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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-04-09 12:45:42
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-- Alecs. K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-04-07 16:39:07
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:45:42 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > > So James (and other Debian users, probably?), would you please test it > under your Debian box and tell us if it's okay? > > I have got a chance to test it on a Debian/sid. Worked fine. Cool. Thanks wandys. lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-04-07 12:46:10
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1) The old script would remove all original *.txt files first and then install our translated files. Not the rite way. We should remain non-translated files. 2) I followed this thread. This is what i got: both woody and sid use *.txt.gz but one use help.txt and another use help.txt.gz. The new script copies the help.txt first and then gzips and copies all *.txt..gz files. So this way should work for both woody and sid. 3) The new script is shorter and simpler. =) So James (and other Debian users, probably?), would you please test it under your Debian box and tell us if it's okay? I have got a chance to test it on a Debian/sid. Worked fine. Regards, -- Alecs K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-26 09:07:21
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:01:06 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > > >How does that link get setup wandys? > > It's all set up automatically by the wiki itself.. hmmmm. All I got from that link is garbage, which should be a XML file. :( lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-26 01:01:24
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:21:43 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > hmmmm I just found out that this page > http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentChanges > has a 'RSS' link. Is there a way we can make use of this? ' Not that i know of. >How does that link get setup wandys? It's all set up automatically by the wiki itself.. -- Alecs K. |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-26 01:01:23
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:08:55 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > > > They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think > > they are one of us _yet_. :-) > > Shall we ask them to join us or is it too early? Um.. Wait and see if they are as active. Anyway, they can actively join us if they want to devote more. >You see without > automatic > notification, it is hard to judge how active they are. I didn't even > know they exist if not for you to tell me. This is unfortunate really. > I think having to go to the webpage to check everthing out is kinda > pain and less effective. A little bit. But dont have to check much often. > ps. RSS is greate. Maybe we will wait until > they finish those documents. I think WiKi is still handy thoug right > because it is 'open'. We can do review and polishing right there. > Yes. That's what it's meant to be. -- Alecs K. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 15:55:08
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:22:56 +0800, co...@bj... said: > hello all, > > sorry for my rudeness, Not at all. It's not like the whole world has subscribed anyway. :-) lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free |
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From: <co...@bj...> - 2004-03-25 15:39:01
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hello all, sorry for my rudeness, and thanks for lang2's remind. i'll keep use the translate mailing list in the future. con |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 13:02:50
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on Thu, 25 Mar 2004 04:32:53 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > Will Vim find the 'help.txt' instead of the 'help.txt.gz' file > automatically? I've been confused: Debian woody use 'help.txt.gz' by default and Debian sid usd 'help.txt' by default. I didn't figure it our just now. > In fact, whatever works for you would be enough. The rest of us don't > have anything to test with. So if you feel happy, make the chage and check-in. Okay. Changes have been made and the file checked in. Thx to lang2! Best regards, -- James He |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 12:47:57
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on Thu, 25 Mar 2004 04:25:41 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > hmmm. You mean can ':helpt <dir>' take care of gzipped files? I don't > fully > understand. My mistake, again! :-( I gunzipped all the doc files and run ``:helpt <dir>''--which is not necessary. Using the install script is enough. Best regards, -- James He |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 12:32:56
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:27:56 +0800, "James He" <ic...@us...> said: > I found that the cmd ``:helpt'' is not necessary. > We can remove the line ``gunzip help.txt.gz'' from the install script to > solve this problem because the other tags remain the same. ;-) Will Vim find the 'help.txt' instead of the 'help.txt.gz' file automatically? In fact, whatever works for you would be enough. The rest of us don't have anything to test with. So if you feel happy, make the chage and check-in. Thanks, lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 12:28:11
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on Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:15:18 +0800 James He <ic...@us...> wrote: > I checked the new install script and found out you had not taken ``:helpt'' > into thought. Unless ``:helpt <dir>'' is done in vim can vimcdoc work. ^_^ I found that the cmd ``:helpt'' is not necessary. We can remove the line ``gunzip help.txt.gz'' from the install script to solve this problem because the other tags remain the same. ;-) Best regards, -- James He |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 12:25:44
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:15:18 +0800, "James He" <ic...@us...> said: > I checked the new install script and found out you had not taken > ``:helpt'' > into thought. Unless ``:helpt <dir>'' is done in vim can vimcdoc work. > ^_^ hmmm. You mean can ':helpt <dir>' take care of gzipped files? I don't fully understand. lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 12:15:29
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on Thu, 25 Mar 2004 04:07:02 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > Yes. Now, I've checked in a new version of the script into CVS. If you > can do an update and check if it works on the Woody box, that would be > greate. Read the comments at the top for information. Sorry for my mistake. The original install script does not work properly in Debian sid, too. I checked the new install script and found out you had not taken ``:helpt'' into thought. Unless ``:helpt <dir>'' is done in vim can vimcdoc work. ^_^ Best regards, -- James He |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 12:07:04
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:40:50 +0800, "James He" <ic...@us...> said: > > I tested the install script and it works all right in my Debian > sid(unstable) box. > However, in a Debian Woody box, it does have some problems. Yes. Now, I've checked in a new version of the script into CVS. If you can do an update and check if it works on the Woody box, that would be greate. Read the comments at the top for information. Thanks lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 11:42:35
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on Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:56:18 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > I thought you were a BSD head. Anyways, > Back in several month, somebody complained that our install script > doesn't work for Debian because Debian gzipped those documents. First > of all, is this true for you? Second, I've made some effort to accomodate > this but I can only emulate the enviroment and would like some debian > user to test it. Would you be up for it? I tested the install script and it works all right in my Debian sid(unstable) box. However, in a Debian Woody box, it does have some problems. In Debian Woody(stable), the vim(ver 6.1) docs are originally provided in forms of .txt.gz After we install our chinese docs, vim still load those English versions. The reason is that the file ``tags'' is built with those .txt.gz filenames. FYI, the output of `ls -l` (those .txt files are installed by our install script) [snip] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6.1k Mar 25 19:32 gui_w16.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.1k Apr 15 2002 gui_w16.txt.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15k Mar 25 19:32 gui_w32.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.0k Apr 15 2002 gui_w32.txt.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15k Mar 25 19:32 gui_x11.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.5k Apr 15 2002 gui_x11.txt.gz [/snip] the output of `cat tags` [snip] ! change.txt.gz /*!* !! change.txt.gz /*!!* # pattern.txt.gz /*#* $ motion.txt.gz /*$* $HOME options.txt.gz /*$HOME* [/snip] Best regards, -- James He |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 10:21:44
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> > > One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about > > changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? > > > > Unfortunately, no. > http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/PageChangeNotification hmmmm I just found out that this page http://vcd.cosoft.org.cn/pwiki/index.php/RecentChanges has a 'RSS' link. Is there a way we can make use of this? How does that link get setup wandys? lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 10:12:12
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> > They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think they > are one of us _yet_. :-) Shall we ask them to join us or is it too early? You see without automatic notification, it is hard to judge how active they are. I didn't even know they exist if not for you to tell me. This is unfortunate really. I think having to go to the webpage to check everthing out is kinda pain and less effective. ps. RSS is greate. Maybe we will wait until they finish those documents. I think WiKi is still handy thoug right because it is 'open'. We can do review and polishing right there. lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-25 09:56:23
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:56:13 +0800, "James He" <ic...@us...> said: > > > Anybody a Debian user here? > > I am. ^_^ What's up? :-) I thought you were a BSD head. Anyways, Back in several month, somebody complained that our install script doesn't work for Debian because Debian gzipped those documents. First of all, is this true for you? Second, I've made some effort to accomodate this but I can only emulate the enviroment and would like some debian user to test it. Would you be up for it? Rgds, lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-25 03:20:20
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:52:22 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > Amazing indeed. And admirable. We accumulated 10 odd people and spent > over > 12 month for just about the same thing and maybe in some area, worse. Well, some guy joined and has since kept silient. Active members are about 5 ppl. > There > is one thing that I think we did right: openess. Let people know we > are doing it and let people join us (hopefully). Yes. We've been so open rite from the start. > Our stuff can be > used as online help and we have more coverage (much more actually). I > think we did a greate job to do that. So keep going. =) > ps. If most of us agree with me, there is no need to host this file > (no offense, it is a very good file) on our site. okay. -- Alecs K. |
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From: Alecs K. <Al...@pe...> - 2004-03-25 03:14:16
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:57:52 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > > As for 'who', you can 'sign in' before you start to edit. > > Is anybody doing this? Do translators have to register again? No, you dont have to. > > > > > Well, wiki is a thing meant to be open. And i make our wiki as open > > as possible. Anonymous edit allowed everywhere. > Sounds like you are planning to use wiki as a scratch pad or > something. So there is actually no need to keep the wiki pages > synchronized with CVS. The official documents would be whatever in the > CVS and the generated > html version. Exactly. > > > > > FYI, our wiki has since been working pretty fine. Some guy has > > translated 'if_perl.txt' and another guy has started to work > > on 'visual.txt'. Not 'small changes', huh? So we can invite them to > > join in as core translators (with cvs committing permisson). > Fantasitic! Do we know who they are? (Maybe they are one of us?) They left their emails there in the translated doc and i dont think they are one of us _yet_. :-) > One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about > changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? > Unfortunately, no. http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/PageChangeNotification -- Alecs K. |
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From: James He <ic...@us...> - 2004-03-25 02:05:16
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on Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:01:16 -0800 "Simon Liang" <wzh...@sp...> wrote: > Anybody a Debian user here? I am. ^_^ What's up? Best regards, -- James He |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-24 17:09:57
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All, Anybody a Debian user here? lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-24 17:05:13
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:56:56 +0800, co...@bj... said: > hello all, > > i,m traslating the map.txt, and completed about 1/3. Good work thecon! Thank. However, there is only one thing maybe you can avoid doing: don't post to the announce mailing list. Thus far, that mailing list has only been used to announce releases and I don't see a reason to use it for anything else yet. Could you use the translate mailing list in the future? Thanks, lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. |
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From: Simon L. <wzh...@sp...> - 2004-03-24 16:59:31
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:32:28 +0800, "Alecs K." <Al...@pe...> said: > > > 1. Is there a way to synchronize the CVS and WiKi pages automatically? > > From both sides? > > No. :-( > As for 'who', you can 'sign in' before you start to edit. Is anybody doing this? Do translators have to register again? > > Well, wiki is a thing meant to be open. And i make our wiki as open as > possible. Anonymous edit allowed everywhere. Sounds like you are planning to use wiki as a scratch pad or something. So there is actually no need to keep the wiki pages synchronized with CVS. The official documents would be whatever in the CVS and the generated html version. Am I getting the wrong idea? > > FYI, our wiki has since been working pretty fine. Some guy has > translated 'if_perl.txt' and another guy has started to work > on 'visual.txt'. Not 'small changes', huh? So we can invite them to join > in as core translators (with cvs committing permisson). Fantasitic! Do we know who they are? (Maybe they are one of us?) One more question, is there a way for people to get notification about changes in WiKi pages, like the cvs-commit mailing list? Rgds, lang2 -- Simon Liang wzh...@sp... -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free |
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