indic-computing-users — Discussing the usage of indian language capable tools

Re: [Indic-computing-users] unicode

[Viveka N. K <vi...@la...>]

Sorry.. I got the problem.
I used the converter to convert iscii to unicode. This converter
is only for hindi. ie it converts the iscii characters to the
hindi unicode format. So, it displays only the hindi strings.
Now I need to convert the tamil po files to tamil unicode (UTF-8)
characters. I hope it will display the tamil menus.

Thanks for the responses. I will try it and get back to you.

GK:}On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:59:10 +0530 (IST)
GK:}Viveka Nathan K <vi...@la...> wrote:
GK:}
GK:}>   I converted the iscii mo files (in hindi) to Unicode with the
GK:}>   above
GK:}> convertor. To view the menus in hindi, I loaded the raghindi font
GK:}> from control center. when I set the font, it display only boxes.
GK:}> What could be the problem ?
GK:}> 
GK:} Did you install the unicode mo files in proper place viz
GK:}/usr/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES or
GK:}/usr/share/locale/hi_IN/LC_MESSAGES
GK:} & set the locale to hi or hi_IN after setting the font ( export
GK:}LANG=hi_IN  )?
GK:}
GK:}Regards,
GK:}Karunakar
GK:}

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Re: [Indic-computing-users] OTF font

[Viveka N. K <vi...@la...>]

All the mo files are encoded for UTF-8 format.
I am using Mangal and Raghu font for Hindi and 
Latha font for Tamil.  Even if I set the Latha
font, it is displaying only Hindi characters.

On Yesterday Guntupalli Karunakar wrote to Vivek :

GK:}On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:58:31 +0530 (IST)
GK:}Viveka Nathan K <vi...@la...> wrote:
GK:}
GK:}> Hi all,
GK:}>  I have the mo files for kde, both for tamil and hindi.
GK:}>  When I set the font for tamil, it is displaying tamil strings in
GK:}>  hindi. Even for hindi it is displaying the hindi strings with hindi
GK:}>  font. I changed the font in the control center of KDE.
GK:}>  What might be the problem ?
GK:} How are the mo ( or po ) files encoded, if 8bit ,ie ISCII or some
GK:}font encoding, then setting font from control center forces all
GK:}controls to use that font, so everything will appear in that font. And
GK:}what font are you using ?
GK:}
GK:}Regards,
GK:}Karunakar
GK:}
GK:}

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[Indic-computing-users] ISO 15919 standard for Transliteration of Indic scripts

[Mita <mi...@au...>]

Hi everybody,
 
Maybe one day we will understand just what you guys talk about!!!  :-
)))
 
Search for Narada and Sivaram fonts for Sanskrit has revealed nothing
yet.  If someone still remembers, please let me know.
 
Getting help on the diacritics question; thanks to LinuxLingam, keeping
fingers crossed that it works.
 
Raj, you had sent the Latex CD; but I have to admit, since our computer
technician left to do his BTech/BSc in Computer Science in Germany, I
haven't had the courage myself to try it out.  I had tried to read the
book and felt it rather complicated.  Need to get up the courage to try.
Don't one of you guys want to come and visit Auroville?   Incidentally,
still dream one day of trying out Linux.  
 
Anyhow, here is the link for the ISO 15919 standard for the
transliteration of Indian languages. It is
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stone-catend/translit.htm   . I don't know
if transliteration has ever been a topic of discussion in this forum. If
so, Tapan, how do I access those discussions?  I'll be interested to
know what you all think of this standard.
 
Finally, in case any of you are interested in some opentype fonts
created specially for transliteration, do check out
http://bombay.oriental.cam.ac.uk <http://bombay.oriental.cam.ac.uk/>
Dr. John Smith has created these (using Latex) and it seems they
"provide all the glyphs (character shapes) needed for work in Indian and
related languages via Roman script."  They also implement that ISO 15919
standard for the transliteration of Indian languages, and thanks to him
for bringing it to our attention.  There is an FTP site where you can
download them and the programs that made them.  I'm still trying to
download them and I hope it won't be complicated to try them out.
 
 
How is work on the language handbook going?  Who is in charge of that?
 
 
Cheers
 
Mita
For Auroville Language Lab

[Indic-computing-users] Re: gnumeric

[Jody G. <jo...@gn...>]

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 04:15:23PM +0530, jitendra wrote:
> Dear Jody and Fredrick
> I have translated the glossary and some messages for gnumeric in marathi
Lovely, please send over whatever you have so that I can merge it
into the next release.  What glossary ?

> I want some support for continuing .Trying ....
> gnumeric is a crucial step.
The best bet will be to use the garnome build scripts to generate
all the libraries necessary.

> may I know the work using pango for indian scripts.
> Which version of pango and what has been achieved.
We are not terribly particular about which version of pango we use.
Both 1.0.x and 1.1.x have been tested.

> I have akruti fonts converted from ttf to otf. I need to test the same.
I'm unfamilar with 'otf' or why you'd need to convert ttf into
something.  Pango (via freetype) should be able to support ttf
directly.

> Can we collaborate.
Certainly.  Many thanks for your work.  I look forward to having
gnumeric tested for indic locales.

There is quite a bit of work
    - translating
    - testing import/export of spreadsheets with indic script (eg xls files)
    - input method support
    - locale features (default date format, currency etc)

Re: [Indic-computing-users] OTF font

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...>]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:58:31 +0530 (IST)
Viveka Nathan K <vi...@la...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>  I have the mo files for kde, both for tamil and hindi.
>  When I set the font for tamil, it is displaying tamil strings in
>  hindi. Even for hindi it is displaying the hindi strings with hindi
>  font. I changed the font in the control center of KDE.
>  What might be the problem ?
 How are the mo ( or po ) files encoded, if 8bit ,ie ISCII or some
font encoding, then setting font from control center forces all
controls to use that font, so everything will appear in that font. And
what font are you using ?

Regards,
Karunakar

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[Indic-computing-users] OTF font

[Viveka N. K <vi...@la...>]

Hi all,
 I have the mo files for kde, both for tamil and hindi.
 When I set the font for tamil, it is displaying tamil strings in hindi. 
 Even for hindi it is displaying the hindi strings with hindi font.
 I changed the font in the control center of KDE.
 What might be the problem ?

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[Indic-computing-users] adobe indesign help

[LinuxLingam <lin...@bh...>]

hi mita,

this is regaring your request for help in adobe indesign.
i understand the product and have used it extensively since its pre-release 
days.
will get in touch with you offline at this published email id.

LL

[Indic-computing-users] Re: [PRC] GNU/Linux in Hindi: KDE and IIT-Madras (fwd)

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

Thanks to Raju for asking a very relevant question, while discussing this
on the PRC (project resource centre) mailing list, set up to put potential
programmers in touch with socially useful projects. FN

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    Fred> This is a note I received from Dr Hema A Murthy
    Fred> <he...@la...> of IIT-Madras. Anyone wanting to
    Fred> know more or get involved in the Indianisation of GNU/Linux
    Fred> could get in touch with her. Thanks, FN

    Fred> On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Hema A Murthy wrote:

    >> Yes, we will do that.  We have completed the localisation to
    >> Hindi with appropriate .po and .mo files created.  I do not
    >> think we have updated the website - we will do it asap (by Dec
    >> 13th).  -hema

    >> From he...@la... Sun Dec 8 10:42:05 2002

    Fred> We have KDE applications customised for Hindi under linux.
    Fred> -hema

I'd appreciate if someone would put some effort into figuring out how
to encode the Devnagari font developed by two school students, Avneesh and
Shivaas, in Unicode.  The font is available for download from
http://linux-delhi.org/ .  Avneesh and Shivaas would also like some
tips and hints on how to make their product more effective and
better-looking (ligatures, hinting, whatever you experts do to sharpen
fonts).

Regards,

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[Indic-computing-users] Query: Free font for Malayalam...

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

Any reports on how this is progressing? FN

http://www.apdip.net/news/malayalam/index.htm
Free Font For Malayalam
Abstract

The role of Information Communication Technologies (ICT) in common man^=D2s=
=20
life is increasing. However, only a small fraction of people are able to=20
utilize the benefits. A major barrier in the promotion of computer usage in=
=20
a country like India is largely due to the fact that there are hardly any=
=20
software in any of the Indian scripts. In a country where nearly one third=
=20
of the population lives below $1/day, the cost of ICT applications is still=
=20
prohibitively expensive. The cost of ICT applications is primarily due to=
=20
two costs; the hardware cost and the software costs. While hardware costs=
=20
have been coming down and are inevitable to a certain extent, software=20
costs have not acted as a major constraint in applying ICT applications in=
=20
developing countries.

The free software movement has been addressing the issue of making=20
available information to all as a basic right. While some basic software=20
are today available in free downloadable forms over the Internet, these=20
software do not cater to the fonts in Malayalam, which is the language of=
=20
30 million Keralites in Kerala and at least 10 million outside.

The project proposes to create free software with local language=20
(Malayalam) support in accordance with the established standards so that=20
ICT applications can be made available at low cost in the language of the=
=20
people. Further, the developed codes are proposed to be made available on=
=20
the Internet so that people can not only freely use them but also develop=
=20
on them.

Specifically, the project aims to create Free Font for Malayalam, create=20
toolkit (toolkits are basic building blocks in creating Graphical User=20
Interface based applications) with Malayalam support, and create a=20
localised desktop and office productivity applications and documentation in=
=20
Malayalam. This will surely help in ICT penetration in Kerala, spur=20
development of similar fonts on free software for other local languages in=
=20
India and other parts of Asia Pacific, create the base for further=20
development in software with local language support thus enabling a larger=
=20
segment of the population to enjoy the benefits of information technology.

Background and Justification of the Project
ICT has potential to play an important role in improving the life of common=
=20
man in a developing country. Many initiatives have already been taken in=20
this regard. At the same time it is also true that only very few people are=
=20
able to take advantage of ICT and the high costs of hardware and software=
=20
are in certain ways perpetuating the development divide through a digital=
=20
divide. A minority population, that is able to afford the high cost, are=20
able to benefit from the ICT revolution and a large majority is getting=20
further marginalized in the process.

Two major reasons for this digital divide are:

Non availability of content in regional languages

The high cost of software.

Kerala is one of the southern states of India lying nearly 9 to 13 degrees=
=20
North and having a population of nearly 30 million out of which nearly 74%=
=20
live in rural area (2001 census). It is important to note that the rural=20
population has gone up from 73.5% to 74% during 1991 to 2001. Apart from an=
=20
elected State Legislature, the State also has multi-layered elected local=
=20
bodies. There are 992 Grama Panchayats (Village level councils) and 58=20
Municipal Councils and Corporations representing the rural and urban areas=
=20
respectively. Kerala, known as ^=D1God^=D2s own country^=D2 for its natural=
 beauty=20
and which makes it one of the top tourist destinations of the world, has=20
also initiated various programs/steps to make the benefits of information=
=20
technology reach common people through innovative projects. Although Kerala=
=20
has a literacy level of 90.92% (2001 census) (male 94.20% and female=20
87.86%), the population connected to Internet remain shockingly below 1%,=
=20
the issues relating to lack of connectivity remain a big problem.

Today, Malayalam enabled software is scarce. Those available are for Word=
=20
Processing alone. Malayalam usage in computers is limited to using the=20
computer as an electronic typewriter and for publishing. The major reason=
=20
for this is the lack of Operating Systems supporting Malayalam. To add to=
=20
this, the Malayalam font system for the global standard ^=D6 the Unicode - =
has=20
not been built. As a result, it is not possible to have an ICT=20
infrastructure with Malayalam support.

Another issue is the very high cost of proprietary software. If Malayalam=
=20
font is developed in proprietary software, the cost of the same will make=
=20
it prohibitively costly for using it on a larger scale. Low income=20
populations will in particular, find it exceedingly difficult to use the=20
resulting system, thus making the digital divide even more dominant. The=20
alternative proposed is the development of local content in free Software.=
=20
Freedom associated with free software enables one to make modifications to=
=20
it (to support Malayalam) and make it available to people around the world.

Project Objectives
The benefits of Information Technology are reaching only a very small=20
minority, thus creating a digital divide. The two major issues here are=20
lack of availability of software with local language support and the very=
=20
high cost of software.

This Project aims to reduce this digital divide by creating localised=20
versions of free software. This project will create Free Font for=20
Malayalam, create a toolkit (toolkits are basic building blocks in creating=
=20
GUI based applications) with Malayalam support, create localised desktop=20
and office productivity applications and documentation in Malayalam. This=
=20
will create the base for further development in software with local=20
language support, thus enabling a larger segment of the population to enjoy=
=20
the benefits of information technology.

Further, the developed codes are proposed to be made available on the=20
Internet so that people can not only freely use them but also develop on th=
em.

Project Benefits/ Beneficiaries
The project foresees various benefits arising out of it. The direct impact=
=20
arising out of this would be large-scale development of content in local=20
language. Additionally, the content would be more participative and,=20
therefore, more localized in terms of needs and requirements, issues and=20
solutions etc. Inspite of having more than 90% literacy for over one=20
decade, the Kerala state continues to remain low on PC and Internet=20
penetration in the country. Development of local content for a state like=
=20
Kerala, with high literacy will lead to change in the society and economy.

Some important aspects are

Usage: Tools in ICT will become more and more accessible to people who=20
don^=D2t know English but know to read and write Malayalam. This implies=20
access to majority of people in Kerala.

Education: Education for majority in schools is in Malayalam language. This=
=20
will be enable development of educational software in local language.

Date archiving: Archiving of vast amount of data available becomes=20
possible. The knowledge archiving and retrieval is the major application of=
=20
ICT. Till now we are forced to use English language to archive our=20
knowledge, our history. This has inherent limitations.

Economic: This will also help in development of new ICT enabled services in=
=20
local languages etc.

e-Governance: Support for local language becomes easy for all the=20
e-governance programs of the Government.

Apart from benefits arising to Kerala, the project will have lessons for=20
developing similar fonts in other local languages. Asia Pacific, rich in=20
culture and languages cannot be dependent on English alone. Indian alone=20
has 17 official languages. The experience gained through this project will=
=20
encourage other similar efforts in other languages.

Project Sustainability
The software developed by the Project will be loaded free on the Internet=
=20
enabling anyone interested to download it and use it. It will also enable=
=20
others interested in it, to develop it further so that there is an ongoing=
=20
mechanism to upgrade the software. This would ensure continuous ongoing=20
upgrading of software and its long-term sustainability.

Project Methodology
The aim of the project is to create a comprehensive set of software for=20
computing in the local language. The Project involves the following tasks:

Font: The first step in bringing a new language to computers is creating a=
=20
font for that language. The font contains information about shape of=20
characters in that language. This project aims to create a font based on=20
Unicode character encoding scheme. Unicode is the new standard to encode=20
data from languages around the world. It is the most accepted standard now.=
=20
During the development of this font, creation of font encoding scheme for=
=20
Malayalam is also necessary. Lack of a font-encoding scheme is now an issue=
=20
for development of more fonts for Malayalam.

Toolkits: Indian languages have got a special property of change in shape=
=20
of characters depending on context. Hence, these languages are referred to=
=20
as complex ^=D6 text languages. All the software using graphical interface =
are=20
built using some Toolkit. Toolkits are basic building blocks in creating=20
software. Localisation of the toolkits will make the creation of Malayalam=
=20
supported software easier. The work will be on a cross platform GUI toolkit=
=20
called GTK. A major component in this is to create a renderer for Malayalam=
=20
and adding Malayalam support for freely available toolkits.

Localisation of Applications: Localisation of software involves developing=
=20
localized applications on common utilities like Office suite, Desktop, and=
=20
other productivity applications.

Localising Desktop + Basic Applications ^=D6 Involves packaging and=20
application translation. This task can be started only after making toolkit=
=20
work.

Localisation of Office Applications ^=D6 Involves localizing office=20
productivity applications like Word processor, Presentation application,=20
Spreadsheet, Groupware. Additional packages like Vector and Raster Graphic=
=20
tools, Plotting, Project Management, Finance, Diagramming, Communication=20
etc. can be added.

Internet Applications ^=D6 This task consists of localizing basic Internet=
=20
tools like Browser (Translation), Mail client, IRC, Instant Messenger.

Database ^=D6 Localised sorting support will be implemented. Postgre SQN wi=
ll=20
be used as the database and modifications will be made in to it.

Localising terminal applications ^=D6 This is mainly for people who want to=
=20
use machines with low resource and without graphic interfaces.

Documentation: Manuals are essential for suitable documentation and for a=
=20
new user to get started with the application. These Manuals will be=20
developed in both English and Malayalam. Translation of these manuals will=
=20
help a lot of people who want to learn and use computer themselves.
K-BIP & FSF India has initiated some work in the aforesaid direction. The=
=20
present work includes work on customizing the GNU/Linux (Free Operating=20
System) to support Malayalam.

Project Timeline/ Phases/ Team
Nine months encompassing font development, toolkits, localization of=20
applications and project documentation.

The Project is divided into four phases. The first phase is Font=20
development and this activity involves 1 Programmer, 1 Graphics Expert and=
=20
1 Draftsman. The second phase is the building of Toolkits and this involves=
=20
3 Programmers. The third phase is the Localization of Applications in which=
=20
9 Programmers, 1 Translator and 3 Data Entry Operators will be involved.=20
The fourth phase is the Documentation and 1 Language Translator, 1 Proof=20
Reader and 1 Data Entry Operator will be involved in this phase.

Project Outputs
This Project will create a Free localized GNU /Linux Desktop system. The=20
components of this will be:

A Malayalam Font

Localised Toolkit for Malayalam

A collection of commonly used Applications (Word Processor, Email client,=
=20
Browser, Database etc.)

Documentation for the software in Malayalam

Project Monitoring
The Output of this project is a collection of software. The evaluation and=
=20
monitoring will be done with the help of National Informatics Centre, which=
=20
is the apex institution in the area of Computing and Information Technology=
=2E

The Font must contain all glyphs from the ISFOC Standard for Malayalam. And=
=20
the encoding will have to be Unicode based. The Toolkits will be verified=
=20
by creating sample graphical applications using the same. Usually the test=
=20
code will be available with Toolkit. The test programs will be in 'C'=20
programming language.

Localization of Application will be verified by looking through all the=20
messages of the application in the message database.

Documentation will be verified with help of a language expert by comparing=
=20
it with the original document in Malayalam. Random Samples will be taken=20
for this.

Project Implementors

Implementing Organisation ^=D6 Kerala Bureau of Industrial Promotion (K-BIP=
)=20
is a non-profit autonomous body under aegis of the Industries Department of=
=20
the Government of Kerala. It is envisaged for promoting the potential=20
industrial activity in the state of Kerala. It is the state level agency=20
for Asia Pacific Centre for Transfer of Technology (UN-APCTT), responsible=
=20
for transfer of technology for SMEs. It is also involved in promoting=20
e-governance in Kerala through various initiatives like online applications=
=20
for various Government applications, online payment for Government payments=
=20
etc. The project is being carried out in close coordination with Secretary,=
=20
Information Technology, Government of Kerala.

Partner Organisation - The Free Software Foundation is a world-renowned=20
organisation founded by Richard M. Stallman in the USA in 1984. FSF=20
believes that all software should be free as software is information and=20
the withholding of information is wrong and a denial of a human right. The=
=20
first FSF Chapter in India was started in India in Trivandrum, Kerala.

Project Management
The Project Team will be headquartered in the State Capital,=20
Thiruvananthapuram. The Project Director and Coordinator is the Chief=20
Executive of K-BIP and Secretary (Industries) Government of Kerala. The=20
Project Director will oversee the work of two Project Managers who, in=20
turn, will steer the other members of the Project Team. The Chief Executive=
=20
of K-BIP is Secretary (Industries), Government of Kerala.

For further information, please contact:
Mr. Ajay Kumar
Secretary to the Government of Kerala Industries Department/
Executive Director, Kerala Bureau of Industrial Promotion
Sri Ganesh', T.C. IX/2197
Kurup's Lane, Sasthamangalam
Trivandrum - 695010, Kerala, India
Tel: 91-471- 333028
Fax: 91-471- 311883
Email: kum...@ya...
 =20

[Indic-computing-users] gnumeric

[jitendra <jit...@vs...>]

Dear Jody and Fredrick
I have translated the glossary and some messages for gnumeric in marathi
.
I will send you the same .
I want some support for continuing .Trying ....
gnumeric is a crucial step.
may I know the work using pango for indian scripts.
Which version of pango and what has been achieved.
I have akruti fonts converted from ttf to otf. I need to test the same.
Can we collaborate.
I will send you all I have. I am collaborating with Nagarjuna of
HBCSE/TIFR.
Jitendra

[Indic-computing-users] Typing Unicode Tamil - help

[<al...@ya...>]

Please reply to  el...@we...
Message on news:netscape.public.mozilla.i18n


Hi everyone! Vanakkam.

I am an ethnic Tamil from Malaysia. Only few days ago I discovered 
Mozilla, and have since become a convert and, probably, an evangelist 
:-) I see a lot of potential in Mozilla! Unfortunately, Mozilla is yet 
to be localised in my native tongue, Tamil.

Anyway, in order to get a 'feel', I downloaded MT 5.02 (thanks  Henrik 
Lynggaard!) and followed the instructions given in the documentation 
that came along with it. Everything was fine, except that I am not able 
to type in Tamil characters -- whether in Unicode Tamil (Latha) or the 
standard Tamil encoding, TSCII 1.7.

I know for most of you Tamil will be as alien as Martians are to 
earthlings, but if you could give me some leads -- any leads -- it will 
be of great help, and much appreciated.

Cheers,
elan


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Fwd: RE: [Indic-computing-users] Narada and Sivaram fonts for Sanskrit

[<al...@ya...>]

sending this to the list.

 --- Mita <mi...@au...> wrote: > From: "Mita" <mi...@au...>
> To: "'Alok Kumar'" <al...@ya...>
> Subject: RE: [Indic-computing-users] Narada and Sivaram fonts for Sanskrit
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:02:49 +0530
> 
> Hi Alok and others,
>  
> Thanks for the response :- But, the objective is simply to read and
> print Sanskrit question papers using those two fonts; the document
> doesn't display correctly because their system doesn't have them...
> Otherwise the SanskritNew font is pretty adequate to store texts
> electronically.will try Raghu too.
>  
> While searching for them, (still haven't found them tho), I came across
> a wonderful page giving links to a whole lot of indic fonts; please try
> this wonderful compilation :-
>  
> 1.        <http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/indic.html> Indic language fonts
> 
> 
> Indic language font links, compiled by Luc Devroye.
> cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/indic.html
> or
>  
> http://jeff.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/index.html
> http://jeff.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/fonts.html
>  
> Another question :-
> Is there anybody on this list who has worked with Adobe Indesign laying
> out any indic documents?  Would like to get in touch with you off list.
> We are facing a real problem laying out our book on Spoken Tamil which
> includes diacritics.  
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Mita
> For Auroville Language Lab
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alok Kumar [mailto:al...@ya...] 
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:49 AM
> To: mi...@au...
> Subject: Re: [Indic-computing-users] Narada and Sivaram fonts for
> Sanskrit
>  
>  --- Mita <mi...@au...> wrote: > Hello everybody,
> > Does anybody know where I could download (hopefully for free) the
> > "Narada" and "sivaram" fonts for Sanskrit.  One of the Kendriay
> > Vidyalayas of Pondy has received Model Question Papers for Sanskrit (I
> > think from NCERT) which are in Narada, Sivaram and Shreelipi fonts.  I
> > managed to locate Shreelipi but unfortunately it is not free.I'm
> hoping
> > Narada and Sivaram are.
> > Still searching, but if anybody has the links and can send them, that
> > would be great
>  
> Mita,
> I think you should be more interested in finding out whether the fonts
> are
> unicode encoded or not, particularly if your objective is to store text
> electronically. The fonts may look good but it there's no point having
> them if
> they are not displayable using a standard format.
> Try http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/download for the Raghu font.
>  
> Alok  
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[Indic-computing-users] Webpage in Indian Languages

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

This might be of interest to the Indic computing list. FN

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Sharmad Naik wrote:


> hi,
> 	There r some pointers regards to postgresql db and tamil fonts on the google site, Couldn't get much out of it,Maybe you might find it useful
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=postgresql%20tamil&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
> 
> couldn't find on mysql and tamil
> 
> Regards
> Sharmad
> 
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:20:48 -0000
> "Srinivasan Prasanna" <sr...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I am based in Lansing MI and have undertaken a project in creating a 
> > webpage in Tamil and the client prefers to have his page done using 
> > dynamic tamil fonts. We are thinking of using Linux as our server and 
> > php/perl/cgi as the scripting tool with Mysql database. Does Mysql 
> > have a tamil DB at all? I have never worked with any other language 
> > websites and would like to know how different the coding is for this 
> > type of language pages. Any help/pointers/directions from your end 
> > will be appreciated.
> > Thanks Much
> > Sri
> > 
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[Indic-computing-users] Re: call for localisation 1pager (fwd)

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

Thank you very much Jody. I will circulate for the attention of all
interested. There surely must be many interested and convinced about the
importance of such a task. The challenge is to find them! FN
PS: There's a lot happening on the Indianization of GNU/Linux, but the
efforts need to be further coordinatated. My friends Tapan Parikh, Joseph
Koshy, Karunakar, Vijay Pratap and others were sitting down on the lawns
of the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore during the LB/2002 meet to
discuss this very issue... unfortunately I had to run to catch a bus back
to Goa. Maybe some of them could update us all on the trends planned.

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Jody Goldberg wrote:


> On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 09:35:31AM +0530, Frederick Noronha wrote:
> > Dear Jody, Am sending you copies of some IndicComputing material, put
> > together by a friend of ours Karunakar, who is at the forefront of this
> > campaign. Thanks for your time and attention. Frederick
> 
> Interesting.  As you collect people interested in helping please
> send them my way.  I'd love to get gnumeric ready for use in various
> indian locales.  We now use pango which should help with basic
> script display.  However, getting the input method handling right
> and having the documentation (we have alot of documentation)
> translated is a huge task.
> 
> thanks
>     Jody
> 

[Indic-computing-users] Narada and Sivaram fonts for Sanskrit

[Mita <mi...@au...>]

Hello everybody,
Does anybody know where I could download (hopefully for free) the
"Narada" and "sivaram" fonts for Sanskrit.  One of the Kendriay
Vidyalayas of Pondy has received Model Question Papers for Sanskrit (I
think from NCERT) which are in Narada, Sivaram and Shreelipi fonts.  I
managed to locate Shreelipi but unfortunately it is not free.I'm hoping
Narada and Sivaram are.
Still searching, but if anybody has the links and can send them, that
would be great
Thanks
Mita
For Auroville Language Lab

[Indic-computing-users] no localisation talks?

[Tapan P. <ta...@ya...>]

I saw on the mailing list that there was a dearth of
localisation talks at Bang Linux...  Couldnt we do
something for Indic-Computing, talking about some of
our initiatives (documentation, font development,
etc...)?

Koshy, are you available for this?  You could give the
same talk as at the Indic workshop.  

Maybe out of this we could get some volunteers to
pitch in....

Venky, where are you?

-- Tapan (in Trivandrum)

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Re: [Indic-computing-users] Re: [PRC] Linux in Hindi

[Avneesh / S. <fon...@re...>]

i dont think introducing linux in hindi would be a  bad idea..if u 
go and make a posiive decison, we're here to make the font of ur 
choice ;)
do tell about the latest developments on this topic

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Frederick Noronha wrote :
>Interesting note on GNU/Linux in Hindi. FN
>
>On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, H S Rai wrote:
>
>
> > As I understand  a workable solution is avialable for  persons 
>to work
> > in Hindi under Linux.
> >
> > http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/
> >
> > But people  are still expecting M$  to bring things in  Hindi 
>and will
> > wait for his releases.
> >
> > Mine observation is that, solutions  are available, but people 
>fail to
> > use  them. One  reason is  ignorance  or  lack of  awareness. 
>In  this
> > connection Print Media can play a  major role and I would 
>request them
> > to print such  articles  not only  in sections/pull-outs  
>specifically
> > devoted to computers, but also in general sections.
> >
> > Now, if  there is any  shortcoming in hindi  version of linux,  
>let us
> > suggest projects to remove those limitations and make it 
>popular.
> >
> > Even, in  general, after going  through some articles on  
>internet (in
> > response  to LG's  Linux preloaded  PC), writes  express 
>doubts  about
> > Linux's capability as "desktop" PC. Press  can also help in 
>countering
> > such propaganda. What a normal user  want from desktop PC?  
>Email, web
> > browsing, instant  message, office  suite ( document,  
>spreadsheed and
> > slide ),  listening of songs,  watching movies, playing games  
>and all
> > such things and much more is there on Linux.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Indic-computing-users] Re: [PRC] Linux in Hindi

[Avneesh / S. <fon...@re...>]

i dont think introducing linux in hindi would be a  bad idea..if u 
go and make a posiive decison, we're here to make the font of ur 
choice ;)
do tell about the latest developments on this topic

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Frederick Noronha wrote :
>Interesting note on GNU/Linux in Hindi. FN
>
>On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, H S Rai wrote:
>
>
> > As I understand  a workable solution is avialable for  persons 
>to work
> > in Hindi under Linux.
> >
> > http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/
> >
> > But people  are still expecting M$  to bring things in  Hindi 
>and will
> > wait for his releases.
> >
> > Mine observation is that, solutions  are available, but people 
>fail to
> > use  them. One  reason is  ignorance  or  lack of  awareness. 
>In  this
> > connection Print Media can play a  major role and I would 
>request them
> > to print such  articles  not only  in sections/pull-outs  
>specifically
> > devoted to computers, but also in general sections.
> >
> > Now, if  there is any  shortcoming in hindi  version of linux,  
>let us
> > suggest projects to remove those limitations and make it 
>popular.
> >
> > Even, in  general, after going  through some articles on  
>internet (in
> > response  to LG's  Linux preloaded  PC), writes  express 
>doubts  about
> > Linux's capability as "desktop" PC. Press  can also help in 
>countering
> > such propaganda. What a normal user  want from desktop PC?  
>Email, web
> > browsing, instant  message, office  suite ( document,  
>spreadsheed and
> > slide ),  listening of songs,  watching movies, playing games  
>and all
> > such things and much more is there on Linux.
> >
> >
>
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[Indic-computing-users] Re: [PRC] Linux in Hindi

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

Interesting note on GNU/Linux in Hindi. FN

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, H S Rai wrote:


> As I understand  a workable solution is avialable for  persons to work
> in Hindi under Linux.
> 
> http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/
> 
> But people  are still expecting M$  to bring things in  Hindi and will
> wait for his releases.
> 
> Mine observation is that, solutions  are available, but people fail to
> use  them. One  reason is  ignorance  or  lack of  awareness. In  this
> connection Print Media can play a  major role and I would request them
> to print such  articles  not only  in sections/pull-outs  specifically
> devoted to computers, but also in general sections.
> 
> Now, if  there is any  shortcoming in hindi  version of linux,  let us
> suggest projects to remove those limitations and make it popular.
> 
> Even, in  general, after going  through some articles on  internet (in
> response  to LG's  Linux preloaded  PC), writes  express doubts  about
> Linux's capability as "desktop" PC. Press  can also help in countering
> such propaganda. What a normal user  want from desktop PC?  Email, web
> browsing, instant  message, office  suite ( document,  spreadsheed and
> slide ),  listening of songs,  watching movies, playing games  and all
> such things and much more is there on Linux.
> 
> 

Re: [Indic-computing-users] font problem...no respone

[Dr. U.B. P. <pav...@vi...>]

Where is the font? Can I take a look?

-Pavanaja

> hi,
> i'm sure u must be knowing about the hindi font which we created
> and licensed it under LGPL, well there is a catch to it that
> whenever the font is  installed under a PC running on Windows 
> 98,
> the font is not read in hindi but is read in english ie. "the
> quick brown fox...etc" and the copyright comes as that of
> microsoft..!
> so this font is unusable under a pc running on windows 98..! so 
> is
> there anyway to convert the font to be compatible with windows
> 98?
> please help , need advice urgently
> 
> 
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[Indic-computing-users] font problem...no respone

[Avneesh / S. <fon...@re...>]

hi,
i'm sure u must be knowing about the hindi font which we created
and licensed it under LGPL, well there is a catch to it that
whenever the font is  installed under a PC running on Windows 
98,
the font is not read in hindi but is read in english ie. "the
quick brown fox...etc" and the copyright comes as that of
microsoft..!
so this font is unusable under a pc running on windows 98..! so 
is
there anyway to convert the font to be compatible with windows
98?
please help , need advice urgently


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[Indic-computing-users] Re: Searching for info on GNU/Linux in Asia...

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Jody Goldberg wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:08:43AM +0530, Frederick Noronha wrote:
> > Thanks Jody. You'll really must give a greater importance to the Third
> > World. This is where you're going to see a whole lot of interest in
> > GNU/Linux coming up in the years ahead. Thanks for the products you'll put
> > out. Frederick
> 
> Please don't misunderstand me,  I don't discount it 2nd or 3rd world
> input, I just don't have much domain experience to offer there.
> Gnumeric internationalization relies heavily on native users to
> provide feedback and patches to keep it working smoothly for
> non-Canadians.

Hi Jody, Thanks for your note. I appreciate your point. The problem we
face here is that many potential developers don't know whom to link up
with, or where. If that link could be built, it would benefit us in the
Third World and also widen the reach of GNU/Linux. Permit me to copy this
to our IndicComputing mailing list. Thanks for your time. Are you based in
Canada? Could you give us a list of Gnome coordinators working on i18n?
--
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[Indic-computing-users] NEWS: IIT Bombay develop new multilingual search engine

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

---------- Forwarded message ----------

from deccan herald/ Nov 27
Breaking the language barrier in IT:

IIT Bombay develop new multilingual search engine

From Devika Sequeira
vicki at goatelecom dot com

DH News Service

PANAJI, Nov 26

Move over Google. A team of researchers from the Indian Insititute of Technology Bombay, says it has developed a search engine for the internet that is both multi-lingual as well as meaning specific, giving it a broader applicability and greater accuracy than existing models.

"Our search engine eliminates the language barrier and its results are much more accurate than any other techniques used," says Dr Pushpak Bhattacharya, Prof Computer Sciences and Engineering Department, IIT Bombay. Using Universal Networking Language (UNL), "the model has integrated the user's language requirement with the knowledge the user seeks," he points out.

In a paper to be presented at the ongoing International Conference on Universal Knowledge and Language here, Dr Bhattacharya and his team of students, Sarvjeet Singh, Tushar Chandra, Upmanyu Misra and Ushhan D Gundevia argue that their search engine retrieves only the knowledge that is relevant and attempts to bridge the language gap by using an underlying, structured language as a backhand translator. "As far as we know, we are the first to employ this technique," they say.

Google, widely believed to be the best search engine, is restricted only to English. According to an estimate by the World Wide Web, English language content makes for about 80 per cent of the trillion and trillion bytes of textual information on the internet. Though other language content is also catching up rapidly -- specially Chinese and South Asian languages -- the digital divide between nations and people is still huge.

It is in the backdrop of this that the United Nations began the UNL project in 1996. The universal networking language is simply put, an electronic language. It uses an EnConverter software to automatically convert natural language text into UNL. Thirteen languages so far, including Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indonesian, English, Hindi, Marathi, Arabic, Italian, Russian, French, Spanish and Portuguese have deconverters in place that automatically translates them to other languages. With a lakh concepts in place, English boasts of the largest wordnet, so far.

IIT Bombay which is in the process of developing translation software for Hindi, Marathi and Konkani has developed 15,000 concepts so far for Hindi, says Bhattarcharya. He points to the immense extension of the reach of the internet, once computer translations of languages become availbale at the click of the button./ends

[Indic-computing-users] Discussion from BG Linux localisation list

[Frederick N. <fr...@by...>]

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   Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:14:57 +0530 (IST)
   From: Atul Chitnis <ach...@ex...>
Subject: LB/2002 - no interest from LLI?

All:

I am a bit puzzled with the lack of response from people here on 
localization talks. We effectively have 2 talks from Karunakar in the 
localization track, that's it. A third talk was scrapped since the speaker 
insisted that he would only be able tot alk if we have guaranteed internet 
connectivity at the place (which we cannot guarantee).

Is Dr U B Pavanaja still around? 

Atul

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   Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:31:25 +0530
   From: "Dr. U.B. Pavanaja" <pav...@vi...>
Subject: Re: LB/2002 - no interest from LLI?

I am very much around. But I have nothing to speak. 
I can only say "this can be done, this has to be 
done", etc. but I can not say "this has been done" 
;-(. Pity.

-Pavanaja


> All:
> 
> I am a bit puzzled with the lack of response from people here on
> localization talks. We effectively have 2 talks from Karunakar in the
> localization track, that's it. A third talk was scrapped since the
> speaker insisted that he would only be able tot alk if we have
> guaranteed internet connectivity at the place (which we cannot
> guarantee).
> 
> Is Dr U B Pavanaja still around? 
> 
> Atul
> 
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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:50:16 +0530
   From: Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@fr...>
Subject: Re: LB/2002 - no interest from LLI?

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:31:25 +0530
"Dr. U.B. Pavanaja" <pav...@vi...> wrote:

> I am very much around. But I have nothing to speak. 
> I can only say "this can be done, this has to be 
> done", etc. but I can not say "this has been done" 
> ;-(. Pity.
> 
 How abt talk on Opentype fonts or font design on Linux .

Regards,
Karunakar

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Anon

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*  Linux Bangalore/2002            *
*  Technology for a Free World     *
*  December 3/4/5, 2002            *
*  http://linux-bangalore.org/2002 *
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