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[Tuxpaint-devel] Saved Documents under Windows

[Gabriel <gga...@in...>]

After I installed 0.9.15-2 I've had a hard time finding the saved images.
Only now that I went to the web page I've learned that they are in a new 
location now (I know, my fault for not reading the documentation) :)

But, what motivates this message is that I find the new location not suitable 
for user created documents.
"C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Application Data\TuxPaint\whatever"
could be used for saving configuration data, but it's not a place intended for 
direct user access and so it's a strange place for TuxPaint user images to be 
saved.

I think the best place for saving user images would be:
C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\My Documents\TuxPaint\
or something like that, since it's easily accessible for users to backup the 
images, do mainteinance, etc.

Well, just my opinion...
Thanks for listening.  :)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [SDL] Bug: Problems with WinXP tablet PC cursor in fullscreen

[Gabriel <gga...@in...>]

I'm having problems with spanish accented characters in Tux Paint Text tool in 
0.9.15-2 under Windows.
Accenter characters simply don't appear.

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [SDL] Bug: Problems with WinXP tablet PC cursor in fullscreen

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 07:14:22PM -0500, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> 
> >  I have a tablet PC running windows XP tablet edition
> >  and everything works fine in windowed model. In
> >  fullscreen mode I can use the mouse pad to draw, but
> >  when I touch the screen with the stylus the cursor
> >  moves around erraticly, going from one side of the
> >  screen to the other very quickly.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> 
> Did this build use DirectX or WinDib? If it was DirectX, it's probably 
> worth seeing if Windib fixes it (and we'll add it to the list of 
> interesting things that are now broken in our directinput code...).

DirectX.  Having people switch to WinDib[*] seems to be fixing it.

[*] As per these instructions:
    http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/docs/windib/

Thx!

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [SDL] Bug: Problems with WinXP tablet PC cursor in fullscreen

[Ryan C. G. <ic...@ic...>]

>   I have a tablet PC running windows XP tablet edition
>   and everything works fine in windowed model. In
>   fullscreen mode I can use the mouse pad to draw, but
>   when I touch the screen with the stylus the cursor
>   moves around erraticly, going from one side of the
>   screen to the other very quickly.
> 
> Any ideas?

Did this build use DirectX or WinDib? If it was DirectX, it's probably 
worth seeing if Windib fixes it (and we'll add it to the list of 
interesting things that are now broken in our directinput code...).

--ryan.

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] AWE Early Literacy Station

[Luis M. <mon...@co...>]

Interesting quote from Boys & Girls Club Director - 
http://www.awe-libraries.com/images/quote_law.gif

If he's willing to pay 3 thousand bucks per windows PC, imagine the size 
of k12ltsp lab he could build. Spend some money on an ISP instead and 
give kids filtered internet access.

Another one of the 21 pre-installed apps is wordpad. I think abiword or 
openoffice2 could replace that one.

The software list does give a bunch of ideas if someone wanted to start 
another educational SDL project :)

Luis


Bill Kendrick wrote:

>FYI, I saw the following product reviewed in the latest double-issue of
>the recently-re-launched "Children's Technology Review" magazine:
>
>  Early Literacy Station (ELS)
>  http://www.awe-libraries.com/els.asp
>
>The review mentioned it includes Kidspiration, Krazy Artroom and
>Microsoft Paint as its 'creativity packages.'  I've heard about Kidspiration
>elsewhere, and believe it's not too similar to Tux Paint.  I've never heard
>of Krazy Artroom.  It's the Microsoft Paint that jumped out to me. :^)
>
>So, I've emailed them to let them know about Tux Paint, and encouraged them
>to include it in their product. :^)
>
>PS - Happy New Year!
>
>  
>

[Tuxpaint-devel] AWE Early Literacy Station

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

FYI, I saw the following product reviewed in the latest double-issue of
the recently-re-launched "Children's Technology Review" magazine:

  Early Literacy Station (ELS)
  http://www.awe-libraries.com/els.asp

The review mentioned it includes Kidspiration, Krazy Artroom and
Microsoft Paint as its 'creativity packages.'  I've heard about Kidspiration
elsewhere, and believe it's not too similar to Tux Paint.  I've never heard
of Krazy Artroom.  It's the Microsoft Paint that jumped out to me. :^)

So, I've emailed them to let them know about Tux Paint, and encouraged them
to include it in their product. :^)

PS - Happy New Year!

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] SDL_Pango

[Mark K. K. <tux...@cb...>]

How disturbing that Korean comes up blank... =P

-Mark


On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote:

>
> FYI, thanks to someone's note in one of the bugs at SourceForge,
> I've discovered "SDL_Pango," an SDL front-end to GNOME 2.x's Pango text
> rendering engine:
>
>   http://sdlpango.sourceforge.net/
>
>
> It is NOT currently packaged for Debian Unstable ('sid'), and seems to
> be a relatively unknown project, based on how few SF.net file
> downloads there have been.  So, I've compiled it from source and installed
> it on my system at home.  Here's a screenshot of the test app that's
> included:
>
>   http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/sdl_pango.png
>
> Eventually we'll need to use this to handle some more complicated
> scripts, such as Arabic, I think.
>
> I don't think this helps the problem we have with non-ASCII entry into the
> "Text" tool in Tux Paint, though.  Any ideas for that?
>
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[Tuxpaint-devel] SDL_Pango

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

FYI, thanks to someone's note in one of the bugs at SourceForge,
I've discovered "SDL_Pango," an SDL front-end to GNOME 2.x's Pango text
rendering engine:

  http://sdlpango.sourceforge.net/


It is NOT currently packaged for Debian Unstable ('sid'), and seems to
be a relatively unknown project, based on how few SF.net file
downloads there have been.  So, I've compiled it from source and installed
it on my system at home.  Here's a screenshot of the test app that's
included:

  http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/sdl_pango.png

Eventually we'll need to use this to handle some more complicated
scripts, such as Arabic, I think.

I don't think this helps the problem we have with non-ASCII entry into the
"Text" tool in Tux Paint, though.  Any ideas for that?

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint apparently in "Micro Hebdo" in France

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I've seen numerous people mention that they heard about Tux Paint in
"Micro Hebdo" magazine [*] in France.  Anyone got a copy? :^)

-bill!
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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint Known Issues page created

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I've listed the known issues (and any solutions) for Tux Paint 0.9.15
on the website:

  http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/docs/known_issues/

Thanks for everyone's help finding these and figuring out the solutions
we have so far, and thanks in advance to those of you working to fix the
remaining ones. :^)  (*cough* 10.2.8 support ;^) *cough*)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Debian bug# 343231: seg fault in SDL_DisplayFormatAlpha (tuxpaint 0.9.14)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:16:19AM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> This one is beyond me.  I took a quick look at ldd & a backtrace and
> couldn't find anything amiss.  Ideas?

Is he running with default options? :^/

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-devel] Debian bug# 343231: seg fault in SDL_DisplayFormatAlpha (tuxpaint 0.9.14)

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

This one is beyond me.  I took a quick look at ldd & a backtrace and
couldn't find anything amiss.  Ideas?

The backtrace provided by Boris (he forgot to CC the bug report):

(gdb) bt
#0  0xb7f50bc6 in SDL_DisplayFormatAlpha () from /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
#1  0x0805eb17 in ?? ()
#2  0x00000000 in ?? ()


http://bugs.debian.org/343231

Ben

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 06:33:08AM -0700, Calvin Arndt wrote:
[Martin wrote]
> > I did try to support OS X 10.2.x, but encountered odd compile
> > errors with the OS X 10.2.8 SDK - perhaps someone else might want
> > to give this a try? (The latest XCode project files are in CVS).
> 
> I get a build together bill.... Won't be today tho...

Awesome, thanks!

-bill!

RE: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Calvin A. <ca...@ma...>]

> The Mac build of Tux Paint is compiled against the OS X 10.3.9 SDK,  
> meaning that OS X versions prior to 10.3.x are not supported.  I did  
> try to support OS X 10.2.x, but encountered odd compile errors with  
> the OS X 10.2.8 SDK - perhaps someone else might want to give this a  
> try? (The latest XCode project files are in CVS).
> 
> Martin
> 

I get a build together bill.... Won't be today tho...

Cal...

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

On 12-Dec-05, at 6:13 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> Well, I wouldn't call one school a "huge demand", but I think it's
> worth the trouble.  (Esp. for the karma points we'd get for fixing the
> problem relatively quickly ;^) )

I'll see what I can do, karma or no karma :-)

> Would it be unreasonable for us (you, me, whoever) to create two  
> versions?
> One for OS X 10.2.8 thru 10.4.? for older Macs, and one for 10.4.?  
> and up,
> supporting universal?

For sure, sounds reasonable.

> Honestly, I'm also still interested in an OS 9 version of Tux Paint
> (should be possible! SDL works there! we might need to disable some
> features, though).  Again, since there are still schools (and no  
> doubt homes)
> out there using the thing.

Admittedly, it would be cool to make a Tux Paint for OS 9  
announcement!  If I'm feeling really bored one evening I might just  
reinstall OS 9 and the MPW compiler tools on my old G3 Mac - but  
currently, job hunting is taking priority.  :-)

Martin

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 05:13:22PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> Tux Paint might still compile with the OS X 10.2.8 SDK with gcc 3.1  
> (that's the combo I used with Tux Paint 0.9.14).  Currently I don't  
> have gcc 3.1 on my system, but I can reinstall it and try another  
> compile if there is still demand for Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8.

Well, I wouldn't call one school a "huge demand", but I think it's
worth the trouble.  (Esp. for the karma points we'd get for fixing the
problem relatively quickly ;^) )


> On a related note, with Intel Macs coming out soon, I'll eventually  
> have to look at preparing a universal binary (runs natively on both  
> PPC and Intel Macs).  Of course, this will have to wait till the SDL  
> libraries are released with universal binary support.  At that point,  
> Tux Paint support will definitely have to move to OS X 10.3.9 and  
> later, as universal binaries won't run on any earlier system (they  
> need to be compiled with gcc 4).

Would it be unreasonable for us (you, me, whoever) to create two versions?
One for OS X 10.2.8 thru 10.4.? for older Macs, and one for 10.4.? and up,
supporting universal?

Honestly, I'm also still interested in an OS 9 version of Tux Paint
(should be possible! SDL works there! we might need to disable some
features, though).  Again, since there are still schools (and no doubt homes)
out there using the thing.

Under Windows, we seem to support Win98 (if not Win95) and up.
(Just no Win3.1 or MSDOS, that I know of... :^) )

For Linux, we support RPMs as far back as Red Hat 6.2, and previously
we backported to Debian Stable.

The more users we can support, the merrier they'll be! ;)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

You're right, it was my slip.  I was hoping Tux Paint would run on OS  
X 10.2.8, because I used gcc 3.3 (as opposed to gcc 4, which only  
works on OS X 10.3.9 or later) and compiled/linked against the OS X  
10.3.9 SDK  - but because I wasn't using any Panther (10.3.x)  
specific features, I was still pretty sure that it would still work  
on OS X 10.2.8.  Perhaps too optimistic a guess. :-)

Tux Paint might still compile with the OS X 10.2.8 SDK with gcc 3.1  
(that's the combo I used with Tux Paint 0.9.14).  Currently I don't  
have gcc 3.1 on my system, but I can reinstall it and try another  
compile if there is still demand for Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8.

On a related note, with Intel Macs coming out soon, I'll eventually  
have to look at preparing a universal binary (runs natively on both  
PPC and Intel Macs).  Of course, this will have to wait till the SDL  
libraries are released with universal binary support.  At that point,  
Tux Paint support will definitely have to move to OS X 10.3.9 and  
later, as universal binaries won't run on any earlier system (they  
need to be compiled with gcc 4).

Martin


On 12-Dec-05, at 3:51 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:05:53PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
>> The Mac build of Tux Paint is compiled against the OS X 10.3.9 SDK,
>> meaning that OS X versions prior to 10.3.x are not supported.  I did
>> try to support OS X 10.2.x, but encountered odd compile errors with
>> the OS X 10.2.8 SDK - perhaps someone else might want to give this a
>> try? (The latest XCode project files are in CVS).
>
> Oh!  I coulda sworn someone (you?) said 0.9.15 would work on 10.2.8.
> I must've imagined it, sorry!
>
> I'll let them know the bad (for the moment) news.
>
> -bill!
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:05:53PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> The Mac build of Tux Paint is compiled against the OS X 10.3.9 SDK,  
> meaning that OS X versions prior to 10.3.x are not supported.  I did  
> try to support OS X 10.2.x, but encountered odd compile errors with  
> the OS X 10.2.8 SDK - perhaps someone else might want to give this a  
> try? (The latest XCode project files are in CVS).

Oh!  I coulda sworn someone (you?) said 0.9.15 would work on 10.2.8.
I must've imagined it, sorry!

I'll let them know the bad (for the moment) news.

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

The Mac build of Tux Paint is compiled against the OS X 10.3.9 SDK,  
meaning that OS X versions prior to 10.3.x are not supported.  I did  
try to support OS X 10.2.x, but encountered odd compile errors with  
the OS X 10.2.8 SDK - perhaps someone else might want to give this a  
try? (The latest XCode project files are in CVS).

Martin


On 12-Dec-05, at 2:16 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

>
> I just received this report:
>
>   "Hi - I am trying to install Tux Paint on e and iMacs running
>   10.2.8.  It seems to install but when I click the startup icon (Tux)
>   it places a small icon in the dock and then it shrinks and  
> disappears
>   from the tray.  Seems to work just fine on OX 10.3.  Any help?   
> Thanks"
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!
>
>
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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint on OS X 10.2.8 - can't launch?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I just received this report:

  "Hi - I am trying to install Tux Paint on e and iMacs running
  10.2.8.  It seems to install but when I click the startup icon (Tux)
  it places a small icon in the dock and then it shrinks and disappears
  from the tray.  Seems to work just fine on OX 10.3.  Any help?  Thanks"

Any ideas?
Thanks!


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[Tuxpaint-devel] windib fixed sync problem

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Got a report, regarding Tux Paint going 'haywire' at 800x600 mode fullscreen:

  "I installed DirectX 9.0c in case that helped, but it didn't.  So I followed
  the Windib instructions and it now works perfectly."

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Page describing how to set SDL video to "windib"

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:14:29PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> Oh cool.  That makes things simpler.  Why not just turn on Windib by
> default, then?  It's not like Tuxpaint requires DirectX features, and it
> sounds like Windib is more stable, right?

Sounds like! :)


> Or is there a drawback to using Windib all the time?

No idea!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Page describing how to set SDL video to "windib"

[Mark K. K. <tux...@cb...>]

Oh cool.  That makes things simpler.  Why not just turn on Windib by
default, then?  It's not like Tuxpaint requires DirectX features, and it
sounds like Windib is more stable, right?

Or is there a drawback to using Windib all the time?

-Mark


On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:27:55PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> > Hmm...
> >
> > Maybe the program can check for Win95/98/ME and enable Windib (using
> > setenv) before calling SDL_Init()...?  Just an idea.  Anyone with a
> > DirectX problem wanna give it a shot at this?
>
> Well, DirectX problems are ALSO occuring on Windows2000 and WindowsXP.
> (Or are you saying it's simpler for us to _assume_ windib, than it is for
> Win95/98/ME users to change the env. var.?)
>
> -bill!
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Page describing how to set SDL video to "windib"

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:27:55PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> Hmm...
> 
> Maybe the program can check for Win95/98/ME and enable Windib (using
> setenv) before calling SDL_Init()...?  Just an idea.  Anyone with a
> DirectX problem wanna give it a shot at this?
> 
DirectX problems aren't restricted to Win9x/ME. The recent issue was a
bug in the MinGW runtime library that only manifested on some Win98
machines(!). 

It might be worth disabling the DirectX back-end by default on *all*
Windows platforms, it doesn't offer Tux Paint anything it needs. It
could even be dropped from the version of SDL that we ship.

Perhaps a command-line option to set the driver would make diagnoses
easier?

I'm considering making a test version of SDL that uses the later
DirectX-7 interface which might actually work properly with modern
drivers (I've had trouble myself with flaky DirectX-6 backwards
compatibility and the latest drivers for 3D).

Unfortunately, all the systems I have access to work fine with the
SDL DirectX driver :-(

cheers,
John.

> -Mark
> 
> 
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> >
> > I've created a web page that describes how to change SDL to use the
> > "windib" driver, instead of DirectX.
> >
> > Please lemme know if it looks ok, and if there are different instructions
> > for Win95, WinME, etc., send 'em my way!
> >
> >   http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/docs/windib/
> >
> > Thx!
> >
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Page describing how to set SDL video to "windib"

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:27:55PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> Hmm...
> 
> Maybe the program can check for Win95/98/ME and enable Windib (using
> setenv) before calling SDL_Init()...?  Just an idea.  Anyone with a
> DirectX problem wanna give it a shot at this?

Well, DirectX problems are ALSO occuring on Windows2000 and WindowsXP.
(Or are you saying it's simpler for us to _assume_ windib, than it is for
Win95/98/ME users to change the env. var.?)

-bill!