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From: Joerg O. <ov...@de...> - 2002-06-24 10:04:22
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Well, you might want to check your 3com nic if it's a combo card. Even some of the later pci ones had to be configured sometimes via a program (3cxxxcfg.exe) to use the right port/irq/address. You'll need a DOS bootdisk or Windows/xx for this. Else: Try something like ping 127.0.0.1, ping (hosts own ip) to check if the tcp/ip stack is healthy so far. Look at routing tables, different netmasks, compare ifconfig output. Get a friend with a networked and working third machine to find out which machine fails. hth, jo +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | __ __ __ __ _ _ It ain't over 'till it's Joerg Over... | | / _ \ V / -_) '_/ | | \___/\_/\___|_| | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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From: Valerio B. <su...@se...> - 2002-06-24 06:52:44
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> > Try to ping your loopback address (127.0.0.1), if it responds then your > local NIC setup should be ok. > We already posted URLs to web pages describing how to make cross-over > cables, check them, if you are not using a hub or a switch, you need a > cross-over cable. > Oops, error, you should ping your local NIC address, if it responds then your local NIC setup should be ok. |
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From: Valerio B. <su...@se...> - 2002-06-24 06:21:07
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> ok i do have my NICS connected via a cat5 cable and i've got no wierdness in > the ifconfig or dmesg commands... i've got redhat /etc/hosts file > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 10.10.10.10 redhat > 10.10.10.1 trinux > > then i've got trinux ignoring dhcp and manually put in > ip: 10.10.10.1 > netmask: 255.0.0.0 > > i'm using a realtek NIC for trinux and a 3com PCI NIC for the redhat > and i'm still getting the same error? i'm not connecting to anything else no > routers , hubs , etc... just one computer to another and when i ping either > of the ip's i get > DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE???? Try to ping your loopback address (127.0.0.1), if it responds then your local NIC setup should be ok. We already posted URLs to web pages describing how to make cross-over cables, check them, if you are not using a hub or a switch, you need a cross-over cable. |
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From: T B. <tb...@ti...> - 2002-06-24 06:04:56
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Now that you mention it... I too have had situations where the cards had link lites, but no talk... But I never had a card that talked with a link lite that was dark... I once found that due to cable length/quality issues, one nic card was trying to do 100 mbps and the other 10mbps. Link lites were on, but nobody home... On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Arron Cusimano wrote: > T Burt wrote: > > > Ethernet devices transmit a heartbeat. When the device is receiving the > > heartbeat, then it lights the Link lite. This is your indicator that the > > two nics are wired together properly. > > Heh I had data cabling contractor wire up a building for me, they used > an electroic tester to check thier work, it was fine. i pluggged in, > link light came up, but could i ping? no. needless to say i got someone > else in to do the job. > > a warning, just because the link lights on dont mean data can flow... > > -- -------------------- Timothy Burt Internet Specialist |
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From: Arron C. <ar...@hg...> - 2002-06-24 05:52:05
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T Burt wrote: > Ethernet devices transmit a heartbeat. When the device is receiving the > heartbeat, then it lights the Link lite. This is your indicator that the > two nics are wired together properly. Heh I had data cabling contractor wire up a building for me, they used an electroic tester to check thier work, it was fine. i pluggged in, link light came up, but could i ping? no. needless to say i got someone else in to do the job. a warning, just because the link lights on dont mean data can flow... -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg |
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From: T B. <tb...@ti...> - 2002-06-24 05:35:15
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, windham lance wrote: > ok i do have my NICS connected via a cat5 cable and i've got no wierdne= ss in=20 If this is true, then this is your problem. You must use a CrossOver cable if you are just connecting two nics, not a= =20 regular cat5 cable... Or put a hub between them... Then you need two cables.. :-) ------------------ Ethernet devices transmit a heartbeat. When the device is receiving the=20 heartbeat, then it lights the Link lite. This is your indicator that the= =20 two nics are wired together properly. Both the 3com and the realtek have link lights (and an activity light=20 too). Look to see if the link lights are lit, one on each card. If only one is= =20 lit, then you have a bad cable (or card). Both link lights lit, then ping your own IP. (Sometimes this will make=20 the activity lite flash on your card) Does it flash? Then ping the other IP. This should make the activity flash on your own=20 nic as it tries to ping the other card. No flash? Then you got config=20 problems on the sending side. Flash on both cards, but still errors, you= =20 may have some ipchains or iptables prohibiting the traffic. =20 > the ifconfig or dmesg commands... i've got redhat /etc/hosts file > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 10.10.10.10 redhat > 10.10.10.1 trinux >=20 > then i've got trinux ignoring dhcp and manually put in > ip: 10.10.10.1 > netmask: 255.0.0.0 >=20 > i'm using a realtek NIC for trinux and a 3com PCI NIC for the redhat > and i'm still getting the same error? i'm not connecting to anything el= se no=20 > routers , hubs , etc... just one computer to another and when i ping ei= ther=20 > of the ip's i get > DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE???? >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.=20 > http://www.hotmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: > ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk >=20 --=20 -------------------- Timothy Burt Internet Specialist |
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-06-24 03:28:23
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ok i do have my NICS connected via a cat5 cable and i've got no wierdness in the ifconfig or dmesg commands... i've got redhat /etc/hosts file 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.10.10.10 redhat 10.10.10.1 trinux then i've got trinux ignoring dhcp and manually put in ip: 10.10.10.1 netmask: 255.0.0.0 i'm using a realtek NIC for trinux and a 3com PCI NIC for the redhat and i'm still getting the same error? i'm not connecting to anything else no routers , hubs , etc... just one computer to another and when i ping either of the ip's i get DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE???? _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-06-23 23:29:05
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> > First rule out a hardware (physical layer) problem. > > Are these computers directly connected with a single > > cable? If so then it must be a "cross cable". You > > can pick up a cat 5 cross cable at most local computer > > shops. If you are unsure if you are using a cross > > cable, look at this site to be sure. It also shows how > > to make one! Well other tricks (for "Acts of God" situations) when you are sure the logical/physical connections are right, look at dmesg for weird errors or ifconfig statistics. Spent a couple of hours on Friday troubleshooting with a stupid connectivity problem. Turned out the FastHub 100 (Cisco) was causing kernel watchdogs on eepro NiCs but 8139s and 3Coms worked fine. Weird. - mdf |
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From: Valerio B. <su...@se...> - 2002-06-23 21:33:55
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> First rule out a hardware (physical layer) problem. > Are these computers directly connected with a single > cable? If so then it must be a "cross cable". You > can pick up a cat 5 cross cable at most local computer > shops. If you are unsure if you are using a cross > cable, look at this site to be sure. It also shows how > to make one! > http://www.atcomservices.com/highlights/makepatch.htm > You can also check the following links for information on how to make crossover cables: http://www.makeitsimple.com/how-to/dyi_crossover.htm http://www.conexus.com.au/support/general/x-over/crossover-cable.html http://www.cabletron.com/support/techtips/tk0231-9.html http://gccprinters.com/support/doc/crossover.html Cheers, val |
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From: Valerio B. <su...@se...> - 2002-06-23 21:33:54
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> The RFC 1918 file might be of some use to you if you are having trouble with IP address allocation on your LAN. > > The url to this document is: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1918.html > There is also another link to the RFCs: http://www.es.net/hypertext/rfcs.html val |
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From: Kyle B <lin...@ya...> - 2002-06-23 19:13:20
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First rule out a hardware (physical layer) problem. Are these computers directly connected with a single cable? If so then it must be a "cross cable". You can pick up a cat 5 cross cable at most local computer shops. If you are unsure if you are using a cross cable, look at this site to be sure. It also shows how to make one! http://www.atcomservices.com/highlights/makepatch.htm If you are plugged into a hub or switch regular cables will do. Check if you have "link lights" at all points (nics, hubs, etc.). Now to software. You didn't post your subnet mask, so try the following suggestion: RedHat: IP: 10.10.10.100 SUBNET: 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY: (Ip addr of your router, only necessary if you want to access other networks ie. the internet) DNS: (Ip addr of your DNS server, only necessary if you want to resolve names on the internet) Trinux: IP: 10.10.10.101 SUBNET: 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY: (Ip addr of your router, only necessary if you want to access other networks ie. the internet) DNS: (Ip addr of your DNS server, only necessary if you want to resolve names on the internet) For more networking information check out: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html Good luck, Trinux is great. Thanks Matt and all who have contributed. Kyle B --- windham lance <mst...@ho...> wrote: > I seem to be having some difficulty getting my home > network up ... > I wanted to network 2 pc's ... trinux and redhat 7.1 > linux... > i get both of my NICS to recognize and put on > 10.10.10.0 addy > and one 10.10.10.10 along with the gateway 255.0.0.0 > and when i try to ping > one from the other i get nothing but host > unreachable??? > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: > ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com |
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From: Peter L. <pla...@fi...> - 2002-06-23 18:55:09
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The RFC 1918 file might be of some use to you if you are having trouble with IP address allocation on your LAN. The url to this document is: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1918.html Sorry if this does'nt help or it's not relevent to your problem. Reguards, Pete --- "windham lance" <mst...@ho...> wrote: >I seem to be having some difficulty getting my home network up ... >I wanted to network 2 pc's ... trinux and redhat 7.1 linux... >i get both of my NICS to recognize and put on 10.10.10.0 addy >and one 10.10.10.10 along with the gateway 255.0.0.0 and when i try to ping >one from the other i get nothing but host unreachable??? > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Sponsored by: >ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Trinux-talk mailing list >Tri...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk _____________________________________________________________ Want a new web-based email account ? ---> http://www.firstlinux.net _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with em...@yo... by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag |
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From: T B. <tb...@ti...> - 2002-06-23 18:32:55
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10.10.10.0 is a network address, not a host address. 10.10.10.0 and 10.10.10.255 are not valid host addresses. Anything in between is OK. 255.0.0.0 is a subnet mask, not a gateway. Unless you are connecting to the internet, you do not need a gateway address. 255.0.0.0 is the correct mask for the 10.0.0.0 class A. On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, windham lance wrote: > I seem to be having some difficulty getting my home network up ... > I wanted to network 2 pc's ... trinux and redhat 7.1 linux... > i get both of my NICS to recognize and put on 10.10.10.0 addy > and one 10.10.10.10 along with the gateway 255.0.0.0 and when i try to ping > one from the other i get nothing but host unreachable??? > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: > ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Trinux-talk mailing list > Tri...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/trinux-talk > -- -------------------- Timothy Burt Internet Specialist |
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From: windham l. <mst...@ho...> - 2002-06-23 17:47:54
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I seem to be having some difficulty getting my home network up ... I wanted to network 2 pc's ... trinux and redhat 7.1 linux... i get both of my NICS to recognize and put on 10.10.10.0 addy and one 10.10.10.10 along with the gateway 255.0.0.0 and when i try to ping one from the other i get nothing but host unreachable??? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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From: Mike B. <Mik...@rm...> - 2002-06-21 14:07:42
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Read the Overview. Sorry for wasting post space. Mike |
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From: Mike B. <Mik...@rm...> - 2002-06-21 14:05:06
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Is Trinux like White_Glove? Can I use it to get on to systems to replace corrupted files and that sort of thing? Thanks. Mike |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-06-21 05:19:50
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:26:04PM -0700, Benjamin Christenson wrote: > What is keeping Trinux away from these host type capabilities? I have played around with a couple versions of LRP and have found Trinux to be easier to configure and documented more throughally... Is there a reason that firewall software (or anything else) would work better on LEAF then on Trinux? > Nothing, although some folks would disagree with you about the ease of use and documentation stuff (including me, maybe). When my DSL provider went belly up a year ago I used it as a PPP masquerade box and I also used to as a regulary Eth-Eth masquerade box as well. - mdf |
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From: Earle L. <ev...@ea...> - 2002-06-20 23:01:58
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Is there an FTP site where I can access the Trinux source? I browsed around ftp.sourceforge.net and just was able to find the basic bootables. I am aware of of the http site: http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/. Any word on when the next CD release of Trinux will be avaibable, one with PCMCIA support? Thanks, -earle. |
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From: Benjamin C. <ben...@ki...> - 2002-06-20 19:18:56
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What is keeping Trinux away from these host type capabilities? I have = played around with a couple versions of LRP and have found Trinux to be = easier to configure and documented more throughally... Is there a reason = that firewall software (or anything else) would work better on LEAF then = on Trinux? Ben |
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From: Aaron S. <ast...@de...> - 2002-06-20 16:39:59
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An update, I loaded cdrom.tgz onto the PCMCIA boot disk, and edited the =
floppy/tux/config/pgklist to include cdrom
This time it looks as though it was going to start, but got stuck on the =
cardmgr portion of the pcmcia startup, well didn't get stuck, but I think =
there may be a typo there
it goes like this
***************
Starting PCMCIA card services
Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.26
kernel build 2.4.5 #2 Sat Jun 16 21:19:32 /etc/localtime 2001
options: [pci] [cardbus]
Intel PCIC probe:
Intel i82365sl B step rev 00 ISA-to-PCMICA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00
host opts [0]: none
host opts [1]: none
ISA irqs (scanned) =3D 3,4,5,7,9,10,12,15 status change on irq 15
Waiting for kernel modules to settle...
Starting cardmgr....
cardmgr[147]: starting, version is 3.1.26
cardmgr[147]: watching 2 sockets
cardmgr[147]: initalizing socket 0
cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean.
cardmgr[147]: socket 0: Ninja ATA
Waiting some more....
cardmgr[147]: module /lib/modules/2.4.5/pcmcia/ide_cs.o not avalable
cardmgr[147]: executing: 'modprobe ide_cs'
cardmgr[147]: modprobe exited with status 2
cardmgr[147]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Resource temporarily =
unavailable
**********************************
I hope this helps someone figure out what I am doing wrong, or what can be =
done to fix this.
Thank you.
/aaron
Doesn't have a CD-ROM. have a Sony PCMCIA CD-ROM, would like to get trinux =
to be able to access that.
seem to have gotten trinux to see the PCMCIA slots, by manually loading =
the PCMCIA stuff, and the chip set.=20
my lsmod is like this
Module
cb_enabler
ds
i82365
pcmcia_core
What else do I need to load to be able to access the CD-ROM?
if I have loaded it all, how do I access it all?
Thank you very much.
/aaron
Aaron Steele
Systems Administrator
ITD - DePaul University
773-325-7344
ast...@de...
Aaron Steele
Systems Administrator
ITD - DePaul University
773-325-7344
ast...@de...
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From: Aaron S. <ast...@de...> - 2002-06-20 15:59:27
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An update, I loaded cdrom.tgz onto the PCMCIA boot disk, and edited the =
floppy/tux/config/pgklist to include cdrom
This time it looks as though it was going to start, but got stuck on the =
cardmgr portion of the pcmcia startup, well didn't get stuck, but I think =
there may be a typo there
it goes like this
***************
Starting PCMCIA card services
Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.26
kernel build 2.4.5 #2 Sat Jun 16 21:19:32 /etc/localtime 2001
options: [pci] [cardbus]
Intel PCIC probe:
Intel i82365sl B step rev 00 ISA-to-PCMICA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00
host opts [0]: none
host opts [1]: none
ISA irqs (scanned) =3D 3,4,5,7,9,10,12,15 status change on irq 15
Waiting for kernel modules to settle...
Starting cardmgr....
cardmgr[147]: starting, version is 3.1.26
cardmgr[147]: watching 2 sockets
cardmgr[147]: initalizing socket 0
cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean.
cardmgr[147]: socket 0: Ninja ATA
Waiting some more....
cardmgr[147]: module /lib/modules/2.4.5/pcmcia/ide_cs.o not avalable
cardmgr[147]: executing: 'modprobe ide_cs'
cardmgr[147]: modprobe exited with status 2
cardmgr[147]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Resource temporarily =
unavailable
**********************************
I hope this helps someone figure out what I am doing wrong, or what can be =
done to fix this.
Thank you.
/aaron
Doesn't have a CD-ROM. have a Sony PCMCIA CD-ROM, would like to get trinux =
to be able to access that.
seem to have gotten trinux to see the PCMCIA slots, by manually loading =
the PCMCIA stuff, and the chip set.=20
my lsmod is like this
Module
cb_enabler
ds
i82365
pcmcia_core
What else do I need to load to be able to access the CD-ROM?
if I have loaded it all, how do I access it all?
Thank you very much.
/aaron
Aaron Steele
Systems Administrator
ITD - DePaul University
773-325-7344
ast...@de...
Aaron Steele
Systems Administrator
ITD - DePaul University
773-325-7344
ast...@de...
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From: Aaron S. <ast...@de...> - 2002-06-20 14:47:49
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Doesn't have a CD-ROM. have a Sony PCMCIA CD-ROM, would like to get trinux = to be able to access that. seem to have gotten trinux to see the PCMCIA slots, by manually loading = the PCMCIA stuff, and the chip set.=20 my lsmod is like this Module cb_enabler ds i82365 pcmcia_core What else do I need to load to be able to access the CD-ROM? if I have loaded it all, how do I access it all? Thank you very much. /aaron Aaron Steele Systems Administrator ITD - DePaul University 773-325-7344 ast...@de... |
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From: Matthew F. <mf...@ci...> - 2002-06-19 18:26:53
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> I am contemplating using busybox 0.60.3 with the 0.80rc2 release. Has > anybody already done this? If I understand the boot process correctly, all > I have to do is replace the busybox in initrd.gz on the boot floppy. Am I > right? Yes, that should work if you build busybox correctly. Although depending on the system you compile it with, busybox might be linked against glibc2.2 which might mess you up. I actaully did start testing it but ran into problems, but this may have been due to the pre2.4.19 changes in ramdisk. Were there some specific features of the latest busybox you needed? - mdf |
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From: Duane <du...@ca...> - 2002-06-19 18:17:06
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I am contemplating using busybox 0.60.3 with the 0.80rc2 release. Has anybody already done this? If I understand the boot process correctly, all I have to do is replace the busybox in initrd.gz on the boot floppy. Am I right? Thanks, Duane. |
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From: <ti...@ti...> - 2002-06-19 15:26:02
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Hi, www.trinux.org is down; I wrote trinux-0.80rc2-ide.img using rawrite on a floppy; I'd like to boot my trinux box inside win2000. Is it possible? How? I am full of ram (256 mb) ;-)) thanx a lot, massimiliano |
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