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From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 20:59:48
|
Definitely. This is where the user will set the language for = themselves. Theme would be cool too, although I'll bet some companies = would want to disable that one in order to have a united look everywhere = in the company. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] User Settings We could extend this to=20 -language=20 -theme Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:00 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] User Settings I have added user settings to my copy at = http://weberp.gocom.ca/weberpcvstest. The last menu option is Settings = which is the current user's settings that they can modify. There are = only two settings right now: Number of Records to Display = ($DisplayRecordsMax) and Enable Javascript ($EnableJavascript). To see, try going to Select Customer then type in "a" to search for = all records with an "a". It will page according to the user's current = settings. Now, go into Settings > User Settings and modify Number of = Records to Display. Go back to Select Customer and search on "a" again. = Notice the paging has changed to what you changed. We now have an area for users to "customize" their environment. = Adding more user settings is easy. This is assuming that Phil and = others want it in the cvs... The settings get set in session.inc by using a $_SESSION variable. = In this way the settings are always handy. When the user changes their = settings they are updated in both database and session variable so it is = on-the-fly changed. =20 Steve |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 20:40:29
|
Thanks for all the info, Dick. I will look at those other cvs clients. The only concern I would have is if it actually tries to intelligently merge code within the same file. I've seen the damage done by these types of mergers and would try to avoid doing that part. There is just no way for a machine to do that intelligently and I could explain why but it would be long winded. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stins, Dick" <DR...@Zi...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hoi All, Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It's not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup menu from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available. For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join the cvs list inf...@gn.... CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test release, a beta release, production release, ... CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: - translations - userinterface - tax improvements - When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create a new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branches in progress. Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merge automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: merge regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge different branches manually. When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able to use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. With best regards, Dick Stins ----- Original Message ----- From: skaill To: web...@li... Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain here. WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, Ø I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or Ø maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? Ø The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 20:18:55
|
We could extend this to=20 -language=20 -theme Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:00 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] User Settings I have added user settings to my copy at = http://weberp.gocom.ca/weberpcvstest. The last menu option is Settings = which is the current user's settings that they can modify. There are = only two settings right now: Number of Records to Display = ($DisplayRecordsMax) and Enable Javascript ($EnableJavascript). To see, try going to Select Customer then type in "a" to search for = all records with an "a". It will page according to the user's current = settings. Now, go into Settings > User Settings and modify Number of = Records to Display. Go back to Select Customer and search on "a" again. = Notice the paging has changed to what you changed. We now have an area for users to "customize" their environment. = Adding more user settings is easy. This is assuming that Phil and = others want it in the cvs... The settings get set in session.inc by using a $_SESSION variable. In = this way the settings are always handy. When the user changes their = settings they are updated in both database and session variable so it is = on-the-fly changed. =20 Steve |
From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 20:15:49
|
Go to system setup - make a new login account with the permission set to customer logon only. Enter the customer code and branch code to which the goods ordered are to be sent. A login with this name will reveal only two options - account inquiry and place an order. The place an order still shows the quick entry grid by default (we should change this) but the search parts button changes this to allow selection of a category to browse parts by. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meraj Rasool Khattak" <mrk...@ya...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] StoreFront/Catalog and webERP > Hello, > > I am working on webERP, I downloaded & installed it on > my system, it works fine. But I need to integrate an > existing storefront in this system or would like > webERP to act as a catalog for ordering online. > > What that storefront would be doing is very simple, > webERP will handle all the transaction, > authentication, cart system etc & storefront will only > display the products which any user could browse but > to order any of them he must log-in & order. > > Now my question is how could I do to it in webERP ? > does anyone have any idea ? or on the other hand, I > would say how could I display the categories & > products using (as a catalog) using WebERP ? > > Best Regards, > > -Meraj > > ===== > http://www.naqoosh.com > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > |
From: Stins, D. <DR...@Zi...> - 2004-08-23 19:41:06
|
Hoi All, Yes, cvs is tough when you start with it. When you are using windows, then I recommend tortoise as cvs client. It's not as advanced as wincvs, but it is much easier to use. It is integrated with the file explorer. All commands are in the popup me= nu from a right click with your mouse. Also a difference tool is available. For other information (mainly cvs command line commands) , you can join t= he cvs list inf...@gn.... CVS helps you to keep control over your sources when you use it right. It would be possible to setup a developers branch (release) a test releas= e, a beta release, production release, ... CVS enables also to develop in parallel by creating branches for: - translations - userinterface - tax improvements - When one branch is finished, you can merge it with the trunk and create a new weberp release without having to wait for to finish the other branche= s in progress. Ofcourse you can get complicated situations with version you can't merge automatically, so it needs to be coordinated carefully (in practise: merg= e regularly everywhere) to reduce situations where you need to merge differ= ent branches manually. When the project keeps growing, then we would be glad that we are able to use cvs in a proper method to keep control on the sources. With best regards, Dick Stins ----- Original Message ----- From: skaill To: web...@li... Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others can t= ell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be more helpf= ul and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux blanks. Also, P= hil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation although it's more convolut= ed and less practical than what I'll explain here. WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. G= o into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General tab. Fill = in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it simp= le. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my changes in fr= om another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions ha= ve to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed and = to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it and t= est to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works correctly. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interfac= e. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, the= y seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have = to wait or =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join t= he CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small = as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-dow= n? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are = 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I thi= nk any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere an= d without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term mean= s it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phi= l's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two differen= t word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot cha= nge its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange ma= kes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels a= re more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like paste= ls can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy t= o change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to u= se the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons= so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for t= he different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, s= o please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and = so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" vers= ion that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
From: Chris B. <cb...@en...> - 2004-08-23 18:31:36
|
Hey rom, how are you making the .... in your site, are you using some kind of special CSS for the <HR> tag?? Chris -----Original Message----- From: web...@li... [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of Rom Pereira Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:32 AM To: web...@li... Subject: [Web-erp-developers] design idea Hello All, It is 2:30 AM here. Quite late and the wife is sleeping already. Best time to work huh? Well, I did some design. Hope you like. Please let me know your input. All comments will be welcome. Thank you and Best Regards, Rom Pereira |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 14:00:19
|
I have added user settings to my copy at = http://weberp.gocom.ca/weberpcvstest. The last menu option is Settings = which is the current user's settings that they can modify. There are = only two settings right now: Number of Records to Display = ($DisplayRecordsMax) and Enable Javascript ($EnableJavascript). To see, try going to Select Customer then type in "a" to search for all = records with an "a". It will page according to the user's current = settings. Now, go into Settings > User Settings and modify Number of = Records to Display. Go back to Select Customer and search on "a" again. = Notice the paging has changed to what you changed. We now have an area for users to "customize" their environment. Adding = more user settings is easy. This is assuming that Phil and others want = it in the cvs... The settings get set in session.inc by using a $_SESSION variable. In = this way the settings are always handy. When the user changes their = settings they are updated in both database and session variable so it is = on-the-fly changed. =20 Steve |
From: Meraj R. K. <mrk...@ya...> - 2004-08-23 12:17:24
|
Hello, I am working on webERP, I downloaded & installed it on my system, it works fine. But I need to integrate an existing storefront in this system or would like webERP to act as a catalog for ordering online. What that storefront would be doing is very simple, webERP will handle all the transaction, authentication, cart system etc & storefront will only display the products which any user could browse but to order any of them he must log-in & order. Now my question is how could I do to it in webERP ? does anyone have any idea ? or on the other hand, I would say how could I display the categories & products using (as a catalog) using WebERP ? Best Regards, -Meraj ===== http://www.naqoosh.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail |
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 10:16:45
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Not sure - I think it would alert to differences somehow ? Phil On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 21:45, skaill wrote: > I guess if you changed any of the files in your local version of th= e > cvs then did an update it would overwrite your changes. Is that > correct? > =20 > Steve > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Daintrees > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS > =20 > cvs update > =20 > this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloa= ds > the files that have changed so if only 1 file is changed th= en > you dont need to get the whole lot downloaded again. > =20 > I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I = am > using the command line more. > =20 > Phil > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: skaill > To: web...@li... > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > =20 > Hi Rom, > =20 > Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far ab= out > cvs. Others can tell you more I'm sure. If you ar= e > using Windows then this will be more helpful and if > not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux > blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge c= vs > explanation although it's more convoluted and > less practical than what I'll explain here. =20 > =20 > WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download > it and install it. They have a link to it from > SourceForge. Now you are about half way there. Go > into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on t= he > General tab. Fill in the following > =20 > pserver > /cvsroot/web-erp > cvs.sf.net > anonymous > ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp > =20 > I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout > read-only as well. Don't honestly know if it's nee= ded > though. > =20 > Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in > web-erp in the top area then select a local folder > where it will be downloaded. Click OK and it shoul= d > download the newest cvs version to the local folder= . > =20 > Voila! > =20 > There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I hav= e > been keeping it simple. I rename my local folder a= nd > then download a new copy. I then use my awesome > compare tool to see what has changed and to move my > changes in from another copy I work with. > =20 > Hope this helps. I really don't know why the > SourceForge instructions have to be so impractical.= =20 > They are enough to scare anyone off for good, I > swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you > can go from there. > =20 > Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. > =20 > The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics > you have changed and to give them to Phil. He will > look it over and put what he decides into the cvs.= =20 > Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't > agree with him about...hahaha...just kidding. > =20 > After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is goo= d > to download it and test to make sure whatever you d= id > that he incorporated works correctly.=20 > =20 > Steve > =20 > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Rom Pereira > To: web...@li...= t > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM > Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look > =20 > =20 > Hello Steve and All, > =20 > =20 > =20 > =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're > working from the old interface. Have you > downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way= , > if you haven't, they seem to be having trou= ble > with it for the last week. You'll either h= ave > to wait or=20 > =20 > =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he cou= ld > send. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Yes, I did this based on the download versi= on > of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts y= et > Where should I start? > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =D8 The graphics are very good. The = font > on the menu is too small as it displays on > mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in t= hat > Go To drop-down?=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing so= me > work on it since there are 2 concerns in th= at > part: 1) the description of the icons and 2= ) > the translation of it. I was thinking in ma= ybe > making the Modules Navigation a pull down > menu. I dont know. All inputs are welcome := D. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign= at > the end of webERP as I think any punctuatio= n > makes it difficult for people to catch onto > and readily communicate. I believe a name > that is represented the same everywhere and > without > anything that hinders remembering= it > quickly and long term means it spreads > quicker. Especially in web searches, etc.= =20 > However, that's Phil's call. =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > I just copy the actual way you write down t= he > logo. As you said it is Phils call. I just = did > a little redesign since web and erp are two > different word and in languages like mine > (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one w= ord > So it would be important, in my point of vi= ew > (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 word= s I > agree about the identity thing. One cannot > change its name otherwise it looses it > identity. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > I find these days that several of the erp > vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shad= es > as a color scheme. In fact earth tones see= m > to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shade= s > of soft browns, blues (some harder)and grey= s > > including their icons. Great Plains uses s= oft > to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, so= rt > of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and > browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is = it > possible to reshade the graphics into a pas= tel > > color scheme? > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > I just copy and paste the icons in the > interface The green and orange makes it mor= e > commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with = you > that the pastels are more neutral and it is > hard that people hates it. Who does not lik= e > pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea i= s > the following: with CSS it is easy to chang= e > the main interface colors and we can do (as > soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons > and the he sends to me the vector version o= f > his icons so we can change the coloring on > them) different versions of the icons for t= he > different themes. So we can have 10 differe= nt > versions of the coloring of the icons and m= uch > more combinations of the CSS schemes. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Best regards, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Rom Pereira > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > =20 > =20 > From: Rom Pereira > =20 > =20 > To: > web...@li...urceforg= e.net > =20 > =20 > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:1= 2 > AM > =20 > =20 > Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New L= ook > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Dear All, > =20 > =20 > =20 > I am designing a new look for the > interface (I am doing the design jo= b, > so please dont mind the graphics) a= nd > would like to know your opinion abo= ut > it: > =20 > =20 > =20 > http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_0= 1_18.08.2004.jpg > =20 > =20 > =20 > I kept all 3 navigations on it: > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The icons are the navigation betw= een > modules; > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The pull down menu is the navigat= ion > inside the modules (main menu and s= o > on) > =20 > =20 > =20 > - The items below are the same. > =20 > =20 > =20 > The interface is good for 800x600, = but > it is possible to do a slim version > that will fit in smaller screen > widths. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Please let me know your input, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Best Regards, > =20 > =20 > =20 > Rom Perei > =20 > =20 |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 10:06:47
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Comments within... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Daintree" <p.d...@pa...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] Paging > Steve, > > There is actually a variable in config.php called > > $Maximum_Number_Of_Parts_To_Show = 100; > > Perhaps we should change this variable to something more generic to > cover customers, items, suppliers et al. > Sounds good. > Scripts that potentially list a pile of data are: > > Areas.php - expect only a limited number really > BOMInquiry.php > BankMatching.php - already has an option to allow a limited number of > tranactions > BankReconciliation.php - could be piles of outstanding unmatched > transactions > COGSGLPostings.php > Currencies.php - should only be few but could be heaps. > CustomerAllocations.php > CustomerBranches.php > CustomerTransInquiry.php > DiscountCategories.php > DiscountMatrix.php > FreightCosts.php > GLAccountInquiry.php > GLAccounts.php > GLTrialBalance.php > PO_SelectOSPurchOrder.php > PO_SelectPurchOrder.php > PaymentTerms.php > PeriodsInquiry.php > Prices.php > SalesAnalRepts.php > SalesGLPostings.php > SalesPeople.php > SalesTypes.php > SelectCompletedOrder.php > SelectCustomer.php > SelectGLAccount.php > SelectOrderItems.php > SelectProduct.php > SelectSalesOrder.php > SelectSupplier.php > Shipments.php > Shippers.php > Shipt_Select.php > ShiptsList.php > StockCategories.php > StockLocMovements.php > StockLocStatus.php > StockLocTransfer.php > StockLocTransferReceive.php > StockMovements.php - already has movements since > SupplierAllocations.php > SupplierContacts.php > SupplierInquiry.php > TaxAuthorities.php - should only be a few > TaxAuthorityRates.php > WWW_Users.php > WhereUsedInquiry.php Yikes! I didn't know there were that many. Many of those are support tables such as PaymentTerms and are unlikely to be lengthy. Anyway, I'll plug away on the most significant first. If you want to suggest an order of significance, Phil, it would help. Otherwise I'll guess an order but I bet you know better. BankReconcilliation is probably high on the list I figure. > > Is it worth considering a little javascript function to put the focus in > the first form field while going through all these scripts? perhaps this > might be a function to put in header.inc I'm thinking it would reduce compatibility unless all the Javascript were optional. If we do go that route then it would probably be wise to have a selection in a user preferences area where the user could select whether to activate all those little Javascript bits or not. > > Phil > > On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 06:10, skaill wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have created paging in my version of webERP for when there are more > > records from a search than you would want to display on a single > > page. There is a new variable called $DisplayRecordsMax in config > > that says the maximum number of records per page and a drop-down > > allows the selection of the page. > > > > It can be seen at http://weberp.gocom.ca/weberpcvstest. Click on > > Select Customer then type "a" to search for all customers with an > > "a". There are 9 "a" records so it puts them into 2 pages since right > > now to test I have the $DisplayRecordsMax set at 5. > > > > Would this be good to have in the base webERP version? > > > > If so, I will do similar code for other areas that have searches/lists > > such as Select Item and Select Supplier and send Phil to put into the > > cvs. > > > > In the searches I'm thinking it would be nice to have Begins With and > > Contains Within radio buttons as well. > > > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 09:44:58
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I guess if you changed any of the files in your local version of the cvs = then did an update it would overwrite your changes. Is that correct? Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] CVS cvs update this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloads the = files that have changed so if only 1 file is changed then you dont need = to get the whole lot downloaded again. I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I am using = the command line more. Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others = can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be = more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux = blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation = although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain = here. =20 WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. = They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way = there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General = tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. = Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top = area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK = and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it = simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then = use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my = changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge = instructions have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone = off for good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can = go from there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed = and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides = into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree = with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it = and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works = correctly.=20 Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =20 =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old = interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you = haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. = You'll either have to wait or=20 =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. =20 Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not = join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =20 =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too = small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that = Go To drop-down?=20 =20 Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since = there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and = 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules = Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. =20 > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP = as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto = and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 =20 I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it = is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are = two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it = sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I = can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity = thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. =20 > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with = pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to = be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some = harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to = medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is = soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to = reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? =20 I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and = orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that = the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who = does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the = following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and = we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he = sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the = coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different = themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the = icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. =20 Best regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Dear All, =20 I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the = design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know = your opinion about it: =20 http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg =20 I kept all 3 navigations on it: =20 - The icons are the navigation between modules; =20 - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main = menu and so on) =20 - The items below are the same. =20 The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a = "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. =20 Please let me know your input, =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Perei |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 09:43:19
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This is all very interesting history. See, I didn't even realize that = webERP evolved from so many steps along the way. I mean, it makes sense = though. I have "engines", etc. now that have evolved with further = development from my early times too.=20 I also played around with the Motorola assembly. A friend and I had a = music studio with computerized 24 track sequencer back in the Atari days = before practically anyone had seen or heard of that stuff. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge I had an Acorn Electron PC - I was 18 I think - a cut down BBC = computer, then a few years later a Sinclar QL - I still have 2 of = these!! Although I have read quite a bit I have no formal training in = computers bar one course at university. I played with assembly language = for the Motorola 68008 that was in the QL and played with C - read = Kernan and Ritchie but never got into it - it was too hard! Had a Pascal = compiler for the QL too. Only played with little things though. =20 Wrote my first General ledger on the QL with SuperBasic in my 20s. =20 The I got into MS Access and wrote quite a few MS Access databases = for companies I worked for, finally I wrote a complete accounting system = upon which webERP is based on the best bits of. =20 http://www.dux.co.nz/LogicWorks/homepage.htm =20 I then converted this to use MS SQL with logic in stored procedures = with full MRP. Had a reasonable grounding in SQL Server 6.5 =20 Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL caught my attention. =20 Like you Rom, I enjoy the logic puzzles presented by programming and = creating something useful from nothing. =20 Phil =20 I started in the computers at the age of 11, when I got my first = commodore and a MSX. then I went to the Amiga and then at the same time = to PCs. I started programming basic and logo in the MSX. I got my first = job programming Borland C developing PDA like devices to the police of = my country (I was 17 in that time). Then I become passionate with = Borland C and DOS. Borland C is extremely powerful and I still recompile = some of my old stuff just for fun using Dos Box and FreeDOS some times. = I am no computer genius but I can make it work :D and the best of all: I = have fun doing it. As it is for me know a lot of fun doing this project = with you guys. =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Pereira =20 |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 09:32:30
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Hahaha.... Hopefully we're making some good old times again now ;) Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge Dear Steve, =20 Man, you are very old J. I was born in 10 of may of 1974, being 30 = today. =20 I had a Brazilian version of MSX from a company called Gradiente here = in Brazil that I bought. Below is the link. It is in Brazilian = Portuguese though :D =20 http://www.mci.org.br/micro/outros/expert.html =20 I still have both computers around and working fine. I can tell you = that they never did a game like Elite for MSX again. =20 Well, those things are for old people like us I presume. but I can = tell you that for sure those old times were far too good. =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Pereira=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: web...@li... = [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of = skaill Sent: segunda-feira, 23 de agosto de 2004 00:47 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 Great stuff! Borland rules!! What's MSX? I think I might have you = beat by age though. I started with TI99/4A and Timex/Sinclair ZX80 = before I got my Commodore 64. Here's some links... =20 http://www.oldcomputers.net/zx81.html =20 http://www.vex.net/~guru/ti/ti994nota.htm =20 Lots of experience around this project I'd say!!! =20 Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 Dear Steve and All, =20 > Hey, Phil, not true. Just a different skill set. A skill set = more similar to mine than yours. Except I don't have XML, Flash or = Delphi experience. I have some other experience though ;) =20 Each one have their own skills. I developed mine as needed. = Computers are a passion of mine and today, although I use computers as a = secondary part in my profession (I am a International Sales Manager) = they are still a big deal in my life. I usually use those to help the = companies to develop their computer side and to improve the Company's = efficiency.=20 =20 =D8 I can tell by the Borland C note that you are from my days, Rom! = Was Borland the best by far or what?!! =20 I started in the computers at the age of 11, when I got my first = commodore and a MSX. then I went to the Amiga and then at the same time = to PCs. I started programming basic and logo in the MSX. I got my first = job programming Borland C developing PDA like devices to the police of = my country (I was 17 in that time). Then I become passionate with = Borland C and DOS. Borland C is extremely powerful and I still recompile = some of my old stuff just for fun using Dos Box and FreeDOS some times. = I am no computer genius but I can make it work :D and the best of all: I = have fun doing it. As it is for me know a lot of fun doing this project = with you guys. =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Pereira =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Daintrees=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 You are WAY more knowledgable than me! =20 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:06 AM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 Dear Phil and All, =20 Thank you for your welcome to the project. =20 Although I agree with you that this is fun, I always try to = spend my available time in something that can help others. And I know = that a software like this would help a lot of small companies that are = starting and do not have money to spent in expensive ERPs. As soon as we = are done with the translation I will try to spread this all around. Here = in the company we just adopted (unfortunately we are still using = windows) OpenOffice.org and we are very satisfied with the results. As = far as I know the future looks brighter and I will do everything I can = so efforts like this will grow and grow and software like Web-ERP will = become an everyday need.=20 =20 I am not the best php programmer, but I can do some coding and I = am sure that I will learn a lot here. I am always open to learn more and = I am not afraid of fixing mistakes of mine. Something I am good at is = producing GUIs that are small in size and have harmony and are pleasant = to look at. I try to keep it simple, as portable as I can and stable. I = am used to produce GUIs to Netscape/Mozilla/IE and compatible with = Windows/Mac OS/Linux. =20 So that you get acquainted with what I can do:=20 =20 Programming Skills: ----------------------------------------------------- C/C++ (mostly Console Borland C) VB HB++ (Palm) Delphi PHP Javascript (Browser and PDF) Some Java Flash Actionscript CSS HTML XML XHTML =20 Graphic Skills ----------------------------------------------------- Photoshop Illustrator Flash Image treating/optimizing =20 Some DB Skills (Mostly MySQL, MsSQL, Oracle), lot of Hardware = programming (like routers, firewalls and so on) and more computer = skills that I do not know if we can use in this project. =20 Sorry about the long email, =20 Thank you and best regards, =20 Rom Pereira =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: web...@li... = [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of = Daintrees Sent: quarta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2004 03:52 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 Rom, =20 The project is completely open and all input is greatly = appreciated. =20 Contributions guidelines are in the docs section of the = sourceforge site =20 = http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3D24138&group_id=3D70= 949 =20 Consider yourself IN! =20 Thanks for joining in the fun! =20 Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at = sourceforge =20 Hello All, =20 I would like to join the project at source forge. My user id = is romrp. =20 Please let me in! :D =20 Thank you and best regards, =20 Rom Pereira |
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 08:38:19
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Ah 10 May not your birthday ... silly me. not so happy birthday after all. P On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 15:57, Rom Pereira wrote: > Dear Steve, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Man, you are very old J=85 I was born in 10 of may of 1974, being 3= 0 > today. |
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 07:44:50
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Steve, There is actually a variable in config.php called $Maximum_Number_Of_Parts_To_Show = 100; Perhaps we should change this variable to something more generic to cover customers, items, suppliers et al. Scripts that potentially list a pile of data are: Areas.php - expect only a limited number really BOMInquiry.php BankMatching.php - already has an option to allow a limited number of tranactions BankReconciliation.php - could be piles of outstanding unmatched transactions COGSGLPostings.php Currencies.php - should only be few but could be heaps. CustomerAllocations.php CustomerBranches.php CustomerTransInquiry.php DiscountCategories.php DiscountMatrix.php FreightCosts.php GLAccountInquiry.php GLAccounts.php GLTrialBalance.php PO_SelectOSPurchOrder.php PO_SelectPurchOrder.php PaymentTerms.php PeriodsInquiry.php Prices.php SalesAnalRepts.php SalesGLPostings.php SalesPeople.php SalesTypes.php SelectCompletedOrder.php SelectCustomer.php SelectGLAccount.php SelectOrderItems.php SelectProduct.php SelectSalesOrder.php SelectSupplier.php Shipments.php Shippers.php Shipt_Select.php ShiptsList.php StockCategories.php StockLocMovements.php StockLocStatus.php StockLocTransfer.php StockLocTransferReceive.php StockMovements.php - already has movements since SupplierAllocations.php SupplierContacts.php SupplierInquiry.php TaxAuthorities.php - should only be a few TaxAuthorityRates.php WWW_Users.php WhereUsedInquiry.php Is it worth considering a little javascript function to put the focus in the first form field while going through all these scripts? perhaps this might be a function to put in header.inc Phil On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 06:10, skaill wrote: > Hi all, > > I have created paging in my version of webERP for when there are more > records from a search than you would want to display on a single > page. There is a new variable called $DisplayRecordsMax in config > that says the maximum number of records per page and a drop-down > allows the selection of the page. > > It can be seen at http://weberp.gocom.ca/weberpcvstest. Click on > Select Customer then type "a" to search for all customers with an > "a". There are 9 "a" records so it puts them into 2 pages since right > now to test I have the $DisplayRecordsMax set at 5. > > Would this be good to have in the base webERP version? > > If so, I will do similar code for other areas that have searches/lists > such as Select Item and Select Supplier and send Phil to put into the > cvs. > > In the searches I'm thinking it would be nice to have Begins With and > Contains Within radio buttons as well. > > Steve |
From: Phil D. <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 07:30:27
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Thanks Hani, at the mo I have a dummy gettext function that just returns the English string so it deals with a no gettext install by not being a multi-language system. This is a little blunt perhaps! I just updated to PHP 5 and understand that gettext doesn't actually work with the windows version at least. I will have to take out my dummy function to check!! Phil On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 01:31, Hani Naguib wrote: > Hi Phil, > One note, you don't really need gettext to be compiled with php (if it > is great then use it because of the speed improvements) but if not there > are simple php based gettext implementations. > I thought someone had already posted a function that checked for that > and acted accordingly. > Although gettext is pre-compiled at most ISPs it does not come with the > default php installers which is probably what people will be using when > they first download weberp for evaluation. > > Hani |
From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 06:58:07
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cvs update this updates your copy to the latest files and only downloads the files = that have changed so if only 1 file is changed then you dont need to get = the whole lot downloaded again. I found the sourceforge instructions ok but then I guess I am using the = command line more. Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: skaill=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hi Rom, Well I can tell you what I've figured out so far about cvs. Others = can tell you more I'm sure. If you are using Windows then this will be = more helpful and if not then maybe someone else can fill in the Linux = blanks. Also, Phil has a link to the SourceForge cvs explanation = although it's more convoluted and less practical than what I'll explain = here. =20 WinCVS seems to be the best so find it, download it and install it. = They have a link to it from SourceForge. Now you are about half way = there. Go into WinCVS and click on Admin > Login. Click on the General = tab. Fill in the following pserver /cvsroot/web-erp cvs.sf.net anonymous ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/web-erp I went to the Globals tab and checked Checkout read-only as well. = Don't honestly know if it's needed though. Next, click on Remote > Checkout module. Type in web-erp in the top = area then select a local folder where it will be downloaded. Click OK = and it should download the newest cvs version to the local folder. Voila! There are ways of updating your cvs, etc. but I have been keeping it = simple. I rename my local folder and then download a new copy. I then = use my awesome compare tool to see what has changed and to move my = changes in from another copy I work with. Hope this helps. I really don't know why the SourceForge instructions = have to be so impractical. They are enough to scare anyone off for = good, I swear. Anyway, that should get you started and you can go from = there. Some others may be able to add some helpful hints. The idea is to know what files, tables and graphics you have changed = and to give them to Phil. He will look it over and put what he decides = into the cvs. Phil makes good decisions, except the one I don't agree = with him about...hahaha...just kidding. After Phil moves the changes into the cvs it is good to download it = and test to make sure whatever you did that he incorporated works = correctly.=20 Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, =20 =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old = interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you = haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. = You'll either have to wait or=20 =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. =20 Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not = join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =20 =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too = small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that = Go To drop-down?=20 =20 Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there = are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the = translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. =20 > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as = I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 =20 I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it = is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are = two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it = sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I = can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity = thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. =20 > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with = pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to = be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some = harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to = medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is = soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to = reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? =20 I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and = orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that = the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who = does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the = following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and = we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he = sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the = coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different = themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the = icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. =20 Best regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Dear All, =20 I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design = job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your = opinion about it: =20 http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg =20 I kept all 3 navigations on it: =20 - The icons are the navigation between modules; =20 - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main = menu and so on) =20 - The items below are the same. =20 The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a = "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. =20 Please let me know your input, =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Perei |
From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 06:51:13
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I had an Acorn Electron PC - I was 18 I think - a cut down BBC = computer, then a few years later a Sinclar QL - I still have 2 of = these!! Although I have read quite a bit I have no formal training in = computers bar one course at university. I played with assembly language = for the Motorola 68008 that was in the QL and played with C - read = Kernan and Ritchie but never got into it - it was too hard! Had a Pascal = compiler for the QL too. Only played with little things though. Wrote my first General ledger on the QL with SuperBasic in my 20s. The I got into MS Access and wrote quite a few MS Access databases = for companies I worked for, finally I wrote a complete accounting system = upon which webERP is based on the best bits of. http://www.dux.co.nz/LogicWorks/homepage.htm I then converted this to use MS SQL with logic in stored procedures = with full MRP. Had a reasonable grounding in SQL Server 6.5 Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL caught my attention. Like you Rom, I enjoy the logic puzzles presented by programming and = creating something useful from nothing. Phil =20 I started in the computers at the age of 11, when I got my first = commodore and a MSX. then I went to the Amiga and then at the same time = to PCs. I started programming basic and logo in the MSX. I got my first = job programming Borland C developing PDA like devices to the police of = my country (I was 17 in that time). Then I become passionate with = Borland C and DOS. Borland C is extremely powerful and I still recompile = some of my old stuff just for fun using Dos Box and FreeDOS some times. = I am no computer genius but I can make it work :D and the best of all: I = have fun doing it. As it is for me know a lot of fun doing this project = with you guys. =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Pereira |
From: Daintrees <p.d...@pa...> - 2004-08-23 06:32:37
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> Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I = think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 This is marketing stuff - I bow out on this call - make the logo how you = guys like - this was Shane Barnaby's look - it looks good to me but = judging from Rom's first hack at the design I am confident that Rom and = his friend will come up with something better. The nature of webERP is = that it gets another + every couple of weeks!! Should now be = webERP++++++++++. My wife chooses the colours round here - I like calm. Phil |
From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 04:17:06
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Dear Phil and All, > yes this would be particularly good. > I think it would be possible to create a script that periodically > updates the main .po file of the strings requiring translation. > I also think it would be possible for a web-site to allow a translator > to select the language and the appropriate .po file could be parsed=20 > into a web page with the strings translated available for > modification.That would then write the new translations back to an > amended .po file. I think you will see the possibilities when you see > the automatically created .po file of strings and referred to as msgid > and the translations referred to as msgstr. > I dont think this would be too much of a mission either! I very much agree... count on me to develop it :D [Massively off topic ... Had a look at your web-site. Is your product free from all non-organic fertiliser, insect sprays and chemicals ... I thought this resulted in low yields and bugs etc In NZ they call it "organic" growing and it is trendy for those healthy clean living folks although one has to pay quite a bit extra for fruit/veg that will not pollute the body because of the difficulty in growing such produce.] We have a lot of different certifications and Organic is one of them. We = do not use any chemical product at all and we use a lot of organic = fertilizers, being most of it peels and others from fruits. We in my family are = freaks about nature and stuff. We just love it. My grandpa (that unfortunately = is not between us anymore) started it all in 1945. In that time he already = like and used the idea of more natural possible... My father continued his = legacy and now me and in 2003 we were the first in the world to have Biodynamic Banana Pur=E9e that is a product for the industry to produce other types = of foods, from baby food to everything that needs top quality products. We export to Germany/Switzerland/Holland/Austria and so on. Well, organic products are not that expensive anymore. Studies show that they are 20 to 30% more expensive then conventional products now-a-days = and I tell you, it is worth it. With organic products you can trace from the beginning, from the plant to its final product if you desire so. With conventional products you cannot do it. You can never know if your = potatoes chips came from a plantation in the middle of some poor country were = they enslave the workers to get cheap products... There is a need those days = to make organic production the standard. There is a lot to say about this subject, maybe you can visit an organic plantation near your home and the owner will explain to you better :D Thank you for asking, With best regards, Rom Pereira |
From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 03:58:57
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Yeah, Sorry. ro...@pr... Thank you, Rom Pereira _____ From: web...@li... [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of skaill Sent: segunda-feira, 23 de agosto de 2004 00:57 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Can you give me another email and I will send snapshots there instead of sending to everyone in this list? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear Steve and All, > I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option where it makes > sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested and word in all the main browsers at the very least. Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to the design table :D * That's good about the icons being able to be different colors. Thank you :-) Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version? With Best Regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, * I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or * maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? * The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |
From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 03:58:15
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Dear Steve, Man, you are very old :-). I was born in 10 of may of 1974, being 30 today. I had a Brazilian version of MSX from a company called Gradiente here in Brazil that I bought. Below is the link. It is in Brazilian Portuguese though :D http://www.mci.org.br/micro/outros/expert.html I still have both computers around and working fine. I can tell you that they never did a game like Elite for MSX again. Well, those things are for old people like us I presume. but I can tell you that for sure those old times were far too good. Best Regards, Rom Pereira _____ From: web...@li... [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of skaill Sent: segunda-feira, 23 de agosto de 2004 00:47 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge Great stuff! Borland rules!! What's MSX? I think I might have you beat by age though. I started with TI99/4A and Timex/Sinclair ZX80 before I got my Commodore 64. Here's some links... http://www.oldcomputers.net/zx81.html http://www.vex.net/~guru/ti/ti994nota.htm Lots of experience around this project I'd say!!! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge Dear Steve and All, > Hey, Phil, not true. Just a different skill set. A skill set more similar to mine than yours. Except I don't have XML, Flash or Delphi experience. I have some other experience though ;) Each one have their own skills. I developed mine as needed. Computers are a passion of mine and today, although I use computers as a secondary part in my profession (I am a International Sales Manager) they are still a big deal in my life. I usually use those to help the companies to develop their computer side and to improve the Company's efficiency. * I can tell by the Borland C note that you are from my days, Rom! Was Borland the best by far or what?!! I started in the computers at the age of 11, when I got my first commodore and a MSX. then I went to the Amiga and then at the same time to PCs. I started programming basic and logo in the MSX. I got my first job programming Borland C developing PDA like devices to the police of my country (I was 17 in that time). Then I become passionate with Borland C and DOS. Borland C is extremely powerful and I still recompile some of my old stuff just for fun using Dos Box and FreeDOS some times. I am no computer genius but I can make it work :D and the best of all: I have fun doing it. As it is for me know a lot of fun doing this project with you guys. Best Regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Daintrees <mailto:p.d...@pa...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge You are WAY more knowledgable than me! Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:06 AM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge Dear Phil and All, Thank you for your welcome to the project. Although I agree with you that this is fun, I always try to spend my available time in something that can help others. And I know that a software like this would help a lot of small companies that are starting and do not have money to spent in expensive ERPs. As soon as we are done with the translation I will try to spread this all around. Here in the company we just adopted (unfortunately we are still using windows) OpenOffice.org and we are very satisfied with the results. As far as I know the future looks brighter and I will do everything I can so efforts like this will grow and grow and software like Web-ERP will become an everyday need. I am not the best php programmer, but I can do some coding and I am sure that I will learn a lot here. I am always open to learn more and I am not afraid of fixing mistakes of mine. Something I am good at is producing GUIs that are small in size and have harmony and are pleasant to look at. I try to keep it simple, as portable as I can and stable. I am used to produce GUIs to Netscape/Mozilla/IE and compatible with Windows/Mac OS/Linux. So that you get acquainted with what I can do: Programming Skills: ----------------------------------------------------- C/C++ (mostly Console Borland C) VB HB++ (Palm) Delphi PHP Javascript (Browser and PDF) Some Java Flash Actionscript CSS HTML XML XHTML Graphic Skills ----------------------------------------------------- Photoshop Illustrator Flash Image treating/optimizing Some DB Skills (Mostly MySQL, MsSQL, Oracle), lot of Hardware programming (like routers, firewalls and so on) and more computer skills that I do not know if we can use in this project. Sorry about the long email, Thank you and best regards, Rom Pereira _____ From: web...@li... [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of Daintrees Sent: quarta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2004 03:52 To: web...@li... Subject: Re: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge Rom, The project is completely open and all input is greatly appreciated. Contributions guidelines are in the docs section of the sourceforge site http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=24138 <http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=24138&group_id=70949> &group_id=70949 Consider yourself IN! Thanks for joining in the fun! Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] how to join the project at sourceforge Hello All, I would like to join the project at source forge. My user id is romrp. Please let me in! :D Thank you and best regards, Rom Pereira |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 03:56:18
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Can you give me another email and I will send snapshots there instead of = sending to everyone in this list? Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear Steve and All, =20 > I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate = selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here = is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option = where it makes=20 > sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested = and word in all the main browsers at the very least. =20 Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects = and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to = the design table :D =20 =D8 That's good about the icons being able to be different = colors. =20 Thank you J =20 Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version? =20 With Best Regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Hello Steve and All, =20 =D8 I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old = interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you = haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. = You'll either have to wait or=20 =D8 maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. =20 Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not = join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? =20 =D8 The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small = as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To = drop-down?=20 =20 Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there = are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the = translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation = a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. =20 > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as = I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and = readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same = everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly = and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, = etc. However, that's Phil's call. =20 =20 I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it = is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are = two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it = sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I = can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity = thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. =20 > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with = pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to = be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some = harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to = medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is = soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to = reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? =20 I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and = orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that = the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who = does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the = following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and = we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he = sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the = coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different = themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the = icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. =20 Best regards, =20 Rom Pereira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rom Pereira=20 To: web...@li...=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look =20 Dear All, =20 I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design = job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your = opinion about it: =20 http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg =20 I kept all 3 navigations on it: =20 - The icons are the navigation between modules; =20 - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main = menu and so on) =20 - The items below are the same. =20 The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a = "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. =20 Please let me know your input, =20 Best Regards, =20 Rom Perei |
From: skaill <sk...@ro...> - 2004-08-23 03:53:18
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I very much agree with the new user and everyday user concept. The Selects (or Go to Drop-down) and hot keys will serve the everyday well. I'm not saying it's right but unfortunately a program, just like a book, will be judged by its cover most of the time. That's why Microsoft does so well. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rom Pereira" <ro...@pr...> To: <web...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:36 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] design idea > Dear Phil and All, > > > Sorry its taken me a few days to comment on your design work. > > It is fine :) > > > This design looks great! > > Thank you! > > > What is the intention with the GO TO selection box? > > I noticed that Menu in the top right side (in the stable version, not CVS) > stays the same all the time. So I thought about putting it on a pull down so > it gets less space in the interface. > > > One point - design seems to have adopted the old horizontal format. > > Steve's new design that I recently committed to the CVS is more vertical > > than the old horizontal way - you may want to have a look at this - I > > like the fact that we can get more links visible on the page with his > > way. It makes good use of the whole screen - even works at 600x800. > > Well, I did not see the CVS version yet... Please point me the way to get > there. Some point I can share in my experience is that the interface must > attend to 2 types of user: the new user and the everyday user. The new user > needs to easily get along with the interface. The everyday user needs the > interface to work as fast as possible as well as efficient as possible to > them. > > I saw the webERP as far as Interface and Navigation in the stable version as > follows: > > - Modules (payables, receivables, etc) > - In Module Navigation (that is the main menu link and others) - these stay > as the same in all modules > - Options for each modules (those are unique for each module) > > > I have had lectures from Steve about how the visual appeal is important > > for marketing purposes and getting initial buy in from potential users > > .... and since everyone will have different view on what looks good I > > really like the themes idea. This involves a new directory under the css > > directory all you need to do is tell config.php the name of the new > > directory (theme) under the css directory and the whole system changes > > its look! We could even make this different for different users quite > > easily. > > I agree with Steve. Desing today is as important as functionality... You do > not wish to buy a Mercedes or a BMW or that wonderful Sport car because you > can drive you faster to work... It is because it appeals to you. You like > it. The same way with an application: you need to like its looks so you have > the will to become more acquainted to it... > > > This may sound like me pouring cold water over your idea and I > > desperately don't want to put you off contributing. Its not that your > > design is not great... it is. However, I must say that I not keen to > > re-invent the core GUI every couple of months. Re-working old scripts > > always gives me the nasty negative feeling of "if only I'd done it this > > way in the first place I wouldn't be wasting time doing it again" - GUI > > re-invention seems like a never ending circle and I prefer to focus on > > pushing out the accounting functionality. > > No it is fine... The whole idea of copying in some way the stable interface > was that we had to only change the header and footer files... It is not in > my concept having to redo any development in this way, only, of course, if > we decide so. Please put the stable interface side to side with this one I > did and you notice that they are the same, just with the positions changed. > It will work as a new theme to your stable version. > > > Thats not to say that if we can extend the themes concept to allow a few > > more bells and whistles ... then lets do it! > > > Perhaps we should get stuck into the multi-language stuff first then > > revisit the GUI after that. > > Ok :D > > Thank you for the comments, > > Rom Pereira > > On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 17:32, Rom Pereira wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > It is 2:30 AM here. Quite late and the wife is sleeping already. Best > > time to work huh? > > > > > > > > Well, I did some design. Hope you like. > > > > > > > > Please let me know your input. All comments will be welcome. > > > > > > > > Thank you and Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rom Pereira > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
From: Rom P. <ro...@pr...> - 2004-08-23 03:47:10
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Dear Steve and All, > I was thinking of pull-down menus too but only as an alternate selected way because they would have to use Javascript. The rule here is ALL HTML, CSS and PHP but possibly the odd Javascript as an option where it makes > sense. In this case it makes sense. The Javascript must be tested and word in all the main browsers at the very least. Humm, you are right, I read some of this in the goals of the projects and definitely pull downs would require some JavaScript. Well, back to the design table :D * That's good about the icons being able to be different colors. Thank you :-) Could you please send to me a snapshot of the CVS version? With Best Regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Hello Steve and All, * I'm thinking that possibly you're working from the old interface. Have you downloaded the most recent cvs? By the way, if you haven't, they seem to be having trouble with it for the last week. You'll either have to wait or * maybe Phil has a copy that he could send. Yes, I did this based on the download version of webERP. I did not join the CVS efforts yet. Where should I start? * The graphics are very good. The font on the menu is too small as it displays on mine. Do you mean to have the Selects in that Go To drop-down? Yes, it is quite small. I am still doing some work on it since there are 2 concerns in that part: 1) the description of the icons and 2) the translation of it. I was thinking in maybe making the Modules Navigation a pull down menu. I don't know. All inputs are welcome :D. > Personally I'd like to drop the plus sign at the end of webERP as I think any punctuation makes it difficult for people to catch onto and readily communicate. I believe a name that is represented the same everywhere and without > anything that hinders remembering it quickly and long term means it spreads quicker. Especially in web searches, etc. However, that's Phil's call. I just copy the actual way you write down the logo. As you said it is Phil's call. I just did a little redesign since "web" and "erp" are two different word and in languages like mine (Brazilian Portuguese) it sounds like one word. So it would be important, in my point of view (I can be wrong), to show that it is 2 words. I agree about the identity thing. One cannot change its name otherwise it looses it identity. > I find these days that several of the erp vendors have gone with pastel (calmer) shades as a color scheme. In fact earth tones seem to be the "norm". Accpac has varying shades of soft browns, blues (some harder)and greys > including their icons. Great Plains uses soft to medium blues, greys, browns and soft, sort of grey/green. Navision is soft blues and browns. Possibly others may disagree. Is it possible to reshade the graphics into a pastel > color scheme? I just copy and paste the icons in the interface. The green and orange makes it more commercial now-a-days, but I do agree with you that the pastels are more neutral and it is hard that people hates it. Who does not like pastels can easily ignore it. But my idea is the following: with CSS it is easy to change the main interface colors and we can do (as soon as we decide to use the Everaldo icons and the he sends to me the vector version of his icons so we can change the coloring on them) different versions of the icons for the different themes. So we can have 10 different versions of the coloring of the icons and much more combinations of the CSS schemes. Best regards, Rom Pereira ----- Original Message ----- From: Rom Pereira <mailto:ro...@pr...> To: web...@li... Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: [Web-erp-developers] New Look Dear All, I am designing a new look for the interface (I am doing the design job, so please don't mind the graphics) and would like to know your opinion about it: http://www.primor.ind.br/i/weberp_01_18.08.2004.jpg I kept all 3 navigations on it: - The icons are the navigation between modules; - The pull down menu is the navigation inside the modules (main menu and so on) - The items below are the same. The interface is good for 800x600, but it is possible to do a "slim" version that will fit in smaller screen widths. Please let me know your input, Best Regards, Rom Perei |