tuxpaint-users — General discussion list for parents and teachers using Tux Paint

[Tuxpaint-users] Problems starting tuxpaint?

[Albert So <ki...@ya...>]

Hi all,

Tuxpaint just quits after displaying the splash screen on my Windows 2000 machine. 

The strange thing is that if I uninstall Tuxpaint and the stamps, and then reinstall Tuxpaint and the stamps, that tuxpaint will work again. However, once I reboot the machine, Tuxpaint will no longer start until I reinstall Tuxpaint and its stamps.

I've tried purging the lockfile, but it did not help.

I couldn't find a reference to this problem in the bug tracker or elsewhere on the web.  Has anyone seen this problem or have suggestions on how to debug this?


Thanks,

Albert

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Slide show feature coming in 0.9.16!

[Sue M. <mor...@op...>]

Bill,
Please don't take too long with this - I have 50 kindergarten kids  
doing individual slides right now which I was going to put together  
into a slideshow in a fortnight in another program. You would be a  
lifesaver if they could do it themselves!

Sue Morton
Ermington Public School



On 28/08/2006, at 10:18 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:

>
> I've added a basic slideshow feature to Tux Paint!
>
> Here's how it currently works:
>
> 1. From the 'Open' dialog, you'll click the "Slides" button at the  
> lower left.
> 2. A file selection screen, almost identical to the 'Open' dialog,  
> will appear.
> 3. Click each image you wish to show in your slideshow, one at a time.
> 4. Digits will appear at the lower right corner of each image's  
> thumbnail,
>    denoting what order the images will be shown in.
> 5. A slider on this screen allows you to set the pace of the slideshow
>    (from 'you have to click to go to the next slide', to slow,  
> through to
>    fast).
> 6. Click "Play"
>
>
> During the slideshow, you can use the Space or Enter keys to go to  
> the next
> slide manually.  Or click the "Next" button at the lower left.
>
> Additionally, you can use the Left and Right arrow keys to go back  
> and forth,
> respectively.
>
> Press Escape, or click the "Back" button at the lower right to  
> return to
> the slide selection screen.
>
>
> This feature can be used for simple slides, and very basic animation.
> (Remember that, normally, Tux Paint asks you if you want to make a new
> file every time you click Save.  Make small adjustments to your  
> picture, and
> Save it to a new file each time, and voila!  Animation!)
>
>
> I'm still not sure when Tux Paint 0.9.16 will be released, but  
> hopefully
> some time in the next month or so.
>
> In the meantime, the code is available in the CVS repository, so  
> developers
> can check it out now and give it a test drive!
>
>   http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/#cvs
>
>
> PS - This closes Source Forge "Request For Enhancement" #1070404 :^)
>   http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? 
> func=detail&aid=1070404&group_id=66938&atid=516298
>
>
> -- 
> -bill!
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[Tuxpaint-users] Slide show feature coming in 0.9.16!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I've added a basic slideshow feature to Tux Paint!

Here's how it currently works:

1. From the 'Open' dialog, you'll click the "Slides" button at the lower left.
2. A file selection screen, almost identical to the 'Open' dialog, will appear.
3. Click each image you wish to show in your slideshow, one at a time.
4. Digits will appear at the lower right corner of each image's thumbnail,
   denoting what order the images will be shown in.
5. A slider on this screen allows you to set the pace of the slideshow
   (from 'you have to click to go to the next slide', to slow, through to
   fast).
6. Click "Play"


During the slideshow, you can use the Space or Enter keys to go to the next
slide manually.  Or click the "Next" button at the lower left.

Additionally, you can use the Left and Right arrow keys to go back and forth,
respectively.

Press Escape, or click the "Back" button at the lower right to return to
the slide selection screen.


This feature can be used for simple slides, and very basic animation.
(Remember that, normally, Tux Paint asks you if you want to make a new
file every time you click Save.  Make small adjustments to your picture, and
Save it to a new file each time, and voila!  Animation!)


I'm still not sure when Tux Paint 0.9.16 will be released, but hopefully
some time in the next month or so.

In the meantime, the code is available in the CVS repository, so developers
can check it out now and give it a test drive!

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/#cvs


PS - This closes Source Forge "Request For Enhancement" #1070404 :^)
  http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1070404&group_id=66938&atid=516298


-- 
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint website

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I've just registered the domain name "tuxpaint.org" and have placed a copy
of the Tux Paint website there:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/

The old website (at http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/ ) will remain,
and will continue to be updated.

However, obviously this new address is shorter and catchier, so feel free
to tell your friends and family about it.

Also, if you happen to be looking around and notice any problems with either
website, let me know!

Thanks,

-- 
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint on Citrix?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Someone recently discovered that KidPix doesn't work with a Citrix Server
setup, and asked whether Tux Paint would.

I know Tux Paint works with LTSP, and I've heard reports of it working
with Windows Terminal Services[*], so I'm _guessing_ it will work.
But I thought I'd ask around to see if anyone could confirm one way or the
other.

Thanks!

[*] I should really keep track of these things on the "Features" page of
    the Tux Paint website (or maybe a new "Compatibility" page).

-- 
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

[Tuxpaint-users] Tux Paint turns 4 years old today!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I was trying to remember what day the first alpha version of Tux Paint
was released, and when I double-checked, I discovered it was four years
ago _today!_  (Father's Day: Sunday, June 16th, 2002)

Happy birthday, Tux Paint! :^)  Thanks to the 100s of thousands of people
who have downloaded it over the years (over 220,000 for the latest version
released back in November), and the 100s of people who have helped make it
possible!

-- 
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

[Tuxpaint-users] preferences ignored on os x

[Stewart A. <st...@ne...>]

I'm running the latest build (0.9.15) and latest config util on OS X 
10.3.9.  It appears the some preferences are honored (screen size) and 
others are ignored (print command, print dialog alt option, no save 
over).  It is working on another machine and both appear to be 
configured identically.  Can you help me figure out what's going on?  In 
order to print properly, I must get the print config dialog up, but no 
combination of preferences and key-strokes appears to work.  My 
workaround of using an alternate command-line is totally ignored.

Thanks,
Stewart

[Tuxpaint-users] Display text files for Starters + Save directory

[Anna Yuen-W. <aw...@fr...>]

Two questions:
=20
1 - Is there a way to display text files assoicated with Starters?  I =
know that the text files associated with stamps appear below the main =
screen but I have not been successful in displaying the text file =
associated with Starters.  I have created templates for various =
activities and would like to include brief instructions on how to =
complete the worksheet.
=20
2 - Where is the information for the "save directory" stored?  I would =
like to be able to remotely update this information without having to =
run the config on each computer in the lab.  Can this be done?  I use =
ARD (Apple Remote Desktop) to copy Starters and Stamps to all the =
computers but I have to run to each and every computer to change the =
save directory between classes!
=20
Thank you for your time!
Anna

[Tuxpaint-users] (no subject)

[Jim T. <jim...@li...>]

Hi Bill!, et al.
My latest harebrained inspiration is to use tuxpaint to make paper dolls.
I'm thinking of two series at the moment.  Some garments based on fashions
from Harper's Bazaar from the mid to late 1800s, and some simplified kimonos
derived from some 19th century Japanese woodcuts.  I'll redo them all as
original works, but the sources of inspiration should be out of copyright
anyway.

I'm also planning a couple of colouring book starters based on these

Ideally it should be simple to use, but versatile.  And preferably without
turning into a humungous download.  I'd like the users to be able to:

	1/.     Print a doll that they could assemble into a free standing
		model.
=09
	2/.     Print clothing, and maybe wigs and accessories, that they
		could attach to the doll model via paper tabs.
=09
	3/.     Use the doll in tuxpaint via the stamp tool, and stamp
		clothing,wigs, etc directly onto the doll image.
=09
		3/(a)  Modify that (dressed) doll image, and print it out
		so that it can be assembled into a free standing model.
=09=09=09
	4/.     Use the dolls, clothing, wigs, etc as regular tuxpaint
		stamps.
=09=09
I can think of two approaches to this.  The first one is modular.  I would
make some base doll stamps for each series, plus stamps for frocks/wigs/etc.
Then I'd make a stamp a piece for the plinth, brace, shoulder and hip tabs,
etc.  Users could use these to assemble their own dolls.

The second approach is just to be redundant.  I'd make two copies of each
stamp.  One with the plinth/tabs, and one without.

There is only minimal difference in the workload between the two approaches.
Personally I favour the first approach.  Its the most versatile in that the
user can assemble what they want, as they want.  They would also be able to
use the plinth and brace stamps to convert the colouring book starters into
free standing models.  It will have a smaller footprint in the stamps
scrolling list, and less impact on the size of the download.  On the down
side, it will take more planning on the part of the user.  And more adult
supervision, particularly for younger users.

At a WAG, and assuming nothing crops up to further complicate my life and
eat my free time, I estimate about 4 months to turn out 2 Japanese dolls, 2
Harper's dolls, 4 kimonos, 4 frocks, accessories, and 2 starters.

I'd be interested in hearing any comments, opinions, or suggestions.
Particularly about which approach is preferred, and why.  Also if anyone
knows any reason why we shouldn't do this (I'm hoping no one has been
granted a patent on using a computer program to make paper dolls).

I've attached an .svg of the outline rough for the first doll, to give
people a better idea of what I'm rabbiting on about.

Regards,
Jim


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Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Printing from 10.4 network

[Sue M. <mor...@op...>]

Hi Bill,
> Hi Sue - Have you tried holding the [Option / Alt] key when clicking
> 'Print'?
Tried this just now. This will print to the default printer in the 
user's profile. However I was hoping the printer list would come up so 
that you could select the relevant printer (and/or see which printer 
has been made the default) so the process is similar to printing from 
other programs. The children move around the school and the default 
printer changes (especially if we want to choose between colour or 
B&W).

I realise I am asking a lot from a  free program, but it has been so 
well received at school (and kids have told me their parents have 
downloaded it at home), I would like it to have as much ease of use in 
the school setting as possible - 5 year olds up.

Sue Morton
Teacher/Librarian; Computer Co-ordinator
Ermington Public School
Winbourne St
West Ryde  NSW  2114

[Tuxpaint-users] Printing from 10.4 network

[Sue M. <mor...@op...>]

Hi Bill,
We have upgraded our mac 10.3 server and computers to 10.4, but now=20
can't print - well we can press the icon, it says we've printed, but it=20=

goes nowhere. I've looked at the documentation but can't really figure=20=

it out. How do I set up which printer I want to print to? In a school=20
network this might change depending whether the kids are in the lab or=20=

in a classroom, or in the library.
Sue Morton
Teacher/Librarian; Computer Co-ordinator
Ermington Public School
Winbourne St
West Ryde  NSW  2114

=93If you bring in these technologies and don't think ahead to how=20
they'll be used to promote learning and the acquisition of skills, then=20=

the only thing that will change in school is the electric bill,
David Thornburg American public speaker, author and consultant

[Tuxpaint-users] RE: Creating Starter pngs

[Anna Yuen-W. <aw...@fr...>]

Please ignore prevous e-mail.  I finally figured out how to make the =
starter files.
Suggestion:  documentation on this would be nice =3D)
Anna

________________________________

From: Anna Yuen-Wong
Sent: Fri 3/17/2006 9:45 PM
To: tux...@li...
Subject: Creating Starter pngs


I've just discovered Tux Paint and I love it!  I've created stamps =
accompanied by text with ease but now I am trying to convert a worksheet =
into a "Starter doc" and am encountering problems.
=20
I created the png file from a pdf using Adobe Photoshop (save as png -> =
interlace option ON and OFF, tried both) but when I open the worksheet I =
am not able to see any drawing, stamping or entered text on it (when I'm =
entereing the text I see but once I move to another object it =
disappears).  I hear the sound effects as if it is working but it does =
not show up, as if it is layered behind.. like the foreground for the =
coral reef starter image.  How do I fix that?
=20
I'm working on Windows XP using TuxPaint 9.9.15b and Adobe Photoshop =
CS2.
=20
Thanks!
Anna

[Tuxpaint-users] Creating Starter pngs

[Anna Yuen-W. <aw...@fr...>]

I've just discovered Tux Paint and I love it!  I've created stamps =
accompanied by text with ease but now I am trying to convert a worksheet =
into a "Starter doc" and am encountering problems.
=20
I created the png file from a pdf using Adobe Photoshop (save as png -> =
interlace option ON and OFF, tried both) but when I open the worksheet I =
am not able to see any drawing, stamping or entered text on it (when I'm =
entereing the text I see but once I move to another object it =
disappears).  I hear the sound effects as if it is working but it does =
not show up, as if it is layered behind.. like the foreground for the =
coral reef starter image.  How do I fix that?
=20
I'm working on Windows XP using TuxPaint 9.9.15b and Adobe Photoshop =
CS2.
=20
Thanks!
Anna

[Tuxpaint-users] Creating starter pngs

[Anna Yuen-W. <aw...@fr...>]

I've just discovered Tux Paint and I love it!  I've created stamps =
accompanied by text with ease but now I am trying to convert a worksheet =
into a "Starter doc" and am encountering problems.
=20
I created the png file from a pdf using Adobe Photoshop (save as png -> =
interlace option ON and OFF, tried both) but when I open the worksheet I =
am not able to see any drawing, stamping or entered text on it (when I'm =
entereing the text I see but once I move to another object it =
disappears).  I hear the sound effects as if it is working but it does =
not show up, as if it is layered behind.. like the foreground for the =
coral reef starter image.  How do I fix that?
=20
I'm working on Windows XP using TuxPaint 9.9.15b and Adobe Photoshop =
CS2.
=20
Thanks!
Anna
=20
=20

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Chase [...spam]

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:24:30AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> My apologies for the spam. :^(

Agh!  Apparently this list (as well as tuxpaint-stamps and -i18n) were
configured to allow non-subscribers to post whatever and whenever they
wanted. >:^(  It seems I assumed SourceForge.net defaulted them to
'subscribers-only.'  It's been fixed.  I'm very sorry for the trouble! :^(

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-users] RE: Zoo project news 'flash'

[kai <ka...@pe...>]

On Sunday 12 February 2006 03:23 pm, 
tux...@li... wrote:
>  Zoo project news 'flash' (Lieven Van Parys)

Um, just FYI, that attachment didn't come through the listserver. It got 
encoded as a binhex string.  Probably not a good idea to send these through.

-- 
kai 
www.perfectreign.com

linux - genuine windows replacement part

[Tuxpaint-users] Tuxpaint suggestion

[Sue M. <mor...@op...>]

1. Is it possible to have darker/lighter for something you have filled?
2. Can the back arrow be used to fix errors in text rather than=20
deleting eg when the delights forget the capital letter?
3. Is it possible to make the text one has written editable at a later=20=

stage? eg they have written in black, put in a stamp or five and then=20
want to make a black background - now they have to delete the text and=20=

redo.

The kids are having a ball with this newer version - many thanks for=20
all your hard work so far.

Sue Morton
Teacher/Librarian; Computer Co-ordinator
Ermington Public School
Winbourne St
West Ryde  NSW  2114
phone: 02 98744109
fax: 02 98047552
mor...@op...
=93Any teacher that can be replaced by a computer, deserves to be.=94

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Selection tools proposal - feedback wanted!

[Roberto N. <rn...@bl...>]

Hi

> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:02:34AM +1100, Sue Morton wrote:
> 
>>> Bill, This sounds great. I haven't "played" with tux paint for a
>>> while so forgive me if this is already there. How about the
>>> 'moving van' in kidpix to easily and more accurately place
>>> stamps, text etc by using the arrow keys.

This could be good. When my daughter first used the program, she did
have trouble accurately placing these sort of things. I suppose the 
opposite argument is that learning how to this well with the mouse was 
quite useful.

> Adding full keyboard control (mostly for accessibility by those who
> cannot proficiently use a mouse) has been on my 'to-do' list for a
> while.
> 
> I'm also considering joystick input, as a number of 'switch'
> interfaces for disabled people seem to use it.  (Also, this might
> lead to a Dreamcast port, which would be pretty cool ;^) )

Or on an xbox, since it is possible to put Linux on it :-)

Regards
Roberto/.

[Tuxpaint-users] Re: Tuxpaint-users digest, Vol 1 #60 - 3 msgs

[Roberto N. <rn...@bl...>]

Hi everyone

>>Hi,
>>Is it possible to get the standard save option in mac osx - naming  
>>png and picking where to save it?

[snip]

> 2. From a design decision standpoint, Tux Paint was meant to be as easy to
> use as possible, with as little possibility of young children breaking your
> tax paperwork as possible.  That's why I chose to implement
> 'one click[*] to save', and the thumbnail browser for opening saved files.

Indeed, and this is actually a great feature of the program. Both my 
children have been able to reload old "favourites" without any help or 
of course knowing anything about file systems.

So whatever features do get added in this area, don't break the simplicity!

Roberto/.

[Tuxpaint-users] saving

[Ken K. h. <Kk...@co...>]

Hi,
Is it possible to get the standard save option in mac osx - naming  
png and picking where to save it?
Thanx
kkauth

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Selection tools proposal - feedback wanted!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 11:34:53PM +0100, Lieven Van Parys wrote:
> Hello,
> The easiest way to select for children is to 'paint' the selection with a 
> 'brush'.

Ah, great idea!  I've joked about incorporating SIOX.  Perhaps some day...? :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Selection tools proposal - feedback wanted!

[Lieven V. P. <lie...@sk...>]

Hello,
The easiest way to select for children is to 'paint' the selection with a=
=20
'brush'.
Many greetings
Lieven Van Parys

Visit my zoo-project
 http://www.sip.be/stamand/zooproject/zoo.htm


---------------------------------------------
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Moerasstraat 11
8760 Meulebeke
Belgi=EB / Belgium

Website: http://www.sip.be/stamand/school.htm
New project: 'ZOO'
 http://www.sip.be/stamand/zooproject/zoo.htm

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Selection tools proposal - feedback wanted!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 11:36:20AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> The selection tools themselves would be some of the typical ones we're
> used to from other drawing programs:
> 
>   * Rectangular selection
>   * Oval selection
>   * Freehand ("lasso") selection
>   * Fuzzy ("magic wand") selection (select-by-color)  [this one is a 'maybe']
>   * Stamp selection [*]

Additionally, it occurs to me that we'd probably want a big "Plus" and
"Minus" button, for adding-to and removing-from the current selection.

So in the end, we'd have buttons like this on the right
(when the 'scissors' icon on the left was clicked):


  Rectangle            Dashed

  Lasso                Fuzzy (magic wand)

  Stamp

  Plus                 Minus      <-- these toggle
                                      (both off, plus on or minus on)

  Cut                  Copy       <-- these do the action immediately,
                                      then go back to the previous mode

  Paste                           <-- switches to pasting mode, similar to
                                      Stamps tool

and at the bottom, these become active when in pasting mode:

  Scale slider .................
  Mirror               Flip


-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Selection tools proposal - feedback wanted!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:02:34AM +1100, Sue Morton wrote:
> Bill,
> This sounds great. I haven't "played" with tux paint for a while so  
> forgive me if this is already there. How about the 'moving van' in  
> kidpix to easily and more accurately place stamps, text etc by using  
> the arrow keys.

Adding full keyboard control (mostly for accessibility by those who cannot
proficiently use a mouse) has been on my 'to-do' list for a while.

I'm also considering joystick input, as a number of 'switch' interfaces
for disabled people seem to use it.  (Also, this might lead to a Dreamcast
port, which would be pretty cool ;^) )

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Thumbnails of "Starter" Image

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 03:22:21PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> It seems the issue here is that the image was actually a black blob on
> a white background.  The white, along with most of the black, was made
> transparent using an 'alpha' channel.  (The transparency is necessary in
> Tux Paint starter images, at the moment.)
> 
> What's happening is the code in Tux Paint that generates the thumbnail
> loses the 'alpha' aspect of the image, and simply thumbnails what's left.

Well, two hours later, I finally got the right combination of SDL calls and
other code in there to get it working right. :^)

  http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/tuxpaint/.message/82f6

Thanks again for pointing this out to me.  In the past, I've had a lot of
control over the PNGs that Tux Paint tries to load (either because they
were stuff I shipped (stamps, starters, etc.), or because Tux Paint actually
saved them in the first place).  Obviously, this meant some corner cases
weren't being tested thoroughly enough. ;^)


-bill!