Re: [Bibdesk-users] Umlauts in macros and quotation-marks in entrys

[Rolf S. <rol...@al...>]

Hello Christiaan,
thanks for the speedy reply. It took ME some time to reproduce my  
error...

1.) What I did wrong was substituting "für" with "f{\"ur" so that was  
the problem. It would have been right to use "f{\"u}r" instead

Still:

when I put in a macro "zfg = zeitschrift f{\"u}r  
Geschichtswissenschaft" it doesn't work. (it just keeps "zfg" in  
either footnotes or bibliography) I am using jurabib, is that the  
reason? I'm currently not sure...

Another thing linked to your answer: you suggested to use a different  
encoding. For whatever reason so far I've not been able to get  
anything "Texed" right when I use sth. else then "applemac" as  
encoding. And if I change the encoding of bib-files to sth. else than  
the main-document I am worried (and feel lost anyway). I am using OSX  
10.4.1 German with Texshop and Bibdesk. Any hints or suggestions?

2.) I am not sure if Your idea to change the translations will help:  
I'd need them when I quote German literature etc. and would need the  
English version when quoting English sources. In jurabib there is a  
function to put in a "@language"-field which should sort out these  
things by itself.

I've to ask the jurabib-list about this.

Greetings,
Rolf




Am 26.05.2005 um 23:55 schrieb bibdesk-users- 
re...@li...:
> Von: Christiaan Hofman <chr...@we...>
> Datum: 26. Mai 2005 11:30:51 MESZ
> An: bib...@li...
> Betreff: Re: [Bibdesk-users] Umlauts in macros and quotation-marks  
> in entrys
> Antwort an: bib...@li...
>
>
>
> On May 26, 2005, at 9:18, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Knowledgeable-ones!
>>
>> Happily using Bibdesk, I tried to set up a macro to get:
>>
>> ZFG = "Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaft" and get an error,  
>> the bib-file doesn't process properly, when opening the bibfile  
>> with bibdesk it gives an error too. What can I do? The culprit is  
>> the umlaut-"für"
>>
>>
> That shouldn't happen, it seems a bug to me. We fail to do  
> texifications for macros, as we do for field values. We will fix  
> this soon. Thanks for reporting this.
>
> When do you get the error though? I don't see the error, for me it  
> just doesn't save the macro properly (it loses the umlaut). One way  
> to get around this until we fix it is to save in a different  
> encoding, say UTF-8 instead of ASCII (go to the Files pane in the  
> Preferences).
>
>
>> Another problem: in my literature I frequently have to apply  
>> quotation-marks within the title. Again I get error-reports.  
>> opening the bib-file with bibdesk gives an error and the bib-files  
>> do not process properly.
>> What can I do? When using \glqq and \grqq \ with babel it works  
>> but what about english entries where I want a typewrighter-like  
>> quotation-mark (sorry abvout my english)??
>>
>> Greetings,
>>  Rolf
>>
>>
>
> We do not support those particular LaTeX macros because they are  
> not standard (they require special packages) and, unfortunately,  
> some of these are ambiguous. You can add your own special  
> characters like these in BD now. Go to the Default pane in  
> Preferences, and choose the Edit... button in the Advanced section.  
> Here you can add any special character you like. In this case, I  
> think it is best to add them to the Two-Way Conversions. Note that  
> then you have to include them in curly braces, something like:
>
> „    <->   {\glqq}
>
> Christiaan
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: "Maxwell, Adam R" <ada...@pn...>
> Datum: 26. Mai 2005 17:19:10 MESZ
> An: bib...@li...
> Betreff: Re: [Bibdesk-users] Nil message in console.log
> Antwort an: bib...@li...
>
>
>
> On May 26, 2005, at 01:04, Gernot Maier wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just had a look into my console.log file and it is full of  
>> messages (~100) like:
>>
>> 2005-05-26 09:01:57.418 BibDesk[28911] a value is nil!
>>
>> Is there anything wrong with my bibliography files?
>>
>
> Probably nothing wrong with your files; I think we should just  
> remove that unhelpful log message.  It means that you have an empty  
> field in some column that you sorted in the pubs list.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> Von: "Daniele Pontillo, MD" <dan...@al...>
> Datum: 26. Mai 2005 13:54:57 MESZ
> An: bib...@li...
> Betreff: [Bibdesk-users] rss
> Antwort an: bib...@li...
>
>
>
> I can't figure out how yo use rss files. More in detail, whenever I  
> export a bib file to rss, i actually get the rss file but with  
> nothing in it! I am sure I am doing something wrong.
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> <rss version="0.92">
> <channel>
> <title></title>
> <link>http://127.0.0.1/</link>
> <description></description>
> <language>en</language>
> <copyright>Copyright 2002,</copyright>
> <editor></editor>
> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:49:31 Europe/Rome</lastBuildDate>
>
>
> <item>
> <description>
> </description>
> <link></link>
> </item>
>
> and so on
>
> Thanks
> Daniele Pontillo, MD, FANMCO
> Cardiology Division
> Belcolle Hospital, Viterbo, Italy
> Work: +390761339424
> Home: +390761834051
> Cell: +393383734157
> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created  
> equal
>                     - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: Michael McCracken <mic...@ma...>
> Datum: 26. Mai 2005 20:54:49 MESZ
> An: bib...@li...
> Betreff: Re: [Bibdesk-users] rss
> Antwort an: bib...@li...
>
>
>
> Hi, it looks you're doing the right thing and this is just a bug.
> We'll see what we can do to fix it in the next release.
>
> Thanks,
> -mike
>
> On May 26, 2005, at 4:54 AM, Daniele Pontillo, MD wrote:
>
>> I can't figure out how yo use rss files. More in detail, whenever  
>> I export a bib file to rss, i actually get the rss file but with  
>> nothing in it! I am sure I am doing something wrong.
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> <rss version="0.92">
>> <channel>
>> <title></title>
>> <link>http://127.0.0.1/</link>
>> <description></description>
>> <language>en</language>
>> <copyright>Copyright 2002,</copyright>
>> <editor></editor>
>> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:49:31 Europe/Rome</lastBuildDate>
>>
>>
>> <item>
>> <description>
>> </description>
>> <link></link>
>> </item>
>>
>> and so on
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daniele Pontillo, MD, FANMCO
>> Cardiology Division
>> Belcolle Hospital, Viterbo, Italy
>> Work: +390761339424
>> Home: +390761834051
>> Cell: +393383734157
>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created  
>> equal
>>                     - Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>     Michael McCracken
>     mic...@ma...
>     http://michael-mccracken.net/
>
>
>
>
> Von: Michael McCracken <mic...@ma...>
> Datum: 26. Mai 2005 23:52:48 MESZ
> An: bib...@li...
> Betreff: Re: [Bibdesk-users] rss
> Antwort an: bib...@li...
>
>
>
> OK, there are two issues here. One is a bug that will be fixed in  
> the next release.
> Another is a problem that you can work around - BibDesk isn't  
> giving you enough information to figure out what's going on.
>
> By default, BibDesk uses the field "Rss-Description" to fill in the  
> 'description' part of the RSS item for a particular publication. If  
> that field is empty or nonexistent, then you get what you see below.
> You can set which field to use (for example, "title" or "abstract")  
> in the "Defaults" preference pane.
>
> *however*: there is a bug in that preference pane. In order to get  
> your preference actually set, you must do the following:
> 1. select the "Other" button.
> 2. type the field you want. (If not for the bug, you could stop here)
> 3. select the "Rss-Description" button
> 4. select the "Other" button again.
>
> The bug is already fixed in the development version.
>
> Please let me know if the steps above don't work for you, and  
> thanks for calling attention to the problem.
>
> -mike
>
> On May 26, 2005, at 4:54 AM, Daniele Pontillo, MD wrote:
>
>> I can't figure out how yo use rss files. More in detail, whenever  
>> I export a bib file to rss, i actually get the rss file but with  
>> nothing in it! I am sure I am doing something wrong.
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> <rss version="0.92">
>> <channel>
>> <title></title>
>> <link>http://127.0.0.1/</link>
>> <description></description>
>> <language>en</language>
>> <copyright>Copyright 2002,</copyright>
>> <editor></editor>
>> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:49:31 Europe/Rome</lastBuildDate>
>>
>>
>> <item>
>> <description>
>> </description>
>> <link></link>
>> </item>
>>
>> and so on
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daniele Pontillo, MD, FANMCO
>> Cardiology Division
>> Belcolle Hospital, Viterbo, Italy
>> Work: +390761339424
>> Home: +390761834051
>> Cell: +393383734157
>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created  
>> equal
>>                     - Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>     Michael McCracken
>     mic...@ma...
>     http://michael-mccracken.net/
>
>
>
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