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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-13 09:52:05
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Atif Suleman wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Peter Crowther wrote: >> >>> I wasn't at the last developers' meeting - was the idea of moving to >>> JSPs and taglibs revisited at all? >> >> >> No. I still think that moving to JSP is the right way to go but at the >> moment I don't have the time to sit down and think about how it would >> work and get a demo running. >> > Indeed JSP is the right way to go! :-) > > I would rather use a standard technology like JSP than use a Home brew > technology like the Bodington templates. > Go on then sunshine ;-). It's about time someone from Leeds (excl. Aggie) wowed us with their contribution to the bodington source base ... Alexis |
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From: Atif S. <ati...@bo...> - 2005-05-13 09:46:49
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > Peter Crowther wrote: > >> I wasn't at the last developers' meeting - was the idea of moving to >> JSPs and taglibs revisited at all? > > No. I still think that moving to JSP is the right way to go but at the > moment I don't have the time to sit down and think about how it would > work and get a demo running. > Indeed JSP is the right way to go! :-) I would rather use a standard technology like JSP than use a Home brew technology like the Bodington templates. |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-13 09:08:36
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Peter Crowther wrote: >>From: Matthew Buckett >><call><target method="insert"><variable >>name="facility"/></target> >><parameters> >> <variable name="request"/> >> <variable name="writer"/> >> <literal type="String">YYYYY</literal> >> <literal type="String">XXXXX</literal> >></parameters> >></call> > > > ... lovely. I know. If you start adding <if/> programming in BASIC with GOTOs looks very nice. > I wasn't at the last developers' meeting - was the idea of moving to > JSPs and taglibs revisited at all? No. I still think that moving to JSP is the right way to go but at the moment I don't have the time to sit down and think about how it would work and get a demo running. This template discussion has arisen because there is a plan to make all the template i18nized and the i18n code is currently only supported in new style templates. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-13 09:01:49
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> From: Matthew Buckett=20 > <call><target method=3D"insert"><variable > name=3D"facility"/></target> > <parameters> > <variable name=3D"request"/> > <variable name=3D"writer"/> > <literal type=3D"String">YYYYY</literal> > <literal type=3D"String">XXXXX</literal> > </parameters> > </call> ... lovely. I wasn't at the last developers' meeting - was the idea of moving to JSPs and taglibs revisited at all? - Peter |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-13 08:57:28
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Alexis O'Connor wrote:
> Adam Marshall wrote:
[.. snipped ..]
> Matthew has some cunning ideas regarding converting tags of the
> following form to new style:
> <building command=YYYYY variable=XXXXX>
>
> ... so, I'll let him explain when he gets the chance(!)
Ok I'll take the bait....
At the moment to convert an old style call to a new one you change:
<building command=YYYYY variable=XXXXX>
to:
<call><target method="insert"><variable
name="facility"/></target>
<parameters>
<variable name="request"/>
<variable name="writer"/>
<literal type="String">YYYYY</literal>
<literal type="String">XXXXX</literal>
</parameters>
</call>
Which is much large and harder to read. Why don't we add support to the
XML templates for the <building/> tag so that we can just change from:
<building command=YYYYY variable=XXXXX>
to:
<building command="YYYYY" variable="XXXXX"/>
This should ease the transition and should work in most cases. There are
some places where it won't be as simple as adding a training slash and
quotes.
<h1 color=<building command=color>>
Which can't be converted to an XML template without a litte more thought.
--
+--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+
| VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group |
| Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ |
+------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 08:40:48
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At the marketing meeting we were told by OSSWatch that we should ALL put ' http://bodington.org ' in the .sig of our emails. Perhaps, with it being a Friday, we could all do this? adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-13 08:38:16
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Adam Marshall wrote: > Have we seen this? > > http://users.ox.ac.uk/~adamm/bodington/notes/templates.html > > -- I have now! There are a couple of points that are incorrect can be updated: The templates live in '../webapps/bodington/templates', not just '../webapps/bodington/templates/style_default'. I don't fully understand the section 'Old Style Template Compilation Using Ant'. Legacy templates are not touched by an XML parser at all. Also, certainly since September 2004, template compilation has been very lenient - badly formed XML, java that will not compile etc, get (partially) reported, but do not fail the build process (I'm talking about the class TemplateBuilder here). As part of the ongoing work I'm doing to improve template compilation I have re-introduced the notion of 'failonerror' to the ANT build process. Another point about the XML warnings that has been discussed on list is that the DTD needs to be updated. Matthew has some cunning ideas regarding converting tags of the following form to new style: <building command=YYYYY variable=XXXXX> ... so, I'll let him explain when he gets the chance(!) Alexis |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-12 17:37:32
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> From: Colin Tatham=20 > Paul T has some sysadmin documentation about WebLearn -- I=20 > think we need to > generalise it, and add any existing stuff from Leeds, and=20 > make it available > to people downloading the software for the first time... It might help. At the moment, someone would have to be *incredibly* persistent to download + install Bodington, then muddle through the initial setup process far enough to appreciate the power of the system. - Peter |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-12 17:15:09
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Some other gotchas: Default install only creates 'sys' group Passwords are changed in two locations, both need to be created first: 1. Personal Data Tool allows sysadmin and other users to change their own passwords. 2. User Directory Tool, which allows you to reset users passwords to a randomly generated one. Paul T has some sysadmin documentation about WebLearn -- I think we need to generalise it, and add any existing stuff from Leeds, and make it available to people downloading the software for the first time... > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Trafford > [mailto:pau...@co...] > Sent: 12 May 2005 15:01 > To: col...@co...; Bodington Developers > (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Creating users/change > password? (for > FAQs) > > > At 14:13 12/05/2005, Colin Tatham wrote: > >1. Do all usernames still require some kind of prefix? I > think Antony did > >some work at Oxford to remove the requirement of having the > campus prefix... > > The prefix reflects zones, which I've never fully understood, > but actually > there is no constraint in the database itself. It is only > implemented in > the Web interface in the User creation tool and Antony > commented out the > lines that imposed it. > > I recall that the Yorkshire FE colleges Bodington each have > their own zone, > for which usernames are created with prefixes of the form > <zone>. Useful > there to avoid confusion between their members. > > A default setup has two zones - sys and admin, the latter is > meant only for > sys admin accounts (I think). The other is campus. > > Within > http://<bod_host>/bodington/site/admin/ground/ > there should be links to these zones. Create standard > accounts in the > Campus zone, rather than the Sys zone. > > - Paul > > |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-12 17:09:05
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Have we seen this? http://users.ox.ac.uk/~adamm/bodington/notes/templates.html -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-12 17:01:31
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> From: Alistair Young [mailto:ali...@sm...]=20 > erm, sorry, I meant a real compiler, like compiled binary. I=20 > don't really class byte code as compiled ;) Heh. Try reverse-engineering a .class file to the corresponding Java sometime. Once the optimiser's been at it, the bytecodes bear little relation to the original. To me, that's compiling. > how can you compile an interpreted language? If your definition of 'compiled' is 'can be run on bare metal', check out the Patriot PSC1000A. Although with microcode being what it is these days, 'bare metal' is blurring - the Crusoe's translation of X86 instructions being one example, and Transitive (http://www.transitives.com/) another. None of which is even new - the ICL ME29 was emulating other processor architectures in the 1970s, and I've no doubt it wasn't the first. > Peter, help me here, they youngsters are rockin' me chair! I recommend a cricket bat to keep they youngsters away, plus a periscope so you can see out of the chair at all the amazing new-fangled inventions out there. Means you can also look at the scenery as it goes past. - Peter |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-05-12 16:58:22
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++2 for inserting the feed here, and not as an applet, please. As for the level of detail missing, it was entirely appropriate for a 2.4.0, but perhaps then not necessary for the 2.4.x:x>0. s <quote who=3D"Colin Tatham"> > > http://bodington.org/releases.html > > "Bodington Release 2.4.0 - Release Date: 10 March 2005" > > > Is there some way we can make this easier to keep in step? The SF gener= al > news feed currently doesn't have the level of detail, but maybe we coul= d > display the File Release feed, or allow the person who built the releas= e > to > edit/add content on bod.org? > > > Colin > > > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > www.bodington.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of Computing Research SMO, UHI |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-12 16:53:52
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http://bodington.org/releases.html "Bodington Release 2.4.0 - Release Date: 10 March 2005" Is there some way we can make this easier to keep in step? The SF general news feed currently doesn't have the level of detail, but maybe we could display the File Release feed, or allow the person who built the release to edit/add content on bod.org? Colin ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-12 16:46:06
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> From: Alistair Young [mailto:ali...@sm...]=20 > compilers? pah! wouldn't trust 'em - back in the days when I=20 > compiled code ... you construct the .class files yourself with a hex editor in these enlightened days? Or just cat > Facility.class and type it in? - Peter |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-05-12 16:44:06
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erm, sorry, I meant a real compiler, like compiled binary. I don't really class byte code as compiled ;) how can you compile an interpreted language? such abuse of the term! wait 'till I get out of me bathchair. Peter, help me here, they youngsters are rockin' me chair! Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland > Alistair Young wrote: >> compilers? pah! wouldn't trust 'em - back in the days when I compiled >> code >> the compiler would say "zero errors, zero warnings" - then it'd come >> back >> from the test dept full of bugs! >> compilers? don't listen to 'em ;) >> >> Alistair >> > > Er, well that's probably because you're using the IntelliJ compiler ;-)= . > Try using jikes or the superb incremental compiler with Eclipse > (courtesy of IBM Visual Age for Java). They both do the trick, and by > jove, even crazy or what - javac. > > Alexis > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-12 16:36:30
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Alistair Young wrote: > compilers? pah! wouldn't trust 'em - back in the days when I compiled code > the compiler would say "zero errors, zero warnings" - then it'd come back > from the test dept full of bugs! > compilers? don't listen to 'em ;) > > Alistair > Er, well that's probably because you're using the IntelliJ compiler ;-). Try using jikes or the superb incremental compiler with Eclipse (courtesy of IBM Visual Age for Java). They both do the trick, and by jove, even crazy or what - javac. Alexis |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-12 15:30:43
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The more I think about it - I think we really must fit in with (ie complement) SAKAI if we are to stand any chance of being here for a long time. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated)=20 | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... = [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth | Sent: 12 May 2005 14:15 | To: 'Adam Marshall'; 'Bodington Developers' | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Tetra: MIT O.K.I. and IMS/GLC | Collaborate to Evolve Open Service Interface Definitions |=20 | I don't think we can ignore it. |=20 | Aggie |=20 | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Adam | Marshall | Sent: 12 May 2005 14:08 | To: 'Bodington Developers' | Subject: [Bodington-developers] Tetra: MIT O.K.I. and IMS/GLC = Collaborate | to | Evolve Open Service Interface Definitions |=20 |=20 | Did we see this for Tetra? |=20 | Adam |=20 | -- | Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. | Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org | Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ | Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) |=20 | -----Original Message----- | From: IMS Enterprise and LIP specifications | [mailto:IMS...@JI...] On Behalf Of Vashti Zarach | Sent: 13 April 2005 09:04 | To: IMS...@JI... | Subject: Fwd: MIT O.K.I. and IMS/GLC Collaborate to Evolve Open = Service | Interface Definitions |=20 | For your interest, |=20 | Vashti |=20 | ----- Forwarded message from "IMS Global Learning Consortium, Inc." | <IM...@im...> ----- | Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:48:19 -0400 | From: "IMS Global Learning Consortium, Inc." <IM...@im...> | Reply-To: "IMS Global Learning Consortium, Inc." <IM...@im...> | Subject: MIT O.K.I. and IMS/GLC Collaborate to Evolve Open Service | Interface | Definitions | To: CMA...@im... |=20 | FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE |=20 | MIT O.K.I. and IMS/GLC Collaborate to Evolve Open Service Interface | Definitions |=20 | Cambridge, MA, Tuesday, 12 April 2005. Today the IMS Global Learning | Consortium (IMS/GLC) and MIT's Open Knowledge Initiative (O.K.I.) = launched | a | collaborative change process for the next release of the Open Service | Interface Definitions (OSIDs). This process will result in the third | major | release of the OSID specifications scheduled for later this year. |=20 | The OSIDs define application programming interface specifications for | service-oriented systems that are being adopted by a number of = commercial | and open source eLearning software products. Several IMS/GLC members, | including SUN, Microsoft, Giunti Labs, University of Michigan, MIT, = and | Cisco Systems, have asked whether the O.K.I's Open Service Interface | Definitions (OSIDs) can be made available as part of the IMS/GLC suite = of | eLearning interoperability specifications. The collaboration between = the | O. | K. I. and IMS/GLC marks the transition of the OSID maintenance and | dissemination process, a necessary first step in considering adoption = of | the | specifications by the Consortium. |=20 | As part of this effort, O.K.I. and IMS/GLC will be distributing the = draft | XML models for OSIDs (XOSID) via the IMS member and public websites. = The | Java language bindings of the OSIDs will also be distributed via the = IMS | website. PHP bindings also exist, and work is progressing on C# and | Objective C bindings which will be distributed when available. |=20 | IMS/GLC has created a public forum to support the maintenance process = for | the OSIDs, located at <http://www.imsglobalproject.org/> | http://www.imsglobal.org (look in the Quick Links section for | "Specification | Problem and Suggestion Reporting"). A document describing the = process | can | be found on the IMS/GLC site and also at the O.K.I. project site, | <http://www.okiproject.org/> http://www.okiproject.org For more | information please contact oki...@mi... |=20 | About the IMS Global Learning Consortium: |=20 | The IMS Global Learning Consortium promotes the development and = delivery | of | interoperable learning technology. IMS/GLC specifications and related | publications are made available to the public at no charge from | www.imsglobal.org. To join IMS/GLC and participate in the development = of | e-Learning specifications and support their implementation and use | world-wide, visit <http://www.imsglobal.org/membership.html> | http://www.imsglobal.org/membership.html. |=20 | About the Open Knowledge Initiative: |=20 | The Open Knowledge Initiative (O.K.I.), a program at the Massachusetts | Institute of Technology, develops specifications that describe how the | components of an educational software environment communicate with = each | other and with other enterprise systems. O.K.I. specifications address | broad | interoperability agreements that allow for adaptation and further | specification by communities of practice. In this way, O.K.I. seeks to | open | new markets for educational tools and content. |=20 | The O.K.I. team at MIT continues to provide architectural and = technical | leadership for software initiatives in higher education, among = industry | affiliates, and through national and international organizations such = as | the | IMS Global Learning Consortium. This work helps ensure that the next | generation of e-learning software will integrate seamlessly with the | educational enterprise, and it establishes O.K.I. as a global leader = in | behavioral specifications for educational technology interoperability. | <http://www.okiproject.org/> http://www.okiproject.org . |=20 |=20 | -- | This mail sent through http://webmail.bangor.ac.uk |=20 |=20 |=20 | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ids93&alloc_id=16281&op=3Dick | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-05-12 14:42:40
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compilers? pah! wouldn't trust 'em - back in the days when I compiled cod= e the compiler would say "zero errors, zero warnings" - then it'd come back from the test dept full of bugs! compilers? don't listen to 'em ;) Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland >> From: Alexis O'Connor >> an...@sm... wrote: >> > Is there a tool that rips out imports/variables that aren't >> > referenced?! > > I believe the most appropriate tool is the Mk.I developer, as it > typically has to make value judgements on surrounding code as well. > >> The compiler can be configured to give >> warnings regarding unused variables. > > ... and possibly should be configured as such by default. We saw a > decrease in defects introduced during maintenance in a legacy C++ > project when we turned on all the warnings in the compiler and spent th= e > effort in clearing up the existing warnings. Unfortunately we were too > naive to measure the decrease, so I can't tell you any numbers :-(. > > - Peter > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ids93&alloc_id=16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-12 14:01:13
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Alistair Young wrote: >> people have views the other way > > change it anyway - it's only the process of change that stirs them up - > once it's changed they'll go back to sleep ;) > njoy your 2 replies btw! What you need is the procmail recipe that filters out duplicate messages so you don't see them. Or for people to stop being so lazy and edit the addresses. Or get people to use a mail client (like mutt) that has a reply to list command. At the end of the day I'm not fussed, as long people people are able to post messages. :-) -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Paul T. <pau...@co...> - 2005-05-12 14:00:54
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At 14:13 12/05/2005, Colin Tatham wrote: >1. Do all usernames still require some kind of prefix? I think Antony did >some work at Oxford to remove the requirement of having the campus prefix... The prefix reflects zones, which I've never fully understood, but actually there is no constraint in the database itself. It is only implemented in the Web interface in the User creation tool and Antony commented out the lines that imposed it. I recall that the Yorkshire FE colleges Bodington each have their own zone, for which usernames are created with prefixes of the form <zone>. Useful there to avoid confusion between their members. A default setup has two zones - sys and admin, the latter is meant only for sys admin accounts (I think). The other is campus. Within http://<bod_host>/bodington/site/admin/ground/ there should be links to these zones. Create standard accounts in the Campus zone, rather than the Sys zone. - Paul |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-05-12 13:58:10
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changed. s <quote who=3D"Alistair Young"> >> people have views the other way > change it anyway - it's only the process of change that stirs them up - > once it's changed they'll go back to sleep ;) > njoy your 2 replies btw! > > Alistair > > > On 12 May 2005, at 14:39, Colin Tatham wrote: > >> >> It's a configuration option. I also prefer replies to the list, but I >> gather >> people have views the other way... >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bod...@li... >>> [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of >>> Alistair Young >>> Sent: 12 May 2005 14:30 >>> To: 'Bodington Developers' >>> Subject: [Bodington-developers] double replies >>> >>> >>> is there a way to set the reply-to address to >>> bod...@li... - as the poster gets two >>> replies - the sourceforge guanxi list doesn't do this. If you >>> hit reply >>> it replies to the list, rather than the sender. >>> >>> Alistair >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes >>> Want to be the first software developer in space? >>> Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! >>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bodington-developers mailing list >>> Bod...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes >> Want to be the first software developer in space? >> Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of Computing Research SMO, UHI |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-12 13:53:52
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> From: Alexis O'Connor=20 > an...@sm... wrote: > > Is there a tool that rips out imports/variables that aren't > > referenced?! I believe the most appropriate tool is the Mk.I developer, as it typically has to make value judgements on surrounding code as well. > The compiler can be configured to give=20 > warnings regarding unused variables. ... and possibly should be configured as such by default. We saw a decrease in defects introduced during maintenance in a legacy C++ project when we turned on all the warnings in the compiler and spent the effort in clearing up the existing warnings. Unfortunately we were too naive to measure the decrease, so I can't tell you any numbers :-(. - Peter |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-05-12 13:46:15
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> people have views the other way change it anyway - it's only the process of change that stirs them up - once it's changed they'll go back to sleep ;) njoy your 2 replies btw! Alistair On 12 May 2005, at 14:39, Colin Tatham wrote: > > It's a configuration option. I also prefer replies to the list, but I > gather > people have views the other way... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of >> Alistair Young >> Sent: 12 May 2005 14:30 >> To: 'Bodington Developers' >> Subject: [Bodington-developers] double replies >> >> >> is there a way to set the reply-to address to >> bod...@li... - as the poster gets two >> replies - the sourceforge guanxi list doesn't do this. If you >> hit reply >> it replies to the list, rather than the sender. >> >> Alistair >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes >> Want to be the first software developer in space? >> Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-12 13:39:25
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an...@sm... wrote: > Yep, unused declared variables are highlighted in Idea and there are > loads! Is there a tool that rips out imports/variables that aren't > referenced?! > Antony > Eclipse is what I know best! However, that and other IDEs can certainly organize your imports for you. The compiler can be configured to give warnings regarding unused variables. Alexis |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-12 13:39:21
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It's a configuration option. I also prefer replies to the list, but I gather people have views the other way... > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 12 May 2005 14:30 > To: 'Bodington Developers' > Subject: [Bodington-developers] double replies > > > is there a way to set the reply-to address to > bod...@li... - as the poster gets two > replies - the sourceforge guanxi list doesn't do this. If you > hit reply > it replies to the list, rather than the sender. > > Alistair > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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