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#242 Neither Equalizer APO nor Peace work after installation.

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2023-01-30
2023-01-28
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I have installed and reinstalled Equalizer APO several times. I worked months ago but not now. I also installed Peace to see if that worked. It didn't. Both programs indicate the proper audio device (Roland UA-25 EX external sound card), but somehow the equalization software never is recognized. I have tried the solutions offered in the FAQQ section, but to no avail. Ideally, I would like the equalization programs to be automatically loaded and functional when the computer is first booted up, but I cannot get these to work in any situation. Why is the sound not directed to the equalization software, when both programs recognize the Roland output device? All the sounds generated play through the card and speaker system, but with no equalization. I would appreciate any troubleshooting tips that might get these to work. No log file was even created.

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  • Peter Verbeek

    Peter Verbeek - 2023-01-28

    Have your tried the troubleshooting options available in the Configurator for the Roland? If you don't know how to access them these are the steps:

    1. In the Configurator: Click on the Roland device name in the left connector column.
    2. Check Troubleshooting options checkbox
    3. Try one of the options by setting it and restarting your computer.

    Usually the options of the "Install as" dropdown box does the trick. For recent Windows 10 and 11 updates try "LFX/GFX" (old Windows Vista APO technique) then "SFX/EFX the "SFX/MFX". If non of them work try again but now after unchecking the "Use original APO" checkboxs.

    There's some issue with Peace 1.6.3.6 which probably isn't related. When starting the Configuration Editor of Equalizer APO you might see some commands. Delete all accept "Include: peace.txt".

     
    • Barrett Kalellis

      Gentlemen,

      I have tried every suggestion that you have indicated. Neither Equalizer APO
      nor Peace work at all, no matter what I do. These programs do not seem to
      load, although I see the interfaces on the screen. And every time I reboot
      the computer, they do not stay in the taskbar, but I have to go to the apps
      menu to reload them. This, in spite of the fact that both programs are
      listed in the Installed Apps menu! It's as if they are somehow not being
      "turned on." The computer audio files play fine through the UA-25EX system,
      but neither equalizer has any effect. What might cause this? I'm about to
      give up.

      Barrett Kalellis

      prman@chartermi.net prman413@att.net

      (810) 986-7700

      From: tickets@equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net
      tickets@equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net On Behalf Of Peter Verbeek
      Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 4:23 AM
      To: [equalizerapo:tickets] 242@tickets.equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Subject: [equalizerapo:tickets] #242 Neither Equalizer APO nor Peace work
      after installation.

      Have your tried the troubleshooting options available in the Configurator
      for the Roland? If you don't know how to access them these are the steps:

      1. In the Configurator: Click on the Roland device name in the left
        connector column.
      2. Check Troubleshooting options checkbox
      3. Try one of the options by setting it and restarting your computer.

      Usually the options of the "Install as" dropdown box does the trick. For
      recent Windows 10 and 11 updates try "LFX/GFX" (old Windows Vista APO
      technique) then "SFX/EFX the "SFX/MFX". If non of them work try again but
      now after unchecking the "Use original APO" checkboxs.

      There's some issue with Peace 1.6.3.6 which probably isn't related. When
      starting the Configuration Editor of Equalizer APO you might see some
      commands. Delete all accept "Include: peace.txt".


      [tickets:#242] https://sourceforge.net/p/equalizerapo/tickets/242/
      Neither Equalizer APO nor Peace work after installation.

      Status: open
      Milestone: 1.x
      Created: Sat Jan 28, 2023 05:03 AM UTC by Barrett Kalellis
      Last Updated: Sat Jan 28, 2023 05:03 AM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      I have installed and reinstalled Equalizer APO several times. I worked
      months ago but not now. I also installed Peace to see if that worked. It
      didn't. Both programs indicate the proper audio device (Roland UA-25 EX
      external sound card), but somehow the equalization software never is
      recognized. I have tried the solutions offered in the FAQQ section, but to
      no avail. Ideally, I would like the equalization programs to be
      automatically loaded and functional when the computer is first booted up,
      but I cannot get these to work in any situation. Why is the sound not
      directed to the equalization software, when both programs recognize the
      Roland output device? All the sounds generated play through the card and
      speaker system, but with no equalization. I would appreciate any
      troubleshooting tips that might get these to work. No log file was even
      created.


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  • Peter Verbeek

    Peter Verbeek - 2023-01-30

    I can imagine you're giving up. It can be difficult sometimes to get Equalizer APO going.

    First to take your confusion away some explanation. For Equalizer APO to work (as in manipulating the audio) neither Peace nor any other app needs to be active, neither on screen, on taskbar nor otherwise. For instance, you can close Peace after using it. The audio engine of Equalizer APO keeps on taking care of the audio manipulation on the target device(s).

    The above is all done by changing some Windows registry keys of an audio device. The Configurator reroutes the audio through particular changes. Unfortunately any Windows update with an audio driver update resets this rerouting. In your case this happened and sometimes it's difficult to get Equalizer APO going again on a device (as you have noticed).

    Are you on Windows 11 22H2? Some users have troubles getting Equalizer APO going on this update. Unfortunately Microsoft is notoriously bad in Windows updates. They keep on doing it wrong. But this also means that the next update could be the solution!

    Also you could do what this wiki says. Some necessary settings need to be altered.

     
    • Barrett Kalellis

      Here is my computer's configuration:

      It seems that it is running on V. 22H2. I have tried everything suggested,
      but it will not work. All my audio signals are NOT going through the
      Equalizer APO. I notice that this Windows update took place on Dec. 22.
      That's about the time this trouble started, as I recall. If you have
      determined that the update is the culprit, have you found a fix for this?
      Have your guys made Microsoft aware of the problem? Do your guys talk to
      their guys? I would be most interested in having your engineers solve this
      problem, because the audio severely needs equalization fine-tuning and I
      have no way to do this now. Some wiki on YouTube claims that Windows 11 has
      some equalization controls as part of the sound settings menu, but I have
      found no such controls.

      Barrett Kalellis

      prman@chartermi.net prman413@att.net

      (810) 986-7700

      From: tickets@equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net
      tickets@equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net On Behalf Of Peter Verbeek
      Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 8:24 AM
      To: [equalizerapo:tickets] 242@tickets.equalizerapo.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Subject: [equalizerapo:tickets] #242 Neither Equalizer APO nor Peace work
      after installation.

      I can imagine you're giving up. It can be difficult sometimes to get
      Equalizer APO going.

      First to take your confusion away some explanation. For Equalizer APO to
      work (as in manipulating the audio) neither Peace nor any other app needs to
      be active, neither on screen, on taskbar nor otherwise. For instance, you
      can close Peace after using it. The audio engine of Equalizer APO keeps on
      taking care of the audio manipulation on the target device(s).

      The above is all done by changing some Windows registry keys of an audio
      device. The Configurator reroutes the audio through particular changes.
      Unfortunately any Windows update with an audio driver update resets this
      rerouting. In your case this happened and sometimes it's difficult to get
      Equalizer APO going again on a device (as you have noticed).

      Are you on Windows 11 22H2? Some users have troubles getting Equalizer APO
      going on this update. Unfortunately Microsoft is notoriously bad in Windows
      updates. They keep on doing it wrong. But this also means that the next
      update could be the solution!

      Also you could do what this wiki
      https://sourceforge.net/p/equalizerapo/wiki/Documentation/#control-panel
      says. Some necessary settings need to be altered.


      [tickets:#242] https://sourceforge.net/p/equalizerapo/tickets/242/
      Neither Equalizer APO nor Peace work after installation.

      Status: open
      Milestone: 1.x
      Created: Sat Jan 28, 2023 05:03 AM UTC by Barrett Kalellis
      Last Updated: Sat Jan 28, 2023 09:23 AM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      I have installed and reinstalled Equalizer APO several times. I worked
      months ago but not now. I also installed Peace to see if that worked. It
      didn't. Both programs indicate the proper audio device (Roland UA-25 EX
      external sound card), but somehow the equalization software never is
      recognized. I have tried the solutions offered in the FAQQ section, but to
      no avail. Ideally, I would like the equalization programs to be
      automatically loaded and functional when the computer is first booted up,
      but I cannot get these to work in any situation. Why is the sound not
      directed to the equalization software, when both programs recognize the
      Roland output device? All the sounds generated play through the card and
      speaker system, but with no equalization. I would appreciate any
      troubleshooting tips that might get these to work. No log file was even
      created.


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      • Peter Verbeek

        Peter Verbeek - 2023-01-30

        The first issue is the developer of Equalizer APO isn't very active on his project. For years now I give the most support where others help to. I'm the developer of Peace, the most popular interface for Equalizer APO. In other words, I'm the one who's aware of Windows update issues and I help to solve issues wherever I can. Besides, it's usually related to either Windows or the audio driver and not Equalizer APO. Unfortunately Microsoft or any audio device manufacturers don't respect the Equalizer APO project as it isn't their concern. So we're left with a situation where most of the time Equalizer APO just works perfectly until Microsoft decides to tinker with the Windows audio system, making things worse. But they usually resolve all issues in the long run, although some audio device manufacturers just don't. They don't always respect the Windows audio architecture which Microsoft has set up, leaving some implementation which Equalizer APO just can't handle.

        When talking about equalization built in Windows. For more than 35 years Microsoft hasn't done anything other than going from stereo to 7.1. It's a shame. O, well, one can set the volume per app nowadays ...

         

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