Re: [Mantisbt-dev] Templates and Themes

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Kenzaburo Ito wrote:
>>The only difference now is, that you've got B) and C) in the same file,
>>whereas with templates (and I'm not talking about using a template
>>system now) you would have something like "view_bug_prepare.php" that
>>gets all the data and includes
>>$current_template_path.'/view_bug_page.php'); at the end, which displays
>>the data. That would be a pure php template without having to rely on an
>>external package.
> 
> 
> I'm not high on this because it splits even more files out which means even
> more places you have to look to fiddle with code.  This can be mitigated if we
> always name the file with a _prepare suffix.

Currently I find 54 _page.php files which, I assume, are the only ones 
who display data and would be the candidates to be "templated".

We would need a lesser number of _prepare.php files, because pages like:
bug_update*.php print_bug_page.php and view_bug_*.php could be served by 
just one _prepare page that switches ( $the desired output ).
Maybe others which display the same base data can be grouped together as 
well. I didn't check thoroughly.

The templates wouldn't call any functions apart from "echo" and would 
only use an occasional "if" statement now and then.

>>Agreed, my reason for using a template system instead of php is, that
>>I'd like to keep my standard developers/tinkerers, who know HTML, away
>>from the code / SQL.
> 
> This isn't the set of users that our code is targeted at. I'd rather design
> for the casual developer who needs some tweaks that will extend beyond simple
> formatting changes.
OK, agreed

> Plus it increases the
> amount of background knowledge needed enormously.
That's not true. Increase yes, enormously no.

> Anyway, what's wrong with telling display people to just ignore code below a
> certain comment?
Nothing, as long as the do it :-)

> I think we'll take it to the level that Julian describes and if we find out
> weneed full templating we can do that later on.
OK. To separate everything into HTML & function calls is the most 
important part. Templates would then be a quite easy next step.

Greetings
- Lübbe