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[webmin-l] Out of Office

[Marsha P. <mp...@na...>]

Out of the office from 4/6/17 to 4/16/17.  Also, I will not be checking email.  Marsha

Re: [webmin-l] Use spamc instead of sa-learn for spamtrap

[Michael H. <mi...@hu...>]

I think this is relatively new.  spamc can now report -C or learn -L. 
And with the spamd -Q -x options each user can have their own per-user
whitelist, etc. within the db.  Roundcube with markasjunk2 using spamc
has been a godsend, but not everyone uses it with email on every
handheld device. 

Thoughts? 

Cheers, 

mph

On 2017-04-10 22:52, Jamie Cameron wrote:

> On 10/Apr/2017 21:59 Michael Huntley <mi...@hu...> wrote .. 
> 
>> Would it be possible to use spamc to learn spam instead of using
>> sa-learn for spamtrap addresses? sa-learn has always been a CPU hog and
>> using spamc makes it easy for one to off-load to another device....
> 
> Are they really equivalent though - I thought spamc was just for
> processing spam with a remote spamd, and didn't have the ability to
> update the per-user data files for spam learning. 
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Re: [webmin-l] Use spamc instead of sa-learn for spamtrap

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 10/Apr/2017 21:59 Michael Huntley <mi...@hu...> wrote ..
> Would it be possible to use spamc to learn spam instead of using
> sa-learn for spamtrap addresses? sa-learn has always been a CPU hog and
> using spamc makes it easy for one to off-load to another device.... 

Are they really equivalent though - I thought spamc was just for
processing spam with a remote spamd, and didn't have the ability to
update the per-user data files for spam learning.
 

[webmin-l] Use spamc instead of sa-learn for spamtrap

[Michael H. <mi...@hu...>]

Would it be possible to use spamc to learn spam instead of using
sa-learn for spamtrap addresses? sa-learn has always been a CPU hog and
using spamc makes it easy for one to off-load to another device.... 

Cheers! 

mph

Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin external quota command

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 10/Apr/2017 02:47 Mátyás Csere <cs...@gm...> wrote ..
> Hello!
> 
> I am toying with the idea of switching to ZFS from ext4 on our Virtualmin
> server.
> It's in plain sight, that ZFS uses it's own commands for managing quota, so
> I will have to implement a wrapper script for it.
> 
> I see that for example 'config_quota_set_user_command' (but the same goes
> for the other quota commands too) requires 3 paramteres: username, soft
> quota, hard quota in 1kB blocks.
> What is not clear to me, on what filesystem (mount point) is this executed?
> Is there a 4th option passed, or its ment to be interpreted for all the
> filesystems I want to manage quota settings on?

The filesystem is never passed as a parameter for these commands - Virtualmin just
assumes that the command knows which filesystem users have their quotas on.

[webmin-l] Out of Office

[Marsha P. <mp...@na...>]

Out of the office from 4/6/17 to 4/16/17.  Also, I will not be checking email.  Marsha

[webmin-l] virtualmin external quota command

[Mátyás C. <cs...@gm...>]

Hello!

I am toying with the idea of switching to ZFS from ext4 on our Virtualmin
server.
It's in plain sight, that ZFS uses it's own commands for managing quota, so
I will have to implement a wrapper script for it.

I see that for example 'config_quota_set_user_command' (but the same goes
for the other quota commands too) requires 3 paramteres: username, soft
quota, hard quota in 1kB blocks.
What is not clear to me, on what filesystem (mount point) is this executed?
Is there a 4th option passed, or its ment to be interpreted for all the
filesystems I want to manage quota settings on?

Thanks
cserem

[webmin-l] UI improvement for SSL certificates usage

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

can we have different UI here: https://www.screencast.com/t/Jskyqnidw ?

the five buttons "copy to.." webmin/usemin/dovecat etc. lead away from the
page, the back button doesn't work (as everywhere), it's a pain.

almost every time on this page you want to use a certificate for all of
these things, so, please give us a "use for all"  button or a table with
checkmarks and a "select all" checkbox.
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Re: [webmin-l] webmin and letsencrypt without webserver?

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

The latest release of Webmin supports DNS-based validation for
Let's Encrypt certificate requests.

On 27/Mar/2017 22:29 Joaquim Homrighausen <jo...@we...> wrote ..
> 
> +1
> 
> I probably missed the response on this one, but ran into this yesterday 
> when setting up a new server with Webmin.
> 
> 
> -joho
> 
> 
> 
> Den 02/20/2017 kl. 06:22 PM, skrev Pat Erler:
> > hi,
> >
> > is it possible to request a letsencrypt certificat on a webmin server 
> > without a webserver? if yes, what should go here?
> > https://www.screencast.com/t/w7B20se75
> > -- 
> 
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Re: [webmin-l] webmin and letsencrypt without webserver?

[Joaquim H. <jo...@we...>]

+1

I probably missed the response on this one, but ran into this yesterday 
when setting up a new server with Webmin.


-joho



Den 02/20/2017 kl. 06:22 PM, skrev Pat Erler:
> hi,
>
> is it possible to request a letsencrypt certificat on a webmin server 
> without a webserver? if yes, what should go here?
> https://www.screencast.com/t/w7B20se75
> -- 

Re: [webmin-l] webmin uses HSTS?

[Galen J. <Gal...@sa...>]

If you are using Chrome, you can remove the domain from HSTS by going to chrome://net-internals#hsts but this is temporary and will reset the next time you hit that domain.


If you want to see where it is being set, look in your web server config for a line similar to:


Header always set Strict-Transport-Security "max-age=63072000; includeSubdomains; preload"?


=G=


________________________________
From: Yehuda Katz <ye...@ym...>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:06 PM
To: Webmin users list
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] webmin uses HSTS?

You are probably getting that because the main domain uses HSTS. HSTS doesn't care that you went to a different port.
You can often go to the IP address of the machine instead to get around this.

- Y

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...<mailto:jca...@we...>> wrote:
On 27/Mar/2017 09:25 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...<mailto:pe...@gm...>> wrote ..
> I have a webmin (virtualmin actually) server which has an invalid
> certificate. normaly you click (in chrome) something like "continue
> anyways". no i get on this server:
>
> You cannot visit domain.com<http://domain.com> e at the moment because the website uses HSTS.
> Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will
> probably work late
>
> how can I disable HSTS in webmin?

We don't actually specifically do anything in Webmin to enable HSTS.

Do you have any custom ciphers set?

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Re: [webmin-l] webmin uses HSTS?

[Yehuda K. <ye...@ym...>]

You are probably getting that because the main domain uses HSTS. HSTS
doesn't care that you went to a different port.
You can often go to the IP address of the machine instead to get around
this.

- Y

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Jamie Cameron <jca...@we...> wrote:

> On 27/Mar/2017 09:25 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote ..
> > I have a webmin (virtualmin actually) server which has an invalid
> > certificate. normaly you click (in chrome) something like "continue
> > anyways". no i get on this server:
> >
> > You cannot visit domain.com e at the moment because the website uses
> HSTS.
> > Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will
> > probably work late
> >
> > how can I disable HSTS in webmin?
>
> We don't actually specifically do anything in Webmin to enable HSTS.
>
> Do you have any custom ciphers set?
>
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Re: [webmin-l] webmin uses HSTS?

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 27/Mar/2017 09:25 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote ..
> I have a webmin (virtualmin actually) server which has an invalid
> certificate. normaly you click (in chrome) something like "continue
> anyways". no i get on this server:
> 
> You cannot visit domain.com e at the moment because the website uses HSTS.
> Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will
> probably work late
> 
> how can I disable HSTS in webmin?

We don't actually specifically do anything in Webmin to enable HSTS.

Do you have any custom ciphers set?

[webmin-l] webmin uses HSTS?

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

I have a webmin (virtualmin actually) server which has an invalid
certificate. normaly you click (in chrome) something like "continue
anyways". no i get on this server:

You cannot visit domain.com e at the moment because the website uses HSTS.
Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will
probably work late

how can I disable HSTS in webmin?
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Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin, putting files into newly created domain's public_html

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

ok, I tried this and it didn't work.

root@server:~# ls -R  /etc/skel

/etc/skel:
public_html

/etc/skel/public_html:
index.php
root@server:~# ls -R /home/domain/domains/test123.domain.com//public_html/
/home/domain/domains/test123.domain.com//public_html/:


On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:11 AM Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote:

> thanks, that's what I was looking for :-)
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, 01:00 Jamie Cameron, <jca...@we...> wrote:
>
> On 22/Mar/2017 04:30 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote ..
> > Andrey, we talked about this. If you don't have anything useful to say,
> > please don't say anything.
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 12:24 Andrey Repin, <anr...@ya...> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, Pat Erler!
> > >
> > > > is there a way to put some files into newly created domain's
> public_html
> > > > folders? something like /etc/skel but for website?
> > >
> > > You can do anything you want with event scripting.
>
> I think what Andrey was suggesting was to use the post-domain-creation
> script feature to copy in files.
>
> However, there is a simpler solution - just create /etc/skel/public_html
> and
> put any files you want copied to new domains in there.
>
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Re: [webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

thanks for the clarification!

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, 21:49 Joe Cooper, <jo...@vi...> wrote:

> Nope. That's why it confuses people. That feature is just for "virtual"
> FTP sites, which devotes an IP to the FTP server. You don't need it. Nobody
> needs it. It's a vestigial feature.
>
> On 3/23/2017 1:08 PM, Pat Erler wrote:
>
> doesn't ProFTPd Virtual FTP disable all ftp functionality?
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM Joe Cooper <jo...@vi...> wrote:
>
> I believe if you disable it in Features and Plugins (ProFTPd Virtual
> FTP), it'll disappear from everything.
>
> That reminds me, I want to talk Jamie into setting that to disabled, by
> default, because nobody ever knows what it means/does, and they enable
> it and get errors about IP addresses and get confused. And, nobody ever
> actually needs it these days. The notion of a world-facing FTP server is
> quite passe.
>
> On 3/23/2017 4:37 AM, Pat Erler wrote:
> > I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from
> > my domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone point me
> > to it?
> > --
> >
>
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Re: [webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Joe C. <jo...@vi...>]

Nope. That's why it confuses people. That feature is just for "virtual" 
FTP sites, which devotes an IP to the FTP server. You don't need it. 
Nobody needs it. It's a vestigial feature.


On 3/23/2017 1:08 PM, Pat Erler wrote:
> doesn't ProFTPd Virtual FTP disable all ftp functionality?
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM Joe Cooper <jo...@vi... 
> <mailto:jo...@vi...>> wrote:
>
>     I believe if you disable it in Features and Plugins (ProFTPd Virtual
>     FTP), it'll disappear from everything.
>
>     That reminds me, I want to talk Jamie into setting that to
>     disabled, by
>     default, because nobody ever knows what it means/does, and they enable
>     it and get errors about IP addresses and get confused. And, nobody
>     ever
>     actually needs it these days. The notion of a world-facing FTP
>     server is
>     quite passe.
>
>     On 3/23/2017 4:37 AM, Pat Erler wrote:
>     > I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from
>     > my domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone
>     point me
>     > to it?
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Re: [webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

I mean "doesn't disabling ProFTPd Virtual FTP disables all ftp
functionality?" obviously.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:08 PM Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote:

> doesn't ProFTPd Virtual FTP disable all ftp functionality?
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM Joe Cooper <jo...@vi...> wrote:
>
> I believe if you disable it in Features and Plugins (ProFTPd Virtual
> FTP), it'll disappear from everything.
>
> That reminds me, I want to talk Jamie into setting that to disabled, by
> default, because nobody ever knows what it means/does, and they enable
> it and get errors about IP addresses and get confused. And, nobody ever
> actually needs it these days. The notion of a world-facing FTP server is
> quite passe.
>
> On 3/23/2017 4:37 AM, Pat Erler wrote:
> > I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from
> > my domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone point me
> > to it?
> > --
> >
>
>
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Re: [webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

doesn't ProFTPd Virtual FTP disable all ftp functionality?

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM Joe Cooper <jo...@vi...> wrote:

> I believe if you disable it in Features and Plugins (ProFTPd Virtual
> FTP), it'll disappear from everything.
>
> That reminds me, I want to talk Jamie into setting that to disabled, by
> default, because nobody ever knows what it means/does, and they enable
> it and get errors about IP addresses and get confused. And, nobody ever
> actually needs it these days. The notion of a world-facing FTP server is
> quite passe.
>
> On 3/23/2017 4:37 AM, Pat Erler wrote:
> > I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from
> > my domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone point me
> > to it?
> > --
> >
>
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Re: [webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Joe C. <jo...@vi...>]

I believe if you disable it in Features and Plugins (ProFTPd Virtual 
FTP), it'll disappear from everything.

That reminds me, I want to talk Jamie into setting that to disabled, by 
default, because nobody ever knows what it means/does, and they enable 
it and get errors about IP addresses and get confused. And, nobody ever 
actually needs it these days. The notion of a world-facing FTP server is 
quite passe.

On 3/23/2017 4:37 AM, Pat Erler wrote:
> I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from 
> my domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone point me 
> to it?
> -- 
>

[webmin-l] disable IP based virtual ftp server

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

I would like to remove the option "IP based virtual ftp server" from my
domain template but I cannot find the option. Can someone point me to it?
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Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin, putting files into newly created domain's public_html

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

thanks, that's what I was looking for :-)

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017, 01:00 Jamie Cameron, <jca...@we...> wrote:

> On 22/Mar/2017 04:30 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote ..
> > Andrey, we talked about this. If you don't have anything useful to say,
> > please don't say anything.
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 12:24 Andrey Repin, <anr...@ya...> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, Pat Erler!
> > >
> > > > is there a way to put some files into newly created domain's
> public_html
> > > > folders? something like /etc/skel but for website?
> > >
> > > You can do anything you want with event scripting.
>
> I think what Andrey was suggesting was to use the post-domain-creation
> script feature to copy in files.
>
> However, there is a simpler solution - just create /etc/skel/public_html
> and
> put any files you want copied to new domains in there.
>
>
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Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin, putting files into newly created domain's public_html

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On 22/Mar/2017 04:30 Pat Erler <pe...@gm...> wrote ..
> Andrey, we talked about this. If you don't have anything useful to say,
> please don't say anything.
> 
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 12:24 Andrey Repin, <anr...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings, Pat Erler!
> >
> > > is there a way to put some files into newly created domain's public_html
> > > folders? something like /etc/skel but for website?
> >
> > You can do anything you want with event scripting.

I think what Andrey was suggesting was to use the post-domain-creation 
script feature to copy in files. 

However, there is a simpler solution - just create /etc/skel/public_html and
put any files you want copied to new domains in there.

Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin, putting files into newly created domain's public_html

[Andrey R. <anr...@ya...>]

Greetings, Pat Erler!


>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 12:24 Andrey Repin wrote:
>
>> Greetings, Pat Erler!
>>  
 >>> is there a way to put some files into newly created domain's public_html
 >>> folders? something like /etc/skel but for website?
>>  
>>  You can do anything you want with event scripting.

> Andrey, we talked about this. If you don't have anything useful to say, please don't say anything.

The answer do not become invalid just because you don't like it.
If you are too lazy to read documentation, I'm not the one to retype it for
you.
And given your reaction, I won't be the one to search the documentation for
you to provide a direct link.

Last, but not least, please teach your mail agent to not quote raw email
addresses in message body. Thank you in advance.


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With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Thursday, March 23, 2017 00:18:31

Sorry for my terrible english...

Re: [webmin-l] virtualmin, putting files into newly created domain's public_html

[Pat E. <pe...@gm...>]

Andrey, we talked about this. If you don't have anything useful to say,
please don't say anything.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, 12:24 Andrey Repin, <anr...@ya...> wrote:

> Greetings, Pat Erler!
>
> > is there a way to put some files into newly created domain's public_html
> > folders? something like /etc/skel but for website?
>
> You can do anything you want with event scripting.
>
>
> --
> With best regards,
> Andrey Repin
> Wednesday, March 22, 2017 13:15:18
>
> Sorry for my terrible english...
>
>
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