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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-18 20:47:55
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Hi Andrew, maybe it is because of my unperfect english, but I don't understand where is the problem. ISO-8859-X is a standard and Unicode is also a standard. ISO-8859-X use 8-bit encoding and therefore it needs special charset tables for groups of languages (ISO-8859-1 is for Western Languages like English, German, Spain etc., ISO-8859-2 is for Eastern Europe languages like Czech, Slovak, Polish,), and there are other charsets for next language groups (Cyrillic, Hebrew, and many others). Unicode (www.unicode.org) is a 16-bit (or 32-bit) encoding which includes the most of the languages and character sets and it is based on ISO-8859 charsets, which are grouped into one big charset. ISO 10646 (compatible with Unicode 4.0) is a 32-bit encoding, which includes all the charsets on the world, it is the most complex charset. You can read the relations between Unicode and ISO 10646 here: http://www.unicode.org/faq/unicode_iso.html ---------- Windows-1250 is a Microsoft's non-standard modification of ISO-8859-2 used in some European countries. Unfortunately it is very expanded (because of M$'s monopoly) and many people consider it for standard. I don't recommend to use Windows-1250. ----------- You can use ISO-8859-X or Unicode, both of them are standard and are well supported by browsers. Unicode has an advantage of 16-bit encoding, you can use more charsets (Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Cyrillic, Hebrew, Chinese...) together in single webpage. I am not sure if it is necessatry, but theoretically you have this possibility. Robert On Thursday 18 November 2004 12:27, Andrew Latham wrote: > Robert and others.... > > I have found many mentions of issues with Slovak on webdevelopment > many of them revert to the UTF-8 (by the way my new setup will allow > you to revert also!) while the rest are using the windows-1250 char > set. I will allow the manual configuration of language sets so that > UTF can be used but as I am finding most languages are working well > with the ISO system. It is the best of both worlds, I get to stick to > the standards and use the ISO 8859-X for the languages and if a user > wants they can select the UTF-8 for thier system. I am working on the > idea of a central I18N server for the lang sets so that translators > can update a central system and users can download the updated > language set instead of a new version everytime. (for work I still use > osraids v1.1 because it does most every thing I need.) -- Robert Zelnik e-mail: rz...@vs... |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-18 11:27:43
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Robert and others.... I have found many mentions of issues with Slovak on webdevelopment many of them revert to the UTF-8 (by the way my new setup will allow you to revert also!) while the rest are using the windows-1250 char set. I will allow the manual configuration of language sets so that UTF can be used but as I am finding most languages are working well with the ISO system. It is the best of both worlds, I get to stick to the standards and use the ISO 8859-X for the languages and if a user wants they can select the UTF-8 for thier system. I am working on the idea of a central I18N server for the lang sets so that translators can update a central system and users can download the updated language set instead of a new version everytime. (for work I still use osraids v1.1 because it does most every thing I need.) I need to get another development version out and a release, its been a month or so... I want to use the CVS system but I need a kick in the butt. I would like any submissions for the following ideas for a forward looking todo list: 1. Customer site setup report. 2. Customer address book printout 3. Consultant address book printout 4. Insert reporting idea here.........Reports are important 5. Accounting system - - should I do a cash system also or just stick to double ledger. Most "consultants" I know run a cash balance sheet. I however have a double ledger system started. later......... On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:43:05 +0100, Robert Zeln=EDk <rz...@vs...> wro= te: > the picture that you sent me seems like if the web has not a meta charset > definition, like if it shows text in utf-8, but the browser recognizes it= as > a commont 8bit (ascii, iso-8859-*) encoded page. >=20 > Look at the encoding info in your browser, you will see the recognized > encoding. >=20 > You can try to go to sk.wikipedia.org, it is in utf-8: > http://sk.wikipedia.org/ >=20 > Or this one: > http://uniletim.sourceforge.net/ > if you swith the pop-up switcher in the top right corner into slovak lang= ugae, > you can see the webpage in iso-8859-2 encoding. >=20 > Robert >=20 > On Wednesday 17 November 2004 05:31, Andrew Latham wrote: > > I am working on the translations for a bit. I have most of yours in. > > Do you know of any good Slovak websites to look at, I am trying to > > match up the work and have purchased some dictionarys for some > > languages. > > > > later. >=20 > --=20 > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... >=20 --=20 Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have=20 bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-14 01:49:35
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Here is a webpage that is not declaring the character set. This would be horrible for a new user. Hint its not UTF-8 or ISO 8859-5..... http://pilot.org.ua/etcnet/etcnet-osdn.html No pressure on me though, no pressure at all..... hehehe I about have every thing back up an working, the rewrite of the config is taking longer than I banked on because I am writing classes for the form elements. I also got my study guide for the ZEND PHP cert, I am learning some things that I did not know.... -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-14 01:01:55
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I just want everyone to help in whatever way they can. Just trying to draw out the logic will show you some of the pitfalls. I am working Audit at a holiday Inn express tonight! 4 hours of work and 4 hours of webbrowsing. I could narrow it down to 2 hours of work If I wrote the software but thats just me....... Try to include items to the osraids mailing list on the sourceforge site. So that eveyone can get an idea of what is going on. On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 13:00:49 -0800 (PST), Alfonso Perez <bui...@ya...> wrote: > > I'm not a developer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night (lol). > I try and help any way I can, just feel free to ask. > Thanks > > > Andrew Latham <la...@gm...> wrote: > > > Ok will look at it.... I need help here guys..... > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Alfonso Perez > wrote: > > Dont give them a drop down. Give them a login prompt. > > If the person accessing the system doent know his/her > > account they have no right trying to add a work > > request. Have that account referrence only > > information for the company to which is assigned. In > > fact it could be the same as the WR screen. You can > > use the client name as the account and that would make > > restricting it easier. > > As far as the consultant is conserned one should be > > tied to the client as his primary contact. This would > > allow for a secretary to reassign the job if needed > > be. > > > > > > > > --- Andrew Latham wrote: > > > > > Need help. If you would like to layout a page and an > > > show me how it > > > should work I would love to. The issue is that > > > customers should not > > > see other customers and allowing them to log in with > > > a dropdown of > > > customer IDs is the prefered method. > > > > > > Ideas on this topic are welcome. Any submission on > > > this topic would > > > probably be accepted as there is no current code. > > > Hint. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > Andrew Latham > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:58 -0800 (PST), Alfonso > > > Perez > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > My use of OSRAIDS is so so, but if Customer > > > Login and Customer Request > > > > were available then life would be oh so much > > > nicer. Any idea as to when > > > > these will be available? > > > > > > > > Thanks keep up the good work > > > > > > > > Alfonso Perez > > > > NetServices de Puerto Rico inc. > > > > 787-605-7307 > > > > ap...@my... > > > > ap...@ne... > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > > www.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Latham > > > > > > http://www.lathama.com > > > la...@gm... > > > la...@ya... > > > la...@la... > > > If any of the above are not working we have > > > bigger problems than my email. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > www.yahoo.com > > > > > > > -- > Andrew Latham > > http://www.lathama.com > la...@gm... > la...@ya... > la...@la... > If any of the above are not working we have > bigger problems than my email. > > > ________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com > > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-13 19:33:25
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First thoughts are we will need an additional column in the _Users table, say Access, that can be one of at least three values: 1, Admin, can view / edit all, and make changes to the user definition tables. 2, Internal, can view / edit all, and make changes to the contacts and AR and billing records. 3, External, can view only AR's billing and WR's where they are registered as a contact for the company the record relates to. and create WR's but will not have the opportunity to change the company or contact detail on the WR to anything other than themselves. It might be better to create a database containing a menu system that will enable or suppress elements depending on access level. MO On Saturday 13 November 2004 09:00, osr...@li... wrote: > Ok will look at it.... I need help here guys..... > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Alfonso Perez > > <bui...@ya...> wrote: > > Dont give them a drop down. Give them a login prompt. > > If the person accessing the system doent know his/her > > account they have no right trying to add a work > > request. Have that account referrence only > > information for the company to which is assigned. In > > fact it could be the same as the WR screen. You can > > use the client name as the account and that would make > > restricting it easier. > > As far as the consultant is conserned one should be > > tied to the client as his primary contact. This would > > allow for a secretary to reassign the job if needed > > be. > > > > --- Andrew Latham <la...@gm...> wrote: > > > Need help. If you would like to layout a page and an > > > show me how it > > > should work I would love to. The issue is that > > > customers should not > > > see other customers and allowing them to log in with > > > a dropdown of > > > customer IDs is the prefered method. > > > > > > Ideas on this topic are welcome. Any submission on > > > this topic would > > > probably be accepted as there is no current code. > > > Hint. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > Andrew Latham > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:58 -0800 (PST), Alfonso > > > Perez > > > > > > <bui...@ya...> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > My use of OSRAIDS is so so, but if Customer > > > > > > Login and Customer Request > > > > > > > were available then life would be oh so much > > > > > > nicer. Any idea as to when > > > > > > > these will be available? > > > > > > > > Thanks keep up the good work > > > > > > > > Alfonso Perez > > > > NetServices de Puerto Rico inc. > > > > 787-605-7307 > > > > ap...@my... > > > > ap...@ne... > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > > > > > www.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Latham > > > > > > http://www.lathama.com > > > la...@gm... > > > la...@ya... > > > la...@la... > > > If any of the above are not working we have > > > bigger problems than my email. > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > www.yahoo.com |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-13 09:00:28
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Ok will look at it.... I need help here guys..... On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:29:08 -0800 (PST), Alfonso Perez <bui...@ya...> wrote: > Dont give them a drop down. Give them a login prompt. > If the person accessing the system doent know his/her > account they have no right trying to add a work > request. Have that account referrence only > information for the company to which is assigned. In > fact it could be the same as the WR screen. You can > use the client name as the account and that would make > restricting it easier. > As far as the consultant is conserned one should be > tied to the client as his primary contact. This would > allow for a secretary to reassign the job if needed > be. > > > > --- Andrew Latham <la...@gm...> wrote: > > > Need help. If you would like to layout a page and an > > show me how it > > should work I would love to. The issue is that > > customers should not > > see other customers and allowing them to log in with > > a dropdown of > > customer IDs is the prefered method. > > > > Ideas on this topic are welcome. Any submission on > > this topic would > > probably be accepted as there is no current code. > > Hint. > > > > Thank You. > > Andrew Latham > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:58 -0800 (PST), Alfonso > > Perez > > <bui...@ya...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > My use of OSRAIDS is so so, but if Customer > > Login and Customer Request > > > were available then life would be oh so much > > nicer. Any idea as to when > > > these will be available? > > > > > > Thanks keep up the good work > > > > > > Alfonso Perez > > > NetServices de Puerto Rico inc. > > > 787-605-7307 > > > ap...@my... > > > ap...@ne... > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > www.yahoo.com > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Latham > > > > http://www.lathama.com > > la...@gm... > > la...@ya... > > la...@la... > > If any of the above are not working we have > > bigger problems than my email. > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > www.yahoo.com > > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-12 21:28:22
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Need help. If you would like to layout a page and an show me how it should work I would love to. The issue is that customers should not see other customers and allowing them to log in with a dropdown of customer IDs is the prefered method. Ideas on this topic are welcome. Any submission on this topic would probably be accepted as there is no current code. Hint. Thank You. Andrew Latham On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:06:58 -0800 (PST), Alfonso Perez <bui...@ya...> wrote: > > Hi > My use of OSRAIDS is so so, but if Customer Login and Customer Request > were available then life would be oh so much nicer. Any idea as to when > these will be available? > > Thanks keep up the good work > > Alfonso Perez > NetServices de Puerto Rico inc. > 787-605-7307 > ap...@my... > ap...@ne... > > ________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-12 21:23:53
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Martin Thank you for all of your Ideas. I am a bit busy both socialy and professionally at the moment. I did the Invoice update to the ARs once. I found that when you go to print out the AR for inclusion with the invoice letter (solution to one of your questions) that you could change it. If you have a chalk board or white board and would like to draw out the database and operation then you will see that it is hard to do as you will store information twice which is a no-no. Yes I know about the developer release issues. I am having trouble finishing any part so I just work on another. I asked a friend who manages a larger project and he says that he just asks his wife to yell at him until its done..... I am lacking in that section but hope to finish without. Please just send emails asking if I am "done yet" to keep me on my toes. Thanks Martin Andrew Latham On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:32:32 +0000, Martin Owen <ma...@re...> wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Just been looking at the OSRAIDS invoicing again, and wanted to put a bit in > to automatically mark an AR as billed when it had been added to an invoice > and printed. so have added this bit of code: > > The second bit is to expand the description of the AR onto the invoice, this > has been asked for by some of my customers, and with it included the others > did not complain..... this is controlled by another var ($expandar) in the > config.php being set to "Yes". As you mentioned you were going to do some on > the config setup I wanted to get this in. > > I have been testing this on the 1.2.3 release as I've found that there are > some anomalies with the _dev code due to the $lang bits being added, I guess > you will already know this and the correction will be part of your > "abstraction" it's matching a $lang modified status to a fixed "Unbilled" > pattern in the Invoice section (create element). So I apologise if you have > seen some of the diff file before. > > Also I have started utilising the Invoice table, I want to ensure that the > AR's have a realistic, and fixed Invoice number attached, and difficult to > change. I would like this to be auto generated at the creation time, but will > need to a bit more work to understand how this can be done. > > How is version 2 coming along? can't wait to get my teeth into it !!!! > > Kind regards Martin > > > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-12 07:05:03
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Yes this is true, but UTF-8 _is_ ISO 10646. Let me explain. They are bit for bit identical. Everything that works with that ISO will work with UTF-8. The question is, how will a search engine or futures user agent handle such a vauge statement. If I want all user agents in the future to understand the language desired I will have to force it upon them in a standard way. Just beat Halo2. Weak ending if I do say so. Back to work until the Lan party. I am working on the setup and am going to implement the language system at the minimum until I am happy with the standards. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:16:25 +0100, osr...@li... <osr...@li...> wrote: > Not exactly. UTF-8 is a method of encoding of unicode text, where common > english characters are written as ordinary 8-bit text and just special > characters are encoded as a sequence of two bytes. There are also another > encoding methods, like UTF-16, UCS-2 etc. All they are a part of the Unicode > standard. > > On Thursday 11 November 2004 02:49, > osr...@li... wrote: > > UTF-8 is ISO 10646 just with a easy name. I am looking for the common > > roadmap as some sections of the standards group are looking for the > > "all or nothing" and others are working on the "seperate is better" > > setup. > > -- > > > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Osraids-developers mailing list > Osr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osraids-developers > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-12 06:01:01
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Not exactly. UTF-8 is a method of encoding of unicode text, where common english characters are written as ordinary 8-bit text and just special characters are encoded as a sequence of two bytes. There are also another encoding methods, like UTF-16, UCS-2 etc. All they are a part of the Unicode standard. On Thursday 11 November 2004 02:49, osr...@li... wrote: > UTF-8 is ISO 10646 just with a easy name. I am looking for the common > roadmap as some sections of the standards group are looking for the > "all or nothing" and others are working on the "seperate is better" > setup. -- Robert Zelnik e-mail: rz...@vs... |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-11 01:49:20
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Update UTF-8 is ISO 10646 just with a easy name. I am looking for the common roadmap as some sections of the standards group are looking for the "all or nothing" and others are working on the "seperate is better" setup. The merits of both. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unicode (ISO 10646) allows all languages to render under the same charset. Seperate (ISO 8859-(1-18) allows a SGML(HTML, XHTML, XML and others) document to declare its language or force the user to render to that language. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unicode would be easier but would eventually have an added element to force the user agent(browser in our case) to use a particular language for search or formating functions(right to left verses left to right and such) to the writers request. Anyone out there that remembers the SGML markup and has input, please email me. I am coding for the seperate setup but am concerned about the PDF output, future API setups for Quickbooks(OFX) and email functions amongst other things. Linus tells people to not over plan, just release, and I am trying. I will do a release because I have been bothered about it a lot lately. On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:27:01 +0100, osr...@li... <osr...@li...> wrote: > OK, let's do it in iso-8859. It's a good choice. :) > > Robert > > On Wednesday 10 November 2004 11:40, > > > osr...@li... wrote: > > W3C.org has a different take on it. Yes the backend can be anything, > > however the XHTML, CSS, XML standards are pushing the ISO stuff. MySQL > > can handle anything as it is just storing stuff, so as long as it is > > not an index or a sort function then MySQL does not know. > > > > Just got back from 13hours of Halo2..... > -- > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Osraids-developers mailing list > Osr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osraids-developers > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-11 00:27:17
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Issue: CSS button highlighting Severity: very low Description: Button highlighting was broken on some browsers due to an uppercase B as shown below. Current code. <span class="tab" onmouseover="this.style.BackgroundColor='#abe'" onmouseout="this.style.BackgroundColor='#eee'"> It should be formated as follows: <span class="tab" onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#abe'" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='#eee'"> While this has a low severity, it does affect its compliance with the W3C.org Validator. OSRAIDS DevTeam |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-10 22:48:29
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Just woke up and have no plans or work. I will spend a couple (5) hours on it. thanks everyone On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:27:01 +0100, osr...@li... <osr...@li...> wrote: > OK, let's do it in iso-8859. It's a good choice. :) > > Robert > > On Wednesday 10 November 2004 11:40, > > > osr...@li... wrote: > > W3C.org has a different take on it. Yes the backend can be anything, > > however the XHTML, CSS, XML standards are pushing the ISO stuff. MySQL > > can handle anything as it is just storing stuff, so as long as it is > > not an index or a sort function then MySQL does not know. > > > > Just got back from 13hours of Halo2..... > -- > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Osraids-developers mailing list > Osr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osraids-developers > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-10 18:26:52
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OK, let's do it in iso-8859. It's a good choice. :) Robert On Wednesday 10 November 2004 11:40, osr...@li... wrote: > W3C.org has a different take on it. Yes the backend can be anything, > however the XHTML, CSS, XML standards are pushing the ISO stuff. MySQL > can handle anything as it is just storing stuff, so as long as it is > not an index or a sort function then MySQL does not know. > > Just got back from 13hours of Halo2..... -- Robert Zelnik e-mail: rz...@vs... |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-10 10:40:12
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W3C.org has a different take on it. Yes the backend can be anything, however the XHTML, CSS, XML standards are pushing the ISO stuff. MySQL can handle anything as it is just storing stuff, so as long as it is not an index or a sort function then MySQL does not know. Just got back from 13hours of Halo2..... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:50:38 +0100, osr...@li... <osr...@li...> wrote: > Right, but if you use UTF-8, you don't need to sort these encodnigs, because > Unicode is a 16-bit(or 32-bit) encoding which includes all these > language-specific encodings. So one way is to use 8-bit encodings > (ISO-8859-1, -2, ... -10) and differentiate them in dependence of concrete > language and second way is to use UTF-8 for all languages. I recommend to use > 8-bit encodings, because as I know, MySQL does not have Unicode support yet > (maybe it is already not true). > > Robert > > On Tuesday 09 November 2004 01:51, > > > osr...@li... wrote: > > Busy as can be. found this, adding it to lang.php > > $XX['ISO'] = '8859-X'; > > > > ############################# > > > > ISO 8859-1 is just one part of the ISO-8859 standard, which specifies > > several character sets, e.g.: > > 8859-1 Europe, Latin America > > 8859-2 Eastern Europe > > 8859-3 SE Europe > > 8859-4 Scandinavia (mostly covered by 8859-1 also) > > 8859-5 Cyrillic > > 8859-6 Arabic > > 8859-7 Greek > > 8859-8 Hebrew > > 8859-9 Latin5, same as 8859-1 except for Turkish instead of Icelandic > > 8859-10 Latin6, for Eskimo/Scandinavian languages > > > > ############################# > > -- > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Osraids-developers mailing list > Osr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osraids-developers > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-10 07:29:50
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Right, but if you use UTF-8, you don't need to sort these encodnigs, because Unicode is a 16-bit(or 32-bit) encoding which includes all these language-specific encodings. So one way is to use 8-bit encodings (ISO-8859-1, -2, ... -10) and differentiate them in dependence of concrete language and second way is to use UTF-8 for all languages. I recommend to use 8-bit encodings, because as I know, MySQL does not have Unicode support yet (maybe it is already not true). Robert On Tuesday 09 November 2004 01:51, osr...@li... wrote: > Busy as can be. found this, adding it to lang.php > $XX['ISO'] = '8859-X'; > > ############################# > > ISO 8859-1 is just one part of the ISO-8859 standard, which specifies > several character sets, e.g.: > 8859-1 Europe, Latin America > 8859-2 Eastern Europe > 8859-3 SE Europe > 8859-4 Scandinavia (mostly covered by 8859-1 also) > 8859-5 Cyrillic > 8859-6 Arabic > 8859-7 Greek > 8859-8 Hebrew > 8859-9 Latin5, same as 8859-1 except for Turkish instead of Icelandic > 8859-10 Latin6, for Eskimo/Scandinavian languages > > ############################# -- Robert Zelnik e-mail: rz...@vs... |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-09 00:51:41
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Busy as can be. found this, adding it to lang.php $XX['ISO'] = '8859-X'; ############################# ISO 8859-1 is just one part of the ISO-8859 standard, which specifies several character sets, e.g.: 8859-1 Europe, Latin America 8859-2 Eastern Europe 8859-3 SE Europe 8859-4 Scandinavia (mostly covered by 8859-1 also) 8859-5 Cyrillic 8859-6 Arabic 8859-7 Greek 8859-8 Hebrew 8859-9 Latin5, same as 8859-1 except for Turkish instead of Icelandic 8859-10 Latin6, for Eskimo/Scandinavian languages ############################# -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-05 08:47:39
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I have a friend working on Russian. There are some issues that he lead me o= nto. First of all the document type (DTD) needs updated for each language, along with the html and xhtml stuff. that can be seen near the top of the head.php. Second off the cyrillic (sp) font set is new to me but I understand the concept, I will continue with my developments of a new config and changing the lang on the fly. After I have a more usable version I will release and then will conquor the font and then the Dates for martin, (martin pointed out that different date schemes would be nice) so to use the devel you would edit the config.php by editor not the config system, then create the database and tables. then run. the lang.php file just creates an array with the keyword for the key and the translation for the value. so setting the $lang =3D $sk; is what you need to do in the config. This is a little more work than I thought but it had to be done some time. I am not good with CVS but will try to (with help) get the sourceforge upda= ted. I am organizing a legal battle for another project that I work with and am a little busy so that is what the speed hit is. ---- http://mondorescue.org ----- Andrew Latham On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 07:46:27 +0100, Robert Zeln=EDk <rz...@vs...> wrot= e: > I downloaded and installed the devel version. How can I set up an interfa= ce in > Slovak language? >=20 > On Tuesday 02 November 2004 20:20, Andrew Latham wrote: > > sure > > > > http://osraids.org/downloads/osraids_devel.tar.gz > > > > edit the config.php by hand - It is still missing some word > > replacement but it will give you a good idea of what it will look > > like! > -- >=20 >=20 > Robert Zelnik > e-mail: rz...@vs... >=20 --=20 Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have=20 bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-03 23:08:48
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Carpal Tunnel.....typing too much..... new setup is 60% done it is going to use the same themed look and have I18N at login. will work on documentation after. A friend is working on russian and I will do french and 1337 later. So far I have "no", "sk", "en-gb", and "en". I would like some feed back on the new layout. Check screenshot on website.= =20 Suggested colors or backgrounds for alternate themes. I have a gray and blue (shown) theme. Theme will be selectable by user. CSS is very cool. Also will push authentication to a splash screen so language can be chosen. default will be set in config. thanks guys....... Martin Owen - Code, Translator - EN-GB Robert Zeln=EDk - Translator - SK Tellef Haugen - Translator - NO Noah Tucker - Translator - RU |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-03 18:10:18
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I have just learned that the translations will infact be easy to complete. http://w3c.org has a lot of great references and ideas about using different char-sets. RFC 3066 -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-03 18:08:27
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Here are the optional Cyrillic type encodings for the translation. I will read more about them. So far it seems that I can handle both with no issue. I am checking the database manual next for confirmation. cp1251 - Windows-1251, win-1251, 1251 Windows-specific Cyrillic charset. KOI8-R - koi8-ru, koi8r - Russian. This charset is supported in 4.3.2. I can use anything that you can send. -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-03 11:23:16
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 osr...@li... wrote: |######### |Variables |######### |This can get dangerous. I will set it right and email you. The long |trem issue is that the lang array will be replaced by a database |driven array that will not contain any other languages. so I will fix |a select box for the config. I would highly suggest using the same type of setup as phpBB. Rather than hitting the DB for all of the strings, a php file could be used to good effect. this also allows for languages to be dropped in much more easily (for the user). Since this is static data it would seem to make more sense to have it in a static format rather than a SQL DB. Just my 2 cents. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBiL+earBryG7yLtERAl/MAKCXBqvr0tJDMduGaCaaGmYtXL+pcACdEt4J WMrn7ZgWLXOfwp6H9WsA0x8= =x1Cg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-03 08:53:33
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OK I am looking at all the code you sent me. have most of it in. some issues ######################################################## Date ######## - I think that changing it at the report level is not the best of ideas so here are three ideas about a fix. My choice is the third and the function for calculating invoice due dates will need revision. We could also write a function for this or I could email you my work on the calendar module. Yes I have hidden code from you and the users. I want to work more on the 2.0 branch but the I18N and css inspired me to work some on the 1.x.x branch. 1. in the sql syntax - osraids is using the sql engine already to format some things so it is better to utilize the same process for the conversion (hint: I won an award for using the database to format data when the scripting language was slow, ASP in 1998) 2. the date formating should work in all forms and there for have a function to do this so that all forms can display the way you wish. 3. from setup on you could declare the structure by changing the database table creation commands once. - my vote for easiest ! < // $pdf->Cell(2,0.25,$dbrow["SerDate"],0,2,'L'); < $serdate = strtotime( $dbrow["SerDate"]); < $serdate = date ($datefmt,$serdate ); < $pdf->Cell(2,0.25,$serdate,0,2,'L'); --- > $pdf->Cell(2,0.25,$dbrow["SerDate"],0,2,'L'); ######### Variables ######### This can get dangerous. I will set it right and email you. The long trem issue is that the lang array will be replaced by a database driven array that will not contain any other languages. so I will fix a select box for the config. < $confinfo .= "\$clang = \"" . $lang . "\";\n"; < $confinfo .= "\$lang = $$lang;\n"; ######################################################## more as I go.... spent to much time with the TV tonight.... Election and all.... On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:47:57 +0000, Martin Owen <ma...@re...> wrote: > Andrew, as a temp setup till the wizard is done, I've changed the > config/form.php and config/createconf.php diff's attached. > > MRO... > > > -- Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have bigger problems than my email. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-02 15:35:29
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The CVS on sourceforge is now syncronised with the osraids_devl as posted on the osraids.org web site http://osraids.org/index.php?page=download It can be accessed at cvs.sourceforge.net/osraids Browse to http://sourceforge.net/projects/osraids and select the CVS link for more information. MRO... On Tuesday 02 November 2004 06:23, osr...@li... wrote: > Andrew, I would like to start the translation into Slovak language, but > I would like to ask you to explain the system how to create the translation > file, where to upload it into CVS, etc. I opened th lang.php file which you > sent into osraids-devel mailing-list. There are all all languages in one > file. I don't think that it is a good idea, but maybe I just understand > what do you want to do with it. So I will fill the $sk[*] fields and then > send it to you via e-mail? How do you join all the lang.php files together? > Into which encoding I should save the file? And what to do if I want to > correct something or add new phrases to the new version? Send the file to > you again via e-mail? Why don't you just create a folder with translations > and anybody can edit his own language in a separate file? Explain me please > the process, I don't understand it. Thanks. |
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From: <osr...@li...> - 2004-11-02 09:46:10
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also - tellef asked this and I will repeat // Origional phrase - explaination // if you want to note something on your lang=20 // add another line like this. (the // is for comments) $sk['phrase'] =3D 'your translation here not where the phrase is.'; On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:27:34 +0100, osr...@li... <osr...@li...> wrote: > Thanks, now I understand it. The last question: which encoding should I u= se for > Slovak language? I can save it in utf-8 or iso-8859-2, or any other, whic= h is > suitable for you. > -- > Robert Zelnik > email: rz...@vs... >=20 > Cit=E1t osr...@li...: >=20 > > Thank you. > > > > I will use the lang.php file to make the database insert. I will > > format it by hand at first. I am building a web based form for all the > > translators to use to enter new words. I just wanted everyone to see > > that it is in the works. I have spent a lot of time on the I18N (that > > is starting to sound like a buzzword) and the CSS layout. >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id=12065&opclick > _______________________________________________ >=20 >=20 > Osraids-developers mailing list > Osr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osraids-developers >=20 --=20 Andrew Latham http://www.lathama.com la...@gm... la...@ya... la...@la... If any of the above are not working we have=20 bigger problems than my email. |
