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[seq24-users] seq24 does not play the sequence

[Juliano F. S. <jul...@gm...>]

Hi, I tried searching for this in the archives and found the same problem
but with no answer, so I'll trying asking on the list.

I have everything configured in Ubuntu Hardy, jack in realtime, alsa,
ardour, hydrogen, zynaddsubfx, etc. I followed this tutorial on seq24:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSeq24Introduction

Everything is connected. I can hear the output in seq24 when i play the
piano on the left. However, i cant manage to play the sequence. Sometimes it
get stuck and wont play, I click the play button and nothing happens, and
other times it plays but i got no sound, I can't hear the sequence. All
other apps run ok, i can play in hydrogen, ardour, zynaddsubfx, vkeybd, but
seq24 does not work. It does not have a lot of configurations so I really
don't know what to do. I'd appreciate some help.

Thanks,

Juliano Schroeder

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Step edit in Seq24

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi All,

 > I noticed (on Debian or Ubuntu based systems at least) that
> vkeybd, the virtual MIDI keyboard, does not show up in seq24's drop-down 
> list of available MIDI connections.

err... that's because the drop-down list only shows available output 
connections, not available input connections. Doh!

Still, if [manual-alsa-ports] is set to 0 in .seq24rc then you can't 
connect vkeybd to the input of seq24 using aconnect or qjackctl, as far 
as I can tell.

Cheers!

Daniel

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Step edit in Seq24

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi All,

 >> notes either have to be drawn with mouse while
>> pattern is not looping or entered via midi controller (keyboard) when
>> the pattern is looping and recording is turned on.

Just a tip - I noticed (on Debian or Ubuntu based systems at least) that 
vkeybd, the virtual MIDI keyboard, does not show up in seq24's drop-down 
list of available MIDI connections. The work-around is to set:

[manual-alsa-ports]
# set to 1 if you want seq24 to create its own alsa ports and
# not connect to other clients
1

in the .seq24rc file, and then make a MIDI connection from vkeybd to 
seq24 using aconnect or the ALSA tab in qjackctl. Then you can input 
notes live into seq24, using a QWERTY keyboard, as long as vkeybd is the 
window in focus. To do this recording and hear the synth at the same 
time, I've got all three bottom-right-corner buttons (Sequence dumps 
data to midi bus, Incoming data passes thru to sequences midi bus and 
channel, and Records incoming midi data) active at once.

Cheers!

Daniel

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Step edit in Seq24

[Ivan H. <ihe...@ki...>]

Hello Jaakko:
No, there is NO step editting. Pressing notes on the keyboard
while stopped  messes up all the inserted notes at the beginning
of the sequence. There is a Blueprint for this
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/seq24/+spec/step-edit
and i have started to make some investigations but now i'm just
full on the "Song Editor" because it worries me more than this
and i see that others have not so much interest on it.
So feel free to start the Step Editting. Ideally it should take the
parameters of grid tick and note tick to know how big the step
and how long the inserted note will be.

Cheers
Ivan

Jaakko Sipari wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've been under the impression that Seq24 doesn't have a step edit
> option, meaning that notes either have to be drawn with mouse while
> pattern is not looping or entered via midi controller (keyboard) when
> the pattern is looping and recording is turned on. I just read Dave
> Phillips' seq24 intro (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8304) and
> it mentions step-editing capabilities. Does anyone know what he refers
> to? Rob?
>
> The step-edit functionality I'm looking for is described in this
> blueprint which is of course not yet implemented:
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/seq24/+spec/step-edit
>
> - Jaakko
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[seq24-users] Step edit in Seq24

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

Hi!

I've been under the impression that Seq24 doesn't have a step edit
option, meaning that notes either have to be drawn with mouse while
pattern is not looping or entered via midi controller (keyboard) when
the pattern is looping and recording is turned on. I just read Dave
Phillips' seq24 intro (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8304) and
it mentions step-editing capabilities. Does anyone know what he refers
to? Rob?

The step-edit functionality I'm looking for is described in this
blueprint which is of course not yet implemented:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/seq24/+spec/step-edit

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi Guido,

>> If I may be permitted a quick straw poll: among seq24 users, who 
>> actually likes the right-click way of adding notes, and who has just got 
>> used to it? :-)
> 
> may be no one? ;-)

I've done some more tests on this with the Indamixx. The note input 
method works perfectly if you use your left hand to tap the screen, 
while holding down the right mouse button with your right thumb. Using 
the mouse wheel and left mouse button to add notes instead (i.e. without 
the touchscreen) is very clunky, but as we have the touchscreen, there's 
no reason to do it that way.

Cheers!

Daniel

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi Guido,

>> If I may be permitted a quick straw poll: among seq24 users, who 
>> actually likes the right-click way of adding notes, and who has just got 
>> used to it? :-)
> 
> may be no one? ;-)

Maybe - I must admit that I find the need to right-click and left-click 
at the same time strange, but perhaps it is similar to some old-school 
sequencer that the original developer used.

I have been using seq24 for the past year in a school music club for 
children aged 5-9 years, and I find that once I explain how to add 
notes, they can do it - but it's not very intuitive for them.

Cheers!

Daniel

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Brian D. <job...@sb...>]

just want to chime in here as a seq24 fan and say bravo! its awesome  
to see this project getting some of the love it deserves.
/brian

On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Guido Scholz wrote:

> Am Mon, 25. Aug 2008 um 18:55:16 +0200 schrieb Guido Scholz:
>
>> thanks to Ivan Hernandez, who has added me to the seq24  
>> development team.
>> I have just applied several patches (more than I have already  
>> listed here)
>> to the trunk repository. Please feel free to test. Comments for the
>> ChangeLog and NEWS files are still missing, please be patient.
>
> Sorry, there are currently some uncertainties about the repository  
> which
> seems not to be publicly available. Hopefully someone of primary
> branchers will help out soon.
>
> Guido
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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Ivan H. <ihe...@ki...>]

Hello Guido:

I have been busy those days. I always used svn on my projects
but when people asked for a place to host the project launchpad.net
was seen as the most convenient. The bzr is not so different, you can
checkout a repository, make changes, and then submit them. To do
this your need to create an RSA key or something like that and
submit your public key to the launchpad.net
I have asked jaako to submit patches to the trunk, if you can try that
it would be perfect to test if you can, so you can merge your patches
there.

Thanks
Ivan


Guido Scholz wrote:
> Am Mon, 25. Aug 2008 um 18:55:16 +0200 schrieb Guido Scholz:
>
>   
>> thanks to Ivan Hernandez, who has added me to the seq24 development team.
>> I have just applied several patches (more than I have already listed here)
>> to the trunk repository. Please feel free to test. Comments for the
>> ChangeLog and NEWS files are still missing, please be patient.
>>     
>
> Sorry, there are currently some uncertainties about the repository which
> seems not to be publicly available. Hopefully someone of primary
> branchers will help out soon.
>
> Guido
>
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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Mon, 25. Aug 2008 um 18:55:16 +0200 schrieb Guido Scholz:

> thanks to Ivan Hernandez, who has added me to the seq24 development team.
> I have just applied several patches (more than I have already listed here)
> to the trunk repository. Please feel free to test. Comments for the
> ChangeLog and NEWS files are still missing, please be patient.

Sorry, there are currently some uncertainties about the repository which
seems not to be publicly available. Hopefully someone of primary
branchers will help out soon.

Guido

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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Sat, 23. Aug 2008 um 21:39:20 +0200 schrieb Guido Scholz:

> Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 23:35:31 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:
 
Jaakko,
 
> > What was the problem with getting seq24
> > to build & run in Fedora 9 by the way?
 
> There were several issues; the most importand were missing header
> declarations (caused by more rigorous checks of gcc 4.3) and some other
> errors caused by a not compatible sigc library (which is not checked by
> configure, by the way).

After spending several hours searching the reasons behind this topic at
least I found, that the old (Version 1.x-style) SigC:: compatibility API
was removed increasing libsigc++ version from 2.0 to 2.2, as mentioned
here in this NEWS file[1]:

  http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/libsigc%2B%2B2/trunk/NEWS?view=markup

As the 2.0 version of libsig++ is already serveral years old and
supplied by all current distributions, there should be no reason to
hesitate applying the switch to the 2.0 API. As meanwhile tested under
my Ubuntu 8.04 there are no glitches.

Guido

[1] Personal remark: This is clearly a hint to carefully maintain files
    like NEWS, ChangeLog etc.

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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 23:35:31 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:

Jaakko,

> > I have once written a patch for the last original seq24 version to get
> > it running on a Fedora 9. I will dig for it, try if it still matches to
> > your version and send it to this list. So this will result in a minimum
> > effort for you.
 
> That would be very nice! This is what the first step in getting seq24
> development back to speed is: submitting the useful patches that have
> been lying around in the web.

thanks to Ivan Hernandez, who has added me to the seq24 development team.
I have just applied several patches (more than I have already listed here)
to the trunk repository. Please feel free to test. Comments for the
ChangeLog and NEWS files are still missing, please be patient.

Definitively missing is a notification service for the devel mailinglist.

Guido

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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 23:35:31 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:

Jaakko,
 
> And about using sourceforge: Is there a need anymore to use
> sourceforge for anything else than this mailing list since we already
> have Launchpad? It offers a hosted version control system (Bazaar) and
> integrated bug tracking & blueprints & "answers" (a miniature question
> forum). I admit most people are new to Bazaar but it seems to do it's
> thing ok and is used by lots of projects hosted by Launchpad.

is there a configuration option to get a notification message sent to
the seq24-devel list, if someone submits changes to the bzr repository?
This is quite common used on sourceforge and would be a very wellcome
feature here.

Guido

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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Guido Scholz
<gui...@ba...> wrote:
> Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 21:21:30 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:
>
> Jaakko,
>
>> <gui...@ba...> wrote:
>
>> > if I compile this version I get a huge bunch of compiler warnings (e.g.
>> > about "warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'"
>> > in *.xpm files).
>
>> Well... getting a warning is not a bug. Especially when the warning is
>> only for using deprecated stuff. Of course it becomes a bug when the
>> deprecated feature actually gets removed from the compiler :)
>
> hm, this answer underestimates the consequences a little bit, because it
> ignores hints to programming errors. But I understand: Nobody cares.

Saying nobody cares is also underestimating the current devs. Most of
us (how many are there actually?) are pretty new to seq24 and fixing
compiler warnings is usually not the first thing you do when start
getting to know a bunch of source code (your view can differ of
course. this is just my opinion). I usually don't allow compiler
warnings in my own code which I've built from the scratch.

>> I agree that the compiler warnings should be kept to a minimum but
>> IMHO the xpm files having deprecated stuff is pretty harmless.
>
> May be, but it swamps the screen and this warnings were only the most
> flooding examples; there are more hidden in-between.
>
> I have once written a patch for the last original seq24 version to get
> it running on a Fedora 9. I will dig for it, try if it still matches to
> your version and send it to this list. So this will result in a minimum
> effort for you.

That would be very nice! This is what the first step in getting seq24
development back to speed is: submitting the useful patches that have
been lying around in the web. What was the problem with getting seq24
to build & run in Fedora 9 by the way?

And about using sourceforge: Is there a need anymore to use
sourceforge for anything else than this mailing list since we already
have Launchpad? It offers a hosted version control system (Bazaar) and
integrated bug tracking & blueprints & "answers" (a miniature question
forum). I admit most people are new to Bazaar but it seems to do it's
thing ok and is used by lots of projects hosted by Launchpad.

You must admit that Launchpad has a nice GUI for all of this stuff :)

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 21:21:30 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:

Jaakko,

> <gui...@ba...> wrote:

> > if I compile this version I get a huge bunch of compiler warnings (e.g.
> > about "warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'"
> > in *.xpm files).
 
> Well... getting a warning is not a bug. Especially when the warning is
> only for using deprecated stuff. Of course it becomes a bug when the
> deprecated feature actually gets removed from the compiler :)

hm, this answer underestimates the consequences a little bit, because it
ignores hints to programming errors. But I understand: Nobody cares.

> I agree that the compiler warnings should be kept to a minimum but
> IMHO the xpm files having deprecated stuff is pretty harmless.

May be, but it swamps the screen and this warnings were only the most
flooding examples; there are more hidden in-between.

I have once written a patch for the last original seq24 version to get
it running on a Fedora 9. I will dig for it, try if it still matches to
your version and send it to this list. So this will result in a minimum
effort for you.

Guido

-- 
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http://www.lug-burghausen.org/

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Guido Scholz
<gui...@ba...> wrote:
> Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 00:21:44 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:
>
> Jaakko,
>
>> You can get the latest source by running this command (also includes
>> all previously committed patches):
>
>> bzr branch lp:~jaakko-sipari/seq24/test1
>
> if I compile this version I get a huge bunch of compiler warnings (e.g.
> about "warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'"
> in *.xpm files).
>
> Does anybody care for this kind of bugs?
>
> Guido

Well... getting a warning is not a bug. Especially when the warning is
only for using deprecated stuff. Of course it becomes a bug when the
deprecated feature actually gets removed from the compiler :)

I agree that the compiler warnings should be kept to a minimum but
IMHO the xpm files having deprecated stuff is pretty harmless.

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 00:21:44 +0300 schrieb Jaakko Sipari:

Jaakko,

> You can get the latest source by running this command (also includes
> all previously committed patches):

> bzr branch lp:~jaakko-sipari/seq24/test1

if I compile this version I get a huge bunch of compiler warnings (e.g.
about "warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'"
in *.xpm files).

Does anybody care for this kind of bugs?

Guido

-- 
http://www.bayernline.de/~gscholz/
http://www.lug-burghausen.org/

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Guido S. <gui...@ba...>]

Am Fri, 22. Aug 2008 um 12:38:23 +0100 schrieb Daniel James:


Hi Daniel,
 
> If I may be permitted a quick straw poll: among seq24 users, who 
> actually likes the right-click way of adding notes, and who has just got 
> used to it? :-)

may be no one? ;-)

Guido

-- 
http://www.bayernline.de/~gscholz/
http://www.lug-burghausen.org/

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Daniel James <da...@64...> wrote:
> Hi Jaakko,
>
>> might I
>> suggest having two ways to enter notes: 1) the original seq24 way 2)
>> the "EnergyXT way".
>
> Actually I think a single left click to add a note, and a single right click
> to remove one, would be even simpler. In touchscreen terms, that's a short
> tap and a long tap, respectively. Or we could do it the same way as the
> Hydrogen drum machine, where a single left click is used for both adding and
> removing notes.

Yes, the simpler, the better. The Hydrogen way is probably not going
to work as it is, since this would prevent selecting a note by just
clicking it. Left click to add or select and right click to remove
would be very nice & simple as long as creating a selection would also
be easy to do using the left mouse button. I assume the right click
would also remove a selected group of notes?

> I think the main issue is the current requirement to hold down the right
> mouse button in order to add a note; this look like it could be the relevant
> code in seqroll.cpp:
>
>        /*     right mouse button      */
>        if ( a_ev->button == 3 ){
>            set_adding( true );
>        }
>

If you plan on statically setting "adding" to true, you should also
check if that affects creating selections.

Hmm.. If I have time to read and write this much e-mails, wouldn't one
also think that I'd also have time to actually code something... :D

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Ivan H. <ihe...@ki...>]

Hello Rob! So many time. 0.9.0 can be a nice number to work.
Have you an account on that launchpad.net thing?
Cheers!
Ivan

Rob Buse wrote:
>> This would probably require a release, which is not an impossible idea
>> though. There are already some bug fixes and small but usable features
>> added which could together make up a new version number (+ 0.0.1 :D).
>>
>>     
>
> Might I suggest that since you guys are starting up development on seq24 
> and the releases would be coming from a different source than myself 
> that you start numbering with 0.9.0 ?
>
> cheers!
> Rob
>
>
>
>
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Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi Jaakko,

> might I
> suggest having two ways to enter notes: 1) the original seq24 way 2)
> the "EnergyXT way".

Actually I think a single left click to add a note, and a single right 
click to remove one, would be even simpler. In touchscreen terms, that's 
a short tap and a long tap, respectively. Or we could do it the same way 
as the Hydrogen drum machine, where a single left click is used for both 
adding and removing notes.

I think the main issue is the current requirement to hold down the right 
mouse button in order to add a note; this look like it could be the 
relevant code in seqroll.cpp:

         /*     right mouse button      */
         if ( a_ev->button == 3 ){
             set_adding( true );
         }

I guess the original idea behind that behaviour is to prevent accidental 
adding of notes.

Cheers!

Daniel

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Rob Buse <rc...@fi...> wrote:
>> This would probably require a release, which is not an impossible idea
>> though. There are already some bug fixes and small but usable features
>> added which could together make up a new version number (+ 0.0.1 :D).
>>
>
> Might I suggest that since you guys are starting up development on seq24
> and the releases would be coming from a different source than myself
> that you start numbering with 0.9.0 ?
>
> cheers!
> Rob

I have absolutely nothing against that. Nice to see you monitoring the
list Rob! :)

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] [Seq24-devel] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

> This would probably require a release, which is not an impossible idea
> though. There are already some bug fixes and small but usable features
> added which could together make up a new version number (+ 0.0.1 :D).
> 

Might I suggest that since you guys are starting up development on seq24 
and the releases would be coming from a different source than myself 
that you start numbering with 0.9.0 ?

cheers!
Rob

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Jaakko S. <jaa...@gm...>]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Daniel James <da...@64...> wrote:
> Hi Jaakko,
>
>> forgot to say that some day I'll probably add a nice
>> configurable mouse mapping to the config file but meanwhile (if you're
>> into it) you can start looking at seqroll.cpp and the
>> "seqroll::on_button_press_event(GdkEventButton* a_ev)" method :)
>
> Thanks for the clue ;-)
>
>> It
>> doesn't look too complicated but the double click behaviour needs some
>> work.
>
> I see what you mean, it's well commented though.
>
> If I may be permitted a quick straw poll: among seq24 users, who actually
> likes the right-click way of adding notes, and who has just got used to it?
> :-)

Since it looks like you might actually do something about it, might I
suggest having two ways to enter notes: 1) the original seq24 way 2)
the "EnergyXT way". The mode could just be switched with a single
option in the configuration file and maybe even (whoo-o!) from the gui
:D This would support the simple usability of seq24. Having too much
configurability as I first described in the blueprint would probably
be too much.

>> Don't forget to mail a patch to the list if you do some cool changes :)
>
> Sure. We'd also like to get the Debian package of seq24 updated some time,
> now that development is active again.

This would probably require a release, which is not an impossible idea
though. There are already some bug fixes and small but usable features
added which could together make up a new version number (+ 0.0.1 :D).

Ivan: What do you think about releasing?

- Jaakko

Re: [seq24-users] Modifying keyboard shortcut for delete button?

[Daniel J. <da...@64...>]

Hi Jaakko,

> forgot to say that some day I'll probably add a nice
> configurable mouse mapping to the config file but meanwhile (if you're
> into it) you can start looking at seqroll.cpp and the
> "seqroll::on_button_press_event(GdkEventButton* a_ev)" method :)

Thanks for the clue ;-)

> It
> doesn't look too complicated but the double click behaviour needs some
> work.

I see what you mean, it's well commented though.

If I may be permitted a quick straw poll: among seq24 users, who 
actually likes the right-click way of adding notes, and who has just got 
used to it? :-)

> Don't forget to mail a patch to the list if you do some cool changes :)

Sure. We'd also like to get the Debian package of seq24 updated some 
time, now that development is active again.

Cheers!

Daniel