indic-computing-users — Discussing the usage of indian language capable tools

[Indic-computing-users] hint! hint!

[LinuxLingam <lin...@bh...>]

hi all,

when it comes to indic font development, i see an iceberg ahead.

there seems to be not sufficient expertise or knowledge-sharing, when it 
comes to hinting.

in fact the problem is two-fold:

1) we must develop type-set quality, professional fonts, not just 
"functional" fonts.

for this we must have our glyphs expertly designed, with a good and sensitive 
understanding of curves, weights, proportions, ink-trapping, 'readablity', 
style-consistency, etc.

2) then, we must hint them correctly. and test them on different rendering 
engines and devices, at different resolutions, especially coarse and/or low 
resolutions.

i find it more important to have a high-quality, professional-typeset ready 
font, with a limited glyph-set, rather than one with a huge glyph-set, but 
with lack of these two important fundamentals.

on this, i propose the following action:

we must announce and hold another indic font development workshop. focussed 
*just* on expert glyph design, and on hinting, how to hint, hinting methods, 
hinting tools, hinting rocket science, hinting issues, hinting renderings in 
different software, hinting testing, and so on.

imagine the scale of the problem we may create, if we encourage lots of 
people to start developing fonts, without these two basic issues solidly 
understood and without teaching and sharing these concepts and techniques.

whaddya say, guys?

hint: say yes.

:-)
LL

Re: [Indic-computing-users] OT Fonts for Oriya

[Vijay P. S. A. <vi...@ek...>]

>
>
>I have completed the initial work in converting two of the Akruti Oriya
>fonts into OT format.
>They can temporally be got from here:
>http://www.btinternet.com/~exnet/Downloads/odia.htm
>
>I will complete the conversion of the 'ori2' fonts in the next week or so.
>
>The fonts could do with a good name (they are currently called ori1Uni)
>
>I will not be making any changes to these fonts after there final release
>except in response to bug fix requests. This is because I am currently
>concentrating on making sets of Indic fonts with original designs. 
>
>Andy
>

Hi Andy,

If you may recall recently the Indic-Font workshop was held in 
Bangalore, which looked into the issue of development of otf. After the 
workshop it was decided to give focussed attention to each language and 
build the language resources and take up localisation projects besides 
offcourse developing OT fonts. I would request you to take up the 
getting together of the oriya language community. Already initiatives 
have been taken by Punjabi, Hindi and Bengali language regional group 
for organisation of the community in these languages. I am currently in 
Bhopal discussing for support for Hindi regional group and I am happy to 
inform you and other groups that for a hindi group initiative people are 
getting together in M.P. along with sponsorship. I shall soon be posting 
on the framework for the regional workshop for feedback by the community.

best

vijay

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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:52:03 +0600
   From: Mustafa Jabbar <an...@bd...>
Subject: Paper in the Unicode Conf

Dear All,

I ahve found a lot of interest in our NRB's about Bangla. Here is a mail from Unicode Consortium bellow. It can be beneficial to Bangla if someone places a paper on Unicode Standards in Bangla.

I contacted Unicode and found that the paper placing can not be a problem. But Unicode does not bear the cost of the presenter. Can any GROUP, ASSOCIATION, ORGANISATION think of sponsoring the presenter?

May be I can help in writing the paper.
Thanks and ragrads
Msuatafa Jabbar


UNICODE MAIL

Subject:IUC24 Call for Papers - September 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia
Date:Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:26:02 -0700
From:Barbara Jarzyna <in...@gl...>
To:in...@gl...

Hi folks,

Yes, it is time to get thinking about the September Unicode conference in Atlanta, please see the information below and check out the website for
conference themes and suggested topics for papers.  Submissions are due May 2.

Thank you,

Lisa

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Call for Papers!  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Send in your submission now!  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

                    Submissions due: May 2, 2003
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[Indic-computing-users] OT Fonts for Oriya

[Andy <And...@bt...>]

Hi,
I have completed the initial work in converting two of the Akruti Oriya
fonts into OT format.
They can temporally be got from here:
http://www.btinternet.com/~exnet/Downloads/odia.htm

I will complete the conversion of the 'ori2' fonts in the next week or so.

The fonts could do with a good name (they are currently called ori1Uni)

I will not be making any changes to these fonts after there final release
except in response to bug fix requests. This is because I am currently
concentrating on making sets of Indic fonts with original designs. 

Andy

[Indic-computing-users] Debate from the Pune GNU/Linux list...

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 02:16:28 +0530
From: G Karunakar <kar...@fr...>
To: plu...@pl...
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Typing in devanagari/ Keyboard layout
Reply-To: plu...@pl...

Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  I am once been bitten by this bug to edit devanagari/marathi documents.
> 
> I have enabled hindi keyboard in KDE control centre and install code2000 and 
> raghu fonts. Using these, I am able to type in marathi in kedit/kword etc. 
> pretty easily.
> 
> But I lost as far as keyboard layout is concerned. Can anybody point me to 
> right direction?
> 
Since above fonts are unicode ones, you need unicode keymaps, best are 
the Inscript keymaps, available at 
http://www.indlinux.org/keymap/keymaps.php
XFree86 4.3 onwards has all the inscript keymaps included, older X ( 4.1 
, 4.2 ) also have devanagari map. See /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/dev
(you can find others like tam, guj, gur, kan, tel etc also )

I personally like inscript, you can type your name in other scripts too 
:), apart from that once learnt its very easy to type & fast.
Initially many prefer phonetic/romanised systems but in long run if you 
want to write in your language inscript is the best.

Regards,
Karunakar


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Re: [Indic-computing-users] OpenType Compiler

[G K. <kar...@fr...>]

Dr. U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
> Has anyone tried this-
> http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~slam/fonts/otcomp.html

Not yet, just about to :)

Regards,
Karunakar

[Indic-computing-users] OpenType Compiler

[Dr. U.B. P. <pav...@vi...>]

Has anyone tried this-
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~slam/fonts/otcomp.html

Rgds,
Pavanaja-----------------------------------------------------
Dr. U.B. Pavanaja
Editor, Vishva Kannada
World's first Internet magazine in Kannada
http://www.vishvakannada.com/

Note: I don't worry about pselling mixtakes

[Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

I think Elx has a problem because their distro doesn't work with Gnome 
(for reasons of space) and Milan works only with Gnome. Isn't it? FN

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 ve...@vs... wrote:


> The IndLinux web site is at www.indlinux.org and the Milan Hindi interface we have developed is a 1.5MB download from this web site. We would be very happy to see Milan included with the Elx CD.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Venky
> 
> 
> fr...@by... wrote
> Dear friends at Elx: Thanks for the copies of your CDs, which I am yet to 
> evaluate here, but am intent on understanding why your product has got 
> such good reviews overseas (among the top ten on www.distrowatch.com when 
> last checkec) and is yet so little known in India.
> 
> I do wish we would do more justice to home-grown efforts.
> 
> While on this point, you probably know that the IndLinux project has come 
> out with a Hindi version of Gnome. Would it not be possible for Elx to 
> become the first distro in the world to include this officially as part of 
> its CD? You would be doing all of us, and the effort to spread computing 
> across the second-most populous country on the planet. Above all, perhaps 
> it would make good business sense too. FN
> 
> PS: Please see the Indic Computing network on Sourceforge.net for a whole 
> lot of Indian language computing solutions and attempts. Perhaps we knokw 
> much less than what is happening across India. It's great to see so many 
> different language groups and specialists collaborating with each other...
> 

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Re: [Indic-computing-users] Re: Indic-computing-users digest, Vol 1 #186 - 3 msgs

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...>]

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:06:44 +0530
"Pritam Nahar" <pr...@re...> wrote:

> Sunil,
> 
> It seems there is some problem in the information you posted
> regarding "Font Cases from Lawrence Liang".
> Can you please post it again.
> 
 You are subscribed in digest mode, so didnt get the attachment
properly.
 anyways I have it , will mail you directly.

Regards,
Karunakar

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[Indic-computing-users] Re: Indic-computing-users digest, Vol 1 #186 - 3 msgs

[Pritam N. <pr...@re...>]

Sunil,

It seems there is some problem in the information you posted regarding "Font
Cases from Lawrence Liang".
Can you please post it again.

Regards,
Pritam Nahar

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> From: =3D?iso-8859-1?q?Alok=3D20Kumar?=3D <al...@ya...>
> Subject: Re: [Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product
> To: "Frederick Noronha \(FN\)" <fr...@by...>,
>   "in...@el..." <in...@el...>
> Cc: Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@ne...>,
>   Ind...@li...,
>   "Venkatesh \(Venky\) Hariharan" <ve...@vs...>,
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>
> > Is Indix the same thing as IndLinux's initative described below...? FN
>
> No, it is not.
> http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Indic-Fonts-HOWTO/
> http://geocities.com/alkuma/linux
>
> Indix is a script rendering engine for X.
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>
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> Message: 2
> From: ve...@vs...
> To: fr...@by...
> Cc: Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@ne...>,
> "" <Ind...@li...>,
> "Venkatesh (Venky) Hariharan" <ve...@vs...>,
> "" <lin...@li...>
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:58:41 +0530 (IST)
> Subject: [Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product
>
> The IndLinux web site is at www.indlinux.org and the Milan Hindi interface
we have developed is a 1.5MB download from this web site. We would be very
happy to see Milan included with the Elx CD.
>
> Regards,
>
> Venky
>
>
> fr...@by... wrote
> Dear friends at Elx: Thanks for the copies of your CDs, which I am yet to
> evaluate here, but am intent on understanding why your product has got
> such good reviews overseas (among the top ten on www.distrowatch.com when
> last checkec) and is yet so little known in India.
>
> I do wish we would do more justice to home-grown efforts.
>
> While on this point, you probably know that the IndLinux project has come
> out with a Hindi version of Gnome. Would it not be possible for Elx to
> become the first distro in the world to include this officially as part of

> its CD? You would be doing all of us, and the effort to spread computing
> across the second-most populous country on the planet. Above all, perhaps
> it would make good business sense too. FN
>
> PS: Please see the Indic Computing network on Sourceforge.net for a whole
> lot of Indian language computing solutions and attempts. Perhaps we knokw
> much less than what is happening across India. It's great to see so many
> different language groups and specialists collaborating with each other...
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> Message: 3
> From: Sunil Abraham <su...@ma...>
> To: indic <ind...@li...>
> Cc: Lawrence Liang <law...@vs...>
> Date: 11 Apr 2003 05:47:45 +0530
> Subject: [Indic-computing-users] Font Cases from Lawrence Liang
>
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> Dear Gang!
>
> Here are some font cases from Lawrence for your ref.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sunil
>
> P.S. Hope the attachment goes through
> --
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[Indic-computing-users] Font Cases from Lawrence Liang

[Sunil A. <su...@ma...>]

Dear Gang!

Here are some font cases from Lawrence for your ref.

Thanks,

Sunil

P.S. Hope the attachment goes through
-- 
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MAHITI Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
'Reducing the cost and complexity of ICTs'
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Ph/Fax: +91 80 4150580. Mobile: 98455 12611
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[Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product

[<ve...@vs...>]

The IndLinux web site is at www.indlinux.org and the Milan Hindi interface we have developed is a 1.5MB download from this web site. We would be very happy to see Milan included with the Elx CD.

Regards,

Venky


fr...@by... wrote
Dear friends at Elx: Thanks for the copies of your CDs, which I am yet to 
evaluate here, but am intent on understanding why your product has got 
such good reviews overseas (among the top ten on www.distrowatch.com when 
last checkec) and is yet so little known in India.

I do wish we would do more justice to home-grown efforts.

While on this point, you probably know that the IndLinux project has come 
out with a Hindi version of Gnome. Would it not be possible for Elx to 
become the first distro in the world to include this officially as part of 
its CD? You would be doing all of us, and the effort to spread computing 
across the second-most populous country on the planet. Above all, perhaps 
it would make good business sense too. FN

PS: Please see the Indic Computing network on Sourceforge.net for a whole 
lot of Indian language computing solutions and attempts. Perhaps we knokw 
much less than what is happening across India. It's great to see so many 
different language groups and specialists collaborating with each other...
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Re: [Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product

[<al...@ya...>]

> Is Indix the same thing as IndLinux's initative described below...? FN

No, it is not.
http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Indic-Fonts-HOWTO/
http://geocities.com/alkuma/linux

Indix is a script rendering engine for X. 
What indlinux localises, indix can display.




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9th Main, 47th Cross, Jayanagar V Block
Bangalore 560076 India +91-80-653-8200
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-hindi/
Can't see Hindi? http://geocities.com/alkuma/seehindi.html
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[Indic-computing-users] Re: Elx Linux... an Indian product

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

Is Indix the same thing as IndLinux's initative described below...? FN

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, in...@el... wrote:


> Hi Frederick,
> 
> We are happy to inform you that we are currently  including indix in  ELX powerdesktop  ,  in a months time ELX will be supporting indix .
> 
> Rgds
> Meena


>From fr...@by... Wed Apr  9 22:43:49 2003

http://linuxpr.com/releases/5732.html
                    ___________________________________

   IndLinux.org announces launch of Hindi interface for computers 
     Apr 3rd, 12:19 UTC 

   IndLinux.org's Milan software enables Hindi users to use computers in
   their own language, a major leap forward in bringing the benefits of
   information technology to Indian masses

   IndLinux.org announced the launch of IndLinux Milan v0.37, a Hindi
   interface to Gnome, the graphical user interface (GUI) of the
   GNU/Linux operating system. The software is available as a free
   download from the Web site www.indlinux.org. With IndLinux Milan v0.37
   installed, those who can read and write Hindi can now use computers in
   their own language.

   The organization said that this is a major step forward in bringing
   the benefits of information technology to the 400 million people who
   speak the Hindi language. Prakash Advani, co-founder of IndLinux.org
   said that the organization has been working on localizing the
   GNU/Linux operating system to Hindi for the last three years.
   Localization involves changing the menus and other elements of the
   graphic user interface from English to Hindi.

   "Hindi is the third largest language in the world, yet there are no
   operating systems available in this language. IndLinux.org therefore
   decided to make Hindi support available for free to create a
   revolution in Indian Language Computing," said Advani.

   As the world becomes increasingly digitized, Indian Language audiences
   need to be brought into the mainstream of the digital revolution so
   that they can also reap the socio-economic benefits of information
   technology. The IndLinux Milan software is expected to plug a critical
   gap in the market, since popular operating systems and software are
   available only in English which is spoken by a mere five percent of
   India.

   IndLinux Milan v0.37 works on Red Hat Linux v8.0 and the organization
   is working on porting it to other distributions of the GNU/Linux
   operating system. Advani said that they chose the name Milan (Hindi
   for "Union") because it signifies the inclusion of India's Hindi
   speaking masses into the mainstream of the digital age.

   As the cost of computers fall, the biggest bottleneck to the
   widespread use of computers is the availability of Indian language
   software. By making the software available free of cost, Indlinux.org
   hopes that information technology will reach each and every part of
   India. IndLinux.org is a voluntary, non-profit effort that has been
   supported by Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd, a Mumbai-based technology
   company. After having localized GNU/Linux to Hindi, the organization
   hopes to localize the GUI to Marathi, Gujarati and other Indian
   languages.

   To download the Milan software (a 1.5MB download) click on
   [3]www.indlinux.org/downloads/index.php. Screenshots and pictures of
   the operating system can be downloaded from
   [4]www.indlinux.org/hindi/gnome/gnome20.html.

   For more details, contact:

   Prakash Advani,
   Co-founder, IndLinux.org,
   C/o Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
   402, Peninsula Chambers (Morarjee Mills Compound),
   Ganpat Rao Kadam Marg,
   Lower Parel (W), Mumbai 400 013.
   Tel: +91 22-5662 8000 Mobile: +91-98202 82922
   Fax: +91 (22) 56628134
   E-mail: prakash1 at netcore.co.in
   Web: [5]www.indlinux.org
     _________________________________________________________________

   (Submitted by [6]Prakash Advani of [7]FreeOS)
 
 
> Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote:
> >
> >Dear friends at Elx: Thanks for the copies of your CDs, which I am yet to 
> >evaluate here, but am intent on understanding why your product has got 
> >such good reviews overseas (among the top ten on www.distrowatch.com when 
> >last checkec) and is yet so little known in India.
> >
> >I do wish we would do more justice to home-grown efforts.
> >
> >While on this point, you probably know that the IndLinux project has come 
> >out with a Hindi version of Gnome. Would it not be possible for Elx to 
> >become the first distro in the world to include this officially as part of 
> >its CD? You would be doing all of us, and the effort to spread computing 
> >across the second-most populous country on the planet. Above all, perhaps 
> >it would make good business sense too. FN
> >
> >PS: Please see the Indic Computing network on Sourceforge.net for a whole 
> >lot of Indian language computing solutions and attempts. Perhaps we knokw 
> >much less than what is happening across India. It's great to see so many 
> >different language groups and specialists collaborating with each other...
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> >
> 
> 

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[Indic-computing-users] Elx Linux... an Indian product

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

Dear friends at Elx: Thanks for the copies of your CDs, which I am yet to 
evaluate here, but am intent on understanding why your product has got 
such good reviews overseas (among the top ten on www.distrowatch.com when 
last checkec) and is yet so little known in India.

I do wish we would do more justice to home-grown efforts.

While on this point, you probably know that the IndLinux project has come 
out with a Hindi version of Gnome. Would it not be possible for Elx to 
become the first distro in the world to include this officially as part of 
its CD? You would be doing all of us, and the effort to spread computing 
across the second-most populous country on the planet. Above all, perhaps 
it would make good business sense too. FN

PS: Please see the Indic Computing network on Sourceforge.net for a whole 
lot of Indian language computing solutions and attempts. Perhaps we knokw 
much less than what is happening across India. It's great to see so many 
different language groups and specialists collaborating with each other...
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[Indic-computing-users] Telugu fonts issue... (From Bangalore LLI list)

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:13:00 +0100 (BST)
   From: Alok Kumar <al...@ya...>
Subject: Re: telugu utf-8 fonts (was:problem inakruti.com)

Hi Kiran,
> hi,=20
> When I tried to download fonts from akruti.com "error while downloading
> ::" . Can any body give me some other link to download telugu fonts for
> yudit. preferably. GPL'd .=20
>=20
Unfortunately, I don't know of any gpl'd fonts, but here are some:

http://www.kavya-nandanam.com/dload.htm
Nice site, too.

http://home.att.net/~jameskass/
Not sure if the font is complete

Gautami font
Comes with Windows xp - check it out on any xp machine, or you could email =
me.

Are there any other? That's all I know of.=20
Hope they serve your purpose. Have you been using yudit for other scripts
before?

Regards
Alok

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Alok Kumar
F1, Wireless Monitoring Station Compound,
9th Main, 47th Cross, Jayanagar V Block
Bangalore 560076 India +91-80-653-8200
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-hindi/
Can't see Hindi? http://geocities.com/alkuma/seehindi.html
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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 06:27:38 -0000
   From: =E0=A4=86=E0=A4=B2=E0=A5=8B=E0=A4=95 =E0=A4=95=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=AE=
=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=B0 Alok Kumar <al...@ya...>
Subject: telugu utf-8 encoded fonts (was: problem inakruti.com)

Hi Kiran,
> ::" . Can any body give me some other link to download telugu fonts for
> yudit. preferably. GPL'd .=20
>=20

I don't know of any gpl'd telugu fonts, however, here are some others:

http://www.kavya-nandanam.com/dload.htm
Nice site. pothana font, freeware, author requests acknowledgement in
work using font.

http://home.att.net/~jameskass/
code 200 font, don't  know if it's complete.

gautami font
comes with winxp, email me for more details.

That's all I know of. Are there any others?
Let us know which ones worked for you. If they do, perhaps you could
write a small howto that gaspar sinai can add to the yudit
page/download so others don't have the same problems you had.

Regards
Alok

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:01:40 +0530
   From: Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@fr...>
Subject: Re: problem inakruti.com

On 07 Apr 2003 21:22:54 +0530
Kiran Kumar Chava <ki...@in...> wrote:

> hi,=20
> When I tried to download fonts from akruti.com "error while
> downloading::" . Can any body give me some other link to download
> telugu fonts for yudit. preferably. GPL'd .=20
>=20
Akruti gpl fonts are at http://www.fsf.org.in/software/software.html
 I have encoded the Tikkana TTF ( a gpl'ed font ), to unicode, wanted
to make it opentype. but not worked on it for a while.

Regards,
Karunakar

--=20
Hating people is like burning down your house to get rid of a rat -
Anon

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[Indic-computing-users] NEWS: Indlinux.org announced launch of Hindi interface for computers

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

------------------------------------------------------------------
INDLINUX.ORG ANNOUNCES LAUNCH OF HINDI INTERFACE FOR COMPUTERS

IndLinux.org's Milan software enables Hindi users to  use
computers in their own language, a major leap  forward in
bringing the benefits of information  technology to Indian masses

COMPLETE STORY:
http://linuxpr.com/releases/5732.html

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[Indic-computing-users] An important story... in India

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

---------- Forwarded message ----------


Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Sukrit D <sd...@ya...>
Subject: IndLinux.org releases Hindi interface for Gnome

IndLinux.org releases Hindi interface for Gnome

Alastair Otter
April 4 2003

IndLinux.org today announced the launch of IndLinux
Milan v0.37, a Hindi interface to Gnome, the graphical
user interface (GUI) of the GNU/Linux operating
system. The software is available as a free download
from the Web site www.indlinux.org. With IndLinux
Milan v0.37 installed, those who can read and write
Hindi can now use computers in their own language.

The organisation says this is a major step forward in
bringing the benefits of information technology to the
400 million people who speak the Hindi language.
Prakash Advani, co-founder of IndLinux.org says the
organisation has been working on localizing the
GNU/Linux operating system to Hindi for the last three
years. Localisation involves changing the menus and
other elements of the graphic user interface from
English to Hindi.

"Hindi is the third largest language in the world, yet
there are no operating systems available in this
language. IndLinux.org therefore decided to make Hindi
support available for free to create a revolution in
Indian Language Computing," says Advani.

As the world becomes increasingly digitised, Indian
Language audiences need to be brought into the
mainstream of the digital revolution so that they can
also reap the socio-economic benefits of information
technology. The IndLinux Milan software is expected to
plug a critical gap in the market, since popular
operating systems and software are available only in
English which is spoken by a mere five percent of
India.

IndLinux Milan v0.37 works on Red Hat Linux v8.0 and
the organization is working on porting it to other
distributions of the GNU/Linux operating system.
Advani said that they chose the name Milan (Hindi for
"Union") because it signifies the inclusion of India's
Hindi speaking masses into the mainstream of the
digital age.

As the cost of computers fall, the biggest bottleneck
to the widespread use of computers is the availability
of Indian language software. By making the software
available free of cost, Indlinux.org hopes that
information technology will reach each and every part
of India. IndLinux.org is a voluntary, non-profit
effort that has been supported by Netcore Solutions
Pvt. Ltd, a Mumbai-based technology company. After
having localized GNU/Linux to Hindi, the organization
hopes to localize the GUI to Marathi, Gujarati and
other Indian languages.

Screenshots of the system in action can be found at
www.indlinux.org/hindi/gnome/gnome20.html.  

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Re: [Indic-computing-users] From Bangalore...

[Krishnamurthy N. <kn...@ya...>]

>    Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 06:51:59 -0000
>    From:  Alok Kumar
> <al...@ya...>
> Subject: Re: Your problems in viewing and creating
> Indic content
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> > * create to do lists
> > * prioritize tasks on the todo list
> > * divide the tasks so that they become manageably
> small.
> 
> Was thinking of what kind of documentation someone
> who doesn't know
> English and doesn't know linux would want to start
> off, and came
> across this:
> 
> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
> 
> Do you think it would be a good idea to translate
> this? Do you know any other equivalent (or better) >
> documents for beginners?
> 

I had a look and it could be a good start. Another
approach could be like what Sudha Murthy (Infosys
Foundation) did. She wrote a small intro book in
Kannada on computers (of course, PCs running Win*) 
and how to use them in day-to-day life for basic
purposes. Some such small book could be written as
intro to Computers and Linux for those who don't know
English and who don't know computers. Of course, if
it's written in one Indian language, it will have to
translated into other Indian languages too (at least
some).

Nagarajan


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Re: [Indic-computing-users] [cross-posted] HT on indic font

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...>]

On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 15:51:14 +0530
LinuxLingam <lin...@bh...> wrote:

> 7th april, today's Hindustan times delhi edition, has a short
> article "Experts chart future of Indian fonts" written by niyam
> bhushan.
> 
> the article talks about the recently concluded indic font design and
> 
> development workshop that took place in bangalore.
> 
Here is the link :)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/printedition/070403/detTEC04.shtml

> the troubleshoot column on the same page also headlines how to go
> about  installing linux on laptops and handheld devices.
> 
This at 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/printedition/070403/detTEC05.shtml

Regards,
Karunakar

-- 
Hating people is like burning down your house to get rid of a rat -
Anon

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* http://www.indlinux.org *
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[Indic-computing-users] Re: Telugu localisation - anyone interested ?

[Vijay P. S. A. <vi...@ek...>]

Dear Atul

on wed, 02 april 2003, you wrote:

>Telugu OCR is under development. Further progress on Telugu OCR
>is being done by our own Nikhil and Chandrakanth.
>I hope we are not fragmented into language fanaticism and are willing
>to share the progress in adopting and localizing Linux.
>
>Want to have a workshop on that? Keep in touch.
>
Recently Indic-Font workshop was organised in Bangalore and it was 
decided to have regional consultations for each language and all issues 
involved in each language should be considered in these these workshop. 
I have taken the liberty of including your name in the regional workshop 
for Telugu. May be Univ. of Hyderabad can take up initative to get the 
Telugu group together. A framework for these regional workshops would be 
circulated shortly.

regards

vijay

[Indic-computing-users] From BLUG-LLI...

[Frederick N. (FN) <fr...@by...>]

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Subject: Re: Your problems in viewing and creating Indic content

Hi,
> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
We started work on the Hindi translation, the current state of the
translation is at
http://geocities.com/linuxparichay
If you wish to contribute or know someone who'd like to contribute,
have a look at=20
http://geocities.com/linuxparichay/kaise.html
If you have any ideas or suggestions, please post them here.
The current list of contributors is also available on this page.
If you are interested in translations to another language, let us know
how we can help.
If you'd like to translate using the Hindi version as base, the
document would be ready by 30th October 2003. If you'd like it to get
over faster, please contribute.

Alok




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[Indic-computing-users] Action points First National Indic-Font Workshop, March, 2003

[Vijay P. S. A. <vi...@ek...>]

  Hi All,

First National Indic-Font workshop, organized by Indic-Computing 
Consortium was held from 28th to 30th March 2003 at PES Institute of 
Technology, Bangalore. The workshop went on well although with some 
initial hiccups. The workshop was to accommodate 30 participants, but 
last minutes entries took the no.s to 36, in the interest of 
participation they were included as participants. There were some 
initial problems as one of the expected sponsorship did not come by, but 
finally we were able to go ahead with the workshop without any major 
problem.

We are thankful to all the sponsors especially PES Institute of 
Technologies, Bangalore provided excellent space for smooth conduct of 
workshop and computers for Lab for font development, Sarai, New Delhi to 
help us move ahead by accommodating our last minutes requests and 
DeepRoot Linux for all the ground work put by there team. Dr. Pavanaja 
who shared his time even though having a small accident just few days 
before workshop and Karunakar, Arun & Nagarjuna for providing their time 
and support. A special thank is due to participants from Nepal & 
Bangladesh Mr. Amar Gurung & Mr. Mustafa Jabbar for sharing their 
experiences and promise of continued support to Indic-Computing 
Consortium in future also.

The three days of deliberations and action points are as under.

best

vijay

-- 

Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya
ekgaon technologies
email: vi...@ek...
website: http://www.ekgaon.com

Action points First National Indic-Font Workshop March 2003
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Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vi...@ek...>


First National Indic-Font workshop, organized by Indic-Computing 
Consortium was held from 28th to 30th March 2003 at PES Institute of 
Technology, Bangalore. The Indic-Computing Consortium is an initiative 
of software developers, businesses and academic institutions to evolve 
appropriate standards, resources and technologies for the 
Indic-Computing community. The Indic-Computing Consortium is designed as 
a national-level participatory organisation that serves as a common 
forum for discussion, information exchange and advocacy on behalf of all 
parties interested in the development of Indic Language Computing.

The workshop second in series was attended by 36 participants from 
various languages & technology groups across India, Nepal & Bangladesh. 
This workshop was an outcome of deliberation held in the first 
Indic-Computing workshop held in September 2002 at Bangalore. One of the 
working groups formed at the first Indic-Computing workshop was for 
development of OTF (OpenType Fonts) & other font related issues, 
encoding, language standardization and representation in international 
consortium. One of the action point and agenda for the group was to 
Hold OTF training workshop for developing major Indic language OTF fonts.

The idea was to get the community together for:

i. Developing good look fonts
ii. Development of open source tools for rendering and hinting of OTF 
fonts (currently OTF development uses proprietary tools)
iii. Finding font developers for all Indian languages and coordinating 
group for each language
iv. Making available fonts to be converted to OTF

The workshop addressed above issues and others as enclosed in the 
workshop program (please see the website), through presentations, 
discussions & Lab/training sessions over three days. This was the first 
workshop on the subject, while it focused on OTF, it equally shared 
concerns of open standards community and talks, demos and training 
sessions of open source tools, as well as various alternative 
technologies for Indic fonts were done by some of the participants. The 
copyright/patent issue on OTF was also discussed, and concerns of 
community were answered by Mr. Lawrence Liang, (Expert on Cyber Laws) 
with a caution that the topic is debatable and much would be clear after 
the pending case of Adobe in USA courts is decided.

Summary of Three days:

The three days of deliberations included:

1) Introduction to Indic scripts, Character set, tools & Glyph Design, 
Testing glyphs, was given Ravi Pande, Font Designer, who dealt in depth 
on design of glyphs and generating of fonts & on font formats.
2) Encoding & PfaEdit sessions were taken by Karunakar G, Project Leader 
IndLinux.org, Pramod R of Mahiti & Asmita S. Khobragade of HBCSE. 
Karunakar further elaborated on why OTF hold the answer to some of the 
problems of developers as of now.
3) Dr. U B Pavanaja of Vishva Kannada Softech, discussed the OTF issues 
and described the standards, Open Type Tables and VOLT. The use of VOLT 
to develop OTF was demonstrated; during Lab participants used VOLT to 
get a hands on experience of the tool.
4) Arun M of FSF, demonstrated localized Knoppix in Malayalam and also 
discussed on the issues in Malayalam fonts and display of some special 
characters.
5) Amar Gurung, Director, Nepali Font Standardization Project of Madan 
Puraskar Pustakalaya [MPP], Kathmandu, Nepal, shared the problems in 
standardizing Nepali Font the developments done this far. He shared a CD 
on the project status and the work done (The CD content is now part of 
workshop CD distributed to the participants)
6) Mustafa Jabbar, of Ananda Computers, Dhaka, Bangladesh shared his 
work of 15 years in Bangla (Bengali) fonts. He claimed that a low cost 
software application Bijoy which his company has developed has covered 
95% of market in Bangladesh and is much famous in West Bengal, India 
also. He has also designed the Bangla keyboard that is now a default 
keyboard standard for Bangla.
7) Karunakar took sessions on TTX & talked about issues in fonts on 
Linux while Dr. Pavanaja showed digital signing of fonts. Aditya Gokhale 
of CDAC, took session on hinting of fonts.
8) Nagarjuna G of HBCSE, shared his experience of converting TTF fonts 
offered by Akruti to OTF and shared his experiments in using available 
open source tools to achieve good results.
9) IPR (cyber laws) lawyer Lawrence Liang of Alternate Law Forum, 
discussed the crucial and much debated issue of OTF openness 
(copyright/Patent) after understanding the Adobe & Microsoft agreement 
on release of the fonts. While answering concerns of community Lawrence 
cautioned that the topic is debatable and much would be clear after the 
pending case of Adobe in USA courts is decided.

Conclusion:

At the end of the workshop its was proposed to take up the issues that 
have emerged at more depth through regional consultations on each 
language so that focused attention is their and local & regional groups 
also get chance to participate and discuss there issues. We propose to 
take up these Regional Language Workshops in future across different 
parts of India, Nepal & Bangladesh and other regions with languages of 
Indic origin. These workshops would be coordinated by regional language 
groups (see proposed group) and would include training programs and 
technology demonstration sessions besides getting the language community 
together.

Regional Language Working Groups:

It was proposed to take up the initiative for having these regional 
workshops through voluntary and community efforts. An individual 
commitment on part of participants was requested to involve there energy 
in development of these regional groups and also to discuss with these 
respective organization to release atleast two fonts in each language in 
open domain. Many participants gave the commitment to take the 
initiative and also to get their organization involved in the 
initiative. The following Regional Working Groups are proposed (to be 
confirmed), these groups would take initiative and involve other 
regional partners and build common understanding of major issues to be 
discussed in the Regional Workshops. A framework for proposed Regional 
Workshop would be circulated soon for feedback and action by these 
groups. We invite volunteers who would take upon to hold these workshops 
and provide coordination & logistics support and sponsors to contribute 
to development of regional languages. The Indic-Computing Consortium 
would provide necessary technical support and capacity building to these 
regional groups.

Hindi

Ravi Kant, Sarai, New Delhi, <rav...@sa...>
Maryivan, Sarai, New Delhi <ma...@sa...>
Niyam Bhusan, New Delhi <lin...@bh...>

Kannada

Dr. U B Pavanaja, Vishva Kannada Softech, Bangalore 
<pav...@vi...>
PES Institute of Technology, Bangalore, Karnataka
Central Institute of Indian Languages, Mysore
C.V. Srinatha Sastry, KGP, Bangalore, <sa...@ea...>
Arun Sharma <ar...@sh...>
Alok Kumar, Infosys, Bangalore, Karnataka <al...@ya...>
Bhupesh Koli, BharateeyaOO.o Team, NCST (National Centre for Software 
Technology), Bangalore, <bh...@nc...>
Shikha G Pillai, BharateeyaOO.o Team, NCST (National Centre for Software 
Technology), Bangalore, <sh...@nc...>
Abhas Abhinav, DeepRoot Linux, Bangalore, <ab...@de...>
Sunil Abraham, Mahiti, Bangalore, <su...@ma...>
Pramod R, Mahiti, Bangalore, <pr...@ma...>

Punjabi

Niyam Bhusan, New Delhi <lin...@bh...>
Janmeja Johl, Ludhiana, Punjab <ja...@em...>

Urdu, Sindhi, Kashmiri & Persian

Pritam Nahar, Reality Information Systems, Pune, Maharastra 
<pr...@re...>
Dr. Tarique Sani <from Nagpur>??
Pakistan  LUG, GLUG ??
Mahesh Kulkarni, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra <md...@cd...>
Aditya Gokhale, CDAC, Pune, Maharastra <ad...@cd...>

Bengali/Bangala, Assamese & Manipuri

Mustafa Jabbar, Ananda Computers, Dhaka, Bangladesh <an...@bd...>
Sayamindu Dasgupta, LUG, Kolkatta, <unm...@So...>
Zaheed Hossain, Ananda Computers, Kolkatta,
Ravi Kant, Sarai, New Delhi, <rav...@sa...>
Bangladesh group of Tani Ahmed, ??

Marathi & Konkani

Nagarjuna G, Homi Bhaba Center for Science & Education, Mumbai 
<nag...@hb...>
Sunil J. Shetty, Modular Infotech, Pune, <shr...@mo...>
Mohan Jadav, Modular Infotech, Pune, <mo...@mo...>
Prakash Advani, Netcore, Mumbai, <pr...@ne...>
G. Karunakar, Netcore, Mumbai, <kar...@ne...>
Ravi Pande, Pune, <pa...@ya...>
Asmita S. Khobragade, Homi Bhaba Center for Science & Education, Mumbai 
<asm...@ya...>
Frederick Noronha, Bytesforall, Goa <fr...@by...>

Tamil

K. Viveka Nathan, TeNet, IIT Madras, Chennai <vi...@la...>
R. Murugapandian, Sudharsanam Centre for Arts & Culture, Pudukkottai, 
Tamil Nadu <bar...@sa...>
Manoj R Annadurai, Chennai Kavigal, <ma...@ch...>
Dr. V. Venkataramanan, <http://www.tamillinux.org> ??
International Forum for Information Technology in Tamil, 
http://www.infitt.org/

Telugu

Kiran Chandra, Jana Vignana Vedika, (Prajashakti Daily), Hyderabad, 
<kir...@pr...>
Atul Negi, University of Hyderabad, Hyderabad <at...@uo...>
Rajasekharan, NISC India, Hyderabad, <ra...@ni...>

Gujarati

R. K. Dave, G.A.D, Government of Gujarat, Gandhi Nagar, 
<rkd...@ho...>
Bhavin Choksi, CRAnTI Technologies, Ahmedabad <bh...@ya...>
Ramesh Patel, SRISTI, Ahmedabad <ra...@sr...>

Malayalam

Rajkumar S, FSF, Trivendram, <s_...@my...> <ra...@li...>
Arun M, FSF, Trivendram, <ar...@fr...>

Nepali

Amar Gurung, Nepali Font Standardization Project, Madan Puraskar 
Pustakalaya [MPP], Kathmandu, Nepal, <ama...@in...>
Pawan Chitrakar, Kathmandu, Nepal, <pc...@in...>

Oriya

Sashikant, NIIT, Sambhalpur, Orissa, <sas...@ya...>

Sanskrit
??

[Indic-computing-users] Request review of an article

[dabhijit <dab...@in...>]

Hello Everyone,

I would welcome some constructive criticism on an article on Indic
languages on this site:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/indic/

There are a couple of typographical errors which are being corrected.

In this article, I have tried to give an overview of Indian languages and
outlined the issues which should assist everyone in developing support for
them. I stress upon a clear and standard definition of Indian languages
from linguists and experts so that we developers can build correct and
unambiguous support.

It is not intended as an exhaustive article (which would never be complete)
but as an overview and introduction. Most of the important problems in
developing support for Indian languages are also mentioned.

Please respond to me with your rants and raves.

I would also welcome any additional information.

Regards,
Abhijit
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[Indic-computing-users] [cross-posted] HT on indic font

[LinuxLingam <lin...@bh...>]

7th april, today's Hindustan times delhi edition, has a short article 
"Experts chart future of Indian fonts" written by niyam bhushan.

the article talks about the recently concluded indic font design and 
development workshop that took place in bangalore.

the troubleshoot column on the same page also headlines how to go about  
installing linux on laptops and handheld devices.

:-)
Linuxlingam