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From: Cory <co...@di...> - 2005-11-07 02:46:19
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Ok so here is the situation again... I can not upgrade or update my webmin from within webmin...the only way = i can do this is to download a tar file and install from the konsole. I = have tried every suggestion that has been thrown at me previously. It = looks like a webmin configuration problem and yet i seem to be the only = one having it. Firewalls on or off doesnt help. when i click on the upgrade button it acts like it wants to download but = it returns an error message can not downgrade...this caught me because i = have 1.210 installed and i am trying to go to 1.240 so i am not sure why = it says it is a downgrade. =20 Any other suggestions would be great. Cory P.S. I did happen to buy "Managing Linux Sstems with WEBMIN" by Jamie = Cameron so far it seems to be a very good book for me to learn from |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-07 00:43:58
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Hi everyone, The problem is that sourceforge has switched to a new database server, but I didn't know about this until they had shut down the old server. Unfortunately they didn't migrate the third-party modules data, so it is currently stuck in the old database which is now in-accessible :-( I have emailed them asking for a dump of the old database, which they say is available. However, I'm still waiting for a response .. hopefully I should hear something on Monday california time. - Jamie -----Original Message----- From: Marcos Rubinstein <we...@al...> Subj: [webmin-l] Third Party modules not accessible! Date: Mon 7 Nov 2005 6:33 am Size: 1K To: <web...@li...> Third Party modules not accessible! going to http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/ gives me this error: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are Currently Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user 'webadminmodules'@'10.5.1.114' (using password: YES) in /home/groups/w/we/webadminmodules/htdocs/includes/Welcome.txt on line 3 It appears Sourceforge is having Mysql Issues.. Please Try back again shortly... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ is there anything that we could do to help to solve this situation? Cheers! Marcos ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Martin M. <mm...@me...> - 2005-11-06 20:50:56
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Hi all, Marcos Rubinstein <we...@al...> wrote: > Thanks! I don't need anything right now, but from time to time I like to > check what's new ;) > > In any case, one way to go is to do a search in sourceforge using webmin > as the search word. that will give you tons of results (but not as neat > as the way that third party modules work). Maybe we should think about a strategy to mirror the third-party-modules as= =20 well as the main webmin page? I would kindly volunteer on this issue. I remember Jamie saying that getting the TPM into the core webmin design=20 would be one of the next steps, but this is some months ago. Who is maintaining TPM anyway? I think it is a great ressource. bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes =2D-=20 =46ragen zur unbeaufsichtigten Installation von SuSE Linux sind hier ontopic: sus...@su... |
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From: Marcos R. <we...@al...> - 2005-11-06 20:36:19
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Thanks! I don't need anything right now, but from time to time I like to check what's new ;) In any case, one way to go is to do a search in sourceforge using webmin as the search word. that will give you tons of results (but not as neat as the way that third party modules work). Cheers! Marcos On Sun, 6 Nov 2005, Vernon J. Spangler wrote: > I don't know if there is anything that you could do to help fix it. But more > less what are you looking for? Maybe I have a copy of what ever you are > looking for on one of my servers. > > ------------------------------------------ > Vernon J. Spangler > http://www.vernonspangler.org/ > (573) 221-5193 Home > (573) 795-4217 Cell > ve...@ve... > ------------------------------------------ > Powered by Windows XP Professional > Sent by Microsoft Outlook 2003 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcos Rubinstein [mailto:we...@al...] > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 1:33 PM > To: web...@li... > Subject: [webmin-l] Third Party modules not accessible! > > Third Party modules not accessible! > > going to http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/ > > gives me this error: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > There are Currently > Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user > 'webadminmodules'@'10.5.1.114' (using password: YES) in > /home/groups/w/we/webadminmodules/htdocs/includes/Welcome.txt on line 3 > > > It appears Sourceforge is having Mysql Issues.. Please Try back again > shortly... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > is there anything that we could do to help to solve this situation? > > Cheers! > Marcos > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > - > Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... > To remove yourself from this list, go to > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list > |
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From: Vernon J. S. <ve...@ve...> - 2005-11-06 20:23:27
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I don't know if there is anything that you could do to help fix it. But more less what are you looking for? Maybe I have a copy of what ever you are looking for on one of my servers. ------------------------------------------ Vernon J. Spangler http://www.vernonspangler.org/ (573) 221-5193 Home (573) 795-4217 Cell ve...@ve... ------------------------------------------ Powered by Windows XP Professional Sent by Microsoft Outlook 2003 -----Original Message----- From: Marcos Rubinstein [mailto:we...@al...] Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 1:33 PM To: web...@li... Subject: [webmin-l] Third Party modules not accessible! Third Party modules not accessible! going to http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/ gives me this error: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are Currently Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user 'webadminmodules'@'10.5.1.114' (using password: YES) in /home/groups/w/we/webadminmodules/htdocs/includes/Welcome.txt on line 3 It appears Sourceforge is having Mysql Issues.. Please Try back again shortly... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ is there anything that we could do to help to solve this situation? Cheers! Marcos ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php - Forwarded by the Webmin mailing list at web...@li... To remove yourself from this list, go to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webadmin-list |
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From: Marcos R. <we...@al...> - 2005-11-06 19:32:44
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Third Party modules not accessible! going to http://webadminmodules.sourceforge.net/ gives me this error: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are Currently Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user 'webadminmodules'@'10.5.1.114' (using password: YES) in /home/groups/w/we/webadminmodules/htdocs/includes/Welcome.txt on line 3 It appears Sourceforge is having Mysql Issues.. Please Try back again shortly... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ is there anything that we could do to help to solve this situation? Cheers! Marcos |
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From: Tom <gif...@ve...> - 2005-11-06 17:36:16
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I like to have a module for both the interchange and agora shopping carts.. Like a install button. Any one? |
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From: Tom <gif...@ve...> - 2005-11-06 17:35:30
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There still having problems trying to access the modules? |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-05 12:51:16
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On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 10:16, Patrick van Elk wrote: > Jamie Cameron schreef op 03-11-05 22:21: > > >Could you post the contents of the bandwidth graph page again, showing > >the parent and sub-servers? I want to take a look at the actual > >numbers.. > > > > > Sure! These are the numbers I recorded until now, the format is date - > time - usage parent - usage sub-server - website traffic. > > 02/11 16:51 693 + 711 = 1403 > 02/11 17:38 702 + 720 = 1422 > 02/11 20:36 705 + 723 = 1428 > 03/11 14:14 790 + 808 = 1597 > 03/11 15:47 800 + 818 = 1617 > 03/11 18:42 812 + 829 = 1640 > 03/11 19:04 818 + 835 = 1653 > 04/11 00:08 820 + 837 = 1657 > > I hope these are of any use to you. Maybe I'm doing something terribly > wrong here, but I'm pretty clueless about what it could be... Hi Patrick, Those numbers actually seem to add up though .. so I don't see where the problem is. Could you explain the problem to me again? - Jamie |
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From: <dhu...@we...> - 2005-11-04 22:34:05
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Hi Vern, Jamie && all Jamie Cameron wrote: > I think I already replied to the list about this. > The short answer is that you need to use 'root' or 'admin' as the RPC > login .. > > - Jamie > > On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 01:57, Vern wrote: >>Has no one have a clue on this one? <...snip> what's working _here_ is: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --> <webmin> --> <webmin-servers> --> <YOUR-REMOTE-WEBMIN-SERVER (edit)> Server details Hostname [YOUR-(REMOTE)SERVER-NAME-HERE] Port [YOUR-(REMOTE)PORT-HERE] ... SSL server? (x) Yes Description (x) [NAME-OF-YOUR-(REMOTE)CLUSTER-SERVER-HERE] ... Link type (X) Login via Webmin with username [YOUR-(REMOTE)USERNAME-HERE]...password[YOUR-(REMOTE)PASSWORD-HERE] Make fast RPC calls? (x) No ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ... don't know, if I did understand your 'problem' It's working here 'out-of-the-box' (beside the 'fast-RPC-calls') HTH -- greetings Dieter |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-04 21:27:52
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I think I already replied to the list about this. The short answer is that you need to use 'root' or 'admin' as the RPC login .. - Jamie On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 01:57, Vern wrote: > Has no one have a clue on this one? > > ---------- Forwarded Message ----------- > From: "Vern" <ve...@cw...> > To: "Webmin List" <web...@li...> > Sent: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:46:18 -0400 > Subject: Clustering and RPC issues > > I have been trying for the longest time to setup clustering and every > time I do I get > the following error message: Invalid RPC login to 192.168.0.11 > > Any ideas on what's going wrong? I have portmap running (which I think > is what I need > running) and have disabled the firewall (in case there is a port that > needs to be > open, is there?) with no luck. > > Thanks, > Vern > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- > > > -------------------------------------------- > Vernon Webb > Network Information Systems Engineer - Webmaster > comp-wiz.com, inc. (201) 703-1232 > > The Information in this transmission is privileged and confidential. > It is > intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you > are not > the intended recipient then any review, dissemination, disclosure, > alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this email or any > attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and unlawful. > > |
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From: Danny S. <clo...@cl...> - 2005-11-04 19:01:42
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David wrote regarding 'Re: [webmin-l] BIND serial number style suggestion' on Thu, Nov 03 at 10:27: > Danny Sauer wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:38:17PM +0000, David Derrick wrote: > >>Can an option be added to the BIND module to use the Unix timestamp as > >>the serial number [...] > > > >Not to downplay the usefulness of such a timestamp, but 1) unix timestamps > >mean almost nothing to me when *I* look at them and 2) ls -l shows the > >modification time in human-readable format... :) > > Yes but if the zone file's last modified time is later than the serial > number then I know that someone's been an idiot and hacked the file > manually without changing the serial :D Ok, I'll give you that one - but only if you let me in on the secret to quickly determining what day and time 1131129509 corresponds to by simply looking at it. ;) --Danny, not counting perl -le'print scalar localtime 1131129509' |
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From: Vern <ve...@cw...> - 2005-11-04 14:58:07
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Has no one have a clue on this one? ---------- Forwarded Message ----------- From: "Vern" <ve...@cw...> To: "Webmin List" <web...@li...> Sent: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:46:18 -0400 Subject: Clustering and RPC issues I have been trying for the longest time to setup clustering and every time I do I get the following error message: Invalid RPC login to 192.168.0.11 Any ideas on what's going wrong? I have portmap running (which I think is what I need running) and have disabled the firewall (in case there is a port that needs to be open, is there?) with no luck. Thanks, Vern ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- -------------------------------------------- Vernon Webb Network Information Systems Engineer - Webmaster comp-wiz.com, inc. (201) 703-1232 The Information in this transmission is privileged and confidential. It is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient then any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this email or any attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and unlawful. |
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From: David D. <da...@en...> - 2005-11-04 13:30:51
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Danny Sauer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:38:17PM +0000, David Derrick wrote: > >>Can an option be added to the BIND module to use the Unix timestamp as >>the serial number rather than a date based serial number or a running >>number? Sometimes it's useful to see the time a zone was updated. > > > Not to downplay the usefulness of such a timestamp, but 1) unix timestamps > mean almost nothing to me when *I* look at them and 2) ls -l shows the > modification time in human-readable format... :) Yes but if the zone file's last modified time is later than the serial number then I know that someone's been an idiot and hacked the file manually without changing the serial :D Cheers, -- David Derrick Customer Support Operative Entanet Technical Services & Provisions E: da...@en... F: 0870 7709258 W: http://www.enta.net 24/7 Helpdesk/Provisions: 0871 433 3682 |
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From: Vernon J. S. <ve...@ve...> - 2005-11-04 13:18:34
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Finally I have taken the time to release this version. I am sorry it took so long to come out. I was stuck playing a game and still looking for employment. A quick description of Virtualmin Custom Link v1.5 A very simple module for people that already have a website or a specific location configured some where on there server aka like Squirrel Mail or an entirely separate site. But they do not want to release the information of it's where about. This module works a lot like the Custom Links V1.0 but it doesn't take you to another page. Instead opens a new page with no toolbar on the browsers. And has a portion where you can put in a message or a disclaimer. The Older version is still available for download. I am still accepting ideals for new 3rd party modules for Virtualmin. ------------------------------------------ Vernon J. Spangler http://www.vernonspangler.org/ (573) 221-5193 Home (573) 795-4217 Cell ve...@ve... ------------------------------------------ Powered by Windows XP Professional Sent by Microsoft Outlook 2003 |
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From: Martin M. <mm...@me...> - 2005-11-04 09:47:15
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Hi all, regarding this notifier. I am on the works to move at least the main webmin-trans-list to a new=20 system, but unfortunately the contact went down for some unknown reason. So all mentioned lists will be closed down by 10.11.2005 if nothing happens. Martin Mewes <mm...@me...> wrote: > Hi all, > > a few weeks ago I took one step back from being the Webmin Translation > Co-Ordinator and now I will do the final second one. > > As of 01.11.2005 the Webmin Translator's List and all the sub-lists for > Webmin Trans French and Webmin Trans Persian will be closed down and they > will be permanently deleted one week after the close down. > > All of these lists were hosted by myself and they are closed down because > they do not seem to be of a general interest anymore so translation stuff > can be moved to the webmin developer's list I think. > > If someone want to take over the responsibility in maintaining the lists > on his/hers server I will happily assist him/her to move the current > stuff to the new location. If this is the case please leave a message to: > <mailto:mm...@us...> > > bis dahin/kind regards > > Martin Mewes bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes =2D-=20 Webmin Translation Team -> http://webmin.mamemu.de/ Translators wanted -> tra...@we... Mailinglist mboxes -> http://mbox.mewes.tv/mbox/ |
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From: Martin M. <mm...@me...> - 2005-11-04 07:53:34
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###################################################################### History: -------- 04.11.2005 Webmin-Development-Version 1.243 released 28.10.2005 Virtualmin-Development-Version 2.608 released 18.10.2005 Webmin-Version 1.240 released as stable Usermin-Version 1.170 released as stable 06.10.2005 Usermin-Development-Version 1.162 released 03.05.2005 Virtualmin-Version 2.60 released as stable ###################################################################### Current Stable Release for Webmin is 1.240 http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.240.tar.gz http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.240-1.noarch.rpm http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.240-minimal.tar.gz Current Development Release for Webmin is 1.243 http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.243.tar.gz Current Stable Release for Usermin is 1.170 http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.170.tar.gz http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.170-1.noarch.rpm Current Development Release for Usermin is 1.162 http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.162.tar.gz Current Stable Release for VirtualMin is 2.60 http://webmin.mamemu.de/download/virtualmin/virtual-server-2.60.wbm.gz Current Development Release for VirtualMin is 2.608 http://webmin.mamemu.de/download/virtualmin/virtual-server-2.608.wbm.gz ###################################################################### Important notice: There are three announcments for stable versions. a) Maybe the first one comes with a "on the fly"-update. b) Paying sourceforge-members who are subscribed to notifications about webmin/usermin-file uploads. c) The one and only official one comes from Jamie Cameron directly. Virtualmin has gone Virtualmin Pro: Jamie Cameron and Joe Cooper founded Virtualmin Inc. Please visit http://www.virtualmin.com/ for details If you are anoyed by these post you can filter this with procmail scanning for X-Webmin: update in the header. bis dahin - kind regards Martin Mewes -- ###################################################################### http://www.webmin.com/ | Webbased Administration Tool for http://webmin.mamemu.de/ | Unixoid Systems :-) Webmin Translation Team ###################################################################### |
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From: Patrick v. E. <pat...@gm...> - 2005-11-03 23:16:37
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Jamie Cameron schreef op 03-11-05 22:21: >Could you post the contents of the bandwidth graph page again, showing >the parent and sub-servers? I want to take a look at the actual >numbers.. > > Sure! These are the numbers I recorded until now, the format is date - time - usage parent - usage sub-server - website traffic. 02/11 16:51 693 + 711 = 1403 02/11 17:38 702 + 720 = 1422 02/11 20:36 705 + 723 = 1428 03/11 14:14 790 + 808 = 1597 03/11 15:47 800 + 818 = 1617 03/11 18:42 812 + 829 = 1640 03/11 19:04 818 + 835 = 1653 04/11 00:08 820 + 837 = 1657 I hope these are of any use to you. Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong here, but I'm pretty clueless about what it could be... Bye, Patrick |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-03 22:32:37
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Hi Matt,
Unfortunately there is no way to duplicate configurations like this on a general basis from Webmin. It can be done in some areas (like firewalling, printers, users and packages) using the various cluster modules though..
The best solution would be to set up a Cron job that uses rsync to copy across the important files on a regular schedule. Of course, you would have to be careful to only duplicate files that have no reference to the hosts' names or IP addresses in them.
- Jamie
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From: Matt Lowe <we...@ma...>
Subj: [webmin-l] duplicating changes accross webmin servers {Scanned}
Date: Fri 4 Nov 2005 8:52 am
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Hi,
Is it posible to get webmin to duplicate ALL changes made to one server
to other clustered servers? basicly i want to be able to have 2 servers
running, and any changes made on one by webmin will be mirrored into the
second server, without having to start using rsync etc.
Is it posible to set webmin to force changes on other servers outside of
the normal cluster controls? e.g. changes made to alises would be
dublicated, as well as changes made by virtualmin, and other modules
Posibly using the webmin logging system to allow future webmin and
custom modules to be configured for this without having to re-write
anything?
Many thanks
Matt
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From: Matt L. <we...@ma...> - 2005-11-03 21:52:08
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Hi, Is it posible to get webmin to duplicate ALL changes made to one server to other clustered servers? basicly i want to be able to have 2 servers running, and any changes made on one by webmin will be mirrored into the second server, without having to start using rsync etc. Is it posible to set webmin to force changes on other servers outside of the normal cluster controls? e.g. changes made to alises would be dublicated, as well as changes made by virtualmin, and other modules Posibly using the webmin logging system to allow future webmin and custom modules to be configured for this without having to re-write anything? Many thanks Matt -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact ms...@ms... for support. |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-03 21:38:04
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On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 10:52, Carlton Thomas wrote: > Good idea adding the date/time based serial number to BIND config files. > But, as Danny said, what would be more useful is getting Webmin to show > the last modification time of the files. > > That brings me on to an idea I had some time ago but never got round to > posting. I feel it would be very useful to have Webmin/Virtualmin add > timestamps to all configuration files that are created or changed. > These can be added in as comment lines where possible and if the file > structure does not permit comments, then maybe a supplementary file > could be created and comments added to that instead. > > The date timestamp could include other useful information such as the > name of the Webmin user who made the change(s) and where possible, an > indication of the change(s) made. > > These timestamp comments could be left in the files and would provide > a change history. It would also be nice to have a "show-change-history" > feature in all Webmin modules which create/modify system config files. > I know that it is possible to check the Webmin logs and glean most of > this information, but there is nothing like having it there in black > and white while you are looking at the file. > > OK, my dream is to have a config management system built into Webmin > which would allow rollback of changes and other change management > goodies, but, like I said, thats just a dream. Hi Carlton, Have you had a look at the Webmin Actions Log module? It actually does a lot of these things, such as recording what files were changed, when and how as part of each action. Plus it can be set up to allow file rollbacks too! - Jamie |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-03 21:21:49
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On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 10:05, Patrick van Elk wrote: > Hi, > > Patrick van Elk schreef op 02-11-05 16:14: > > > Now I have one domain left which is really not an Alias Server. I will > > wait and see if the bandwidth usage for this sub-server is correct too... > > Unfortunately, it looks as if the bandwidth usage of this server is > still wrong. The difference between the bandwidth usage of the parent > server and the sub-server was and is constantly 17-18 megabytes over the > last two days, I think that is too much of a coincidence... Could you post the contents of the bandwidth graph page again, showing the parent and sub-servers? I want to take a look at the actual numbers.. - Jamie |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-03 21:17:08
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On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 09:38, Alan Dobkin wrote: > On 11/1/2005 3:12 AM, mm...@me... wrote: > > History: > > -------- > > 31.10.2005 > > Webmin-Development-Version 1.242 released > > Jamie, > > Webmin Development Versions 1.242 and 1.243 were only released as > tarballs. Can you build the RPMs for these? Sure .. I will build an RPM for 1.243, which will be available in about 18 hours. - Jamie |
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From: Jamie C. <jca...@we...> - 2005-11-03 21:05:24
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On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 04:38, David Derrick wrote: > Can an option be added to the BIND module to use the Unix timestamp as > the serial number rather than a date based serial number or a running > number? Sometimes it's useful to see the time a zone was updated. That's a nice idea .. I will add an option for this in the next Webmin release. - Jamie |
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From: Carlton T. <ca...@gi...> - 2005-11-03 18:52:56
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Good idea adding the date/time based serial number to BIND config files. But, as Danny said, what would be more useful is getting Webmin to show the last modification time of the files. That brings me on to an idea I had some time ago but never got round to posting. I feel it would be very useful to have Webmin/Virtualmin add timestamps to all configuration files that are created or changed. These can be added in as comment lines where possible and if the file structure does not permit comments, then maybe a supplementary file could be created and comments added to that instead. The date timestamp could include other useful information such as the name of the Webmin user who made the change(s) and where possible, an indication of the change(s) made. These timestamp comments could be left in the files and would provide a change history. It would also be nice to have a "show-change-history" feature in all Webmin modules which create/modify system config files. I know that it is possible to check the Webmin logs and glean most of this information, but there is nothing like having it there in black and white while you are looking at the file. OK, my dream is to have a config management system built into Webmin which would allow rollback of changes and other change management goodies, but, like I said, thats just a dream. Regards ! -- Carlton ============================= GIFFORD INTERNET SERVICES Bristol, United Kingdom Tel: 0845 868 2245 Fax: 0845 004 6843 Email: ad...@gi... Web: http://www.gifford.co.uk ============================= On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Danny Sauer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:38:17PM +0000, David Derrick wrote: > > Can an option be added to the BIND module to use the Unix timestamp as > > the serial number rather than a date based serial number or a running > > number? Sometimes it's useful to see the time a zone was updated. > > Not to downplay the usefulness of such a timestamp, but 1) unix timestamps > mean almost nothing to me when *I* look at them and 2) ls -l shows the > modification time in human-readable format... :) > > But hey, the field's size is 32 bits, and our favorite time_t is also 32 > bits, so I'd endorse it as another valid option (until January, 2038). I > think it'd be kinda neat to just show the last modification time in Webmin, > though. While we're on the topic. > > --Danny |