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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 & friends sources released

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Source releases for Tux Paint 0.9.18, Tux Paint Stamps 2007.11.21 and
Tux Paint Config 0.0.9 are now avaialble!  They can be downloaded from
SourceForge.net via the Tux Paint website:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/source/

A press release announcing the notable changes to this version is available
here:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/latest/


The following pre-compiled releases are expected soon:

  * Windows XP, 2000, Vista  [very soon]
  * Fedora Linux
  * Mac OS X
  * Windows 95, 98, ME

Enjoy!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-stamps] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:02:41PM +0000, Caroline Ford wrote:
> 
> I can try and get a calligraphy noise tomorrow if we still have time.

Too late! ;)  But thx.  And thx for the other sfx.
(The "Shift" one, in particular, was precisely what I wanted!)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-stamps] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

On 21/11/2007, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:22:23PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> > From my point of view, don't wait for me to submit your changes.  I
> > committed some Mac-related changes to CVS last night, and from this
> > point onward, most problems I need to resolve are build related, and
> > should only affect the files in the macosx directory.  I'm working in
> > my own local sandbox of Tux Paint files, so I'm not concerned about
> > new changes that are added to CVS.
>
> Thanks Martin.  So let's call this a freeze for 0.9.18, then.
> I can roll a 0.9.18b source tarball once you and/or John commit any changes
> required for your binary builds, after the initial 0.9.18 source release
> happens.

I can try and get a calligraphy noise tomorrow if we still have time.

Caroline

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-stamps] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:22:23PM -0700, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> From my point of view, don't wait for me to submit your changes.  I
> committed some Mac-related changes to CVS last night, and from this
> point onward, most problems I need to resolve are build related, and
> should only affect the files in the macosx directory.  I'm working in
> my own local sandbox of Tux Paint files, so I'm not concerned about
> new changes that are added to CVS.

Thanks Martin.  So let's call this a freeze for 0.9.18, then.
I can roll a 0.9.18b source tarball once you and/or John commit any changes
required for your binary builds, after the initial 0.9.18 source release
happens.

I would have liked for it to all go more smoothly, but... hey, this is
a completely volunteer-driven project, so it's to be expected.
(And, btw, despite all of my urging and stressing, I do want to thank everyone
for the incredible work they've been putting in!)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-stamps] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

Hi Albert,

>From my point of view, don't wait for me to submit your changes.  I
committed some Mac-related changes to CVS last night, and from this
point onward, most problems I need to resolve are build related, and
should only affect the files in the macosx directory.  I'm working in
my own local sandbox of Tux Paint files, so I'm not concerned about
new changes that are added to CVS.

Martin

On Nov 20, 2007 11:49 PM, Albert Cahalan <aca...@gm...> wrote:
> I hope you can branch that off for Martin F soon. I'd like to
> check in lots of OLPC-related changes as soon as I get
> them done, hopefully this weekend. It really can't go into
> this release though.
>
> BTW, I'm not so sure pre-XP is anything these days.
> If nothing else, the hardware itself will have died.
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:39:49PM +0100, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote:
> I have some starters at http://fornol.no-ip.org/linux/tuxpaint/starters/
> but I have some questions about them, so maybe is better to wait for the
> next release.

Yeah, perhaps.


> The only that doesn't give problems are Parchemin(.png -back.png) and
> perg(.png -back.png)
> 
> perg2* is a try to have texture applied when painting, but I have weird
> effects.

I'll take a look, when I have time.


> For the dotted ones, I'd prefer they were on the back, so you can paint
> over, but renaming as *-back.png tuxpaint doesnt show them :(

Yeah, you'd need a completely transparent non-"-back" PNG to go with them,
which is wasteful.  I should allow this to be more easily done.


> BTW, Is this the right list to ask about starters?

Yes!

Thx,

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Pere P. i C. <pe...@fo...>]

El dt 20 de 11 del 2007 a les 15:46 -0800, en/na Bill Kendrick va
escriure:
> I plan on releasing a source tarball of Tux Paint 0.9.18 this week.
> John P. will be able to create a build for Windows XP, 2000 and Vista
> (with Win95, 98 and ME to follow later on).  I'm guessing Martin F. will 
> be making a Universal Mac OS X a little after the initial release, as well.
> Shin-Ichi is no doubt ready to roll Fedora RPMs immediately.
> 
> The next day-or-so is your last chance to get changes into this release!
> 

I have some starters at http://fornol.no-ip.org/linux/tuxpaint/starters/
but I have some questions about them, so maybe is better to wait for the
next release.

The only that doesn't give problems are Parchemin(.png -back.png) and
perg(.png -back.png)

perg2* is a try to have texture applied when painting, but I have weird
effects.

For the dotted ones, I'd prefer they were on the back, so you can paint
over, but renaming as *-back.png tuxpaint doesnt show them :(

BTW, Is this the right list to ask about starters?

Yours
Pere

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Changes for OLPC XO (was Re: Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week)

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 01:49:59AM -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> I hope you can branch that off for Martin F soon.

I as well.  His dilemma is that he's got a 10.4 PPC Mac, so it's difficult
to get Intel/PPC 'Universal' binaries put together and thoroughly tested.
An Intel-Mac-owning friend of his has been helping, but has 10.5 already,
and that's caused issues for Martin.  *sigh*


> I'd like to check in lots of OLPC-related changes as soon as I get
> them done, hopefully this weekend. It really can't go into this
> release though.

Excellent.  A number of people have contacted me, recently, about Tux Paint
on the XO.  Glad to hear you're looking into it again!  Out of curiosity,
what kind of changes will you be making to Tux Paint?  Will they be XO-specific
(via #ifdef, for example), or broader changes?

I'd like to add some fixed-point math support to the Magic API at some point,
but it'd probably be best if I used some existing library for that, rather
than try to roll my own.  Anyone have recommendations?  (The best would
be something that could somehow be compiled using floating-point for systems
with FPUs, and compiled as fixed-point for systems that don't (Nokia, Zaurus,
etc.))


> BTW, I'm not so sure pre-XP is anything these days.
> If nothing else, the hardware itself will have died.

Heh, yeah.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear that many schools are still
running older stuff these days.  (When I was in high school, we had nothing
but Apple IIe systems, aside from the random Mac, until 1992!  I have no
idea how soon the lab full of 486es running Windows 3.1 was replaced when
Win95 came out...)

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint Magic API change

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

FYI ,I added a 'stopsound()' call to the Magic tool plugins API today.

(Some sounds created for some of the more recently-added effects were
a bit long, and it made sense to end them abruptly when the user releases
the mouse button.)

Thanks!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-stamps] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Albert C. <aca...@gm...>]

On Nov 20, 2007 6:46 PM, Bill Kendrick <nb...@so...> wrote:
>
> I plan on releasing a source tarball of Tux Paint 0.9.18 this week.
> John P. will be able to create a build for Windows XP, 2000 and Vista
> (with Win95, 98 and ME to follow later on).  I'm guessing Martin F. will
> be making a Universal Mac OS X a little after the initial release, as well.
> Shin-Ichi is no doubt ready to roll Fedora RPMs immediately.
>
> The next day-or-so is your last chance to get changes into this release!

I hope you can branch that off for Martin F soon. I'd like to
check in lots of OLPC-related changes as soon as I get
them done, hopefully this weekend. It really can't go into
this release though.

BTW, I'm not so sure pre-XP is anything these days.
If nothing else, the hardware itself will have died.

[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 coming this week

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

I plan on releasing a source tarball of Tux Paint 0.9.18 this week.
John P. will be able to create a build for Windows XP, 2000 and Vista
(with Win95, 98 and ME to follow later on).  I'm guessing Martin F. will 
be making a Universal Mac OS X a little after the initial release, as well.
Shin-Ichi is no doubt ready to roll Fedora RPMs immediately.

The next day-or-so is your last chance to get changes into this release!

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[Tuxpaint-devel] [semi-ot fwd] Article - Linux Makes the Grade

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Seen on Schoolforge's mailing list:

----- Forwarded message from John Mitchell -----

Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:33:45 -0500
From: John Mitchell
Subject: [school-discuss] Article - Linux Makes the Grade

Great piece on what all of us already know but nice to see in a 
mainstream periodical like /Technology and Learning/.

http://techlearning.com/story/showArticle.php?articleID=196604800

John Mitchell

----- End forwarded message -----

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 test builds available!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:08:58PM +0000, John Popplewell wrote:
> I've put up some instructions detailing how to build the dependencies
> and Tux Paint itself.
> 
> MinGW/MSYS - Tux Paint 0.9.18 (2K/XP only)
> http://johnnypops.demon.co.uk/mingw/index.html
> 
> MinGW/MSYS - Tux Paint 0.9.17 (9x/ME/2K/XP) <- the old stuff
> http://johnnypops.demon.co.uk/mingw-old/index.html

Would it make sense to include these with the Tux Paint source
documentation?  And/or put them on the website?

Thx

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-devel] Fwd: Tux Paint for Windows - including missing plugins!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

John P. has put together new test builds of 0.9.18 with the
missing "Magic" tools.  As usual, they're here:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/

Thanks!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 test builds available!

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:21:58AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> 
> John Popplewell and Shin-Ichi TOYAMA have each put together builds of what
> will become Tux Paint 0.9.18.  For those of you interested in beta-testing,
> please try them out and let us know if you have any problems or other
> comments!
> 
> Builds for Windows (both "installer" and "zip archive" flavros)
> are available here:
> 
>   ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/
> 
> They include Tux Paint and Tux Paint Config.
> <snip!>
Hi,

I've put up some instructions detailing how to build the dependencies
and Tux Paint itself.

MinGW/MSYS - Tux Paint 0.9.18 (2K/XP only)
http://johnnypops.demon.co.uk/mingw/index.html

MinGW/MSYS - Tux Paint 0.9.17 (9x/ME/2K/XP) <- the old stuff
http://johnnypops.demon.co.uk/mingw-old/index.html

I'm hoping to make a set of pre-built dependencies available so that
others may create new plugins without spending a lot of time just getting 
Tux Paint working. When it's been tested, Bill has offered to host the
pre-built bundle.

Working on a HOWTO for putting a plugin together,

cheers,
John.

[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 test builds available!

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

John Popplewell and Shin-Ichi TOYAMA have each put together builds of what
will become Tux Paint 0.9.18.  For those of you interested in beta-testing,
please try them out and let us know if you have any problems or other
comments!

Builds for Windows (both "installer" and "zip archive" flavros)
are available here:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/win32/

They include Tux Paint and Tux Paint Config.


RPM packages for Fedora CORE 2 thru Fedora 7 (for x86-compatible platforms)
are also available.  Tux Paint itself:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/rpm/tuxpaint/

and Tux Paint Config.:

  ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/rpm/tuxpaint-config/


Enjoy!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 -- shooting for mid-November

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:04:39PM +0900, TOYAMA Shin-ichi wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I think we should have some time to check binary build for each 
> platforms before next release, because, as I already e-maild you, 
> there still remains rendering problem with SDL_ttf (nopango).
> 
> John, how is the build environment for Win32?
I've got a fully documented Win2K/XP build with Pango, Cairo etc.
working. I will get a beta version out this weekend - hangover
permitting :-)

There's just a couple of extra build steps required related to gathering
the default settings and modules for fontconfig, GTK+ and Pango.

Win9x/ME is going to be a separate build with different versions of Glib
and the others (if there's any point trying). Not sure yet what isn't
going to work - I don't think Cairo works on Win9x/ME (at all) and I
suspect Pango uses Cairo as a backend. Also, librsvg uses Cairo so I
think the Win9x/ME port is probably stuck with the libsvg partial
implementation.

But I could be wrong. There is a massive chain of dependencies and I've
not really been worrying about the Win9x/ME port,

regards,
John.

> Bill Kendrick wrote in <200...@so...>
> >
> >Martin says he'll need until the end of next week to get things
> >straightened out on the OS X side (including updating XCode stuff for the
> >new libs we're using, providing some notes on building "Magic" plug-in tools,
> >and getting some help building some libs for Intel Macs).
> >
> >John P., do you think you'll need any longer than that, at this rate, to get
> >the Win32 stuff going?
> >
> >Anyone else out here need more time to prepare for the next release?
> >(Shin-Ichi, Ben, etc.?)
> >
> >If we're good, that'll mean a new release some time in the week of
> >November 19th!
> >
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 -- shooting for mid-November

[TOYAMA Shin-i. <sh...@wm...>]

Hi!

I think we should have some time to check binary build for each 
platforms before next release, because, as I already e-maild you, 
there still remains rendering problem with SDL_ttf (nopango).

John, how is the build environment for Win32?



Bill Kendrick wrote in <200...@so...>
>
>Martin says he'll need until the end of next week to get things
>straightened out on the OS X side (including updating XCode stuff for the
>new libs we're using, providing some notes on building "Magic" plug-in tools,
>and getting some help building some libs for Intel Macs).
>
>John P., do you think you'll need any longer than that, at this rate, to get
>the Win32 stuff going?
>
>Anyone else out here need more time to prepare for the next release?
>(Shin-Ichi, Ben, etc.?)
>
>If we're good, that'll mean a new release some time in the week of
>November 19th!
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Digital Arts & Crafts Studio (USB tablet/etc. for kids); help getting it to work under Linux

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:10:41AM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> I'll be on #tux4kids IRC channel on irc.freenode.net tomorrow morning
> (11/8) from ~7:15am until ~10am (my Amtrak ride :^) ), with the device,
> and probably some time to try and debug, if anyone wants to help! :)

Those times are Pacific Standard Time, BTW, sorry. :)
So it'd be 15:15 to 18:00 UTC.  (About 7hrs from when I send this post...
crud, I need to get to bed!!!)

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[Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18 -- shooting for mid-November

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Martin says he'll need until the end of next week to get things
straightened out on the OS X side (including updating XCode stuff for the
new libs we're using, providing some notes on building "Magic" plug-in tools,
and getting some help building some libs for Intel Macs).

John P., do you think you'll need any longer than that, at this rate, to get
the Win32 stuff going?

Anyone else out here need more time to prepare for the next release?
(Shin-Ichi, Ben, etc.?)

If we're good, that'll mean a new release some time in the week of
November 19th!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Digital Arts & Crafts Studio (USB tablet/etc. for kids); help getting it to work under Linux

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

So the libhid folks suggested, based on how simple the device's Usage tree was,
that using libusb directly would be simpler.  Unfortunately, no luck so far.

I can connect to it (though with libusb, I haven't convinced the kernel to
detatch from the device, like libhid was doing for me -- currently, I need
to first run 'libhid-detatch-device' or somesuch, until I reboot or
unplug/plugin the tablet).  I haven't figured out how to read data from it,
in either interrupt, bulk or control modes. :^(

I'll be on #tux4kids IRC channel on irc.freenode.net tomorrow morning
(11/8) from ~7:15am until ~10am (my Amtrak ride :^) ), with the device,
and probably some time to try and debug, if anyone wants to help! :)

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[Tuxpaint-devel] "Tux Paint Contributors" group created on LinkedIn

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

For those of you who are on LinkedIn, (1) feel free to find me and
request to become part of my network and (2) I requested the creation of
a "Tux Paint Contributors" group, which they've approved.  Go here to make
a request to join:

  http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/40785/6CACBE64C696

Thanks!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.18rc1 available

[Pere P. i C. <pe...@fo...>]

El dl 29 de 10 del 2007 a les 22:34 +0100, en/na Pere Pujal i Carabantes
va escriure:
> El ds 27 de 10 del 2007 a les 10:39 -0700, en/na Bill Kendrick va
> escriure:
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:05:54AM +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote:
> > > Well, I have uninstalled some fonts and now tuxpaint text tool runs
> > > right.
> > > 
> > > If I have more time I will try to identify the offending font.
> 
> The font that is crashing tuxpaint on my box comes with the package
> ttf-arabeyes.

Well, it crashes tuxpaint because it installs 39 ttf fonts at a time.

Installing some other font packages that has less number of fonts doesnt
crash tuxpaint until they reach a limit.

I can reproduce crashing without ttf-arabeyes, just by putting an
apropiate number of fonts in the .tuxpaint/fonts directory 

The maximum number of fonts that tuxpaint allows on my box without
crashing is 127 in case if it helps. (BTW xfontsel shows about 32000
installed fonts , but tuxpaint just show up to 127 fonts)


Hope this helps
Yours
Pere

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-users] Digital Arts & Crafts Studio

[Caroline F. <car...@go...>]

On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 18:58 -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote:

> Wacom also supports tilt and pressure sensitivity.  I got that to work
> within an Wacom-aware proof-of-concept paint application written by one
> of the Gimp developers, if I recall correctly.  I think there was also
> some sort of Wacom driver involved, I don't remember - It's been really
> long.  I can dig around if you need that info.

http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/

> In any case, if it's Wacom-compatible then you should be able to get it
> working like a standard mouse pretty easy provided there's a compatible
> USB mouse device you can specify.
> 
> > We know a driver is attaching to it, we just don't know any more.. 
> 
> Looks like it's just a raw HID device driver to me from the messages.  I
> would've hoped it would possibly create two devices if the system really
> understood what it was, one device for mouse-compatible input and
> another for extra data like pressure sensitivity.  Perhaps the USB HID
> protocol allows both mouse-compatible events and extra data events to
> occur in a single USB HID stream.

http://www.frogmouth.net/hid-doco/linux-hid.html is it I think

Caroline

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-users] Digital Arts & Crafts Studio

[Mark K. K. <mkk...@gm...>]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:47:20PM +0000, Caroline Ford wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 10:01 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:53:16PM +0000, Caroline Ford wrote:
> > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTroubleshooting
> > > 
> > > This makes it look like it may be xorg.conf related.
> > 
> > That assumes it's a Wacom-based device (which it probably is, based on how
> > it works -- not that I've played with other brands of digitizers, other than
> > on PDAs and a Koala Pad back on the C=64 and Atari :) -- that is, you hover
> > the stylus to move, and touch the stylus to click).

Wacom tablets should be backwards-compatible with the standard mice.  I
have a serial-port Wacom tablet that I could just plug in and use with X
(just configure X so it points to the device as a mouse pointer with an
"appropriate mouse type" specified as the pointer type.) - I just
unplugged my existing serial mouse, plugged in the wacom tablet, and
there I went without any extra drivers or configuring or nothin'.

Wacom also supports tilt and pressure sensitivity.  I got that to work
within an Wacom-aware proof-of-concept paint application written by one
of the Gimp developers, if I recall correctly.  I think there was also
some sort of Wacom driver involved, I don't remember - It's been really
long.  I can dig around if you need that info.

In any case, if it's Wacom-compatible then you should be able to get it
working like a standard mouse pretty easy provided there's a compatible
USB mouse device you can specify.

> We know a driver is attaching to it, we just don't know any more.. 

Looks like it's just a raw HID device driver to me from the messages.  I
would've hoped it would possibly create two devices if the system really
understood what it was, one device for mouse-compatible input and
another for extra data like pressure sensitivity.  Perhaps the USB HID
protocol allows both mouse-compatible events and extra data events to
occur in a single USB HID stream.

Eh.  Whatever.  Try it and find out.

-Mark