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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2003-08-12 14:11:38
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M. J. Blom, on 2003-08-12, wrote: > Now, shouldn't the "Hash: SHA1" portion go all the way and shouldn't > I see the clearsign signature instead of gpg-output? You're not seeing the signature because your Pine display filter is verifying the message when you try to view it. If you want to see the raw signature, you need to look at the message by just looking at your mailbox file or in the maildir, or disable your display filter. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: M. J. B. <men...@b1...> - 2003-08-12 09:53:55
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Hello, I'm quite new to pgpenvelope, but I experience a problem with signing, at least, that's what I think. First of all my specs: * Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.18 * gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2 * Perl v5.8.0 * pgpenvelope 2.10.2 Now when I sign a message, I get such an output: | <snip headers> | Subject: Test | | -----pgpenvelope processed message | | This is a test, | | -- | Menno | | -----pgpenvelope information | Hash: SHA1 | Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) | | gpg: Signature made Tue Aug 12 11:47:14 2003 CEST using DSA key ID | 5A07F801 | gpg: Good signature from "Menno Blom <me...@b1...>" | | pgpenvelope_decrypt: message processed at Tue Aug 12 11:47:20 2003 | | -----end pgpenvelope information Now, shouldn't the "Hash: SHA1" portion go all the way and shouldn't I see the clearsign signature instead of gpg-output? I've googled on this like crazy, tried the "PERLIO=stdio" environment setting, but no luck so far. Any clues what might be wrong? Kind Regards, -- Menno |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2003-07-19 17:21:16
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Brandon Applegate, on 2003-07-18, wrote: > Still I get this warning. Anyone else seen this / know how to make it > be quiet ? pgpenvelope seems to work fine otherwise. This is a known bug that I should get around to fixing. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Brandon A. <br...@bu...> - 2003-07-18 17:07:49
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Running 2.10.2, on Redhat9, i386. For the required modules, I got the latest version of all from CPAN (one of the ones included errored out in 'make test', so I opted for the newest). Every time I invoke pgpenvelope, I get this: Duplicate specification "decryption-program|decryptionprogram=s" for option "decryptionprogram" Duplicate specification "encryption-program|encryptionprogram=s" for option "encryptionprogram" I even went as far as to do this to my 'prefs': ... encryption-program = GnuPG decryption-program = GnuPG ... Still I get this warning. Anyone else seen this / know how to make it be quiet ? pgpenvelope seems to work fine otherwise. -- Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273 PGP Key fingerprint: 7407 DC86 AA7B A57F 62D1 A715 3C63 66A1 181E 6996 "SH1-0151. This is the serial number, of our orbital gun." |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2003-06-16 12:05:25
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Claus Atzenbeck, on 2003-06-16, wrote: > (1) Does pgpenvelope support encrypting and decrypting of the whole > message, including attachments? No, pgpenvelope does not support MIME (attachments), largely due to the fact that Pine has poor filter support for MIME. > (2) Procmail does check the PGP signature right after my computer > receives the mail. If I did not import the signature in advance, will I > be able to check it with pine afterwards? Yes. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Claus A. <cla...@fr...> - 2003-06-16 10:03:47
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Hi! I am up to install pgpenvelope. I just have 2 questions: (1) Does pgpenvelope support encrypting and decrypting of the whole message, including attachments? (2) Procmail does check the PGP signature right after my computer receives the mail. If I did not import the signature in advance, will I be able to check it with pine afterwards? Thanks for your answers! Greetings, Claus |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-09-10 16:09:24
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Frank Tobin, on 2002-09-09, wrote: > Should I make the list limited to members only or block Content-Type > text/html? Okay, for right now, I've turned on blocking text/html (which blocks 90% of my spam at the SMTP layer). If spam continues to be a problem I'll close the list to member-posting only. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-09-10 03:21:15
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Should I make the list limited to members only or block Content-Type text/html? -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Habib HAIBI<ha...@fr...> - 2002-01-05 19:39:08
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Meilleurs Voeux pour 2002 : année de mémoire, de mobilisation, d'action, de justice et de sérénité - Appel au soutien moral et financier ======================== M. Habib HAIBI, 7, Aguesseau St. 69007 LYON - France Tél. 00 33 4 72 73 19 08 - Fax 00 33 4 78 61 39 27 Email : ha...@fr... http://haibi.free.fr Je suis qualifié pour exprimer mes voeux pour le Nouvel An à tous les survivants et les familles des victimes des attaques terroristes, au peuple américain, ses dirigeants, ses institutions, son président et tous les combattants de la liberté, loin de leurs foyers, tout autour du monde! Je suis fier de vous dire avec gratitude combien Les USA sont puissants, démocratiques et qualifiés pour défendre la liberté et la démocratie avec humanisme et sérénité. L'ennemi du progrès du genre humain peut encore frapper. La liberté et la démocratie peuvent être encore sous attaques! Personne ne s'imaginait que cela pouvait arriver et c'est arrivé en ce jour pacifique du 11 septembre 2001 Personne ne s'imaginait que cela pouvait arriver en France et c'est arrivé le 26 février 2001 quand les magistrats du parquet de Lyon, par impulsion suicidaire et préméditée, ont eu recours à l'arbitraire pour entraver l'action Publique mise en Mouvement : ils ont requis l'expertise psychiatrique de la Partie Civile par l'action avant de l'entendre dans ses accusations ! Cette dérive obscurantiste a dépassé tout entendement C'est arrivé un jour pacifique pour moi et pour les institutions de la République en France. Le réquisitoire aux fins de l'expertise psychiatrique de la partie civile par l'action, avant de l'entendre dans ses accusations, constitue une atteinte obscurantiste à l'intégrité de la personne de la partie civile et surtout un attentat aux valeurs fondamentales de la société civilisée et une infamie assénée à la République et ses Institutions: - à tous les martyrs de la liberté qui ont payé de leur vie la défense des personnes et des biens et des valeurs fondamentales et universelles de la République. - à tous ceux qui dans l'exercice de leurs fonctions, au nom du devoir de servir, exposeraient leurs vies, sans hésitation, pour la défense de ces mêmes valeurs - à tous les hommes ou femmes de bonne volonté, citoyens anonymes, élevés sur la foi en une société pacifiée par l'avènement de la République, la crainte des lois et l'indéfectibilité de l'Etat, de la Justice et des Institutions en Démocratie. 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From: Philipp H. <pgp...@hu...> - 2001-12-27 23:56:21
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> Philipp Hug, at 00:38 +0100 on 2001-12-28, wrote: > > > Well, I'm looking for a way to start pgpenvelope_encrypt from postfix, that > > it automatically encypts all messages to recipients, where it knows the key > > or leave it unencrypted otherweise. (+if already encrypted leave untouched) > > to achieve this, the following things need to be changed > > -> specify operation (encrypt, sign) on command-line > > -> an option to tell pgpenvelope_encrypt to not encrypt mail-headers and > > check if already encrypted (could be put into another perl-script) > > -> Bug Fix: if a key is not found for a specified mail-adress, disable > > encryption (gpg starts to ask questions otherwise) > > > does this make sense to you? > > should I try to add this functionality to pgpenvelope_encrypt or am I the > > only who wants this feature? > > The specification you talk about really have little in common with > pgpenvelope_encrypt. In fact, there is really nothing in > pgpenvelope_encrypt that would be reusable, I think, for the purposes you > have in mind. > The only thing it has in common is probably the automatic search for recpient keys. But you're probably right, that it's easier to just write another perl script. Philipp |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-12-27 23:53:23
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Yasholomew Yashinski, at 18:49 -0500 on 2001-12-27, wrote: > From http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgpenvelope/ : pgpenvelope is an > interface between Pine and the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG). Eh, well, it can actually be used outside of Pine too. Obviously Phillip realizes that it can be used outside of Pine. pgpenvelope is quite generic, and nothing quite ties it to Pine; it just reads some stuff on stdin, asks questions on the tty (when sending), and prints output to stdout. You could use it as a command-line application outside of Pine if you wanted to without a problem. I just *market* it as useful for Pine; it's a fair terminal-oriented front-end :) -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Philipp H. <ph...@hu...> - 2001-12-27 23:52:44
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I know that. I just thought I could misuse it. Because the procmail-filter does already the receiving part. Philipp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yasholomew Yashinski" <ya...@ma...> To: <pgp...@li...> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: Re: command-line parameters for pgpenvelope_enrypt > > > On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Philipp Hug wrote: > > > Well, I'm looking for a way to start pgpenvelope_encrypt from postfix, that > > From http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgpenvelope/ : > pgpenvelope is an interface between Pine and the GNU Privacy Guard > (GnuPG). > > Cheers, > > -- > Yashy > > > > |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-12-27 23:50:34
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Philipp Hug, at 00:38 +0100 on 2001-12-28, wrote: > Well, I'm looking for a way to start pgpenvelope_encrypt from postfix, that > it automatically encypts all messages to recipients, where it knows the key > or leave it unencrypted otherweise. (+if already encrypted leave untouched) > to achieve this, the following things need to be changed > -> specify operation (encrypt, sign) on command-line > -> an option to tell pgpenvelope_encrypt to not encrypt mail-headers and > check if already encrypted (could be put into another perl-script) > -> Bug Fix: if a key is not found for a specified mail-adress, disable > encryption (gpg starts to ask questions otherwise) > does this make sense to you? > should I try to add this functionality to pgpenvelope_encrypt or am I the > only who wants this feature? The specification you talk about really have little in common with pgpenvelope_encrypt. In fact, there is really nothing in pgpenvelope_encrypt that would be reusable, I think, for the purposes you have in mind. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Yasholomew Y. <ya...@ma...> - 2001-12-27 23:48:56
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Philipp Hug wrote: > Well, I'm looking for a way to start pgpenvelope_encrypt from postfix, that From http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgpenvelope/ : pgpenvelope is an interface between Pine and the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG). Cheers, -- Yashy |
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From: Philipp H. <ph...@hu...> - 2001-12-27 23:38:19
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> > I'm trying to use pgpenvelope as a pgp-gateway, it works fine for > > decryption/verifcation. but there does not seem to be command-line > > parameter to disable the ui in pgpenvelope_encrypt. is that correct? > > It doesn't make sense to have pgpenvelope_encrypt not be UI-centric; the > entire purpose of it is to be friendly UI to GnuPG, reading on stdin, > writing on stdout. Without the UI, you would need to specify things like > recipients, signing/encryting, etc. If you just want to do that, just run > GnuPG plain! pgpenvelope_decrypt with --filter is another story; it is > meant to be entirely automated, and doesn't need user input (except maybe > a passphrsae, but GnuPG is the one that asks for that). > > -- > Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ > Well, I'm looking for a way to start pgpenvelope_encrypt from postfix, that it automatically encypts all messages to recipients, where it knows the key or leave it unencrypted otherweise. (+if already encrypted leave untouched) to achieve this, the following things need to be changed -> specify operation (encrypt, sign) on command-line -> an option to tell pgpenvelope_encrypt to not encrypt mail-headers and check if already encrypted (could be put into another perl-script) -> Bug Fix: if a key is not found for a specified mail-adress, disable encryption (gpg starts to ask questions otherwise) does this make sense to you? should I try to add this functionality to pgpenvelope_encrypt or am I the only who wants this feature? Philipp Hug |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-12-27 22:32:48
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Philipp Hug, at 22:39 +0100 on 2001-12-27, wrote: > I'm trying to use pgpenvelope as a pgp-gateway, it works fine for > decryption/verifcation. but there does not seem to be command-line > parameter to disable the ui in pgpenvelope_encrypt. is that correct? It doesn't make sense to have pgpenvelope_encrypt not be UI-centric; the entire purpose of it is to be friendly UI to GnuPG, reading on stdin, writing on stdout. Without the UI, you would need to specify things like recipients, signing/encryting, etc. If you just want to do that, just run GnuPG plain! pgpenvelope_decrypt with --filter is another story; it is meant to be entirely automated, and doesn't need user input (except maybe a passphrsae, but GnuPG is the one that asks for that). -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Philipp H. <pgp...@hu...> - 2001-12-27 21:39:47
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I'm trying to use pgpenvelope as a pgp-gateway, it works fine for decryption/verifcation. but there does not seem to be command-line parameter to disable the ui in pgpenvelope_encrypt. is that correct? Philipp Hug |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-11-13 21:55:36
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ja...@to..., at 22:42 +0100 on 2001-11-13, wrote: Oh, that is sad, but I understand it will require parse whole message and after verfication build new one ... lots of work. Are thinking about implementing that or do you known about an tool which can do that? I don't want to change pine for something which support it. I'm not too sure what you mean by your first statement; the transformation is fairly straightforward, but I'm not aware of any tool that does it, and I don't plan on implementing it myself in the near future. Problem is that for most common tasks (sign only, send unmodified) are command keys diferent, so you have to be always carefull and read it all, maybe it is purpose but I don't like it. It slow me down. This is reason why pgpenvelope is more comfortable to me :) Sounds like a very bad user interface for pgp4pine, having different keys for different options depending on something as small as not having a key for a user. Now I'm using pgp4pine for checking signatures (it is faster [not if I will preprocess messages with procmail, I known], and less talk [it put message only at end of verified message]) and pgpenvelope as sending filter. Thanks for it I personally use the procmail filter part of pgpenvelope to check signatures, so that while inside of Pine, nothing has to be processed. But, from your example, it's obvious you can mix and match :) - -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAjvxltIACgkQVv/RCiYMT6Nk8ACfVmasfX3Qp2rxkWpcVX0FbPRK TQkAn3Pdr3/IepoALbV581dGiO42xI7/ =ENiw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-11-13 21:05:07
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ja...@to..., at 21:27 +0100 on 2001-11-13, wrote:
Hi Frank, while ago I got message which have pgp signature stored in
diferent part of message:
[ Part 2, Application/PGP-SIGNATURE 240bytes. ]
[ Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file. ]
I'm using pgp4pine and it isn't able to handle this, your
pgpenvelope at first look seemed to be able to handle this because
it can work as filter ... but it doesn't -- it leaves message
unmodified :( Did I miss something or this realy isn't supported?
Unfortunately, pgpenvelope nor pgp4pine can handle MIME messages while
inside of Pine very well because of limitations of Pine. Kinda sad,
really, since Pine was one of the first mailers to implement MIME at all,
and now its support for it inside of filters is very poor.
The best place this can be handled is inside of a procmail script that
converts OpenPGP/MIME to cleartext signatures, but I haven't implemented
it.
Anyway I like way how you implemented outgoing messages
signing/ecrypting so I will use this part :)
Thanks :) I'm curious; I've never used pgp4pine; what exactly do you like
about pgpenvelope over pgp4pine?
--
Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-09-25 21:56:25
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Len Sassaman, at 14:25 -0700 on Tue, 25 Sep 2001, wrote: Sure, but that does not eliminate the number of cpunk hops. And also isn't under the user's control. Neither are IP packets :) -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Len S. <ra...@qu...> - 2001-09-25 21:25:17
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Frank Tobin wrote: > No, it doesn't work that way. The user has to create the chain and > nested encryption before sending the message. The remailers don't > have control over the format in which the user creates his message. > > I understand that. However, the intermediaries still can use hops that > the user didn't specify. If the chain is supposed to be Bob->R1->Alice, > there is nothing stopping R1 from making it Bob->R1->R2->R3->Alice. Sure, but that does not eliminate the number of cpunk hops. And also isn't under the user's control. |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2001-09-25 21:13:24
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Len Sassaman, at 14:07 -0700 on Tue, 25 Sep 2001, wrote: Right, Mutt supports it natively, as it supports GnuPG and PGP. A far nicer way to do things than filters IMO. But that's an old issue with Pine vs. Mutt. Umm..patching programs is *not* a clean way to handle single cases where a certain functionality is needed. Well-designed filters are *much* better. Not that Pine has great filters, however... I can't see any reason pine would need to be modified for mixmaster support. You could do it in a filter. The filters are very basic, and I don't think they provide the functionality required. > The author also severely glosses over mixmaster in terms of security > analysis. You know he's the original author of mixmaster, right? All the more reason he should provide a good analysis :) No, it doesn't work that way. The user has to create the chain and nested encryption before sending the message. The remailers don't have control over the format in which the user creates his message. I understand that. However, the intermediaries still can use hops that the user didn't specify. If the chain is supposed to be Bob->R1->Alice, there is nothing stopping R1 from making it Bob->R1->R2->R3->Alice. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Len S. <ra...@qu...> - 2001-09-25 21:07:49
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Frank Tobin wrote: > >From what I've read in order to get mixmaster support into mutt there are > changes to the mutt source. Not exactly a nice way to go about things, > IMO. Right, Mutt supports it natively, as it supports GnuPG and PGP. A far nicer way to do things than filters IMO. But that's an old issue with Pine vs. Mutt. I can't see any reason pine would need to be modified for mixmaster support. You could do it in a filter. > http://www.obscura.com/~loki/remailer/remailer-essay.html is a good > read. > > The attacks described against cypherpunk remailers have good defenses > against them. As long as the remailers are throwing around whitenoise all > the time, the attacks can be heavily minimized. The remailers throw around *type II* dummy traffic. > The author also severely glosses over mixmaster in terms of security > analysis. You know he's the original author of mixmaster, right? Another good place to read up on this is the cypherpunk mailing list archives from around that time. > Also, the attacks against cypherpunk remailers are primarily applicable > against remailer-to-remailer communications, not MUA-to-remailer. I think > that a two-stage process is a good one, cpunk for the MUA-to-remailer for > the first stage, and whatever the cpunk wants to do to get the message to > the next hop is its own business; it could use mixmaster if it wants. No, it doesn't work that way. The user has to create the chain and nested encryption before sending the message. The remailers don't have control over the format in which the user creates his message. |
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