started tuxpaint and it came up in full screen mode, so the
> configuration file was read. However the pictures are still saved in
> the default directory. Any ideas why this happens?   

I guess you have Tuxpaint 0.9.20 (a bit outdated) which is what comes
with Debian stable, if I recall right, it has a bug with the "~" symbol
in the directory path.

You can either write the full path in the .tuxpaintrc file or try to
install tuxpaint 0.9.21 from  testing or try compile and install by
yourself.


> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael
>   

Hope this helps
Pere

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Compatibility

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David,

Last I heard, TuxPaint worked fine on Windows 7 64-bit systems for some
users but not for others, though none of the errors were personally
observed.  I'm CC'ing tuxpaint-users mailing list that should have more
folks that are knowledgeable on this matter.

Mark


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>  Hi Mark,
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> I know you are US based, but I cannot find a UK contact and the guy in
> France was not very helpful;
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> I just want to confirm if Tux Paint is compatible with Windows 7 64 bit?
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] How do I get a variety of stamps for my child

[<mkk...@gm...>]

Nancee,

I'm CC'ing tuxpaint-users group who may be able to provide further
assistance.

Can you tell us what version of TuxPaint and which operating system you're
running?

Mark


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Nancee Kaufman-Gross
<nk...@ve...>wrote:

>  Hi, thank you for this free product.  My son was so exsited that I could
> download it.  Yet it was a bummer for him; when only a few stamps showed up
> to be used.
> I attempted to follow the directions; yet could not find a way to download
> a variety of stamps.
> Please help us.
> Thank you,
> Nancee
>

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] savedir does not work

[Pere P. i C. <pe...@fo...>]

El dg 21 de 03 de 2010 a les 12:01 -0400, en/na Michael Werner va
escriure:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> we are using tuxpaint on a debian system for a short while and learned
> that the pictures are saved to the hidden folder ~/.tuxpaint/saved. I
> onder why this is done? I browsed a little bit and figuered out that
> this can be changed by writing a .tuxpaintrc manually.

You can also create this file with the tuxpaint-config tool which comes
in its own package in Debian.
Also, the stamps comes in its own package.

>  I created that
> file in the home directory and added those lines:
> fullscreen=native
> savedir=~/pictures
> 
> I than started tuxpaint and it came up in full screen mode, so the
> configuration file was read. However the pictures are still saved in
> the default directory. Any ideas why this happens? 

I guess you have Tuxpaint 0.9.20 (a bit outdated) which is what comes
with Debian stable, if I recall right, it has a bug with the "~" symbol
in the directory path.

You can either write the full path in the .tuxpaintrc file or try to
install tuxpaint 0.9.21 from  testing or try compile and install by
yourself.


> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael
> 

Hope this helps
Pere

[Tuxpaint-users] savedir does not work

[Michael W. <mic...@co...>]

Hi everybody,

we are using tuxpaint on a debian system for a short while and learned
that the pictures are saved to the hidden folder ~/.tuxpaint/saved. I
onder why this is done? I browsed a little bit and figuered out that
this can be changed by writing a .tuxpaintrc manually. I created that
file in the home directory and added those lines:
fullscreen=native
savedir=~/pictures

I than started tuxpaint and it came up in full screen mode, so the
configuration file was read. However the pictures are still saved in
the default directory. Any ideas why this happens? 


Regards

Michael

[Tuxpaint-users] [OT] Using Pootle for translation

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Clytie posted this to Tux Paint's translation mailing list
(tuxpaint-i18n), but I thought I'd forward it here (tuxpaint-devel and
tuxpaint-users) as well, to cast a wider net.

If you're interested in, or participating in, translating Tux Paint,
this note is for you!  (And so is the 'tuxpaint-i18n' mailing list!
See: http://www.tuxpaint.org/lists/ )

-bill!

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:50:36 +1030
From: Clytie Siddall <cl...@ri...>
Subject: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Using Pootle for translation
To: tux...@li...
Reply-To: "Tux Paint internationalization and translation discussion."
	<tux...@li...>

G'day everyone :)

I've been the TuxPaint Vietnamese translator for quite a few years now. I started translating it at the Translation Project [1], then it was supported by the Decathlon [2] project.

Even though the Decathlon funding ended some time ago, one of the key benefits of Decathlon was getting TuxPaint (and other projects) onto Pootle.

Pootle [3] is a free-software translation server. All you need to access it is a web browser and a Net connection. You can update your translations from any machine, anywhere. Pootle runs the checks for you, updates the current file, and submits it to the project. It even supplies translation memory! It's a huge help to our translation workflow. You can also choose to translate files offline, and upload them (overwrite or merge) later.

In summary, Pootle is a Good Thing?. Even better, other projects have to run their own Pootle server, but the Decathlon projects are still hosted on the main Pootle [4] so we can go on using it, as long as our project is active there.

All the Pootle admins have asked is that we have a project rep. to liaise between them and the upstream project (TuxPaint). I've volunteered to do that, but if anyone else would like the job, please say.

My job (if you don't want it ;) ) will be to set things up between Pootle and Bill, make sure we always have the latest files, and generally support you in using Pootle.

So, where does that leave us right now? Please have a look at Pootle, register for your language(s), and email me to say you've registered (please include your Pootle username and language(s)). If you have commit access for TuxPaint's repository now, you will also have it on Pootle. I'll set that up with Bill. If you usually email your files in to Bill, I'll commit them for you from Pootle. So please tell me in your email if you have commit access for TuxPaint or not.

Please feel free to read the wiki pages and experiment on Pootle. Once I receive your email, I'll enable your access to TuxPaint, and you can practise inputting suggestions and translations.

Note: the TuxPaint files presently on Pootle have NOT been updated to the current version. We'll do that ASAP. Once done, we'll advise you here, and you can start translating the current files.

You may also be interested in some of the other Decathlon projects on Pootle, or in contributing to the Pootle translation itself. You can get more done in one place.

I look forward to hearing from you. :)

from Clytie 

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team

[1] http://translationproject.org/team/vi.html

[2] http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/decathlon/mainpage?s[]=decathlon

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] new glitch...

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:23:13PM -0800, henry taylor wrote:
>    This week for the first time I'm getting kids coming up to me with the     
>    brushes all gone from the menu.. We close Tux and start a new session and  
>    its fixed.                                                                 
>                                                                               
>    got me. Any Ideas?                                                         

I've seen refresh problems.  Do you know what they were doing previous to
that?

And ACK, I apparently totally messed up refresh recently in CVS.
(e.g., hit New, then hit [Escape] or Back; canvas is covered with the
'new picture' dialog)

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] new glitch...

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

This week for the first time I'm getting kids coming up to me with the brushes all gone from the menu.. We close Tux and start a new session and its fixed.

got me. Any Ideas?



      

[Tuxpaint-users] OSS Usability

[Arif R. <ar...@uw...>]

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

I Use configuration tool - "all users" setting.

Save folder is in the documents folder on the H drive (student)
TUX programs are in my personal folder on the I drive (common)
Intermittent problem and rare which is why I haven't bothered to mention it before

Programs are configured for grade levels, all student in a class are in the same grade, so they all use the same program configuration.

I have not noticed that the problem is specific to any specific version BUT good you asked... actually thinking about it --one obvious characteristic is that the problem is prone to plague a specific PC for a week or three or four. One day it just shows up and hangs around for a few weeks... rebooting does not seem to effect the problem as littler kids tend to reboot the computer instead of exiting the program of clicking one of the other Tux buttons... Kinder can be an adventure. it is intermittant and rare... I can go a couple of months without seeing it... I can have two machines doing it simultaneously. (happened once I think)

No recent changes.

Thanks for looking into it John!

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, John Popplewell <jo...@jo...> wrote:

From: John Popplewell <jo...@jo...>
Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
To: "Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint" <tux...@li...>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 6:28 AM

Hi henry,

I'm still a little vague on exactly what your setup is :-)

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 05:32:48PM -0800, henry taylor wrote:
> > These are all networked machines and I know that problems occur sometimes when a     
> > specific machine fails to hook into the network... tho USUALLY this will also        
> > preclude finding and opening the program which is on located on a networked drive    
> > not on the specific computer.
> 
> Do you know, for certain, where Tux Paint is trying to load/save pictures?
> 
> ABSOLUTELY! 
> 
> I have RED Tux-K-1, GREEN Tux-2-3 and BLUE Tux-4-5 each saves to their
> respective SAVE folder in the My Pictures folder of the student
> partition on the H Drive (which is a reason I cannot save anything
> myself when logged onto the Teacher partition, I haven't yet built my
> own teacher install

Can you be explicit about how you set these save paths and what exactly
the paths you are using are, from the perspective of Tux Paint?

For example, are you using the Tux Paint configuration file or the
command-line supplied to 'tuxpaint.exe' to set the paths? What are these
paths?

Also, is this problem happening every time, or is it intermittent? For
example, does it only occur when more than one student is using RED (if
more than one student *can* use RED, I'm not clear on that either).

Has it ever worked, or has something changed recently?

I might be able to glean this info from previous messages, I'll take a
look, but all in one email would be helpful to get things clear,

Thanks, and good luck,

best regards,
John.


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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

Hi henry,

I'm still a little vague on exactly what your setup is :-)

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 05:32:48PM -0800, henry taylor wrote:
> > These are all networked machines and I know that problems occur sometimes when a     
> > specific machine fails to hook into the network... tho USUALLY this will also        
> > preclude finding and opening the program which is on located on a networked drive    
> > not on the specific computer.
> 
> Do you know, for certain, where Tux Paint is trying to load/save pictures?
> 
> ABSOLUTELY! 
> 
> I have RED Tux-K-1, GREEN Tux-2-3 and BLUE Tux-4-5 each saves to their
> respective SAVE folder in the My Pictures folder of the student
> partition on the H Drive (which is a reason I cannot save anything
> myself when logged onto the Teacher partition, I haven't yet built my
> own teacher install

Can you be explicit about how you set these save paths and what exactly
the paths you are using are, from the perspective of Tux Paint?

For example, are you using the Tux Paint configuration file or the
command-line supplied to 'tuxpaint.exe' to set the paths? What are these
paths?

Also, is this problem happening every time, or is it intermittent? For
example, does it only occur when more than one student is using RED (if
more than one student *can* use RED, I'm not clear on that either).

Has it ever worked, or has something changed recently?

I might be able to glean this info from previous messages, I'll take a
look, but all in one email would be helpful to get things clear,

Thanks, and good luck,

best regards,
John.

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

> These are all networked machines and I know that problems occur sometimes when a     
> specific machine fails to hook into the network... tho USUALLY this will also        
> preclude finding and opening the program which is on located on a networked drive    
> not on the specific computer.

Do you know, for certain, where Tux Paint is trying to load/save pictures?

ABSOLUTELY! 

I have RED Tux-K-1, GREEN Tux-2-3 and BLUE Tux-4-5 each saves to their respective SAVE folder in the My Pictures folder of the student partition on the H Drive (which is a reason I cannot save anything myself when logged onto the Teacher partition, I haven't yet built my own teacher install

The three TUX installs are on the Common I: drive

After each class I migrate the contents of the saved folder manually into a folder with the teachers name
my 4th and 5th graders can access the folder to find their work so as to continue on another day or to open with Paint.exe to access cut and paste and magnifier tools or Irfanview to access Adobe .8bf plugins. 

This quarter 3rd 4th and 5th grades are working on a POP ART/poster design unit and the 5th graders especially are encouraged to develop their own stamps.


      

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 07:53:08AM -0800, henry taylor wrote:
>    During 2nd quarter also I created 3 different 'grade level versions' with  
>    uniquely colored icons by adding and subtracting stamps and starters and   
>    selecting 'appropriate' plugins for each grade set. Figured that might     
>    be worth mentioning.                                                       

FYI - I think that's great, and I love hearing about these kinds of
setups.  Tux Paint is not only designed as a big empty canvas for kids
to paint on, but a big empty "canvas" for teachers to configure in cool ways
that are appropriate for their curriculum :)  Good work!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 07:31:09AM -0800, henry taylor wrote:
> No                                                                                   
>                                                                                      
> when it occurs I get a report about different starter images failure OR an audio     
> device failure message. Its intermittent and I am not sure about any pattern...      

As I discovered, the error that Tux talks about is usually unrelated to the
error that occured.  It seems I mistakenly expected "strerror()" to return
something related to PNG saving when the PNG library throws an error.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to set that, so you get whatever was leftover
(e.g., the unimportant error about a Starter image lacking a background -- something
you'd see if you hit "New" first, and then "Save", which fails -- or the
error about the audio device).


> These are all networked machines and I know that problems occur sometimes when a     
> specific machine fails to hook into the network... tho USUALLY this will also        
> preclude finding and opening the program which is on located on a networked drive    
> not on the specific computer.

Do you know, for certain, where Tux Paint is trying to load/save pictures?


> And I have one machine which which is not connected to the same network but seems to 
> believe that it is connected and successfully saving tho no image is ever found. I'm 
> not worried about that machine tho.

It looks like it can, indeed, fail to save, but still report successful saving.
Which is just awful, in my opinion, and I'm sorry we didn't stress-test these
situations more.

(One problem is that I have a single computer, running Linux.  No access to the
wide variety of setups that people use: Windows/Mac/Linux, fat-client/thin-client,
networked-saved/locally-saved, network-loaded/locally-loaded, etc.)

This is where I'd love to see a real QA (quality assurance) team set up.
Prior to offical releases, we'd have people go through and test every aspect of
the program, to see if any bugs cropped up, or there were any regressions
(bugs that were thought fixed, but weren't actually fixed, or came back due to
another code change).


-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 05:28:31PM -0500, sdc...@ao... wrote:
>    Please un-register me from receipt of Tuxpaint group emails.  Thank you

Just a friendly reminder to folks -- it's a lot easier (and less noisy) if
you unsubscribe yourself, rather than post a request to the list. :)
(Of the ~175 people subscribed, ~174 of them cannot help you.)

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

 
 
* Was the installer run as Administrator?
 
No.
 
This year my access was further limited and getting administrators to find a convenient time has been difficult.
 
At the beginning of the year Aug/Sept I downloaded new version onto a networked drive and installed it there later in the year now I can't even do that if there is a setup.exe file that wakes up the registry safeguards... If all I have to do is unpack a zip to a folder I think I can still install little programs.

>   * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
 
Fresh install

During the second quarter the error had already showed up and had been seen in last year in a prior installation a few times... 
 
During 2nd quarter also I created 3 different 'grade level versions' with uniquely colored icons by adding and subtracting stamps and starters and selecting 'appropriate' plugins for each grade set. Figured that might be worth mentioning.
 



--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:





That brings us back to what you were asking about... it'd be great
of Bruce, Henry, and anyone else who sees this error, can
respond to these ones:


>   * Was the installer run as Administrator?
>   * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
>   * It looks like a permission problem but the error message is odd, to say
>     the least.




      

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

No
 
when it occurs I get a report about different starter images failure OR an audio device failure message. Its intermittent and I am not sure about any pattern...
 
These are all networked machines and I know that problems occur sometimes when a specific machine fails to hook into the network... tho USUALLY this will also preclude finding and opening the program which is on located on a networked drive not on the specific computer. 
 
And I have one machine which which is not connected to the same network but seems to believe that it is connected and successfully saving tho no image is ever found. I'm not worried about that machine tho.
 
 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Caroline Ford <car...@go...> wrote:


From: Caroline Ford <car...@go...>
Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
To: "Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint" <tux...@li...>
Cc: "Discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint" <tux...@li...>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 2:22 PM



Is it always the same error message?

Sent from a mobile device.

On 25 Jan 2010, at 16:01, henry taylor <tor...@ya...> wrote:










I get this from time to time too.
 
I have one workstation where I haven't saved anything all year... weird. Been meaning to ask about it myself.
 

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...> wrote:


From: Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...>
Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
To: tux...@li...
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 6:27 PM





My 4th grade daughter's teacher has the class working on a project using Tux Paint.  We downloaded it today, but, for the life of us, have been unable to get it to save my daughter's project.  When we hit "save," I see what looks like an error message underneath the color palette stating "Couldn't open data/starters/worldmap_japan-back.png."

Just to walk through the problem, when we hit "Save" (the sixth icon down on the right underneath the "Tools" double column on the far left), we then see a message box that says "Replace the picture with your changes?  Yes, replace the old one!  No, save a new file!"  Regardless of the selection we make, we see the error message noted above.  And, after making the selection, we see no saved file anywhere to open.

Also, the Tools double column on the left does not list any "cache" or such place to even retrieve a saved file.  The bottom two tools are "Print" and "Quit."  What are we doing wrong here?  She needs to get something saved to a thumb drive by tomorrow night (it is now Sunday, January 24), and we have been unable to get this done.  Thanks.



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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

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-----Original Message-----
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:22:41AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce.  Some questions for you, via John Popplewell (maintainer of
 the Windows port of Tux Paint).  He had posted these in response to the
 bug report I mentioned
 ( http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2765872&group_id=66938&atid=516295 

Also, John, I just posted a further comment on that bug.
t looks like the error about "worldmap_japan-back.png" is an erroneous
ne.  It's a leftover error from the "New" dialog looking to see
f the Starter image in question (the last one it comes across) has
 background layer.
When Tux Paint fails to save, this error (which was hanging about in
strerror()', I guess?!) gets displayed by Tux.  So it sounds like
 permissions issue.
That brings us back to what you were asking about... it'd be great
f Bruce, Henry, and anyone else who sees this error, can
espond to these ones:

   * Was the installer run as Administrator?
   * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
   * It looks like a permission problem but the error message is odd, to say
     the least.
Thanks, all!
PS - It looks like the error checking in Tux Paint needs a bit of help.
'll add a new Bug Request on SourceForge to cover that one.
-bill!
c'ing Bruce in case he's not subscribed to this list.
c'ing John so he sees this ASAP.
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[grace m. <gra...@ho...>]

will yhuu stop sending me them tuxpaint things please !

> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:40 -0800
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> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
> 
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:22:41AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Bruce.  Some questions for you, via John Popplewell (maintainer of
> > the Windows port of Tux Paint).  He had posted these in response to the
> > bug report I mentioned
> > ( http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2765872&group_id=66938&atid=516295 )
> 
> Also, John, I just posted a further comment on that bug.
> It looks like the error about "worldmap_japan-back.png" is an erroneous
> one.  It's a leftover error from the "New" dialog looking to see
> if the Starter image in question (the last one it comes across) has
> a background layer.
> 
> When Tux Paint fails to save, this error (which was hanging about in
> 'strerror()', I guess?!) gets displayed by Tux.  So it sounds like
> a permissions issue.
> 
> That brings us back to what you were asking about... it'd be great
> of Bruce, Henry, and anyone else who sees this error, can
> respond to these ones:
> 
> 
> >   * Was the installer run as Administrator?
> >   * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
> >   * It looks like a permission problem but the error message is odd, to say
> >     the least.
> 
> Thanks, all!
> 
> PS - It looks like the error checking in Tux Paint needs a bit of help.
> I'll add a new Bug Request on SourceForge to cover that one.
> 
> -bill!
> Cc'ing Bruce in case he's not subscribed to this list.
> Cc'ing John so he sees this ASAP.
> 
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:22:41AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce.  Some questions for you, via John Popplewell (maintainer of
> the Windows port of Tux Paint).  He had posted these in response to the
> bug report I mentioned
> ( http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2765872&group_id=66938&atid=516295 )

Also, John, I just posted a further comment on that bug.
It looks like the error about "worldmap_japan-back.png" is an erroneous
one.  It's a leftover error from the "New" dialog looking to see
if the Starter image in question (the last one it comes across) has
a background layer.

When Tux Paint fails to save, this error (which was hanging about in
'strerror()', I guess?!) gets displayed by Tux.  So it sounds like
a permissions issue.

That brings us back to what you were asking about... it'd be great
of Bruce, Henry, and anyone else who sees this error, can
respond to these ones:


>   * Was the installer run as Administrator?
>   * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
>   * It looks like a permission problem but the error message is odd, to say
>     the least.

Thanks, all!

PS - It looks like the error checking in Tux Paint needs a bit of help.
I'll add a new Bug Request on SourceForge to cover that one.

-bill!
Cc'ing Bruce in case he's not subscribed to this list.
Cc'ing John so he sees this ASAP.

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Hi Bruce.  Some questions for you, via John Popplewell (maintainer of
the Windows port of Tux Paint).  He had posted these in response to the
bug report I mentioned
( http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2765872&group_id=66938&atid=516295 )


  * Was the installer run as Administrator?
  * Was this an upgrade from a previous version of Tux Paint?
  * It looks like a permission problem but the error message is odd, to say
    the least.
  * The version of Tux Paint doesn't seem to be the latest one in at least one
    of the reports.
  * Has Tux Paint Config been used to change the save/data directory?

In the meantime (and sorry if I'm mentioning this too late!), you could
use the "take a screenshot" functionality of your operating system or
a graphics program (GIMP's "File->Create->Screenshot...", for example)
to take a snap of the finished drawing.

Could you also answer a few other questions:

  * Are you using Tux Paint 0.9.21 at the moment?
    (it's the version that's been available for download on the
    Tux Paint website since July 2009)

  * What operating system & version are you using?
    (I'm assuming Windows.  XP?  Vista?)

Thanks & good luck!

-bill!
Cc'ing Bruce, in case he's still not subscribed to 'tuxpaint-users'


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:27:58PM -0800, Bruce E Lithgow wrote:
>    My 4th grade daughter's teacher has the class working on a project using
>    Tux Paint.  We downloaded it today, but, for the life of us, have been
>    unable to get it to save my daughter's project.  When we hit "save," I see
>    what looks like an error message underneath the color palette stating
>    "Couldn't open data/starters/worldmap_japan-back.png."
> 
>    Just to walk through the problem, when we hit "Save" (the sixth icon down
>    on the right underneath the "Tools" double column on the far left), we
>    then see a message box that says "Replace the picture with your changes? 
>    Yes, replace the old one!  No, save a new file!"  Regardless of the
>    selection we make, we see the error message noted above.  And, after
>    making the selection, we see no saved file anywhere to open.
> 
>    Also, the Tools double column on the left does not list any "cache" or
>    such place to even retrieve a saved file.  The bottom two tools are
>    "Print" and "Quit."  What are we doing wrong here?  She needs to get
>    something saved to a thumb drive by tomorrow night (it is now Sunday,
>    January 24), and we have been unable to get this done.  Thanks.

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

Is it always the same error message?

Sent from a mobile device.

On 25 Jan 2010, at 16:01, henry taylor <tor...@ya...> wrote:

>
> I get this from time to time too.
>
> I have one workstation where I haven't saved anything all year...  
> weird. Been meaning to ask about it myself.
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/24/10, Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...> wrote:
>
> From: Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...>
> Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
> To: tux...@li...
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 6:27 PM
>
> My 4th grade daughter's teacher has the class working on a project  
> using Tux Paint.  We downloaded it today, but, for the life of us,  
> have been unable to get it to save my daughter's project.  When we  
> hit "save," I see what looks like an error message underneath the  
> color palette stating "Couldn't open data/starters/worldmap_japan- 
> back.png."
>
> Just to walk through the problem, when we hit "Save" (the sixth icon  
> down on the right underneath the "Tools" double column on the far  
> left), we then see a message box that says "Replace the picture with  
> your changes?  Yes, replace the old one!  No, save a new file!"   
> Regardless of the selection we make, we see the error message noted  
> above.  And, after making the selection, we see no saved file  
> anywhere to open.
>
> Also, the Tools double column on the left does not list any "cache"  
> or such place to even retrieve a saved file.  The bottom two tools  
> are "Print" and "Quit."  What are we doing wrong here?  She needs to  
> get something saved to a thumb drive by tomorrow night (it is now  
> Sunday, January 24), and we have been unable to get this done.   
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Hi Bruce - you posted this from a non-subscribed address, so it got
held for moderation by the mailing list software.  I approved the post,
but if you're not actually subscribed, you won't see people's responses
unless they specifically Cc you (as I have done here).

(See: http://www.tuxpaint.org/lists/ for a link to subscribe.)


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:27:58PM -0800, Bruce E Lithgow wrote:
>    My 4th grade daughter's teacher has the class working on a project using
>    Tux Paint.  We downloaded it today, but, for the life of us, have been
>    unable to get it to save my daughter's project.  When we hit "save," I see
>    what looks like an error message underneath the color palette stating
>    "Couldn't open data/starters/worldmap_japan-back.png."

I've seen this reported twice.  Once via a bug report at SourceForge.net:

  http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2765872&group_id=66938&atid=516295

and once via email (which I pasted as a comment into that bug report;
the comment is dated: 2009-08-04 16:01)

I also see that henry taylor replied to your post, and said he's
noticed the same thing at times.  The report was for 0.9.20, but Bruce, it
sounds like you just downloaded Tux Paint, so you probably have 0.9.21.

Bruce & Henry - please try running Tux Paint (in windowed mode, so you can
easily do other tasks) and see if you can generate that error.
When it happens, go into your C:\Program Files\TuxPaint\ folder and
look for files named "stderr.txt" and/or "stdout.txt".  If they're there,
open them (e.g., in Notepad) and cut-n-paste their contents in an email
(just reply to this mailing list message).

Also, can you make sure you've got the error message exactly right?
(In the SourceForge.net bug, the original bug report was
"Couldn't open...", but the email I pasted was "Couldn't save...".
Looking in the source-code, I see a few "Couldn't save..." messages,
but they aren't precisely in the form mentioned in the bug report comment.
I don't see ANY references to "Couldn't open..." messages.)

Feel free to take a screenshot and send it to me (privately) as an
attachment.  Or, attach it to that bug!  (You might need a SourceForge.net
account to do that, I don't remember.)


>    Just to walk through the problem, when we hit "Save" (the sixth icon down
>    on the right underneath the "Tools" double column on the far left), we
>    then see a message box that says "Replace the picture with your changes? 
>    Yes, replace the old one!  No, save a new file!"  Regardless of the
>    selection we make, we see the error message noted above.  And, after
>    making the selection, we see no saved file anywhere to open.

That's bad, I'm very sorry! :(


>    Also, the Tools double column on the left does not list any "cache" or
>    such place to even retrieve a saved file.  The bottom two tools are
>    "Print" and "Quit."  What are we doing wrong here?  She needs to get
>    something saved to a thumb drive by tomorrow night (it is now Sunday,
>    January 24), and we have been unable to get this done.  Thanks.

There's an "Open" button.  However, if you have no saved images yet,
it will immediately pop up a notification.

It looks more-or-less like this:

  http://tuxpaint.org/screenshots/showshot.php3?which=10

(that's from a VERY old version ;) )


Thanks in advance for any further details you can send!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File

[henry t. <tor...@ya...>]

I get this from time to time too.
 
I have one workstation where I haven't saved anything all year... weird. Been meaning to ask about it myself.
 

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...> wrote:


From: Bruce E Lithgow <bli...@sb...>
Subject: [Tuxpaint-users] Problems Saving File
To: tux...@li...
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 6:27 PM





My 4th grade daughter's teacher has the class working on a project using Tux Paint.  We downloaded it today, but, for the life of us, have been unable to get it to save my daughter's project.  When we hit "save," I see what looks like an error message underneath the color palette stating "Couldn't open data/starters/worldmap_japan-back.png."

Just to walk through the problem, when we hit "Save" (the sixth icon down on the right underneath the "Tools" double column on the far left), we then see a message box that says "Replace the picture with your changes?  Yes, replace the old one!  No, save a new file!"  Regardless of the selection we make, we see the error message noted above.  And, after making the selection, we see no saved file anywhere to open.

Also, the Tools double column on the left does not list any "cache" or such place to even retrieve a saved file.  The bottom two tools are "Print" and "Quit."  What are we doing wrong here?  She needs to get something saved to a thumb drive by tomorrow night (it is now Sunday, January 24), and we have been unable to get this done.  Thanks.



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