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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-05-13 13:45:31
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This might be worth a look: http://sourceforge.net/projects/friki Aggie |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 13:24:56
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As I say - a java one we can shibb later. Failing that a PHP one we can shibb later. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 13:50 | To: Bodington Developers (E-mail) | Subject: [Bodington-developers] FW: Wiki (again) | | -----Original Message----- | From: Colin Tatham [mailto:col...@ou...] | Sent: 13 May 2005 11:26 | To: 'Bodington Developers (E-mail)' | Subject: Wiki (again) | | <snip>... | | Looks like we are allowed to run some applications on the SourceForge | site*, | otherwise we could possibly host it on a server here. | | Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they can recommend, | or | suggestions? | | Colin | | * see: | http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#third_ | pa | rty_apps | http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#php | | | | ... <snip> | | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | www.bodington.org | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:49:48
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-----Original Message----- From: Colin Tatham [mailto:col...@ou...] Sent: 13 May 2005 11:26 To: 'Bodington Developers (E-mail)' Subject: Wiki (again) <snip>... Looks like we are allowed to run some applications on the SourceForge site*, otherwise we could possibly host it on a server here. Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they can recommend, or suggestions? Colin * see: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#third_pa rty_apps http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#php ... <snip> ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:47:52
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Yes but documentation would match a specific version of Bodington - it will have to evolve as the code changes., adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 13:45 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] User documentation | | | Depends on who's doing the work. If they're not developers, would they | want | to start using CVS? | | The SF DocManager looks like it been designed to allow co-authoring, and | automate adding the docs to the file releases (but I haven't looked in | detail, don't know if there's any version control). | | Put it in the DB? Are you thinking of automatically creating a Bod | resource? | | Colin | | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | www.bodington.org | | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of | > Adam Marshall | > Sent: 13 May 2005 13:25 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] User documentation | > | > | > I think we definitely need the bod user doc in CVS - it | > should be rolled | > into the war file and added to the DB upon installation so | > ALL instances of | > bod come with all the documentation in the DB. | > | > Perhaps developer doc could be on SF but it may make more | > sense to use a | > wiki - but then again don't you want developer doc in CVS as | > it will prolly | > refer to one version. | > | > Adam | > | > | > | > -- | > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. | > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org | > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ | > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bodington- | > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | > | Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 | > | To: Bodington Developers (E-mail) | > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] User documentation | > | | > | | > | How do we go about merging all the bits of documentation | > that we have, | > | updating it, and making it available? | > | | > | I see the following possibilities: | > | 1. CVS | > | 2. Wiki | > | 3. SF DocManager | > | | > | We need to have documentation available online somewhere, | > and provide it | > | in | > | the downloads. | > | | > | | > | ____________________________________ | > | Colin Tatham | > | VLE Team | > | Oxford University Computing Services | > | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | > | www.bodington.org | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | ------------------------------------------------------- | > | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | > | Want to be the first software developer in space? | > | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | > | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | > | _______________________________________________ | > | Bodington-developers mailing list | > | Bod...@li... | > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | > Want to be the first software developer in space? | > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:45:08
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Depends on who's doing the work. If they're not developers, would they want to start using CVS? The SF DocManager looks like it been designed to allow co-authoring, and automate adding the docs to the file releases (but I haven't looked in detail, don't know if there's any version control). Put it in the DB? Are you thinking of automatically creating a Bod resource? Colin ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Adam Marshall > Sent: 13 May 2005 13:25 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] User documentation > > > I think we definitely need the bod user doc in CVS - it > should be rolled > into the war file and added to the DB upon installation so > ALL instances of > bod come with all the documentation in the DB. > > Perhaps developer doc could be on SF but it may make more > sense to use a > wiki - but then again don't you want developer doc in CVS as > it will prolly > refer to one version. > > Adam > > > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham > | Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 > | To: Bodington Developers (E-mail) > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] User documentation > | > | > | How do we go about merging all the bits of documentation > that we have, > | updating it, and making it available? > | > | I see the following possibilities: > | 1. CVS > | 2. Wiki > | 3. SF DocManager > | > | We need to have documentation available online somewhere, > and provide it > | in > | the downloads. > | > | > | ____________________________________ > | Colin Tatham > | VLE Team > | Oxford University Computing Services > | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > | www.bodington.org > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > | Want to be the first software developer in space? > | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:42:29
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-- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 13:31 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | | > get one up on bod.org ASAP. | | I was thinking of putting it on the SF site, so that it's not an | additional | load on the bod.org people... | Sounds good - can we do that? adam |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:40:40
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Adam Marshall wrote: > Is this relevant? I think so. > Bodington will come with compiled templates which refer to the system as > 'Bodington' - if you want to call it Clan then you use a different entity > file and run a single ant task to recompile - total time 2 mins. Surely this > is easier than having to do a CVS merge on 300+ files to change one word - > total time 3 hours? Indeed. The only problem is that it changes the way the template compiler works. Before if you changed the input you saw the updated output now you might not. As someone else mentioned in this thread using the i18n stuff may well be the better solution anyway. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:40:04
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Adam Marshall wrote: > | Ahem, are we talking at cross-purposes here? > | > | Surely the priority is to have a developers wiki at bodington.org using > | any existing technology. > | A secondary consideration is to have a wiki tool that runs inside > | bodington. Presumably that would be best if it was written in Java? > | -- > | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | | Alexis O'Connor, VLE Developer (http://bodington.org) | > | | OUCS, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK. | > | | Tel. +44 (0)1865 283661 | > | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | > > Isnt that what I said? > > adam Prehaps it's just me who's getting confused ;-). Alexis |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:31:44
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| Ahem, are we talking at cross-purposes here? | | Surely the priority is to have a developers wiki at bodington.org using | any existing technology. | A secondary consideration is to have a wiki tool that runs inside | bodington. Presumably that would be best if it was written in Java? | -- | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | | Alexis O'Connor, VLE Developer (http://bodington.org) | | | OUCS, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK. | | | Tel. +44 (0)1865 283661 | | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Isnt that what I said? adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alexis O'Connor | Sent: 13 May 2005 13:25 | To: bod...@li... | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | | Andrew Booth wrote: | > Don't wait for me. Find one that works and we'll worry about shibbing | it | > later. | > | > Aggie | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Adam | > Marshall | > Sent: 13 May 2005 12:27 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | > | > Does this depend on how long aggie expects to take? If we could use a | wiki | > that we intend to shibb later then we wouldn't have to port content. | > | > I agree that we should get one up on bod.org ASAP. | > | > adam | > | > -- | > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. | > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org | > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ | > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bodington- | > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | > | Sent: 13 May 2005 12:18 | > | To: bod...@li... | > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | > | | > | | > | 'something that Just Works' sounds good... | > | | > | | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: bod...@li... | > | > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf | Of | > | > Peter Crowther | > | > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 | > | > To: bod...@li... | > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | > | > | > | > | > | > > From: Colin Tatham | > | > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they | > | > > can recommend, or suggestions? | > | > | > | > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, | > | > full-featured, but PHP | > | > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in | which | > | > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. | > | > | > | > - Peter | > | > | > | | > | ____________________________________ | > | Colin Tatham | > | VLE Team | > | Oxford University Computing Services | > | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | > | www.bodington.org | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | > Want to be the first software developer in space? | > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | > Want to be the first software developer in space? | > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:30:47
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> get one up on bod.org ASAP. I was thinking of putting it on the SF site, so that it's not an additional load on the bod.org people... > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Adam Marshall > Sent: 13 May 2005 12:27 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > > > Does this depend on how long aggie expects to take? If we > could use a wiki > that we intend to shibb later then we wouldn't have to port content. > > I agree that we should get one up on bod.org ASAP. > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham > | Sent: 13 May 2005 12:18 > | To: bod...@li... > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > | > | > | 'something that Just Works' sounds good... > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: bod...@li... > | > > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > | > Peter Crowther > | > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 > | > To: bod...@li... > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > | > > | > > | > > From: Colin Tatham > | > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they > | > > can recommend, or suggestions? > | > > | > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, > | > full-featured, but PHP > | > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just > Works (in which > | > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something > that's in Java. > | > > | > - Peter > | > > | > | ____________________________________ > | Colin Tatham > | VLE Team > | Oxford University Computing Services > | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > | www.bodington.org ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:25:34
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Andrew Booth wrote: > Don't wait for me. Find one that works and we'll worry about shibbing it > later. > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam > Marshall > Sent: 13 May 2005 12:27 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > > Does this depend on how long aggie expects to take? If we could use a wiki > that we intend to shibb later then we wouldn't have to port content. > > I agree that we should get one up on bod.org ASAP. > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham > | Sent: 13 May 2005 12:18 > | To: bod...@li... > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > | > | > | 'something that Just Works' sounds good... > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: bod...@li... > | > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > | > Peter Crowther > | > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 > | > To: bod...@li... > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > | > > | > > | > > From: Colin Tatham > | > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they > | > > can recommend, or suggestions? > | > > | > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, > | > full-featured, but PHP > | > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in which > | > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. > | > > | > - Peter > | > > | > | ____________________________________ > | Colin Tatham > | VLE Team > | Oxford University Computing Services > | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > | www.bodington.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > Ahem, are we talking at cross-purposes here? Surely the priority is to have a developers wiki at bodington.org using any existing technology. A secondary consideration is to have a wiki tool that runs inside bodington. Presumably that would be best if it was written in Java? -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Alexis O'Connor, VLE Developer (http://bodington.org) | | OUCS, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK. | | Tel. +44 (0)1865 283661 | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 12:24:49
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I think we definitely need the bod user doc in CVS - it should be rolled into the war file and added to the DB upon installation so ALL instances of bod come with all the documentation in the DB. Perhaps developer doc could be on SF but it may make more sense to use a wiki - but then again don't you want developer doc in CVS as it will prolly refer to one version. Adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 | To: Bodington Developers (E-mail) | Subject: [Bodington-developers] User documentation | | | How do we go about merging all the bits of documentation that we have, | updating it, and making it available? | | I see the following possibilities: | 1. CVS | 2. Wiki | 3. SF DocManager | | We need to have documentation available online somewhere, and provide it | in | the downloads. | | | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | www.bodington.org | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-05-13 12:05:56
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Don't wait for me. Find one that works and we'll worry about shibbing it later. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 13 May 2005 12:27 To: bod...@li... Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) Does this depend on how long aggie expects to take? If we could use a wiki that we intend to shibb later then we wouldn't have to port content. I agree that we should get one up on bod.org ASAP. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 12:18 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | | | 'something that Just Works' sounds good... | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of | > Peter Crowther | > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | > | > | > > From: Colin Tatham | > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they | > > can recommend, or suggestions? | > | > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, | > full-featured, but PHP | > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in which | > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. | > | > - Peter | > | | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | www.bodington.org ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 11:27:38
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Does this depend on how long aggie expects to take? If we could use a wiki that we intend to shibb later then we wouldn't have to port content. I agree that we should get one up on bod.org ASAP. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Colin Tatham | Sent: 13 May 2005 12:18 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | | | 'something that Just Works' sounds good... | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of | > Peter Crowther | > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) | > | > | > > From: Colin Tatham | > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they | > > can recommend, or suggestions? | > | > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, | > full-featured, but PHP | > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in which | > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. | > | > - Peter | > | | ____________________________________ | Colin Tatham | VLE Team | Oxford University Computing Services | www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ | www.bodington.org |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-13 11:26:14
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Is this relevant? Bodington will come with compiled templates which refer to the system as 'Bodington' - if you want to call it Clan then you use a different entity file and run a single ant task to recompile - total time 2 mins. Surely this is easier than having to do a CVS merge on 300+ files to change one word - total time 3 hours? Adam (saying it like it is) -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett | Sent: 13 May 2005 11:08 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] template conversion | | Sean Mehan wrote: | | > Someone was going to look at embedding an entity in for org name, e.g. | > weblearn, clan, | > but alistair told me that this wouldn't work. | | The problem with using XML entities is then you have a dependancy on a | second file and so if the included file changed the template compiler in | it's current state wouldn't notice this and so wouldn't recompile the | template. | | Is there something else I am missing? | | -- | +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes | Want to be the first software developer in space? | Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 11:19:00
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'something that Just Works' sounds good... > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Peter Crowther > Sent: 13 May 2005 11:27 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Wiki (again) > > > > From: Colin Tatham > > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they > > can recommend, or suggestions? > > We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, > full-featured, but PHP > not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in which > case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. > > - Peter > ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-13 10:38:39
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> From: Colin Tatham=20 > How do we go about merging all the bits of documentation that we have, > updating it, and making it available? >=20 > I see the following possibilities: > 1. CVS > 2. Wiki > 3. SF DocManager Or, if we were eating our own cooking, a shared document facility in Bodington. The fact that that wasn't in the list may be indicative of problems :-). > We need to have documentation available online somewhere, and=20 > provide it in the downloads. If we're providing a documentation bundle with a download, rather than a pointer to the docs, then a Wiki may be the wrong way to go unless it can export a static view. We would need some kind of content management system. A CVS archive of a bunch of HTML files wouldn't be the wrong way to do it... then it could go into the Bodington repository once that project produces its results :-). - Peter |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-13 10:30:36
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> From: Colin Tatham=20 > Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they=20 > can recommend, or suggestions? We used phpWiki for the PLE project - works well, full-featured, but PHP not Java. Depends whether we want something that Just Works (in which case phpWiki is probably the way to go) or something that's in Java. - Peter |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 10:27:33
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How do we go about merging all the bits of documentation that we have, updating it, and making it available? I see the following possibilities: 1. CVS 2. Wiki 3. SF DocManager We need to have documentation available online somewhere, and provide it in the downloads. ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-05-13 10:26:10
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I know we've discussed incorporating a Wiki tool in Bodington, but I think it would be useful to have a Wiki available to everyone now. I'm thinking we could use it to co-produce the Bod developer meeting notes, maintain development tasks, and possibly documentation (dunno how we get around the different versions/screenshots for each site problem...). Presuming we all agree to have a Wiki, the issue is where to host it. Looks like we are allowed to run some applications on the SourceForge site*, otherwise we could possibly host it on a server here. Anybody had any experience running/using a Wiki which they can recommend, or suggestions? Colin * see: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#third_pa rty_apps http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#php These links are to SF's DocManager, which is a way we could co-author our user documentation: "SourceForge.net provides a simple mechanism for storing HTML documentation generated by your project, the DocManager facility. DocManager permits online editing of documentation, storing of documentation for the general public or for internal project use, and allows you to easily maintain translated versions of your document in the same centralized location." ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org |
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From: Atif S. <ati...@bo...> - 2005-05-13 10:24:58
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Alexis O'Connor wrote: > Go on then sunshine ;-). > It's about time someone from Leeds (excl. Aggie) wowed us with their > contribution to the bodington source base ... > > Alexis Unfortunately I'm contracted to solely work on a guanxi project. ;-) |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-13 10:07:52
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Sean Mehan wrote: > Someone was going to look at embedding an entity in for org name, e.g. > weblearn, clan, > but alistair told me that this wouldn't work. The problem with using XML entities is then you have a dependancy on a second file and so if the included file changed the template compiler in it's current state wouldn't notice this and so wouldn't recompile the template. Is there something else I am missing? -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-05-13 10:03:49
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Sean Mehan wrote: > > Someone was going to look at embedding an entity in for org name, e.g. > weblearn, clan, > but alistair told me that this wouldn't work. > Yep, I think he's right. It wouldn't work very well in a dynamic environment (if the entity changes the template wouldnpt, not without some kind of listener framework). Alistairs i18n framework is the best way to localize the institutional.system.name property I reckon! Alexis |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-05-13 10:03:43
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> From: Sean Mehan [mailto:se...@sm...]=20 > We are not opening this back up for debate. We have a tight=20 > timescale to go to 2.6 end of June. >=20 > There is no time to work out a second soln. >=20 > JSP would be great, but will not be ready by 2.6 and we MUST=20 > do something about i18n and localization for local changes. Good point - I'd mislaid the fact that the immediate driver for conversion is i18n. Thanks for the timely reminder. Personal opinion: It's worth continuing to bat around how one would migrate to JSP in the background, but we should note that it's a background activity for possible incorporation into a future version. - Peter |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-05-13 09:56:09
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Friends, We are not opening this back up for debate. We have a tight timescale to go to 2.6 end of June. There is no time to work out a second soln. JSP would be great, but will not be ready by 2.6 and we MUST do something about i18n and localization for local changes. Someone was going to look at embedding an entity in for org name, e.g. weblearn, clan, but alistair told me that this wouldn't work. s <quote who=3D"Atif Suleman"> > Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Peter Crowther wrote: >> >>> I wasn't at the last developers' meeting - was the idea of moving to >>> JSPs and taglibs revisited at all? >> >> No. I still think that moving to JSP is the right way to go but at the >> moment I don't have the time to sit down and think about how it would >> work and get a demo running. >> > Indeed JSP is the right way to go! :-) > > I would rather use a standard technology like JSP than use a Home brew > technology like the Bodington templates. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of Computing Research SMO, UHI |
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