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Re: [webmin-l] LDAP Users and Groups module performance

[Murray T. <mtr...@ce...>]

On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 22:49 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 25/Feb/2007 22:19 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:27 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > On 21/Jan/2007 16:11 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > > > On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 00:23 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > > > On 18/Jan/2007 22:46 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > > > > > Hi Jamie
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We now have over 1000 users we manage with the LDAP Users module.
> > > > I
> > > > > > have noticed lately that it is becoming very slow bringing up the
> > > > > > initial screen.  I can imagine things only getting worse as the
> > > > > > directory gets larger.  I haven't checked the queries My guess
> > is that
> > > > > > the module tries to search the LDAP directory for the whole list
> > of
> > > > > > users, then after realising there are too many, it then says there
> > > > are
> > > > > > too many to display and fails.  Even if I set the maximum number
> > of
> > > > > > users or groups to display to 0 or 1 it still takes a fair few
> > seconds
> > > > > > to display the opening screen.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The recommed method is to process each LDAP user entry one at a
> > time
> > > > as
> > > > > > they are returned. The module would stop when it reached the limit
> > > > of
> > > > > > users for that page which could be a configuration value.  The
> > module
> > > > > > appears to be using the NET::LDAP library.  I had a look at the
> > > > > > documentation below and they recommend processing each entry as
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > returned:  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/perl-ldap-0.33/lib/Net/LDAP/FAQ.pod#USING_THE_CALLBACK_SUBROUTINE_APPROACH
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If we want 100 users to be displayed on the page we print the first
> > > > 100
> > > > > > entries then quit.  If we want users 100-200 we would ignore the
> > first
> > > > > > hundred entries and print the second hundred, and so on.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hope the above idea has merit and its possible for you to implement
> > > > at
> > > > > > some stage.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually, that is what the module already does. The main page does
> > an
> > > > > LDAP search for matching users, and then checks the number of results
> > > > available.
> > > > > If this is higher than the maximum set on the Module Config page,
> > it
> > > > just
> > > > > displays the search form without fetching the full user list.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course, for this to be useful I assume that the LDAP server doesn't
> > > > > fetch users from it's database until actually asked to..
> > > > > 
> > > > >  - Jamie
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If it does things in the sequential manner then I am not sure why it
> > is
> > > > so slow for me.  There is nothing wrong with the performance of the
> > ldap
> > > > server.  I can do an ldapsearch from a client machine and dump the
> > whole
> > > > list of users into a text file in less than a second.  Going into the
> > > > first ldap users and groups screen with the list of users takes > 10
> > > > secs even with the amount of users to display set to 0. I am not sure
> > > > where the bottleneck in performance is?
> > > 
> > > I took another look at the code for this module, and it seems that even
> > > though Webmin just calls the Net::LDAP module's search function, this
> > > takes a long time to respond on large LDAP databases even though no
> > > actual results are requested!
> > > 
> > > However, I managed to find another way to reduce the search size, by
> > > specifying a maximum result size to the LDAP server. This will go into
> > > the next (1.330) Webmin release.
> > > 
> > >  - Jamie
> > 
> > Hi Jamie,
> > 
> > I noticed that you had added the fix above to the 1.328 version.  I
> > downloaded it and tested it.  It displays the initial list of
> > users/groups immediately if it exceeds the limit for the page.  Thanks
> > for your work on that - it will improve things a lot in our setup.
> 
> Excellent .. glad to hear that solved it.
> 
> > I noticed there is now a different Webmin theme by default.  I tried
> > changing to the previous theme and couldn't find it.  All the themes I
> > chose appeared the same to me.  I couldn't change back to the new
> > default theme either.  Not sure the new theme stuff is right?
> 
> Did you use the Change Language and Theme module to switch themes? If 
> you change the global setting in the Webmin Configuration module, it
> can still be over-ridden on a per-user basis by the former module..
> 
>  - Jamie

I just tried the Change Language and Theme module and that seems to work
better.  It's a bit confusing having both options though.

Murray

Re: [webmin-l] Newbie

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 20:47 Peter Lauri wrote ..
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hi,<o:p /></span></font></p>



<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I found this site. What I am looking for is to be able to
handle virtual domains and mail accounts. Will webadmin help me out on my
Fedora Core 6?<o:p /></span></font></p>

</div></blockquote><div class=3D"Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>Yes .. but it is much easier if you install the Virtualmin module too, and the Virtualmin theme (and enable it). Both can be downloaded from http://www.webmin.com/index8.html .=A0</o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"Section1">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Are there any security risks to be aware of? I assume I
should run it on HTTPS?<o:p /></span></font></p>

</div></blockquote><div class=3D"Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>The current Webmin release doesn't have any known security holes. And yes, you should run on HTTPS .. Webmin does this automatically if the Net::SSLeay Perl modue is installed.<br /></o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"Section1">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The software just modifies config files, correct? So if I
want to remove it later I just do that without interfering with my system?<o:p /></span></font></p>

</div></blockquote><div class=3D"Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>Yes, and yes.</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>=A0- Jamie=A0</o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"Section1">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Best regards,<o:p /></span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Peter Lauri</span></font><o:p /></p>

<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">=A0<o:p /></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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[webmin-l] Newbie

[Peter L. <li...@dw...>]

Hi,

 

I found this site. What I am looking for is to be able to handle virtual
domains and mail accounts. Will webadmin help me out on my Fedora Core 6?

 

Are there any security risks to be aware of? I assume I should run it on
HTTPS?

 

The software just modifies config files, correct? So if I want to remove it
later I just do that without interfering with my system?

 

Best regards,

 

Best regards,

Peter Lauri

 

 <http://www.dwsasia.com/> www.dwsasia.com - company web site

 <http://www.lauri.se/> www.lauri.se - personal web site

 <http://www.carbonfree.org.uk/> www.carbonfree.org.uk - become Carbon Free

 

Re: [webmin-l] Usermin--> Compose Mail and Mac OS9

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

I guess the only solution here is to disable this feature globally
in Usermin. In the next release, adding the line no_upload_tracker=1
to /etc/usermin/config will do this.

 - Jamie

On 26/Feb/2007 08:47 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> Ok I checked in with my people this morning.  It appears that when this
> happens IE out right crashes and freezes.  The mail never makes it to 
> the SMTP port of the server it appears.  Users then have to force quite
> IE.
> -Jesse
> 
> 
> Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 23/Feb/2007 17:27 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
> >   
> >> Hello all once again.
> >>
> >> Hay I recently upgraded to Usermin 1.25 Monday night and now have a
> few
> >> users coming to me saying that when they attach documents to an email
> >> all is well until they click to send the email.  At that point a little
> >> box pops up and says something about an error "@uptracker".  They tell
> >> me the box is grayed and weird looking which being OS9 no surprise there.
> >>
> >> I looked on the server and basically for every user who reported this
> >> today I noticed 1 line in the running processes:
> >> /usr/local/usermin-1.250/uptracker.cgi
> >>
> >> Never quits or times out.  Just keeps running.
> >>
> >> Any Ideas?  The clients BTW are Mac OS 9.2.2 using IE 5.1.7.  I have
> not
> >> been able to replicate this issue on any OS X or Windows machines as
> of
> >> currently.  This is a new one to me.  I know over the last few months
> IE
> >> on the Mac is having more and more problems with websites, but 
> >> unfortunately 5.1.7 was the last version by Microsoft and to my 
> >> knowledge the latest browser for OS9 period....
> >>     
> >
> > You may be running into a new feature in Usermin for showing a progress
> > bar during large file uploads, such as when attaching a file to an email.
> > Does this prevent email from being sent?
> >
> >  - Jamie
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Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory -LookslikeaQuota problem.

[Russ F. <ru...@to...>]

On 26 Feb 2007, at 20:37, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> On 26/Feb/2007 12:36 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
>>
>> On 26 Feb 2007, at 20:28, Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/Feb/2007 12:19 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
>>>>
>>>> On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:47, Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you  
>>>>> could SSH in as the user and run the command :
>>>>> quota -v
>>>>> Let me know what that outputs..
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jamie
>>>>
>>>> -bash-3.00$ quota -v
>>>> Disk quotas for user yaddayadda (uid 516):
>>>> Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace
>>>> /dev/hda3 13080* 5120 0 none 20 0 0
>>>>
>>>> Currently total, and admin are set for 200MB and 100MB resp.
>>>> Disk space used (includi ng sub-servers)
>>>> 44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)
>>>> Space used by databases
>>>> 8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I give unlimited quota, in the VS page, no change.
>>>>
>>>> BUT, I went to the Mail and FTP user page and noticed the user  
>>>> had local dir quota of 5MB, but used 13MB. So when I gave the  
>>>> user 40MB, and do my test again, it works!
>>>> AND, when I put the user back to 5MB (thi s bears on his home  
>>>> directory as I read it) even though he still has 13MB "used",  
>>>> (actually his home dir is practically empty most of his data is  
>>>> in svn,
>>>> -bash-3.00$ du -sh .
>>>> 20K .
>>>> )
>>>> the problem does not come back!
>>>>
>>>> SO raising his person quota temporarily and putting back again  
>>>> solved the problem "permanently".
>>>>
>>>> There's more to quota than meets the eye.
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm out of my fix, but I think there is still a problem  
>>>> somewhere in quota processing. If you need more data points, let  
>>>> me know.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> -r
>>>> So was this user the owner of the domain, or a separate mailbox  
>>>> account?
>>> not the owner. Just a mailbox account.
>> -
> Ah .. in that case, that would explain it. The quota settings on  
> the Edit Virtual Server page aren't really relevant, as this user's  
> own quota would be taking effect instead.
>
Perhaps. ( I assume that all users are totalled in the VS page limits.)
I don't know why my test worked even after I put the quota back to  
5MB while he had 13MB of stuff.
And why was it counting 13MB when his home was empty. You say on the  
user edit that it applies to the home directory. His only had 20kB in  
it.
Something is dodgy here. I'm not saying it's Webmin, but the whole  
picture is less than satisfying.
Anyway, I'm not losing sleep on this, but I think it's an area that  
needs some cleanup, at least on CentOS. If you want me to look at  
this further, just ask.
Thanks for provoking a solution, and congrats on some great software.
--r

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Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory -LookslikeaQuota problem.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 12:36 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<br /><div><div>On 26 Feb 2007, at 20:28, Jamie Cameron wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline" /><blockquote type=3D"cite"> On 26/Feb/2007 12:19 Russ Ferriday wrote .. <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <br /><div><div>On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:47, Jamie Cameron wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline" /><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><i style=3D"font-style: italic;"><i style=3D"font-style: italic;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-style: italic;">Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you could SSH in as the user and run the command :</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span class=3D"Apple-style-s
 pan" style=3D"font-style: italic;">quota -v</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-style: italic;">Let me know what that outputs..</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-style: italic;"> - Jamie</span></i></i></span></blockquote></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>-bash-3.00$ quota -v</div><div>Disk quotas for user yaddayadda (uid 516): </div><div>     Filesystem  blocks   quota   limit   grace   files   quota   limit   grace</div><div>      /dev/hda3   13080*   5120       0    none      20       0       0        </div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Currently total, and admin are set for 200MB and 100MB resp.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Disk space used (includi
 ng sub-servers)</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Space used by databases</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)</span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>If I give unlimited quota, in the VS page, no change.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>BUT, I went to the Mail and FTP user page and noticed the user 
 had local dir quota of 5MB, but used 13MB. So when I gave the user 40MB, and do my test again, it works!</div><div>AND, when I put the user back to 5MB (thi s bears on his home directory as I read it) even though he still has 13MB &quot;used&quot;, (actually his home dir is practically empty most of his data is in svn, </div><div>-bash-3.00$ du -sh .</div><div>20K     .</div><div>)</div><div>the problem does not come back!</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>SO raising his person quota temporarily and putting back again solved the problem &quot;permanently&quot;.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>There's more to quota than meets the eye.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>So, I'm out of my fix, but I think there is still a problem somewhere in quota processing. If you need more data points, let me know.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Best </div><div>-r</div></blockquot
 e>So was this user the owner of the domain, or a separate mailbox account?<br /></blockquote>not the owner. Just a mailbox account.</div><div>-</div></blockquote>Ah .. in that case, that would explain it. The quota settings on the Edit Virtual Server page aren't really relevant, as this user's own quota would be taking effect instead.<br /><br />=A0- Jamie<br /><br />

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - LookslikeaQuota problem.

[Russ F. <ru...@to...>]

On 26 Feb 2007, at 20:28, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> On 26/Feb/2007 12:19 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
>>
>> On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:47, Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you could  
>>> SSH in as the user and run the command :
>>> quota -v
>>> Let me know what that outputs..
>>>
>>> - Jamie
>>
>> -bash-3.00$ quota -v
>> Disk quotas for user yaddayadda (uid 516):
>> Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace
>> /dev/hda3 13080* 5120 0 none 20 0 0
>>
>> Currently total, and admin are set for 200MB and 100MB resp.
>> Disk space used (including sub-servers)
>> 44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)
>> Space used by databases
>> 8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)
>>
>>
>> If I give unlimited quota, in the VS page, no change.
>>
>> BUT, I went to the Mail and FTP user page and noticed the user had  
>> local dir quota of 5MB, but used 13MB. So when I gave the user  
>> 40MB, and do my test again, it works!
>> AND, when I put the user back to 5MB (thi s bears on his home  
>> directory as I read it) even though he still has 13MB "used",  
>> (actually his home dir is practically empty most of his data is in  
>> svn,
>> -bash-3.00$ du -sh .
>> 20K .
>> )
>> the problem does not come back!
>>
>> SO raising his person quota temporarily and putting back again  
>> solved the problem "permanently".
>>
>> There's more to quota than meets the eye.
>>
>> So, I'm out of my fix, but I think there is still a problem  
>> somewhere in quota processing. If you need more data points, let  
>> me know.
>>
>> Best
>> -r
> So was this user the owner of the domain, or a separate mailbox  
> account?
not the owner. Just a mailbox account.
--r

Russ Ferriday - Topia Systems - Open Source content management with  
Plone and Zope
ru...@to... - office: +44 2076 1777588 - mobile: +44 7789 338868  
- skype: ferriday
a member of
Zea Partners

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - LookslikeaQuota problem.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 12:19 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<br /><div><div>On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:47, Jamie Cameron wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline" /><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; -x-border-x-spacing: 0px; -x-border-y-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><i style=3D"font-style: italic;"><i style=3D"font-style: italic;"><span style=3D"font-style: italic;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you could SSH in as the user and run the command :</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span style=3D"font-style: italic;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">quota -v</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span style=3D"font-style: italic;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">Let me 
 know what that outputs..</span><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><br style=3D"font-style: italic;" /><span style=3D"font-style: italic;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"> - Jamie</span></i></i></span></blockquote></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>-bash-3.00$ quota -v</div><div>Disk quotas for user yaddayadda (uid 516): </div><div>     Filesystem  blocks   quota   limit   grace   files   quota   limit   grace</div><div>      /dev/hda3   13080*   5120       0    none      20       0       0        </div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Currently total, and admin are set for 200MB and 100MB resp.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Disk space used (including sub-servers)</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 
 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Space used by databases</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)</span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>If I give unlimited quota, in the VS page, no change.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>BUT, I went to the Mail and FTP user page and noticed the user had local dir quota of 5MB, but used 13MB. So when I gave the user 40MB, and do my test again, it works!</div><div>AND, when I put the user back to 5MB (thi
 s bears on his home directory as I read it) even though he still has 13MB &quot;used&quot;, (actually his home dir is practically empty most of his data is in svn, </div><div>-bash-3.00$ du -sh .</div><div>20K     .</div><div>)</div><div>the problem does not come back!</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>SO raising his person quota temporarily and putting back again solved the problem &quot;permanently&quot;.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>There's more to quota than meets the eye.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>So, I'm out of my fix, but I think there is still a problem somewhere in quota processing. If you need more data points, let me know.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Best </div><div>-r</div></blockquote>So was this user the owner of the domain, or a separate mailbox account?<br /><br />=A0- Jamie<br /><br />

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - Looks likeaQuota problem.

[Russ F. <ru...@to...>]

On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:47, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you could  
> SSH in as the user and run the command :
> quota -v
> Let me know what that outputs..
>
>  - Jamie

-bash-3.00$ quota -v
Disk quotas for user yaddayadda (uid 516):
      Filesystem  blocks   quota   limit   grace   files   quota    
limit   grace
       /dev/hda3   13080*   5120       0    none      20       0       0

Currently total, and admin are set for 200MB and 100MB resp.
Disk space used (including sub-servers)
44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)
Space used by databases
8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)


If I give unlimited quota, in the VS page, no change.

BUT, I went to the Mail and FTP user page and noticed the user had  
local dir quota of 5MB, but used 13MB. So when I gave the user 40MB,  
and do my test again, it works!
AND, when I put the user back to 5MB (this bears on his home  
directory as I read it) even though he still has 13MB "used",  
(actually his home dir is practically empty most of his data is in svn,
-bash-3.00$ du -sh .
20K     .
)
the problem does not come back!

SO raising his person quota temporarily and putting back again solved  
the problem "permanently".

There's more to quota than meets the eye.

So, I'm out of my fix, but I think there is still a problem somewhere  
in quota processing. If you need more data points, let me know.

Best
-r

Russ Ferriday - Topia Systems - Open Source content management with  
Plone and Zope
ru...@to... - office: +44 2076 1777588 - mobile: +44 7789 338868  
- skype: ferriday
a member of
Zea Partners

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - Looks likeaQuota problem.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 11:41 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<br /><div><div>On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:28, Jamie Cameron wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline" /><blockquote type=3D"cite"> On 26/Feb/2007 05:53 Russ Ferriday wrote .. <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;">I like Webmin - what a great product! Thanks to all who contribute to it!</div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">On a virtualmin virtual server I have an svn service running in svn+ssh mode.</span></font></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color:
  transparent;">When I - the admin for the server -  run the svn client against that service, I have no problems. </span></font></div><div id=3D" sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">But others are getting:</span></font></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal;"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">    svn: Can't find a temporary directory</span></font></span></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px;">Some research on that, and perusing the SVN source, shows me that several likely tmp locations are tested and are not writeable.</div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13
 px;">This smells like quota!</div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal;"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">So I logged in as one of those normal users and did this:</span></font></span></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">    % date &gt; /tmp/testsvn</span></font></div><div>date: write error: Disk quota exceeded</div><div><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent;">    date: write error: Disk quota exceeded</span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><b>So it's definitely quota!</b></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Trouble is, the quota was 100MB, and only 44MB w
 ere used. </div><div>I've increased quota for the server by 100MB and still no joy. I've run the quota checks, and I've validated all virtual servers. I've turned off quota on the VS. I've click ed &quot;Recheck and refresh configuration&quot;. Related to quota it said: <ul><li style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 13px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">User quotas are enabled for home and email directories, but group quotas are not. Total virtual server quotas will not be enforced.</span></font></li></ul></div><div>Between each test, I've logged out from the normal user account and logged in again.</div><div>My testing consists of running <i /></div><i><div><i>  % date &gt; /tmp/testsvn </i></div><div>since this is clearly not an svn problem. </div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>I've exhausted the easy tests. I'd like some suggestions on what to try next, either from Jam
 ie or other users.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>--r</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">From Webmin Start page</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Operating system</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">CentOS Linux 4.2</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Webmin version</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">1.320<
 /span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><br class=3D"khtml-block-p laceholder" /></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 15px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">From Edit Server page</span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Total server quota</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">200MB</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" 
 class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Server administrator's quota</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"He lvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">100MB<b /></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Disk space used (including sub-servers)</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Space used by databases</b></span></font></div><div style=3
 D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-serve rs)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13.3px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 16px;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">Disk Usage page<br /></span></div><table width=3D"375" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" style=3D"padding: 2px 0px; width: 375px; empty-cells: hide;"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; p
 adding: 0px 2px; width: 119px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Allowed disk quota</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 64px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">200 MB</span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 136px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Disk space used</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 38px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D
 "font-size: 13.3px;">44 MB</span></font></div></td></tr><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 119px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetic a" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Size of databases</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 64px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">8192 bytes</span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 136px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;"><b>Percent of quota used</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 38px;"><div style=3D"
 margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;">21%</span></font></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10px; color: black;"><font size=3D"3" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">Disk Quotas</span></span></font></div><div id=3D"sig" style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10px; color: black;"><font size=3D"3" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">/  | New Linux Native Filesystem | User quotas active</span></font></di
 v></i></div><i /></blockquote><i><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Hi Russ,<br />Did you try increasing the <span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Server administrator's quota</span> too?  That also applies in this case..<br />Also, is /tmp perhaps on a different filesystem? You can see this in the Disk and Network Filesystems module.<br /><br /> - Jamie<br /><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></span></i></blockquote></div>Thanks, Jamie.<div>Yes, I did try Server Admin's quota. Tried raising it, and turning off both quotas.</div><div>And /tmp is on the / filesystem. <span><i>Disk and Network Filesystems module <span style=3D"font-style: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"> tells me that, and here to confirm</span><span style=3D"font-style: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">:</span></i></span></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>% cd /tmp</div><div>% df .</div><div>Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Us
 e% Mounted on</div><div>/dev/hda3            113267944  71764128  35750140  67% /</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>So no leads there.</div><div>Is there something I need to do to activate the quota, apart from saving the settings for the VS?</div><div>I've saved and then logged in afresh. Should I do something more?</div><div>--r</div></blockquote>Just to make sure that the quota is really being used, you could SSH in as the user and run the command :<br />quota -v<br />Let me know what that outputs..<br /><br />=A0- Jamie<br /><br />

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - Looks like aQuota problem.

[Russ F. <ru...@to...>]

On 26 Feb 2007, at 19:28, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> On 26/Feb/2007 05:53 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
>> I like Webmin - what a great product! Thanks to all who contribute  
>> to it!
>>
>> On a virtualmin virtual server I have an svn service running in svn 
>> +ssh mode.
>> When I - the admin for the server - run the svn client against  
>> that service, I have no problems.
>> But others are getting:
>> svn: Can't find a temporary directory
>> Some research on that, and perusing the SVN source, shows me that  
>> several likely tmp locations are tested and are not writeable.
>> This smells like quota!
>> So I logged in as one of those normal users and did this:
>> % date > /tmp/testsvn
>> date: write error: Disk quota exceeded
>> date: write error: Disk quota exceeded
>>
>> So it's definitely quota!
>>
>> Trouble is, the quota was 100MB, and only 44MB were used.
>> I've increased quota for the server by 100MB and still no joy.  
>> I've run the quota checks, and I've validated all virtual servers.  
>> I've turned off quota on the VS. I've click ed "Recheck and  
>> refresh configuration". Related to quota it said:
>> User quotas are enabled for home and email directories, but group  
>> quotas are not. Total virtual server quotas will not be enforced.
>> Between each test, I've logged out from the normal user account  
>> and logged in again.
>> My testing consists of running
>> % date > /tmp/testsvn
>> since this is clearly not an svn problem.
>>
>> I've exhausted the easy tests. I'd like some suggestions on what  
>> to try next, either from Jamie or other users.
>>
>> --r
>>
>> From Webmin Start page
>> Operating system
>> CentOS Linux 4.2
>> Webmin version
>> 1.320
>>
>> From Edit Server page
>> Total server quota
>> 200MB
>> Server administrator's quota
>> 100MB
>> Disk space used (including sub-servers)
>> 44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)
>> Space used by databases
>> 8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-serve rs)
>>
>>
>> Disk Usage page
>> Allowed disk quota
>> 200 MB
>> Disk space used
>> 44 MB
>> Size of databases
>> 8192 bytes
>> Percent of quota used
>> 21%
>>
>> Disk Quotas
>> / | New Linux Native Filesystem | User quotas active
> Hi Russ,
> Did you try increasing the Server administrator's quota too? That  
> also applies in this case..
> Also, is /tmp perhaps on a different filesystem? You can see this  
> in the Disk and Network Filesystems module.
>
>  - Jamie
>
Thanks, Jamie.
Yes, I did try Server Admin's quota. Tried raising it, and turning  
off both quotas.
And /tmp is on the / filesystem. Disk and Network Filesystems module   
tells me that, and here to confirm:

% cd /tmp
% df .
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3            113267944  71764128  35750140  67% /

So no leads there.
Is there something I need to do to activate the quota, apart from  
saving the settings for the VS?
I've saved and then logged in afresh. Should I do something more?
--r

Russ Ferriday - Topia Systems - Open Source content management with  
Plone and Zope
ru...@to... - office: +44 2076 1777588 - mobile: +44 7789 338868  
- skype: ferriday
a member of
Zea Partners

Re: [webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - Looks like aQuota problem.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 05:53 Russ Ferriday wrote ..
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig">I like Webmin - what a great product! Thanks to all who contribute to it!</div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig"><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">On a virtualmin virtual server I have an svn service running in svn+ssh mode.</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">When I - the admin for the server -  run the svn client against that service, I have no problems. </span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"
 sig"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">But others are getting:</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig"><span style=3D"line-height: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">    svn: Can't find a temporary directory</span></font></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px;" id=3D"sig">Some research on that, and perusing the SVN source, shows me that several likely tmp locations are tested and are not writeable.</div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig">This smells like quota!</div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px;" id=3D"sig"><span style=3D"line-height: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><font color=3D"#000000" class=3
 D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">So I logged in as one of those normal users and did this:</span></font></span></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">    % date &gt; /tmp/testsvn</span></font></div><div>date: write error: Disk quota exceeded</div><div><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">    date: write error: Disk quota exceeded</span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><b>So it's definitely quota!</b></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>Trouble is, the quota was 100MB, and only 44MB were used. </div><div>I've increased quota for the server by 100MB and still no joy. I've run the quota checks, and I've validated all virtual servers. I've turned off quota on the VS. I've click
 ed &quot;Recheck and refresh configuration&quot;. Related to quota it said: <ul><li style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 13px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">User quotas are enabled for home and email directories, but group quotas are not. Total virtual server quotas will not be enforced.</span></font></li></ul></div><div>Between each test, I've logged out from the normal user account and logged in again.</div><div>My testing consists of running <i /></div><div><i>  % date &gt; /tmp/testsvn </i></div><div>since this is clearly not an svn problem. </div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>I've exhausted the easy tests. I'd like some suggestions on what to try next, either from Jamie or other users.</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div>--r</div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"
 Apple-style-span">From Webmin Start page</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Operating system</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">CentOS Linux 4.2</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Webmin version</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">1.320</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><br class=3D"khtml-block-p
 laceholder" /></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" style=3D"font-size: 15px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">From Edit Server page</span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Total server quota</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">200MB</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Server administrator's quota</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"He
 lvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">100MB<b /></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Disk space used (including sub-servers)</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Space used by databases</b></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-serve
 rs)</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></span></font></div><div><br class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13.3px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 16px;"><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">Disk Usage page<br /></span></div><table width=3D"375" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" style=3D"padding: 2px 0px; width: 375px; empty-cells: hide;"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 119px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Allowed disk 
 quota</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 64px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">200 MB</span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 136px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Disk space used</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 38px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">44 MB</span></font></div></td></tr><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 119px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetic
 a" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Size of databases</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 64px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">8192 bytes</span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 136px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><b>Percent of quota used</b></span></font></div></td><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"margin: 0px 0.5px; padding: 0px 2px; width: 38px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><font size=3D"4" face=3D"Helvetica" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3px;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">21%</span></font></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br class
 =3D"khtml-block-placeholder" /></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10px; color: black;" id=3D"sig"><font size=3D"3" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">Disk Quotas</span></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 4px 0px; padding: 2px 4px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10px; color: black;" id=3D"sig"><font size=3D"3" class=3D"Apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;" class=3D"Apple-style-span">/  | New Linux Native Filesystem | User quotas active</span></font></div></div></blockquote><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Hi Russ,<br />Did you try increasing the <span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Server administrator's quota</span> too?
  That also applies in this case..<br />Also, is /tmp perhaps on a different filesystem? You can see this in the Disk and Network Filesystems module.<br /><br />=A0- Jamie<br /><br /></span>

Re: [webmin-l] Module > Target App Version determination

[Charles M. <tan...@li...>]

> Oh, I agree that they definately improved the Dovecot functionality.
> My complaint was that they change the config file format without really
> adding much to it..

Thats what it sounded like. I never had the pleasure of using dovecot 
before about rc7, so can't speak intelligently about the changes...

>> One follow-up - what is the recommended procedure for reporting missing
>> config options and/or bugs?

> Email me directly, or file a bug at http://www.webmin.com/bugs.html

Thanks again - webmin looks really neat - wish I'd tried it sooner...

Re: [webmin-l] Module > Target App Version determination

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 26/Feb/2007 04:08 Charles Marcus wrote ..
> > You can generally assume that all released versions of the server
> > managed by Webmin are supported, as I try to keep up to date with new
> > releases of Apache, Squid, Samba and so on. In the case of Dovecot,
> > the new 1.0 config file format is fully supported.
> 
> Great, thanks!
> 
> > Actually, that took quite a bit of effort, as for reasons unknown to
> > me the Dovecot developers changed their format substantially between
> > 0.99 and 1.0alpha and 1.0 (without really improving it, IMHO).
> 
> I'm not sure if you mean improving the 'format', or the *functionality*
> - but I can assure you, the functionality/performance is *dramatically*
> improved over the 0.99/1.0alpha series...

Oh, I agree that they definately improved the Dovecot functionality.
My complaint was that they change the config file format without really
adding much to it..

> Dovecot is well on its way to being a cyrus killer, though it does 
> definitely have a way to go. Full shared folder support (with full 
> support for Client manipulation of them), as well as single-instance 
> storage is on the radar for 2.0, and with the release of 1.0 final 
> imminent, this will happen sooner than later.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for the good news that webmin fully supports the latest
> version...
> 
> One follow-up - what is the recommended procedure for reporting missing
> config options and/or bugs?

Email me directly, or file a bug at http://www.webmin.com/bugs.html

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] Usermin--> Compose Mail and Mac OS9

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

Ok I checked in with my people this morning.  It appears that when this 
happens IE out right crashes and freezes.  The mail never makes it to 
the SMTP port of the server it appears.  Users then have to force quite IE.
-Jesse


Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 23/Feb/2007 17:27 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>   
>> Hello all once again.
>>
>> Hay I recently upgraded to Usermin 1.25 Monday night and now have a few
>> users coming to me saying that when they attach documents to an email 
>> all is well until they click to send the email.  At that point a little
>> box pops up and says something about an error "@uptracker".  They tell
>> me the box is grayed and weird looking which being OS9 no surprise there.
>>
>> I looked on the server and basically for every user who reported this 
>> today I noticed 1 line in the running processes:
>> /usr/local/usermin-1.250/uptracker.cgi
>>
>> Never quits or times out.  Just keeps running.
>>
>> Any Ideas?  The clients BTW are Mac OS 9.2.2 using IE 5.1.7.  I have not
>> been able to replicate this issue on any OS X or Windows machines as of
>> currently.  This is a new one to me.  I know over the last few months IE
>> on the Mac is having more and more problems with websites, but 
>> unfortunately 5.1.7 was the last version by Microsoft and to my 
>> knowledge the latest browser for OS9 period....
>>     
>
> You may be running into a new feature in Usermin for showing a progress
> bar during large file uploads, such as when attaching a file to an email.
> Does this prevent email from being sent?
>
>  - Jamie
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[webmin-l] svn: Can't find a temporary directory - Looks like a Quota problem.

[Russ F. <ru...@to...>]

I like Webmin - what a great product! Thanks to all who contribute to  
it!

On a virtualmin virtual server I have an svn service running in svn 
+ssh mode.
When I - the admin for the server -  run the svn client against that  
service, I have no problems.
But others are getting:
     svn: Can't find a temporary directory
Some research on that, and perusing the SVN source, shows me that  
several likely tmp locations are tested and are not writeable.
This smells like quota!
So I logged in as one of those normal users and did this:
     % date > /tmp/testsvn
date: write error: Disk quota exceeded
     date: write error: Disk quota exceeded

So it's definitely quota!

Trouble is, the quota was 100MB, and only 44MB were used.
I've increased quota for the server by 100MB and still no joy. I've  
run the quota checks, and I've validated all virtual servers. I've  
turned off quota on the VS. I've clicked "Recheck and refresh  
configuration". Related to quota it said:
User quotas are enabled for home and email directories, but group  
quotas are not. Total virtual server quotas will not be enforced.
Between each test, I've logged out from the normal user account and  
logged in again.
My testing consists of running
   % date > /tmp/testsvn
since this is clearly not an svn problem.

I've exhausted the easy tests. I'd like some suggestions on what to  
try next, either from Jamie or other users.

--r

 From Webmin Start page
Operating system
CentOS Linux 4.2
Webmin version
1.320

 From Edit Server page
Total server quota
200MB
Server administrator's quota
100MB
Disk space used (including sub-servers)
44 MB (752 kB by Unix user, 44 MB by mail / FTP users)
Space used by databases
8192 bytes (8192 bytes in this server, 0 bytes in sub-servers)


Disk Usage page
Allowed disk quota
200 MB
Disk space used
44 MB
Size of databases
8192 bytes
Percent of quota used
21%

Disk Quotas
/  | New Linux Native Filesystem | User quotas active


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Re: [webmin-l] Module > Target App Version determination

[Charles M. <tan...@li...>]

> You can generally assume that all released versions of the server
> managed by Webmin are supported, as I try to keep up to date with new
> releases of Apache, Squid, Samba and so on. In the case of Dovecot,
> the new 1.0 config file format is fully supported.

Great, thanks!

> Actually, that took quite a bit of effort, as for reasons unknown to 
> me the Dovecot developers changed their format substantially between 
> 0.99 and 1.0alpha and 1.0 (without really improving it, IMHO).

I'm not sure if you mean improving the 'format', or the *functionality* 
- but I can assure you, the functionality/performance is *dramatically* 
improved over the 0.99/1.0alpha series...

Dovecot is well on its way to being a cyrus killer, though it does 
definitely have a way to go. Full shared folder support (with full 
support for Client manipulation of them), as well as single-instance 
storage is on the radar for 2.0, and with the release of 1.0 final 
imminent, this will happen sooner than later.

Anyway, thanks for the good news that webmin fully supports the latest 
version...

One follow-up - what is the recommended procedure for reporting missing 
config options and/or bugs?

Thanks again,

Charles

Re: [webmin-l] LDAP Users and Groups module performance

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 25/Feb/2007 22:19 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:27 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > On 21/Jan/2007 16:11 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > > On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 00:23 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > > On 18/Jan/2007 22:46 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > > > > Hi Jamie
> > > > > 
> > > > > We now have over 1000 users we manage with the LDAP Users module.
> > > I
> > > > > have noticed lately that it is becoming very slow bringing up the
> > > > > initial screen.  I can imagine things only getting worse as the
> > > > > directory gets larger.  I haven't checked the queries My guess
> is that
> > > > > the module tries to search the LDAP directory for the whole list
> of
> > > > > users, then after realising there are too many, it then says there
> > > are
> > > > > too many to display and fails.  Even if I set the maximum number
> of
> > > > > users or groups to display to 0 or 1 it still takes a fair few
> seconds
> > > > > to display the opening screen.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > The recommed method is to process each LDAP user entry one at a
> time
> > > as
> > > > > they are returned. The module would stop when it reached the limit
> > > of
> > > > > users for that page which could be a configuration value.  The
> module
> > > > > appears to be using the NET::LDAP library.  I had a look at the
> > > > > documentation below and they recommend processing each entry as
> it
> > > is
> > > > > returned:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/perl-ldap-0.33/lib/Net/LDAP/FAQ.pod#USING_THE_CALLBACK_SUBROUTINE_APPROACH
> > > > > 
> > > > > If we want 100 users to be displayed on the page we print the first
> > > 100
> > > > > entries then quit.  If we want users 100-200 we would ignore the
> first
> > > > > hundred entries and print the second hundred, and so on.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hope the above idea has merit and its possible for you to implement
> > > at
> > > > > some stage.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, that is what the module already does. The main page does
> an
> > > > LDAP search for matching users, and then checks the number of results
> > > available.
> > > > If this is higher than the maximum set on the Module Config page,
> it
> > > just
> > > > displays the search form without fetching the full user list.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, for this to be useful I assume that the LDAP server doesn't
> > > > fetch users from it's database until actually asked to..
> > > > 
> > > >  - Jamie
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > If it does things in the sequential manner then I am not sure why it
> is
> > > so slow for me.  There is nothing wrong with the performance of the
> ldap
> > > server.  I can do an ldapsearch from a client machine and dump the
> whole
> > > list of users into a text file in less than a second.  Going into the
> > > first ldap users and groups screen with the list of users takes > 10
> > > secs even with the amount of users to display set to 0. I am not sure
> > > where the bottleneck in performance is?
> > 
> > I took another look at the code for this module, and it seems that even
> > though Webmin just calls the Net::LDAP module's search function, this
> > takes a long time to respond on large LDAP databases even though no
> > actual results are requested!
> > 
> > However, I managed to find another way to reduce the search size, by
> > specifying a maximum result size to the LDAP server. This will go into
> > the next (1.330) Webmin release.
> > 
> >  - Jamie
> 
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> I noticed that you had added the fix above to the 1.328 version.  I
> downloaded it and tested it.  It displays the initial list of
> users/groups immediately if it exceeds the limit for the page.  Thanks
> for your work on that - it will improve things a lot in our setup.

Excellent .. glad to hear that solved it.

> I noticed there is now a different Webmin theme by default.  I tried
> changing to the previous theme and couldn't find it.  All the themes I
> chose appeared the same to me.  I couldn't change back to the new
> default theme either.  Not sure the new theme stuff is right?

Did you use the Change Language and Theme module to switch themes? If 
you change the global setting in the Webmin Configuration module, it
can still be over-ridden on a per-user basis by the former module..

 - Jamie

Re: [webmin-l] LDAP Users and Groups module performance

[Murray T. <mtr...@ce...>]

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:27 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 21/Jan/2007 16:11 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 00:23 -0800, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > > On 18/Jan/2007 22:46 Murray Trainer wrote ..
> > > > Hi Jamie
> > > > 
> > > > We now have over 1000 users we manage with the LDAP Users module. 
> > I
> > > > have noticed lately that it is becoming very slow bringing up the
> > > > initial screen.  I can imagine things only getting worse as the
> > > > directory gets larger.  I haven't checked the queries My guess is that
> > > > the module tries to search the LDAP directory for the whole list of
> > > > users, then after realising there are too many, it then says there
> > are
> > > > too many to display and fails.  Even if I set the maximum number of
> > > > users or groups to display to 0 or 1 it still takes a fair few seconds
> > > > to display the opening screen.  
> > > > 
> > > > The recommed method is to process each LDAP user entry one at a time
> > as
> > > > they are returned. The module would stop when it reached the limit
> > of
> > > > users for that page which could be a configuration value.  The module
> > > > appears to be using the NET::LDAP library.  I had a look at the
> > > > documentation below and they recommend processing each entry as it
> > is
> > > > returned:  
> > > > 
> > > > http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/perl-ldap-0.33/lib/Net/LDAP/FAQ.pod#USING_THE_CALLBACK_SUBROUTINE_APPROACH
> > > > 
> > > > If we want 100 users to be displayed on the page we print the first
> > 100
> > > > entries then quit.  If we want users 100-200 we would ignore the first
> > > > hundred entries and print the second hundred, and so on.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope the above idea has merit and its possible for you to implement
> > at
> > > > some stage.
> > > 
> > > Actually, that is what the module already does. The main page does an
> > > LDAP search for matching users, and then checks the number of results
> > available.
> > > If this is higher than the maximum set on the Module Config page, it
> > just
> > > displays the search form without fetching the full user list.
> > > 
> > > Of course, for this to be useful I assume that the LDAP server doesn't
> > > fetch users from it's database until actually asked to..
> > > 
> > >  - Jamie
> > > 
> > 
> > If it does things in the sequential manner then I am not sure why it is
> > so slow for me.  There is nothing wrong with the performance of the ldap
> > server.  I can do an ldapsearch from a client machine and dump the whole
> > list of users into a text file in less than a second.  Going into the
> > first ldap users and groups screen with the list of users takes > 10
> > secs even with the amount of users to display set to 0. I am not sure
> > where the bottleneck in performance is?
> 
> I took another look at the code for this module, and it seems that even
> though Webmin just calls the Net::LDAP module's search function, this
> takes a long time to respond on large LDAP databases even though no
> actual results are requested!
> 
> However, I managed to find another way to reduce the search size, by
> specifying a maximum result size to the LDAP server. This will go into
> the next (1.330) Webmin release.
> 
>  - Jamie

Hi Jamie,

I noticed that you had added the fix above to the 1.328 version.  I
downloaded it and tested it.  It displays the initial list of
users/groups immediately if it exceeds the limit for the page.  Thanks
for your work on that - it will improve things a lot in our setup.

I noticed there is now a different Webmin theme by default.  I tried
changing to the previous theme and couldn't find it.  All the themes I
chose appeared the same to me.  I couldn't change back to the new
default theme either.  Not sure the new theme stuff is right?

Regards

Murray  

Re: [webmin-l] Usermin--> Compose Mail and Mac OS9

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

Will check with my OS9 people tomorrow and get back to you on this one.  
I think they said it doesn't send it all, but let me make sure.
-Jesse


Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On 23/Feb/2007 17:27 Jesse C. Smillie wrote ..
>   
>> Hello all once again.
>>
>> Hay I recently upgraded to Usermin 1.25 Monday night and now have a few
>> users coming to me saying that when they attach documents to an email 
>> all is well until they click to send the email.  At that point a little
>> box pops up and says something about an error "@uptracker".  They tell
>> me the box is grayed and weird looking which being OS9 no surprise there.
>>
>> I looked on the server and basically for every user who reported this 
>> today I noticed 1 line in the running processes:
>> /usr/local/usermin-1.250/uptracker.cgi
>>
>> Never quits or times out.  Just keeps running.
>>
>> Any Ideas?  The clients BTW are Mac OS 9.2.2 using IE 5.1.7.  I have not
>> been able to replicate this issue on any OS X or Windows machines as of
>> currently.  This is a new one to me.  I know over the last few months IE
>> on the Mac is having more and more problems with websites, but 
>> unfortunately 5.1.7 was the last version by Microsoft and to my 
>> knowledge the latest browser for OS9 period....
>>     
>
> You may be running into a new feature in Usermin for showing a progress
> bar during large file uploads, such as when attaching a file to an email.
> Does this prevent email from being sent?
>
>  - Jamie
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Re: [webmin-l] Webmin Moule Update

[Terry A. <hm...@oz...>]

>On 25/Feb/2007 12:24 Terry Allen wrote ..
>>  Hi again,
>>	While checking the latest module updates, I wanted to ask
>>  about module updates in Webmin - I am running the latest version of
>>  Webmin (under OSX 10.4.8) & when checking the updates, I selected to
>>  check for module updates, which indicated that there were 3 core
>>  modules & one non-core (Virtualmin GPL) which had updates available.
>>	Webmin found & listed these updates, but didn't actually
>>  update them. Is this section only to tell us that they need updating?
>>  I can install them by pasting the address into the install modules
>>  area of Webmin configuration, but they are never auto-updated. Is
>>  this something I have missed configuring? Thanks for any clues.
>
>Are you sure you didn't have the box to 'Only show which modules would
>be updated' checked?
>
>  - Jamie
Hi again,
	I suspect I was just having a shocker - I hadn't even seen 
that checkbox - have already updated, but will check it again next 
update time. Many thanks.
-- 

	Bye for now, Terry Allen 
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Re: [webmin-l] Module > Target App Version determination

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 25/Feb/2007 17:40 Charles Marcus wrote ..
> Hello,
> 
> I'm new to webmin and to the list, but I have a question...
> 
> For the Standard modules, where/how do I determine what version of the
> target application is supported?
> 
> For example, I am interested in what version of dovecot is supported by
> the current webmin module... how do I know? Dovecot has changed
> dramatically from the days of the 1.0alpha version, but that is th emost
> recent version specifically mentioned in the Changelog, even though it
> was last update in January of this year...

You can generally assume that all released versions of the server managed
by Webmin are supported, as I try to keep up to date with new releases of
Apache, Squid, Samba and so on. In the case of Dovecot, the new 1.0 config
file format is fully supported. Actually, that took quite a bit of effort,
as for reasons unknown to me the Dovecot developers changed their format
substantially between 0.99 and 1.0alpha and 1.0 (without really improving
it, IMHO).

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Module > Target App Version determination

[Charles M. <tan...@li...>]

Hello,

I'm new to webmin and to the list, but I have a question...

For the Standard modules, where/how do I determine what version of the
target application is supported?

For example, I am interested in what version of dovecot is supported by
the current webmin module... how do I know? Dovecot has changed
dramatically from the days of the 1.0alpha version, but that is th emost
recent version specifically mentioned in the Changelog, even though it
was last update in January of this year...

Thanks, and I look forward to learning how webmin can make my remote
administration needs simpler...

Charles

Re: [webmin-l] Webmin Moule Update

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 25/Feb/2007 12:24 Terry Allen wrote ..
> Hi again,
> 	While checking the latest module updates, I wanted to ask 
> about module updates in Webmin - I am running the latest version of 
> Webmin (under OSX 10.4.8) & when checking the updates, I selected to 
> check for module updates, which indicated that there were 3 core 
> modules & one non-core (Virtualmin GPL) which had updates available.
> 	Webmin found & listed these updates, but didn't actually 
> update them. Is this section only to tell us that they need updating? 
> I can install them by pasting the address into the install modules 
> area of Webmin configuration, but they are never auto-updated. Is 
> this something I have missed configuring? Thanks for any clues.

Are you sure you didn't have the box to 'Only show which modules would
be updated' checked?

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Webmin Moule Update

[Terry A. <hm...@oz...>]

Hi again,
	While checking the latest module updates, I wanted to ask 
about module updates in Webmin - I am running the latest version of 
Webmin (under OSX 10.4.8) & when checking the updates, I selected to 
check for module updates, which indicated that there were 3 core 
modules & one non-core (Virtualmin GPL) which had updates available.
	Webmin found & listed these updates, but didn't actually 
update them. Is this section only to tell us that they need updating? 
I can install them by pasting the address into the install modules 
area of Webmin configuration, but they are never auto-updated. Is 
this something I have missed configuring? Thanks for any clues.
-- 

	Bye for now, Terry Allen 
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