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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 build army! - What's your status!?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 03:26:49AM +0000, John Popplewell wrote:
> No show stoppers.

Great!


> I still need to test/tweak the installers on Windows 98, but it
> looks good on 2K/XP.

Okay, thanks!  I'll keep my eye on CVS for your commits. ;)


> One issue is that the stamps installer
> is nearly 15MB, which makes testing release candidates a bit annoying,
> and that's a big download on a dialup line.

Indeed!  Wow, I didn't realize it got so huge!  Have we ran pngcrush on
the collection of PNGs recently? ;)


> For stamps installer testing, I was thinking of making a cut-down
> version,

One thing I'm considering for this upcoming release is to parcel the
stamps out into separate packages, based on category.

Fortunately, I have next Friday off (Veterans Day in the US), and though
we have a friend visiting, she's really in town for a conference, so
I should have plenty of time to hammer at the Stamps collection in CVS.

Thanks John!

Still waiting for other responses... ;)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 build army! - What's your status!?

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> As you all should know by now, I'd like to release Tux Paint 0.9.15 later
> this month.  I'd like to have as many pre-compiled builds available as
> possible, and was wondering what everyone's status is:
> 
>   John P. - you've been active on the list lately, so I'm guessing you're
>             all set.  Are there any Win32 showstoppers that would keep me
>             from releasing right now?
> 
No show stoppers. I still need to test/tweak the installers on Windows
98, but it looks good on 2K/XP. One issue is that the stamps installer
is nearly 15MB, which makes testing release candidates a bit annoying,
and that's a big download on a dialup line. For stamps installer
testing, I was thinking of making a cut-down version,

cheers,
John.

>   Marcin - are you still around?  Can you build the current CVS on BeOS?
>            Once the .tar.gz source is out, can you do an official BeOS
>            release for us?
> 
>   Martin F., Max H. and/or Darrell W. - are any of you still out here?
>            Can you tell me whether you can make an OS X build this month?
> 
>   Thomas K. - Can you do a NetBSD build?  Any issues?
> 
>   Alejandro P. - Ditto for FreeBSD. :^)
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 build army! - What's your status!?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

As you all should know by now, I'd like to release Tux Paint 0.9.15 later
this month.  I'd like to have as many pre-compiled builds available as
possible, and was wondering what everyone's status is:

  John P. - you've been active on the list lately, so I'm guessing you're
            all set.  Are there any Win32 showstoppers that would keep me
            from releasing right now?

  Marcin - are you still around?  Can you build the current CVS on BeOS?
           Once the .tar.gz source is out, can you do an official BeOS
           release for us?

  Martin F., Max H. and/or Darrell W. - are any of you still out here?
           Can you tell me whether you can make an OS X build this month?

  Thomas K. - Can you do a NetBSD build?  Any issues?

  Alejandro P. - Ditto for FreeBSD. :^)


Thanks!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:38:18PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
<snip>
> Tux Paint 0.9.15 was developed over the past year by a global community
<snip>
> Tux Paint 0.9.15 introduces new "Magic" drawing tools, including a smudge
<snip>
> Tux Paint 0.9.15 also offers a number of improvements on previous
<snip>

Hrm, that's getting a bit repetitive.  I'll change one
to "The new release...", e.g.:

  "The new release also offers a number of improvements..."

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:06:29PM -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
> Very good. I would only remove the second to last paragraph, or maybe include
> less of the information in another paragraph.

My wife looked over it and submitted this:


DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT

November XX, 2005, Mountain View, California -- On Fooday, New Breed
Software released Tux Paint 0.9.15, adding new features, new translations,
and numerous other improvements to the Open Source drawing program for
young children.  The product, along with an expanded collection of add-on
"stamps," will be released simultaneously for multiple operating systems,
including Linux, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows.

Tux Paint 0.9.15 was developed over the past year by a global community
of independant programmers.  With the arrival of Albanian, Estonian,
Gaelic, Galician, Gronings, Kinyarwanda, Mexican Spanish, Swahili, Thai,
and Urkanian translators to the project, the latest release has been
localized to over 55 languages.

Tux Paint 0.9.15 introduces new "Magic" drawing tools, including a smudge
tool, brushes that draw grass and bricks, and a brush that turns realistic
images into cartoons.

Tux Paint 0.9.15 also offers a number of improvements on previous
versions, including updates to the "Text" and "Stamp" tool interfaces,
improvements to the color palette, and support for a wider range of
display sizes -- from 640x480 to 1600x1200.  Additionally, the font and
stamp loading routines have been streamlined, greatly reducing both
startup time and memory usage.

Tux Paint runs natively on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, NetBSD and
BeOS.  It can be downloaded free of charge from New Breed Software at
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/

DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT  DRAFT


-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 09:45:37AM +0200, Emmanuel P. wrote:
> Hello,
> new to the Tux Paint community, but sounds good to me :)
> 

Welcome, and thanks! :)


> I can't wait this release version !
> By the way, is a option screen's translation possible ? If it is, I
> can do it for french langage.

Unfortunately, at this point, no, but I'm hoping to be able to work on it
after Tux Paint 0.9.15 is released!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Kai P. <ka...@pe...>]

On Friday 28 October 2005 16:22, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> How does this sound? :)  Thanks!
>
>
> DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT
>
<snip>

> DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFTa

Very good. I would only remove the second to last paragraph, or maybe include 
less of the information in another paragraph.

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Emmanuel P. <pit...@gm...>]

Hello,
new to the Tux Paint community, but sounds good to me :)

I can't wait this release version !
By the way, is a option screen's translation possible ? If it is, I
can do it for french langage.

2005/10/29, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>:
>
> How does this sound? :)  Thanks!
>
>
> DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT
>
> New Breed Software on Fooday released Tux Paint 0.9.15, adding new
> features, new translations, and numerous other improvements to the
> Open Source drawing program for young children.  The product, along
> with an expanded collection of add-on "stamp" imagery, will be
> simultaneously released for a range of operating systems including
> Linux, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows.
>
> Tux Paint 0.9.15 was developed over the past year by a global community o=
f
> independant programmers.  With the arrival of Albanian, Estonian, Gaelic,
> Galician, Gronings, Kinyarwanda, Mexican Spanish, Swahili, Thai, and
> Urkanian translators, the latest release has been localized to over 55
> languages.
>
> Also new to the application are additional "Magic" drawing tools, includi=
ng
> a smudge tool, brushes that draw grass and bricks, and a brush that turns
> realistic images into cartoons.  The "Text" and "Stamp" tools have receiv=
ed
> updates to their interfaces, and the color palette has been improved.
>
> Tux Paint has also received updates to the font and stamp loading routine=
s,
> greatly reducing both startup time and memory usage, and support has been
> added for a wider range of display sizes -- from 640x480 to 1600x1200.
>
> Tux Paint runs natively on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, NetBSD and
> BeOS.  It can be downloaded for free from New Breed Software's website:
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/
>
> DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT
>
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[Tuxpaint-devel] Draft press release for 0.9.15

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

How does this sound? :)  Thanks!


DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT

New Breed Software on Fooday released Tux Paint 0.9.15, adding new
features, new translations, and numerous other improvements to the
Open Source drawing program for young children.  The product, along
with an expanded collection of add-on "stamp" imagery, will be
simultaneously released for a range of operating systems including
Linux, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows.

Tux Paint 0.9.15 was developed over the past year by a global community of
independant programmers.  With the arrival of Albanian, Estonian, Gaelic,
Galician, Gronings, Kinyarwanda, Mexican Spanish, Swahili, Thai, and
Urkanian translators, the latest release has been localized to over 55
languages.

Also new to the application are additional "Magic" drawing tools, including
a smudge tool, brushes that draw grass and bricks, and a brush that turns
realistic images into cartoons.  The "Text" and "Stamp" tools have received
updates to their interfaces, and the color palette has been improved.

Tux Paint has also received updates to the font and stamp loading routines,
greatly reducing both startup time and memory usage, and support has been
added for a wider range of display sizes -- from 640x480 to 1600x1200.

Tux Paint runs natively on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, NetBSD and
BeOS.  It can be downloaded for free from New Breed Software's website:
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/

DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Fwd: [Tuxpaint-users] Last-minute wish list? [Mac OS X print config]

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

It seems Windows, BeOS and now Linux (via "altprintcommand" and, e.g., kprint)
have a kind of "Page Setup" for printing, but checking the source code,
it looks like Mac still does not.

Anyone want to look into this before 0.9.15 comes out?
(Uh... are there even any Mac OS X folks still lurking here!? :^) )

Thanks!

-bill!

----- Forwarded message from David Sivell <ds...@ya...> -----

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Sivell <ds...@ya...>
Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-users] Last-minute wish list?
To: tux...@li...
Reply-To: tux...@li...

Hi Bill
We use Tux Paint with Kindergarten to Yr6 students
(Mac OSX) - our biggest need is to be able to print
the whole picture. When we run it full screen at
800x600 we haven't been able to set the page
setup/landscape so that all the pic prints.

So Bill/Santa my wish is for a more readily available
page setup.

Thanks for your help.

Regards
David


> Before wrapping things up too much, though, I
> thought I'd ask my
> trusty "tuxpaint-users" subscribers if they had any
> requests.

> NO PROMISES, of course, since I'd like to get 0.9.15
> out the door soon.
> (It's been almost a year since 0.9.14!)

> -bill


		
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[Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint/src tuxpaint.c,1.448,1.449

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 08:42:12AM +0000, William Kendrick wrote:
> Stamp scaling is now controlled by a set of mini "slider"-like buttons.
> (The "Shrink" and "Grow" buttons didn't give any feedback as to what the
> current size was.)

Lemme know what you folks think of this.

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [fwd] Re: [SDL] Tux Paint rebooting WinXP!?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 03:52:19PM +0100, John Popplewell wrote:
> Be careful though. This version of Tux Paint has an annoying bug that
> forces you to wait 30s between runs. It returns without running,
> leaving a text file 'stdout.txt' containing:
> 
> You're already running a copy of Tux Paint!
> 
> even when you aren't(!)

Heh, yeah, that was my stupid misimplementation.
It's fixed in CVS (to be 0.9.15).

IIRC, though, you can send a command-line option to make it ignore the
lock file (--nolockfile).  I'm PRETTY sure that was available in 0.9.14.


> I checked that the environment variable trick works on XP Pro using the
> 'testvidinfo' program, which is part of the SDL source distribution,

Nice, thanks! :)

-bill!
(gonna pass this on to SDL list, too)

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [fwd] Re: [SDL] Tux Paint rebooting WinXP!?

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 12:15:30AM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> FYI
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> -----
> 
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:09:45 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
> Subject: Re: [SDL] Tux Paint rebooting WinXP!?
> To: "A list for developers using the SDL library. (includes SDL-announce)" <sd...@li...>
> 
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:10:39PM -0400, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> > 
> > >In the meantime... anyone here have ANY clues!?
> > 
> > Buggy DirectX drivers? Can you build him a version of SDL that forces 
> > windib and waveout instead of directx for video and audio?
> 
> I cannot, as I don't have XP at home. :^/  No time to figure out how
> to cross-compile the libs again, either.
> 
> Here are some details he sent about his system, though:
> (minus stuff like floppy drive specs. ;^) )
> 
> --- begin ---
> 
> I've had a look at the machines in question. For graphics they use the Intel
> 826X /G/ GV/GL chipset family. To answer the questions
> 
> > Does it do this in Windowed mode?
> Yes
> 
> > Does the configuration program work?
> Yes
> 
> > Is it being installed by a "Poweruser",
> Yes
> 
> > and then run by that same "Poweruser"?
> Yes
> 
> Info regarding the model computer is detailed below:
> 
>   System
>   IBM ThinkCentre S51
>   8172-XXX (TBA)
> 
>   Processor
>   Intel Pentium 4 2.80GHz with Hyper Threading Technology
> 
>   Motherboard
>   PXE Enabled, Wake on LAN Support, 800MHz Front Side Bus
> 
>   Memory (RAM)
>   512MB DDR SDRAM
> 
>   Chipset
>   Intel 915G
> 
>   Video-Graphics Card
>   Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
> 
>   Sound Card
>   SoundMAX Cadenza
> 
>   Operating System provided and installed by Vendor
>   Microsoft Windows XP Home license, Microsoft Windows XP Professional
> 
>   Link to Vendor website
>   www.ibm.com/solutions/au/publicsector/edu_sol/t4l
> 
> --- end ---
> 
> Any ideas?  Anyone have any WinDIB-compatible SDL DLLs that would work
> with Tux Paint that I can have him try?!
> 
Using the version of Tux Paint from the web (0.9.14) it's possible to
set the driver by using an environment variable.

Open up a command prompt, change to the directory where Tux Paint is
installed (e.g. cd "c:\Program Files\TuxPaint")

Use the 'set' command to set the environment variable like this:

set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=windib

the default is directx in place of windib. Check that it has taken like
this:

set

you should see something like:

...
PROMPT=$P$G
SDL_VIDEODRIVER=windib
SESSIONNAME=Console
SystemDrive=C:
...

Now run Tux Paint by typing:

tuxpaint

You could try with the sound disabled:

tuxpaint --nosound

Be careful though. This version of Tux Paint has an annoying bug that
forces you to wait 30s between runs. It returns without running,
leaving a text file 'stdout.txt' containing:

You're already running a copy of Tux Paint!

even when you aren't(!)

I checked that the environment variable trick works on XP Pro using the
'testvidinfo' program, which is part of the SDL source distribution,

cheers,
John Popplewell.

> Thanks!
> 
> -bill!
> 
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[Tuxpaint-devel] [fwd] Re: [SDL] Tux Paint rebooting WinXP!?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

FYI

----- Forwarded message from Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> -----

Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:09:45 -0700
From: Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...>
Subject: Re: [SDL] Tux Paint rebooting WinXP!?
To: "A list for developers using the SDL library. (includes SDL-announce)" <sd...@li...>

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:10:39PM -0400, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> 
> >In the meantime... anyone here have ANY clues!?
> 
> Buggy DirectX drivers? Can you build him a version of SDL that forces 
> windib and waveout instead of directx for video and audio?

I cannot, as I don't have XP at home. :^/  No time to figure out how
to cross-compile the libs again, either.

Here are some details he sent about his system, though:
(minus stuff like floppy drive specs. ;^) )

--- begin ---

I've had a look at the machines in question. For graphics they use the Intel
826X /G/ GV/GL chipset family. To answer the questions

> Does it do this in Windowed mode?
Yes

> Does the configuration program work?
Yes

> Is it being installed by a "Poweruser",
Yes

> and then run by that same "Poweruser"?
Yes

Info regarding the model computer is detailed below:

  System
  IBM ThinkCentre S51
  8172-XXX (TBA)

  Processor
  Intel Pentium 4 2.80GHz with Hyper Threading Technology

  Motherboard
  PXE Enabled, Wake on LAN Support, 800MHz Front Side Bus

  Memory (RAM)
  512MB DDR SDRAM

  Chipset
  Intel 915G

  Video-Graphics Card
  Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900

  Sound Card
  SoundMAX Cadenza

  Operating System provided and installed by Vendor
  Microsoft Windows XP Home license, Microsoft Windows XP Professional

  Link to Vendor website
  www.ibm.com/solutions/au/publicsector/edu_sol/t4l

--- end ---

Any ideas?  Anyone have any WinDIB-compatible SDL DLLs that would work
with Tux Paint that I can have him try?!

Thanks!

-bill!

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Execute bit incorrectly set in cvs

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

starters/skyline-sf-dusk-back.jpeg has the execute bit set.  I vaguely
recall it's difficult to change this in cvs (i.e. you can't just chmod
a-x and commit) ... and yes, if I do that, it's a NOOP.  And if I touch
the file and commit, then remove the file and re-update, the execute bit
is still set.

So ... how do we fix this?

Shouldn't that be .jpg anyway, or is .jpeg fine?

Ben

[Tuxpaint-devel] [fwd] [K12OSN] K12LTSP guinea pigs for Tux Paint?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

FYI!

----- Forwarded message from Eric Harrison -----

Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:47:50 -0700
From: Eric Harrison
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] K12LTSP guinea pigs for Tux Paint?
To: "Support list for opensource software in schools." <k1...@re...>

Bill Kendrick wrote:
> In the next few weeks, I hope to finally get Tux Paint 0.9.15 out the door.
> I was wondering if any K12LTSP users out here would be willing to try out
> what's currently in CVS and give me your feedback.
>
> You can learn how to get it from here:
>
>   http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/download/source/#cvs
>
> Feel free to contact me directly, or post your comments/issues to
> either the 'tuxpaint-devel' or 'tuxpaint-users' mailing list.
> (See http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/list/ )
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
>

I built a FC4/K12LTSP 4.4 package of this for those brave enough to try
it (my package has roughly 30 seconds worth of quality assurance ;-)

ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/testing/RPMS/tuxpaint-0.9.15-0.k12ltsp.4.4.1.i386.rpm


-Eric

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/photo/space 0_sun.png,NONE,1.1 0_sun.txt,NONE,1.1

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 08:10:41PM +0200, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:
> Because you didn't read the README.txt file. Quote:
> 
>   Note: Never edit the translations in the .txt files,
>   or run the .py scripts directly.

*slap!*

That'll teach me to try and do this crap in the middle of the night on
a Sunday. <:^(

Sorry...  (I _knew_ the part about not running the .py's directly,
but somehow just didn't bother reading the whole damned paragraph.)



-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint/docs CHANGES.txt,1.257,1.258 COPYING.txt,1.2,1.3 INSTALL.txt,1.3,1.4 OPTIONS.txt,1.22,1.23 PNG.txt,1.3,1.4 README.txt,1.50,1.51

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 08:11:58PM +0200, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:
> M=E5ndag 10. oktober 2005 19:25 skreiv William Kendrick:
>=20
> > Update of /cvsroot/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/docs
> > In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv18233
> >
> > Modified Files:
> > 	CHANGES.txt COPYING.txt INSTALL.txt OPTIONS.txt PNG.txt
> > 	README.txt
> > Log Message:
> > No reason to make it look like Bill did _everything_.
>=20
> But was there a reason for mangling all the non-ASCII characters?

Huh!?

-bill!
off to check CVS logs

[Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint/docs CHANGES.txt,1.257,1.258 COPYING.txt,1.2,1.3 INSTALL.txt,1.3,1.4 OPTIONS.txt,1.22,1.23 PNG.txt,1.3,1.4 README.txt,1.50,1.51

[Karl O. H. <ka...@mi...>]

M=E5ndag 10. oktober 2005 19:25 skreiv William Kendrick:

> Update of /cvsroot/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/docs
> In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv18233
>
> Modified Files:
> 	CHANGES.txt COPYING.txt INSTALL.txt OPTIONS.txt PNG.txt
> 	README.txt
> Log Message:
> No reason to make it look like Bill did _everything_.

But was there a reason for mangling all the non-ASCII characters?

=2D-=20
Karl Ove Hufthammer

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/photo/space 0_sun.png,NONE,1.1 0_sun.txt,NONE,1.1

[Karl O. H. <ka...@mi...>]

M=E5ndag 10. oktober 2005 19:05 skreiv Bill Kendrick:

> But why did the FR translation I had put in .txt disappeared and
> this other one (which is about the Moon, not the Sun) appeared in
> the PO?

Because you didn't read the README.txt file. Quote:

  Note: Never edit the translations in the .txt files,
  or run the .py scripts directly.

The .txt files are autogenerated files, *not* source files. If you=20
want to update the translations, you edit the PO files.

=2D-=20
Regards,
Karl Ove Hufthammer

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/photo/space 0_sun.png,NONE,1.1 0_sun.txt,NONE,1.1

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:40:05AM +0200, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:
> M=E5ndag 10. oktober 2005 09:42 skreiv Bill Kendrick:
>=20
> > Huh. ok, so after adding this .txt file, I ran the scripts sitting in
> > tuxpaint-stamps/po/  (createpo.sh, and then createtxt.sh, in that ord=
er.)
> >
> > And now all of the translations are gone.
> >
> > I checked on PO file at random, tuxpaint-stamps-fr.po, and it now con=
tains
> > this _incorrect_ fuzzy string!
> >
> >   # ../stamps/photo/space/moon_full
> >   #, fuzzy
> >   msgid "The Sun."
> >   msgstr "La pleine lune."
> >
> > So... are these scripts broken, or what!?
>=20
> They work perfectly fine for me. I have added regenerated and commited =
the=20
> files.
>=20
> It???s likely your system that is broken.

Based on your later email, you said that the fuzzy entry looked okay.
Once again, though, my problem was this:

1. Add a translation to a .txt file
2. Run these scripts
3. The translation disappears from the .txt file
   (I guess that's ok if it's fuzzy)
4. The translation does NOT appear in the corresponding updated .po file

In the "0_sun.txt" example that I gave, the French translation disappears
and got turned into one of the Moon translations.

Maybe it is my system, but I'm running whatever python, gettext and other
i18n stuff that's the latest in Debian Testing ('etch').  I can provide
version #s tonight when I get back home.

--=20
-bill!
bi...@ne...
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 release plans

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 08:43:44AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:10 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > I've added a "make release" target.  Thx! :)
> 
>         @cd .. ; \
>          find tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) -follow \
>              \( -wholename '*/CVS' -o -name .cvsignore \) \
>              -prune -o -type f -print0 | \
>            xargs -0 tar -czvf tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz 
> 
> What creates the tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) tree?  I could find no target
> that does this.  Perhaps you created this tree manually?  The "release"
> target needs to either do this itself or depend on a target that does
> this.

Ah, for the moment, I've simply hacked it by doing this:

  mv tuxpaint tuxpaint-0.9.15

But yeah, it would be good if there were a target that duplicated the
source tree into a versioned directory.  Maybe using that 'find' to copy
only the files we want, and then a simple 'tar' to roll it together.

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] Re: [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint-stamps/stamps/photo/space 0_sun.png,NONE,1.1 0_sun.txt,NONE,1.1

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:42:15AM +0200, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:
> M=E5ndag 10. oktober 2005 09:42 skreiv Bill Kendrick:
>=20
> > I checked on PO file at random, tuxpaint-stamps-fr.po, and it now con=
tains
> > this _incorrect_ fuzzy string!
> >
> > =A0 # ../stamps/photo/space/moon_full
> > =A0 #, fuzzy
> > =A0 msgid "The Sun."
> > =A0 msgstr "La pleine lune."
>=20
> BTW, there???s nothing wrong with it. It???s a *fuzzy* string; it???s t=
he=20
> translator???s job to fix it.

But why did the FR translation I had put in .txt disappeared and
this other one (which is about the Moon, not the Sun) appeared in the PO?

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 release plans

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 08:43 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:10 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > I've added a "make release" target.  Thx! :)
> 
>         @cd .. ; \
>          find tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) -follow \
>              \( -wholename '*/CVS' -o -name .cvsignore \) \
>              -prune -o -type f -print0 | \
>            xargs -0 tar -czvf tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz 
> 
> What creates the tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) tree?  I could find no target
> that does this.  Perhaps you created this tree manually?  The "release"
> target needs to either do this itself or depend on a target that does
> this.

By the way, I don't really like this business of making things outside
of the current tree.  The way I have most often see other packages
handle this is to create a directory called "build" which is populated
with the build target directories, something like:

Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -r1.79 Makefile
125c125,141
< release:
---
> releaseclean:
> 	@echo
> 	@echo "Cleaning release directory"
> 	@echo
> 	@rm -rf build/tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION)
> 
> releasedir: releaseclean
> 	@echo
> 	@echo "Creating release directory"
> 	@echo
> 	@mkdir -p build/tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION)
> 	@find . -follow \
> 	     \( -wholename '*/CVS' -o -name .cvsignore -o -name 'build' \) \
> 	     -prune -o -type f -exec cp --parents -vdp \{\} build/tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION)/ \;
> 
> 	
> release: build/tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION)
128,135c144,147
< 	@
< 	@make clean
< 	-@rm -f ../tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar
< 	@cd .. ; \
< 	 find tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) -follow \
< 	     \( -wholename '*/CVS' -o -name .cvsignore \) \
< 	     -prune -o -type f -print0 | \
< 	   xargs -0 tar -czvf tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz 
---
> 	@echo
> 	-@rm -f build/tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz
> 	@cd build ; \
> 	    tar -czvf tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION)

Nothing cleans "build" here because there might be a build from a prior
version still kicking around.  Maybe we need a reallyclean target that
nukes absolutely everything, including all build dir contents.

Ben

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.15 release plans

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:10 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> I've added a "make release" target.  Thx! :)

        @cd .. ; \
         find tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) -follow \
             \( -wholename '*/CVS' -o -name .cvsignore \) \
             -prune -o -type f -print0 | \
           xargs -0 tar -czvf tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION).tar.gz 

What creates the tuxpaint-$(VER_VERSION) tree?  I could find no target
that does this.  Perhaps you created this tree manually?  The "release"
target needs to either do this itself or depend on a target that does
this.

Ben