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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] FPS timing, CLI param beginnings

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

You also have to remember to have CVS_RSH set as 'ssh' (can't tell you
how many times I've forgotten that on some new machine and cursed SF's
CVS, when I was just being forgetful ;-)

On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 14:46, nbs wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:32:21PM -0800, Jacob Greig wrote:
> > ill clean it up and submit it when i go home
> > 
> > is sf cvs still giving you problems? if so maybe we need to ask sam if tuxmath can move its cvs to the new server?
> > 
> 
> Seems to work ok now.  I may have let my password expire or forgot it or
> something.  I reset it and was able to, at the least, do a 'cvs update'
> (nothing changed ;) )
> 
> -bill!
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] FPS timing, CLI param beginnings

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:32:21PM -0800, Jacob Greig wrote:
> ill clean it up and submit it when i go home
> 
> is sf cvs still giving you problems? if so maybe we need to ask sam if tuxmath can move its cvs to the new server?
> 

Seems to work ok now.  I may have let my password expire or forgot it or
something.  I reset it and was able to, at the least, do a 'cvs update'
(nothing changed ;) )

-bill!

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] FPS timing, CLI param beginnings

[Jacob G. <bom...@fi...>]

ill clean it up and submit it when i go home

is sf cvs still giving you problems? if so maybe we need to ask sam if tuxmath can move its cvs to the new server?

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--- nbs <nb...@so...> wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:09:43PM -0800, Jacob Greig wrote:
>> I have some patches against tuxmath (older snapshot but it may still be fine) that do some fps timing cleanup and the beginnings of cli paramerters that have been sitting on my harddrive since last semester.
>> 
>> would you guys like me to submit them anyway?
>
>I'd be ok with it, I think.
>
>I haven't had the chance/inclination to touch TuxMath in a long time.
>Last time I tried to make sure I had the latest out of the SF CVS,
>it didn't seem to work.
>
>-bill!
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] FPS timing, CLI param beginnings

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:09:43PM -0800, Jacob Greig wrote:
> I have some patches against tuxmath (older snapshot but it may still be fine) that do some fps timing cleanup and the beginnings of cli paramerters that have been sitting on my harddrive since last semester.
> 
> would you guys like me to submit them anyway?

I'd be ok with it, I think.

I haven't had the chance/inclination to touch TuxMath in a long time.
Last time I tried to make sure I had the latest out of the SF CVS,
it didn't seem to work.

-bill!

[Tuxmath-devel] FPS timing, CLI param beginnings

[Jacob G. <bom...@fi...>]

I have some patches against tuxmath (older snapshot but it may still be fine) that do some fps timing cleanup and the beginnings of cli paramerters that have been sitting on my harddrive since last semester.

would you guys like me to submit them anyway?

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[Tuxmath-devel] Re: Docs standards for Tux4kids - AbiWord

[Sam H. <ha...@ph...>]

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, nbs wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:57:57AM -0800, Calvin Arndt wrote:
> > Sam and I have been dicussing documentation standards offlist
> > 
> > We wonder how everyone would feel about using Abiword and its file
> > format
> > .abw for developer documentation for the tux4kids project?
> 
> Sounds fine to me.  I'm a little confused (and tired ;) ) - what counts
> as "developer documentation?"  Is it as opposed to user documentation?

Yes, it is.

Right now, there's no dev documentation. But we are working on making some
(at least) for Tux Typing (see chatlog from Sunday).

Basically, we're wanting to make entrance into projects easier for others
not intimately tied with them. Plus, we are thinking-of/working-on general
engines for things, that, if they were to be reused, we'd need good dev
documents.

BTW, Bill, I've been spending the last week or two updating TuxTyping
(web-site, CVS, etc., etc.). This next week, I'm going to try and do the
same for TuxMath. As soon as I get more Noink2 infrastructure done, I will
add all the admin stuff to TuxMath that I've been promising for months ;-)

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Docs standards for Tux4kids - AbiWord

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:57:57AM -0800, Calvin Arndt wrote:
> Sam and I have been dicussing documentation standards offlist
> 
> We wonder how everyone would feel about using Abiword and its file
> format
> .abw for developer documentation for the tux4kids project?

Sounds fine to me.  I'm a little confused (and tired ;) ) - what counts
as "developer documentation?"  Is it as opposed to user documentation?

Thx!

-bill!


> One of the biggest plusses to using Abiword is that it then  becomes
> trivial to create good html/xthml docs from it..
> 
> 
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[Tuxmath-devel] Docs standards for Tux4kids - AbiWord

[Calvin A. <cal...@ya...>]

Sam and I have been dicussing documentation standards offlist

We wonder how everyone would feel about using Abiword and its file
format
.abw for developer documentation for the tux4kids project?

One of the biggest plusses to using Abiword is that it then  becomes
trivial to create good html/xthml docs from it..



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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Tux4Kids chatlog

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:42:17PM -0700, Samuel Hart wrote:
> Here is the summary page (and link to chatlog) for the chat that
> occurred today in #tux4kids @ irc.openprojects.net.

Sorry I missed it.  I dropped in to my LUG's Installfest today, planning
to only be there about 10 minutes.  4 hours later, I finally left. ;)

-bill!

[Tuxmath-devel] Tux4Kids chatlog

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

Here is the summary page (and link to chatlog) for the chat that
occurred today in #tux4kids @ irc.openprojects.net. This chat largely
dealt with Tux Typing internationalization issues, but some misc.
Tux4Kids items were discussed as well:

http://www.tux4kids.org/tux4kids/chatlogs/2002-03-17.html

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[Tuxmath-devel] #tux4kids IRC chat

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

I'll be in #tux4kids IRC chat on irc.openprojects.net on and off today
(Sun, Mar 17th, 2002) if anyone would like to talk to me about anything
Tux4Kids related.

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Much condolences

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:46:03PM -0700, Sam Hart wrote:
> Sorry folks, I've been very unreliable for a while now.
<snip>

Welcome back. ;)

-bill!

[Tuxmath-devel] Much condolences

[Sam H. <cri...@ge...>]

Sorry folks, I've been very unreliable for a while now. I have no unique
excuse, just the same old stuff you always hear from Open-Source
developers who stop contributing for a while. Anyone really interested
in the sordid details should probably read my diary entries since Feb. 6
at http://www.geekcomix.com/snh/ , and we'll leave it at that. But I'm
back, and I apologize.

Next item of business, my mail has had "issues". Long story short, I
have lost a great deal of unread mail (I have no idea how much). Anyone
who has sent me something urgent recently should probably send it again.
Also, anyone who got bounces from my mail, know that the problems are
now (theoretically) fixed.

Apologies and notices out of the way, I expect some people will probably
want to be off of these dev lists (they may have lost interest, or are
ticked at me, or whatever). Anyone wanting to remove themselves from
these lists feel free. If you do, however, please contact me privately
so I can thank you for the work and effort you've put in. Especially
contact me if you were someone with CVS or Bug-Tracking access on
SourceForge/Savannah and want to be relieved of those duties.

Tux4Kids:
---------
I'm moving forward again. Sorry to hold everything back so much with my
absence. This really proves I need to delegate more ;-) Anyway, here's
some minor notes of interest that you guys may or may not know of:

	Noink2: The web-based infrastructure work is still coming. I
	actually restarted back in feb because I felt the direction I
	was going was stupid. You can get all the Noink2 work from the
	noink2 CVS repository.

	New-Physics Teaching Aide: I've been discussing doing a complete
	re-write of a physics teaching system at use at the U of A
	Physics Department. I've managed to get several people
	interested, and we're proceeding with doing it as a Free-
	Software project. This will not exactly be "4Kids", but it will
	be something that can be used for College and High School age
	students. No site or source code repository yet. Anyone
	interested should probably just contact me privately at this
	point.

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[Tuxmath-devel] Hello :)

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

We need to finish this game :)

Anyone home?

-bill!

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Installed CVS version

[nbs <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 10:03:17AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
> Hi, 
> Just FYI, I managed to install the CVS version of TuxMath. Pretty neat.

Thanks! :)


> There is, indeed, a problem with the level of difficulty on many problems. 
> Some quite difficult ones mixed in with some very easy ones. Are there plans 
> for a more structured way of handling the level of difficulty with the 
> problems?  Perhaps being able to configure the game based on age and/or grade 
> level.

Well, this is really where I want lots of feedback,
especially from educators (eg, elementary school
teachers).

(See the 'Options' screen :) )


> BTW, I liked the igloo graphic posted earlier this week. Perhaps an option 
> could be to change the graphics based on age level (just thinking out loud...)

That might be overkill.  One or the other should
be fine.  What do others think of the graphic?


Thx!

-bill!

[Tuxmath-devel] Installed CVS version

[Tim W. <tw...@iw...>]

Hi, 
Just FYI, I managed to install the CVS version of TuxMath. Pretty neat.
There is, indeed, a problem with the level of difficulty on many problems. 
Some quite difficult ones mixed in with some very easy ones. Are there plans 
for a more structured way of handling the level of difficulty with the 
problems?  Perhaps being able to configure the game based on age and/or grade 
level.
BTW, I liked the igloo graphic posted earlier this week. Perhaps an option 
could be to change the graphics based on age level (just thinking out loud...)

Regards, 
Tim
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[Tuxmath-devel] I like the igloo idea :)

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

How does this look for a start?

  http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/igloo.gif


Should I do with it (and do the 'explosion' animations?)

I was thinking they could be filled with Tux's stash of herring.
(Thus removing the Sept.11th-conjuring visuals, and also having the
advantage of making the game's premise make more sense... sorta ;) )

-bill!

[nbs@sonic.net: Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Introduction]

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:41:38AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
<snip>
> 
> I'll download it this weekend and play with it a little. Might even have the 
> 9-year old test drive it.

Great!  Excuse the insane levels of both difficulty and easiness. :)
I really need to pull the current code down from CVS onto my freshly installed
Debian box and start tweaking...  I think I'll do that now! :)
(He says, at nearly 12am on a weeknight :) )


<snip> 
> Puzzle games are good. Get the kids analyzing and thinking. 
> But we (the linux community) gotta do something about the dirth of linux 
> games for kids. They're giving away friggin' CD's with Windows games on them 
> at Burger King now. Sheesh! I wanted to go back and ask them for the linux 
> version...

Heheheh...  I always like arguing when people say "PC" vs "Mac".
Hey!  My computer's a PC!  You didn't say _anything_ about it needing to
run Windows. :)

I wonder if I could sue people...?  Hmm! ;)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Introduction

[Tim W. <tw...@iw...>]

Previously, William Kendrick chose to write:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:29:54AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just ran into tux4kids.org while following links from a Newsforge
> > story (SDL Game contest results announced).
>
> Cool! :)  (I'm Bill - 3rd place for Vectoroids. :)  I need a sash or a
> medal or something now ;) )
>

Congrats. Virtual medal is in the virtual mail ;)

> > It looks very interesting
> > and I'd like to get involved, if the project is still active.
>
> I honestly haven't been in the mood to work on TuxMath for some
> reason... of course, the whole Sept. 11th attack made us all question
> the premise of the game, but it seems most people feel we should
> keep it, if not tweak it only slightly.
>

Well, I can see your point. But kids are resilient, if anything. As the game 
places them in the position of protector, it can be perceived as a good 
thing. Kids and violent images are a touchy subject, but protecting animated 
cities from cartoonish comets, I think, is far enough away from "reality" to 
not be of major concern.

That being said, something more innoucuous (sp) would certainly be OK, too.

> > I'm not much of a developer, but there's gotta be something I can do to
> > help.
> > I've been a linux user for a couple years now and my family is nearly
> > 100% Windows-free (I've got Windows 98 SE installed on one partition,
> > but it's rarely used).
>
> Congrats! :)  (This past holiday season, I'd tell people that my
> house had "Not one Microsoft product... not even a mouse"  ;) )
>
>
> <snip>
>
> > So, that being said, how can I help?
>
> Well, testing and suggestions are always useful! ;) ;)
> (I especially want them for TuxMath, so I can finish the options screen)
>

I'll download it this weekend and play with it a little. Might even have the 
9-year old test drive it.

> I'm also interested in working on some other, more suite-like games...
> every time I see little electronic education kids' toys at stores,
> I want to make stuff like it for PCs. :)
>

Puzzle games are good. Get the kids analyzing and thinking. 
But we (the linux community) gotta do something about the dirth of linux 
games for kids. They're giving away friggin' CD's with Windows games on them 
at Burger King now. Sheesh! I wanted to go back and ask them for the linux 
version...

> -bill!
> (and I don't even have any kids! (yet))
>

Tim

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Introduction

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 03:37:18PM -0500, Jesse Andrews wrote:
> Congrats, Bill!!
> 
> I am planning on downloading your game to try it out....

I hope you like... :)


> Any ideas for new projects?

There was a letter/spelling toy I saw recently.
It had a database of sound clips of three letter words
(cat, dad, tap, etc.)

That might be fun to simulate for the desktop..

-b!

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Introduction

[Jesse A. <jd...@uk...>]

Congrats, Bill!!

I am planning on downloading your game to try it out....

Any ideas for new projects?  I am not sure myself...  I would love to create 
something like "The Incredible Machine", but that is patented...

Something musical would be nice as well....

Jesse

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 15:12, William Kendrick wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:29:54AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just ran into tux4kids.org while following links from a Newsforge
> > story (SDL Game contest results announced).
>
> Cool! :)  (I'm Bill - 3rd place for Vectoroids. :)  I need a sash or a
> medal or something now ;) )
>
> > It looks very interesting
> > and I'd like to get involved, if the project is still active.
>
> I honestly haven't been in the mood to work on TuxMath for some
> reason... of course, the whole Sept. 11th attack made us all question
> the premise of the game, but it seems most people feel we should
> keep it, if not tweak it only slightly.
>
> > I'm not much of a developer, but there's gotta be something I can do to
> > help.
> > I've been a linux user for a couple years now and my family is nearly
> > 100% Windows-free (I've got Windows 98 SE installed on one partition,
> > but it's rarely used).
>
> Congrats! :)  (This past holiday season, I'd tell people that my
> house had "Not one Microsoft product... not even a mouse"  ;) )
>
>
> <snip>
>
> > So, that being said, how can I help?
>
> Well, testing and suggestions are always useful! ;) ;)
> (I especially want them for TuxMath, so I can finish the options screen)
>
> I'm also interested in working on some other, more suite-like games...
> every time I see little electronic education kids' toys at stores,
> I want to make stuff like it for PCs. :)
>
> -bill!
> (and I don't even have any kids! (yet))
>
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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Introduction

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:29:54AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
> Hi,
> I just ran into tux4kids.org while following links from a Newsforge 
> story (SDL Game contest results announced).

Cool! :)  (I'm Bill - 3rd place for Vectoroids. :)  I need a sash or a
medal or something now ;) )


> It looks very interesting 
> and I'd like to get involved, if the project is still active.

I honestly haven't been in the mood to work on TuxMath for some
reason... of course, the whole Sept. 11th attack made us all question
the premise of the game, but it seems most people feel we should
keep it, if not tweak it only slightly.


> I'm not much of a developer, but there's gotta be something I can do to 
> help.
> I've been a linux user for a couple years now and my family is nearly 
> 100% Windows-free (I've got Windows 98 SE installed on one partition, 
> but it's rarely used).

Congrats! :)  (This past holiday season, I'd tell people that my
house had "Not one Microsoft product... not even a mouse"  ;) )


<snip>
> So, that being said, how can I help?

Well, testing and suggestions are always useful! ;) ;)
(I especially want them for TuxMath, so I can finish the options screen)

I'm also interested in working on some other, more suite-like games...
every time I see little electronic education kids' toys at stores,
I want to make stuff like it for PCs. :)

-bill!
(and I don't even have any kids! (yet))

[Tuxmath-devel] Introduction

[Tim W. <tw...@iw...>]

Hi,
I just ran into tux4kids.org while following links from a Newsforge 
story (SDL Game contest results announced). It looks very interesting 
and I'd like to get involved, if the project is still active.
I'm not much of a developer, but there's gotta be something I can do to 
help.
I've been a linux user for a couple years now and my family is nearly 
100% Windows-free (I've got Windows 98 SE installed on one partition, 
but it's rarely used). My distribution of choice is Caldera, because it 
works. I started with Caldera 2.3 and am currently running 3.1 (with 
kernel 2.4.9 and X 4.1.0), while my son's PC is running the 3.1.1 beta.
(do not be confused by my posting from Mozilla under Win2K, I'm 
currently at work...)
So, that being said, how can I help?
Regards,
Tim Wunder
Baltimore, MD USA

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] fb console problems

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Thursday 29 November 2001 05:17, Calvin Arndt wrote:
> When run on the framebuffer console (ie. no X) tuxmath flashes the
> comets, cities and tux at his desk. It appears to happen at framerate
> one frame the parts are visible and the next they're invisible.
>
> This only applies to the console game, works fine under X.

I have noticed some issues with writing SDL apps under the fbcon like these, 
but I am yet to completely figure out what is causing them. They happen 
pretty much uniformly whether we use SDL_FLip(..) or SDL_UpdateRects(..)

> Also I've noted that if the data is missing or placed incorrectly
> instead of the error being handled graciously as it is in X, when on
> the console the error causes a complete lock up.

Well, then don't do that ;-)

Actually, this could potentially be a problem we'll want to look into.

> I've verified this on several different setup (video cards, cpu's
> distro's and gcc's 2.7 up to 2.9.3)
>
> On very fast machines 300mhz or faster running with kernel 2.4.8 (and
> newer) and X 4.1 (low latency stuff) the number of comets and the speed
> with which they desend drops to less than 10 seconds for the fall and
> I've seen as many as 8 - 12 comets on the screen at once!
>
> Also under those conditions the numbers seem to get rediculously large
> for the math operations (137 * 11!!!) I can't even get that one!!!

Right, these are all settings we originally wanted to handle in the options 
screen. Bill (or anyone), any work being done on the options screen? I think 
we've gotten quite a few ideas and we should probably just proceed on it.

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[Tuxmath-devel] fb console problems

[Calvin A. <cal...@ya...>]

When run on the framebuffer console (ie. no X) tuxmath flashes the
comets, cities and tux at his desk. It appears to happen at framerate
one frame the parts are visible and the next they're invisible.

This only applies to the console game, works fine under X.

Also I've noted that if the data is missing or placed incorrectly
instead of the error being handled graciously as it is in X, when on
the console the error causes a complete lock up. 

I've verified this on several different setup (video cards, cpu's
distro's and gcc's 2.7 up to 2.9.3)

On very fast machines 300mhz or faster running with kernel 2.4.8 (and
newer) and X 4.1 (low latency stuff) the number of comets and the speed
with which they desend drops to less than 10 seconds for the fall and
I've seen as many as 8 - 12 comets on the screen at once!

Also under those conditions the numbers seem to get rediculously large
for the math operations (137 * 11!!!) I can't even get that one!!!



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