trinux-talk — General discussion including questions and problem resolution

RE: [Trinux-talk] New .iso for PCMCIA

[<pm...@de...>]

Hi All

Can anyone tell me how to create a bootable CD ROM out of the new
0.81pre0-24.5 iso image?
I'm not sure what .img file to use for the CD ROM boot sector. The ISO
doesn't seem to contain one.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Phill

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Franz [mailto:mat...@ya...]
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2001 10:08 a.m.
To: tri...@li...; tri...@li...
Subject: [Trinux-talk] New .iso for PCMCIA


I've released a new 4mb .iso image for testing
(0.81pre0-24.5). The primary purpose is for laptops
since previous versions were missing the
pcmcia-bin.tgz package.

It is available at:

http://www.trinux.org/iso/

or

http://prdownloads.sf.net/trinux/ but this is very
slow and I'm not sure it got uploaded correctly

Post any problems to the list.





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Re: [Trinux-talk] help uptime please.

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

>
> I'm trying to find out which package contains 'uptime' . someone knows?
> help.
>

trinux> cat uptime
2055293.57 2054936.69

But seriously there is a program called si in sysutil.tgz

trinux> si -p -o s
si - Version 0.9 - By Joe Turgeon (jtu...@is...)
si:  Checking Command-Line
si - Version 0.9 - By Joe Turgeon (jtu...@is...)
si:  Using Linux Kernel 2.2 Code
si:  Loading Information
si:  Dumping Information


si - Program Information:
  si - Version 0.9 - By Joe Turgeon (jtu...@is...)

System Information:
  CPU Information:
        Number of CPUs: 1
        Processor #0 Information:
                Vendor: GenuineIntel
                Model:  Pentium 75 - 200
                Speed:  90.003 MHz
                Cache:  unknown
                CPU Usage By Priority Modes:
                        User Mode:          200 Seconds (  0:03:20)
                        Nice Mode:            0 Seconds (  0:00:00)
                        System Mode:        649 Seconds (  0:10:49)
                        Idle Mode:      2054666 Seconds (570:44:26)
        Total CPU Usage By Priority Modes:
                User Mode:          200 Seconds (  0:03:20)
                Nice Mode:            0 Seconds (  0:00:00)
                System Mode:        649 Seconds (  0:10:49)
                Idle Mode:      2054666 Seconds (570:44:26)
  Load Averages (previous one, five, and fifteen minutes):
        One: 0.09       Five: 0.04      Fifteen: 0.01
  Boot Time:
        Sun Nov  4 16:48:10 2001
  Uptime:
        23 Days  18 Hours  58 Minutes  36 Seconds (2055516.90 Seconds)
  Number of Context Switches System Underwent:
        5904130

si:  Clean Exit

or

trinux> procinfo
Linux 2.4.5 (root@mfranz-lt) (gcc 2.95 19990728 ) #41 1CPU

Memory:      Total        Used        Free      Shared     Buffers
Cached
Mem:         14320       12840        1480           0        4404
5292
Swap:        32760        1496       31264

Bootup: Sun Nov  4 16:48:10 2001    Load average: 0.03 0.03 0.00 2/20 1277

user  :       0:03:20.43   0.0%  page in :     6194
nice  :       0:00:00.00   0.0%  page out:    90982
system:       0:10:50.00   0.0%  swap in :      159
idle  :  23d 18:45:25.55 100.0%  swap out:      196
uptime:  23d 18:59:35.97         context :  5904484

irq  0: 205557598 timer                 irq  9:    320647 eth1
irq  1:       534 keyboard              irq 11:   3227257 eth0
irq  2:         0 cascade [4]           irq 14:    180457 ide0
irq  6:        94

Re: [Trinux-talk] Setup a ppp client for Trinux ?

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> Please, could you explain me how i can setup a ppp (with RTC modem)
> connection whith Trinux ?

This is going to be fairly painful... :(

First of all what is RTC modem??? If you have a Winmodem it probably won't
even work.

First you will need to make sure your modem is detected. You will need the
serial-net.tgz kernel package which has the ppp kernel modules and serial
modules as well. You will need to use kernel 2.4.5 and copy the package to
your boot floppy.

trinux> lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
bsd_comp                4360   0 (unused)
ppp_async               6700   0 (unused)
ppp_generic            15432   0 [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc                    5180   0 [ppp_generic]
serial                 54928   0 (unused)
isa-pnp                31568   0 [serial]
ide-disk                7052   2
ide-probe-mod           9256   0
ide-mod

If you don't see this then try /etc/init.m/ppp

and try again

doing

#dmesg

isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial driver version 5.05a (2001-03-20) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ
SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.1
PPP BSD Compression module registered

should show this as well


>
> I get the "ppp" package but it seem to be a ppp server not a client ???
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>

Actually they are the same thing :)  Read

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/

and write back to the list after you get the kernel modules installed

-mdf

[Trinux-talk] help uptime please.

[Valerio B. <va...@se...>]

I'm trying to find out which package contains 'uptime' . someone knows?
help.

val

[Trinux-talk] Setup a ppp client for Trinux ?

[Xavier COLLET-M. <xc...@ov...>]

 Hi,

Please, could you explain me how i can setup a ppp (with RTC modem) 
connection whith Trinux ?

I get the "ppp" package but it seem to be a ppp server not a client ???

Thanks in advance for your help.


Xavier
xc...@ov...

Re: [Trinux-talk] nfsd & file size limit

[Cagatay K. <ca...@ae...>]

I couldn't define my poblem about file size limit well. I couldn't
generate a file greater than 2GB at the nfs. So I think trinux
nfs-client.gz uses NFSv2 which has this file size limit. I think I must
upgrade to NFSv3.
The other thing is ntfstools does not work. We could not make ntfs on
device. Are there neccessary packages
that i have to install. (i include ntfs.o)



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On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Matthew Franz wrote:

> Regarding to 2GB file limit, you can use reiserfs. The
> kernel module is fsmods.tgz and the binaries for
> creating the filesystem are in reiserfs.tgz.
> 
> No, there is not currently an nfs-server package. I
> can definitely look into that. 
> 
> Building a package is easy and takes no time at all.
> Based on past experience with some of the samba
> modules it probably would take a couple of times to
> get it right with your help.
> 
> -mdf
> 
> --- Cagatay Koksoy <ca...@ae...> wrote:
> > 
> > First,
> > I wonder is it possible to start a nfs server on the
> > machine whis uses
> > trinux as an OS.(I am using kernel 2.4.5 and load
> > the module nfsd -or
> > atleast tried-. but i could not find nfs-server pkg.
> >  )
> > 
> > Second,
> > I also encounter with the problem file size
> > limit,(2GB) what can i do in
> > order to over come this?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > 
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[Trinux-talk] RE:Kernel for Adaptec

[Richard T. <ri...@th...>]

Hello All,

I need some clarification. Matt built a kernel with Adaptec SCSI =
support. Do I need to put the bzImage file on the CD that I want to boot =
from? I put it on a floppy and tried to boot from it with the current CD =
in the drive, but that did not work as planned. What I am trying to do =
is gain read-only access to the NTFS partition. The CD drive is on an =
Adaptec AIC-7860 controller. The NTFS partition is on a Dell PowerEdge =
Expandable RAID 2 controller. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Rich Thomas

Re: [Trinux-talk] nfsd & file size limit

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

Regarding to 2GB file limit, you can use reiserfs. The
kernel module is fsmods.tgz and the binaries for
creating the filesystem are in reiserfs.tgz.

No, there is not currently an nfs-server package. I
can definitely look into that. 

Building a package is easy and takes no time at all.
Based on past experience with some of the samba
modules it probably would take a couple of times to
get it right with your help.

-mdf

--- Cagatay Koksoy <ca...@ae...> wrote:
> 
> First,
> I wonder is it possible to start a nfs server on the
> machine whis uses
> trinux as an OS.(I am using kernel 2.4.5 and load
> the module nfsd -or
> atleast tried-. but i could not find nfs-server pkg.
>  )
> 
> Second,
> I also encounter with the problem file size
> limit,(2GB) what can i do in
> order to over come this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Cagatay Koksoy
>
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[Trinux-talk] nfsd & file size limit

[Cagatay K. <ca...@ae...>]

First,
I wonder is it possible to start a nfs server on the machine whis uses
trinux as an OS.(I am using kernel 2.4.5 and load the module nfsd -or
atleast tried-. but i could not find nfs-server pkg.  )

Second,
I also encounter with the problem file size limit,(2GB) what can i do in
order to over come this?

Thanks in advance.


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[Trinux-talk] gpm error

[windham l. <mst...@ho...>]

       Sorry if this was in the talk archives but I was not able to
search through them for some reason besides manually... but i loaded
the gpm package and gpmlibs pkg and when i went to run it it said
          gpm: oops() invoked from gpm.c(958)
          /dev/mouse: no such file or dir

i think this means that i need a mouse.o module???
any help would be appriciated... thnx Mstrhelix

oh yeah and i would like to use a filesystem encryption pkgs as well
please if you have time ...


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Re: [Trinux-talk] Trinux and Rebol?

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Try

#getpkg rebol

I built this a long time ago and did some limited testing. Let me know if
you have any luck/problems.

-mdf


> Could someone please tell me if Rebol has been successfully loaded in the Trinux envrionment.
>
> Thanks.
> John.
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[Trinux-talk] Trinux and Rebol?

[<jin...@ho...>]

Could someone please tell me if Rebol has been successfully loaded in the Trinux envrionment.

Thanks.
John.

Re: [Trinux-talk] Trinux(131.251.92.172):mounting

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> You will also need the full (i.e. non-busybox) version of mount
>
> so that
>
> # mount -V
> mount: mount-2.11g
>
> and not an error message
>

Sorry, forgot this. The full version of mount is in the netutil.tgz
package.

-mdf

Re: [Trinux-talk] (no subject)

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

You can review the trinux-talk archives to see how to build/rebuild the
initrd (see the link off the main trinux.sf.net page) and/or see the mkrd
script at http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/trinux/devtools/

Most everything is in linuxrc or scripts in /sbin/

Add to/modify stuff in \tux\init on the boot floppy to add your own
commands to exectued.

File encryption? Symmetric/Assymetric? There is a GnuPG package in
http://trinux.sf.net/pkg/ that could be used. I could probably drum up an
AES package as well.

Or filesystem encryption?? That would be interesting. Running the OS of
non-encrypting ramdisk filesystems but accessing data from fixed persisent
encrypted filesytems. Hmmm... I will look into that.

- mdf

Re: [Trinux-talk] Trinux(131.251.92.172):mounting

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

>
> It does not work and I get
>
> >ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
>
> I have tried to mount some other loop devices in the same way but it never
> works anyway.

Have you insmod'd the loop.o kernel module, available in the fsmods.tgz
package (also in http://trinux.sf.net/kernel/2.4.5/modules/

You will also need the full (i.e. non-busybox) version of mount

so that

# mount -V
mount: mount-2.11g

and not an error message

>
> Another problem. I run ircii, irc client; I found a binary on the net, and it
> works just fine with Trinux. But I get banned of most channels as
> soon as I come in because I am root. I have tried to add a user in /etc/passwd,
> and to export USER=anyuser... in vain. How do I create a user and login.
> Even a rustic, script based way would be nice.

This is a busybox shell issue. I'll look into a workaround, although since
I don't do IRC you might have to help test it. I would much rather
hardcode a non-root userid into ircii than add multi-users (there are some
weird libc/busybox issues which prevent passwd and login from working.

> complete linux distro with all the funniest tools. I have began to configure

"funny" tools were never a requirement, but they are now :)

> a firewall (as my default policy is DROP for the three built-in chains, some
> packets are sometimes dropped when they should not... but it is an excellent
> way to force you to read some RFC and learn a lot).
> And the "savehome"/"gethome" feature is very nice too. I have opened a shell
> account and I can store there a few scripts and data.

Good to see it works, because some folks have run into some problems.

- mdf

[Trinux-talk] Trinux(131.251.92.172):mounting

[<tm...@ly...>]

Hello there.

I am trying to mount the Trinux initrd, after decompressing it and insmoding
the loop.o module, using the "-o loop" parameter.

It does not work and I get

>ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument

I have tried to mount some other loop devices in the same way but it never 
works anyway.

I use trinux in RAM (with tmpfs). Is it a limitation of the tmpfs filesystem?
If it is the case, can I find a workaround to that?

Another problem. I run ircii, irc client; I found a binary on the net, and it 
works just fine with Trinux. But I get banned of most channels as
soon as I come in because I am root. I have tried to add a user in /etc/passwd,
and to export USER=anyuser... in vain. How do I create a user and login.
Even a rustic, script based way would be nice.

Apart from that, trinux is great. You don't need disk space, and you have a 
complete linux distro with all the funniest tools. I have began to configure
a firewall (as my default policy is DROP for the three built-in chains, some 
packets are sometimes dropped when they should not... but it is an excellent 
way to force you to read some RFC and learn a lot). 
And the "savehome"/"gethome" feature is very nice too. I have opened a shell 
account and I can store there a few scripts and data.

Thank you for trinux and any hints are welcome for that loop device problem and
a minimal multiuser support.

The net is my hard disk - Herme

[Trinux-talk] (no subject)

[windham l. <mst...@ho...>]

       How could I find out how to customize Trinux... or what goes on
during the boot and other processes while the system is running? I was
also wondering about file encryption as well...
                    thanks, mstrhelix

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Re: [Trinux-talk] Kernel for Adaptec

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

See
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/2.4.5/adaptec/

The kernel contains support for all Adaptec SCSI
adapters.

There is also a config in the directory as well.



--- Mark Halter <mar...@gm...> wrote:
> Don't think so. The nic is a via-rhine,
> so there is a
> a driver. I use it and it works fine.
> 
> 
> Where can I download the the kernel /
> boot image?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Mark
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Franz"
> <mat...@ya...>
> To: "Mark Halter" <mar...@gm...>;
> <tri...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:01
> AM
> Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Bootimage for
> 78xx
> 
> 
> > I'll build a Adaptec-78xx kernel
> tomorrow? Is there
> > anything else unique about your
> hardware sitution.
> > What NIC support do you need?
> >
> > -mdf
> > --- Mark Halter <mar...@gm...>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to use a CD-ROM on an
> AIC-78xx as
> > > boot source. But I don't
> > > find out how to use it. When I try
> to
> > > put the 78xx driver on the
> > > boot flopy there is not enough pace
> to
> > > save it.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
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[Trinux-talk] re: trinux (a very quick question)

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

I wouldn't use the packages from ibiblio. See
http://trinux.sf.net/mirrors.html for good sites.

The boot disk you use rawrite or windows rawrite to transfer the 1.4mb
image to the floppy directly (do not copy via windows, it wont fit)

For the packages, if you have network access, the easiest is to do network
package loading, but you can download the packages you want onto
additional floppies.


>
> Salutations.
>   So, I grabbed some trinux packages from iblio. How to put them onto the
> floppy? 1) unzip and use a window$ machine to write the files to the floppy?
> rawrite the zip images directly to a floppy? 3) something else? My thanks in
> advance for listening to dumb questions. --Arctor.
>

Re: [Trinux-talk] Bootimage for 78xx

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

I'll build a Adaptec-78xx kernel tomorrow? Is there
anything else unique about your hardware sitution.
What NIC support do you need?

-mdf
--- Mark Halter <mar...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to use a CD-ROM on an AIC-78xx as
> boot source. But I don't
> find out how to use it. When I try to
> put the 78xx driver on the
> boot flopy there is not enough pace to
> save it.
> 
> Can anyone help me?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mark
> 
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[Trinux-talk] Bootimage for 78xx

[Mark H. <mar...@gm...>]

Hi,

I want to use a CD-ROM on an AIC-78xx as
boot source. But I don't
find out how to use it. When I try to
put the 78xx driver on the
boot flopy there is not enough pace to
save it.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks

Mark

Re: [Trinux-talk] Sources

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> 1) All of the original code I've seen evidence of in Trinux are in shell
> scripts, so in a way you already have the source but just don't know it.

Yes.

>
> 2) Much of this is actually stored in a compressed minux file system on
> the boot disk -- initrd.gz.  You can poke around this / modify it by
> using the loop back device.  Let me know if you don't know how to do
> this and I'll find the applicable HOWTO for you.  I think Matt also has
> a copy of this in a variety of formats under the "bleeding edge" link on
> the site.

Yes, see http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/initrd/ for the latest builds.
Actually, they are reasonably stable.

> 3) The kernel is straight from Linus' Linux sources.

Yes

> 4) The config files for the kernel can be found the web site, at
> http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/2.4.13/.  Note that this is for
> 2.4.13, and 2.4.5 is the kernel that the current boot disks use.
> I don't think it makes too much difference, though... I wanted to use
> the modified Mandrake stock kernel 2.4.8 (it has XFS and other goodies)
> and with a little hacking I got it to compile and it works great.

Right

> 5) The packages are mostly binaries, but in most cases you can get the
> sources directly from the maintainer of the original software.

Most of the links to the originals are at http://trinux.sf.net/tools.html

> 6) There's an ISO script in the download section on sourceforge which
> automates creating a CD ROM.
>
> So, if you are interested in making your new system from scratch, I think
> you've got a great example here.  The only things I can see that might
> be missing are:
>
> 1) Any scripts Matt may have done to automate the packaging process.

see http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/trinux/devtools/ for mkpkg (package)
building) and mkrd (initrd)

> 2) Any patches that may have been needed to packages

Most of the stuff compiled pretty cleanly.

> 3) I don't know what was involved in some of the base packages like the
> libraries, etc.

Everything was compiled on Slackware 7.1 (glibc2.1.3) If the libraries
were part of the install I used them. However, other stuff like libpcap,
libnet, openssl, and who knows what else I compiled myself.

-mdf

Re: [Trinux-talk] (no subject)

[John C. <ja...@fi...>]

One more thing... if you are interested in building your own distro,
check out the Linux From Scratch guide at LDP:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/lfs/LFS/index.html

John




On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:27:44PM +0000, AxE Online wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering, where the source to trinux would be? I want to try to 
> eventualy make my own OS (or at leaste my own linux distro.). So I'm getting 
> 
> as much source for example as I can, but I cant find the trinux source code. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Trinux-talk] iso bootable cd

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Try the latest .iso on sourceforge (81pre0). It fixed the pcmcia stuff in
earlier .iso. Is that the one you used?

-mdf

>
>     I have burned the iso image to cd, not the pcmia one but the earlier
> version and cannot get it to boot... what am I doing wrong... or what
> else can i do ...
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[Trinux-talk] iso bootable cd

[windham l. <mst...@ho...>]

    I have burned the iso image to cd, not the pcmia one but the earlier
version and cannot get it to boot... what am I doing wrong... or what
else can i do ...

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