Re: [mantisbt-dev] Removal of News feature

[Paul R. <pa...@ma...>]

BTW, I'd see 'activities timeline' as a view on bug_history_table and a new
separate table - 'audit' for now.

Given your examples, bug_history_table should really be storing the
information and history to allow tracking of:

"user Z created issue 123"
"User X checked in XYZ related to issue 123"
"User X adaded note to issue 123"

*If* it's not tracking those events, we are really doing something wrong!

The "Audit Table" should be where we are storing information to
generate  "project
X created.", "user Y signed up" - I know you created an 'event log plugin'
previously, but not proving any tracking of "project X created" "user Y
created" etc, is really a flaw in the current mantis version and something
we should fix. I suspect most people on the team would agree with that flaw.

Recording custom events could go to which ever event log table is
appropriate.

However, a question:

Should bug_delete clear bug_history/bug_revision_history? :)

If Yes (current behaviour), it breaks activity / audit log - which is bad.
If No, you could in theory allow bug_history/bug_revision to be used to
undo a bug delete. However a method would needed to manage / clear out
bug_history/bug_revision tables. Similarly, those two tables should contain
enough information to theoretically allow a "rollback function" - if not,
we are doing something wrong.





On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Victor Boctor <vb...@gm...> wrote:

> I can't go in too much details now.  But I think we need native support
> for activities related to projects, users, issues, and code.  So this will
> include "project X created.", "user Y signed up", "user Z created issue
> 123", "User X checked in XYZ related to issue 123", and so on.  We should
> also support custom events like 'Chat room log created at some link.", or
> "document blah posted to sharepoint at ..." and so on.
>
> I think of this more of a news feed or timeline that is based on user
> activity rather than a user sitting down and authoring notes.  I see us
> also incorporating aggregation of events from twitter feeds, Google+, or
> whatever.  So that or an extension can be generating these kind of authored
> messages.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Paul Richards <pa...@ma...>wrote:
>
>>
>>> [Victor] I will take that as, it is OK to remove it.
>>> [Victor] I would rather keep the feature as is, than invest our time
>>> into moving to a plugin and still have to maintain it
>>> ourselves.  Removing it could be the motivation for someone contributing
>>> a plugin.
>>> [Victor] Separating the code from the core is not a goal in itself in my
>>> opinion.
>>> [Victor] I'm OK with removing it or keep it in.  I'm not sure there is
>>> return on refactoring into a plugin that we maintain.
>>>  But if someone else is up to doing the work, I don't have an issue
>>> with doing the refactoring.  In my opinion, I would like
>>> to focus on a more modern "timeline" feature than the a blog-like news
>>> feature.  I'll write up more details on this on a
>>> separate conversation.
>>>
>>>
>> By plugin, I was literally copy/paste the code to a plugin and have the
>> 'plugin' add 2 menu options i.e. view news, edit news.
>>
>> Having said that... in the concept of a modern timeline. (I'm assuming we
>> are thinking about user activity i.e. "this issue was recently modified",
>> "this bug was recently created" etc like other projects), I wonder if at
>> some point a need for a modified 'news' (announcement) concept returns.
>>
>> What i'd actually like to see one day, and I feel we are missing is some
>> concept of "project pages". If you put into google 'trac', first link takes
>> you to http://trac.edgewall.org/ - you've got bug tracker, code
>> repository, history etc and 'wiki' all in one place. At the same time,
>> whilst i'd like to see that concept (I think you'd probably agree we need
>> *something* - if nothing else, it provides a project description). I'd
>> really like to see something that isn't "another wiki", but stands out as a
>> feature in a different way - the worlds probably got enough wiki's already
>> ;) Suggestions on a postcard...
>>
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