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[Tuxmath-devel] [Fwd: Tux of Math Command now categorized as MacOS 9 on SourceForge.net]

[Sam H. <cri...@ge...>]

Just something I rec'd a while back, and am only now getting to.

Do we have any progress on the Mac OS 9 or X ports? I hope to have the 
release management app ready this week so that next week, if needs be, 
we could make a release.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Tux of Math Command now categorized as MacOS 9 on SourceForge.net
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:53:12 -0800
From: <joh...@so...>
To: <cri...@us...>


Dear SourceForge.net user,

You are receiving this because you have a project in the MacOS trove
category
(http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=221). This is
to
inform you that in order to facilitate better categorization, we will move

your project to the MacOS 9 category, which is a subcategory of MacOS. If
your project is actually specific to MacOS X, please change it to the
MacOS X
category in the trove map as soon as possible. If you are happy to have
your
project in the MacOS 9 category, then you need not do anything.

We simply do not want any projects to categorize themselves generically as

MacOS, since OS 9 and OS X are radically different from the developers'
viewpoint.

Thanks for your patience and cooperation.

-John Mark Walker
SourceForge.net
joh...@sf...


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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Not back online...

[Sam H. <cri...@ge...>]

Okay, whatever the problem was, it was KMail's, as Mozilla mail seems to 
be reading my messages fine....

So I am back online, /for real/.... I still need to catch up, but you 
can e-mail me again....

Samuel Hart wrote:

> BLARG!
> 
> Okay, I am not back online yet... My e-mail headers are being garbled along 
> their way to me (I'm not sure where the problem lies). It may be a server 
> issue, or some new oddity in KMail I don't know of.
> 
> If anyone wants to get a hold of me, please use 
> hart(at)physics(dot)arizona(dot)edu (replacing the (at) with @ and (dot)'s 
> with '.'s)
> 
> 

[Tuxmath-devel] Not back online...

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

BLARG!

Okay, I am not back online yet... My e-mail headers are being garbled along 
their way to me (I'm not sure where the problem lies). It may be a server 
issue, or some new oddity in KMail I don't know of.

If anyone wants to get a hold of me, please use 
hart(at)physics(dot)arizona(dot)edu (replacing the (at) with @ and (dot)'s 
with '.'s)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Back online...

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

Okay everyone, after some rather hellacious experiences (and one bug in the 
Debian Testing kmail/kde-crypto packages) i am now back online.

I am not caught up with my e-mail, but you can go ahead and contact me again 
if you feel like it.

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Poll results

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Wednesday 07 November 2001  4:21, Samuel Hart wrote:
> In case no one else has checked the poll results:
> http://www.geekcomix.com/dm/tuxmath/poll.shtml

Whoops! Make that
http://www.tux4kids.org/dm/tuxmath/poll.shtml

(Let this be a reminder to everyone to /update your bookmarks/! ;-)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Poll results

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

In case no one else has checked the poll results:
http://www.geekcomix.com/dm/tuxmath/poll.shtml

We have a majority of people saying that they want the animation to remain 
the same (57.5%), so I say we just leave the animation as is. Honestly, I no 
longer feel uneasiness about the animation.

So let's just press on.

By next monday, I will have the new release software online so we should be 
able to do any releases as necessary then.

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[Tuxmath-devel] Fwd: Tux at NSBA

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

I am actually not certain if I can forward this or not, but I thought 
everyone would be interested in it none-the-less ;-)

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
Subject: Tux at NSBA
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:10:34 -0500
From: "Chris Dunbar" <ch...@du...>
To: <cri...@ge...>


Hi Sam,

In case Dave didn't spread the good news, we will be demonstrating Tux
Typing and Tux, of Math Command in the Sun booth at the National School
Boards Association's Technology + Learning conference (www.nsba.org/T+L)
in Atlanta this week. We have the applications running on several Sun
Rays and will use them to demonstrate the K12 content available under
Solaris. I think this will be some good exposure for your products.

Regards,
Chris

-------------------------------------------------------

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[Tuxmath-devel] Tux4Kids general announcements

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

I have a few announcements that should go to the general Tux4Kids audience. 
Unfortunately, we don't yet have all the appropriate mailing lists set up, so 
I'm just sending it to our most active projects.

Build/Release Support Manager
==
Calvin Arndt <cal...@ya...> has graciously accepted the task of being 
the official File Release & Build Support Manager for Tux4Kids. His duties 
will include coordinating file releases with the projects and assisting with 
individual projects build procedures (as needed).  If you are a project 
manager, Calvin will be the one you inform of new releases. If you are a 
binary packager (and want your package released with each project release), 
then you will work with Calvin to get your package included in each release.

We will soon have some new infrastructure servers, as well as some new admin 
scripts which will make his duties a lot easier. In the meantime, please bear 
with us as we transition into the new systems. As soon as everything is set 
up for him, we'll let those involved know (privately) the proper procedures 
for file releases.

PR Support Manager
==
Cassandra Hart <ca...@ge...> (my wife ;-) has accepted the task of 
being the Tux4Kids PR Support Manager. She will handle major PR releases and 
major project announcements. Her duties are still being defined, but any 
project managers can feel free to contact her in the interim.

@Tux4Kids.org Mailing Lists
==
We will be migrating our mailing lists to @tux4kids.org. We also will be 
having some core, admin, etc. lists @tux4kids.org. Please bear with us until 
these are completed. In the meantime, those of you who are supposed to be on 
some of the new @tux4kids.org lists, plase don't use them yet. I prematurely 
said that they are ready ;-)

Questions? Please direct them (off-list) to me.

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[Tuxmath-devel] Feedback requested: What Dev/Admin software is needed?

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

We are going to be having some new hosting services (as I have already 
mentioned ;-) and I was wondering if I could get everyone's feedback as 
what's /really/ needed on these machines. Naturally, I want to be frugal with 
respect to system resources, but I do want to cover all of our current and 
future project's needs.

Here's the few items I am already aware we will need:
* CVS - http://www.cvshome.org
* CVSWeb - http://www.cvshome.org/project/www/docs/ddSourceBrowse.html
* BugZilla - http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bugzilla/
* Mailing Lists (preferably Mailman ;-)

I have also been taken with Faq-O-Matic:
http://faqomatic.sourceforge.net/

We will probably also need some sort of simple news/announcement app for each 
subproject (for making web announcements or project news). Something like 
Slash would be way overkill for this, but a blog would be too simplistic.

As far as Wiki's are concerned.... I've found these to be not very intuitive 
for non-technical people (meaning, they'd probably be useless to much of our 
intended audience). Plus, there are so many Wiki's to choose from, I'd have 
no idea which were good and which weren't.

Anyway, please send me feedback of your opinions. We will soon have a 
tux4kids-core mailing list where these items can be discussed, but for now, 
I'm forced to use the existing mailing lists of our most active projects ;-)

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Re: [Tuxtype-dev] Dumping SourceForge?

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Saturday 13 October 2001  9:07, Calvin Arndt wrote:
> Does this mean we lose the list archives? I would guess not, but I
> think that would be me only issue...

No, but it may change locations for future list archives.

I suspect that we could keep the Geocrawler account for it, but I am not 
certain (heck, at the very least we could remove everyone from the existing 
SourceForge lists, and then have the new lists CC everything to the old 
SourceForge ones and use them as a middle-man for list archives ;-)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Re: [Tuxtype-dev] Dumping SourceForge?

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

No one answered this yet, so I am taking that as meaning that no one objects 
to my plan ;-)

I will go ahead and proceed with it then, keeping TuxMath, TuxTyping & 
TuxReader on their SourceForge or Savanah sites, but moving their mailing 
lists elsewhere. When this happens, we will make an announcement, and if you 
want either us to move you over to the new list, or you would like to move 
yourself, feel free to let me know.

I dont have an ETA on this move, BTW, but I would wager it would be within a 
week or two.

On Thursday 11 October 2001  3:02, Samuel Hart wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> It looks like we may be able to get some supplimental or even replacement
> project hosting outside of SourceForge, so I was wondering what everyone's
> opinion on the matter was?
>
> Here's the deal, SourceForge has hosted TuxType for almost a year now (over
> a year?) and it has hosted TuxMath since its start. SourceForge is a great
> service to the community, and I don't want to disparage (sp?) it at all.
> All of the issues that I have started having personally with it have been
> very recent ones (the mailing list munging issue is one that comes to
> mind...)
>
> However, we could *probably* get SourceForge software installed elsewhere,
> where we would have more of a say in the admin of the system, and move
> parts or all of our projects to them.
>
> So what does everyone think of the subject?
>
> Personally, to give you some idea of my thoughts on it, here's the
> direction I'm leaning:
>
> * Keep the TuxType, TuxMath, and TuxReader projects primarily hosted on
> their relative sites (SourceForge and Savannah), using this secondary
> service as a replacement for the particulars of SourceForge or Savannah we
> dont like (such as moving the mailing lists to the secondary service).
>
> * Place future Tux4Kids projects on these new secondary servers.
>
> * Do most, if not all, sub-project website hosting on these new secondary
> servers. (For example, www.geekcomix.com/dm/tuxmath/ would be moved to
> these new servers, and the core development team would have access to the
> servers for website updating [meaning I could finally start delegating the
> web and PR stuff to other people])
>
> Comments? Suggestions?
>
> BTW, it's likely we're going to be seeing some growing pains as an
> organization over the next few months, so I hope you all can be patient as
> we wrangle with new issues and possibilities ;-)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Re: [Tuxtype-dev] Mac downloads

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Thursday 11 October 2001  4:45, Calvin Arndt wrote:
> When will then Mac binary's be available on the geekcomix site?
>
> Netscape refused to download it from Jesse's yahoo page...

Soon.... I've been very busy this week and haven't had time to deal with this 
yet.

(What I need to do is come up with a way I can delegate these t'ings ;-)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Tux4Kids.org now up

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

Very quick FYI for everyone....

www.tux4kids.org is now up! ;-)

In spite of delays and mucho problems, the site is up. Please be warned that 
not everything has completely been split from the old site. Also please note, 
we will continue to supply the original geekcomix.com URLs for the Tux4Kids 
related items (to give people a chance to update their links ;-)

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] mac port released...

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 02:11:50AM -0400, Jesse Andrews wrote:
> Get em will they are hot.  hqx available @ sourceforge.net!  go forth and
> distribute.

Excellent, thanks!  Anyone up for a Win32 build? :)
(I could probably cross-compile one, but not until some evening this
weekend)

Also, I don't really know what Macs sites we should mention this on
(or if we should at all, at this point).

-bill!

[Tuxmath-devel] mac port released...

[Jesse A. <jd...@cs...>]

Get em will they are hot.  hqx available @ sourceforge.net!  go forth and
distribute.

Jesse

ps. keep me updated about how it works.

[Tuxmath-devel] Re: [Tuxtype-dev] Mac downloads

[Jesse A. <jd...@cs...>]

It tuxtyping should be available now.  I am going to uplaod tuxmath
tonight.  I wanted to fix a few problems I knew about in tuxmath before
loading it...

Jesse


On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Calvin Arndt wrote:

> When will then Mac binary's be available on the geekcomix site?
>
> Netscape refused to download it from Jesse's yahoo page...
>
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[Tuxmath-devel] Mac downloads

[Calvin A. <cal...@ya...>]

When will then Mac binary's be available on the geekcomix site?

Netscape refused to download it from Jesse's yahoo page...


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[Tuxmath-devel] Dumping SourceForge?

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

Hey all,

It looks like we may be able to get some supplimental or even replacement 
project hosting outside of SourceForge, so I was wondering what everyone's 
opinion on the matter was?

Here's the deal, SourceForge has hosted TuxType for almost a year now (over a 
year?) and it has hosted TuxMath since its start. SourceForge is a great 
service to the community, and I don't want to disparage (sp?) it at all. All 
of the issues that I have started having personally with it have been very 
recent ones (the mailing list munging issue is one that comes to mind...)

However, we could *probably* get SourceForge software installed elsewhere, 
where we would have more of a say in the admin of the system, and move parts 
or all of our projects to them.

So what does everyone think of the subject?

Personally, to give you some idea of my thoughts on it, here's the direction 
I'm leaning:

* Keep the TuxType, TuxMath, and TuxReader projects primarily hosted on their 
relative sites (SourceForge and Savannah), using this secondary service as a 
replacement for the particulars of SourceForge or Savannah we dont like (such 
as moving the mailing lists to the secondary service).

* Place future Tux4Kids projects on these new secondary servers.

* Do most, if not all, sub-project website hosting on these new secondary 
servers. (For example, www.geekcomix.com/dm/tuxmath/ would be moved to these 
new servers, and the core development team would have access to the servers 
for website updating [meaning I could finally start delegating the web and PR 
stuff to other people])

Comments? Suggestions?

BTW, it's likely we're going to be seeing some growing pains as an 
organization over the next few months, so I hope you all can be patient as we 
wrangle with new issues and possibilities ;-)

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[Tuxmath-devel] Catching up....

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

for those of you who don't know, I started a new job this week (actually, 
it's not entirely new... I did it before when I was a student, but now it's a 
staff position).... but because of this, I am /way/ behind on my e-mail.

So I am going to be spending today and possibly tomorrow catching up. If 
you've sent me e-mail over the last five days and haven't heard a response, 
that's why...

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Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Children's Software Revue

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Monday 08 October 2001  5:27, William Kendrick wrote:
> I noticed a magazine called "Children's Software Revue" in Borders
> a while back, and bought a copy.
>
> They appear to publish bi-monthly.  Do you think we should make ourselves
> known (either TuxMath or Tux4Kids in general)?  If so, when? :)

I say we wait until we have a few more titles to choose from.

Some things are going to be happenning (thoeretically ;-) over the next few 
months with Tux4Kids, and I would honestly prefer to wait for then.

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[Tuxmath-devel] Children's Software Revue

[William K. <nb...@so...>]

I noticed a magazine called "Children's Software Revue" in Borders
a while back, and bought a copy.

They appear to publish bi-monthly.  Do you think we should make ourselves
known (either TuxMath or Tux4Kids in general)?  If so, when? :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Tuxmath port to Mac...

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Sunday 07 October 2001  3:12, Jesse David Andrews wrote:
> Available at:
>
> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/emjanov
>
> for a limited time (until it is moved to tux4kids site ;)

I'll deal with this (and any other e-mail) later on today (after noon, my 
time). But this sounds fantastic...

So, I take it someone fixed the SDL_mixer issues with Macs? (Or we've just 
eliminiated it as an option for the Mac version ;-)

> Jesse
>
> ps.  TuxType is done, and I can release a hqx file, but I don't have a site
> where I can put 5mb...

Actually, Jesse, I think you have file release management on TuxTyping's 
SOurceForge page. You probably could just mimic what I've done with the other 
releases to place it there.

Or, if you wanted, you could wait and we could coordinate a t8ime that you 
upload this file, and I make the release.

(Actually, I guess it really would behoove us if I were to get some sort of 
different server for our webpage... something that I would be able to get us 
more accounts for for filereleases .... Right now, the server we are using, 
and the one we will be using, does not allow that :-/ )

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[Tuxmath-devel] Tuxmath port to Mac...

[Jesse D. A. <jd...@uk...>]

Available at:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/emjanov

for a limited time (until it is moved to tux4kids site ;)

Jesse

ps.  TuxType is done, and I can release a hqx file, but I don't have a site=
 where I can put 5mb...

[Tuxmath-devel] Looking over tuxmath page..

[Jesse D. A. <jd...@uk...>]

I just realized that tux of math command really reminds me of the old Comma=
nder Keen days.  Or at least the menu ;)

Anywayj, the only issue I have left with finishing the txutype port to mac =
is getting a serial for the installer, so I have been thinking about star=
ting to see how hard the port of tuxmath will be.  I also was wondering i=
f you (Bill) were still interested in some of your other apps being porte=
d?

Jesse

Re: [Tuxmath-devel] Poll and a release?

[Samuel H. <cri...@ge...>]

On Friday 05 October 2001  3:27, William Kendrick wrote:
> I'm really interested in doing one of those "suite" games, where the
> child can play with various aspects of the game (numbers, colors,
> letters, shapes, etc.)

Actually, I have several small games in the queue (meaning, graphics mostly 
done ;-) which could easily be combined into a "suite" game. Let me know if 
interested.

> Hey, is there a general "tux4kids" mailing list? :)

There will be after the domain comes up. The one thing I'm looking to try and 
resolve is what to do with archives.

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