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[Scidvspc-users] Crosstable win/loss/draw

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

I've added a Win/Loss/Draw feature to the crosstable (in subversion). It's pretty handy actually :)
At the end of the line for Swiss and All-Play-All crosstables, the win/loss/draw results are shown in brackets.

Someone requested it,  but i can't find where/who, so thanks for the idea.
This code is a little messy, but hopefully there's no bugs.

Steve

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scid sound

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

Hi Pipa,


> I am new at Scid user list and I have two questions.
> 1) How you configure the Scid sounds so each time the computer move a chess piece I hear a move sound.

Sounds are configured in Options->Sounds, (and also Options->Fics->Sounds).

Today i added an option to "Play tick-tock instead of move" to the main
sound widget (in svn). Perhaps this is what you wish ?

The tick-tock sound (until today, only played only in FICS)  is ok, but a little long imho...
Does anyone have a nice (free) short sound to replace this tick-tock with ?


> 2) When I try to load the sound files of the Sound folder, a popup appear  announcing the folder have only 29 sound files of a total of 30 files? What happen withe missing file?

Hmmm - the missing sound is only used by dedicated hardware  such as 
is configured in the Tools->Connect Hardware. But it should be included in the next release.

PS. Sound is partially broke on my 64 bit Fed14 system.
It only plays back every second move. I believe this is a linux/snack/64bit issue,
and have added a note and a workaround to the help file for any others affected.


Steve

[Scidvspc-users] Is "automatic" annotation from command line possible?

[Lior G. <li...@gr...>]

Hello,

Is there a way to automatically analyze (annotate using a chosen engine,
i.e. stockfish) a PGN file using scidvspc from command line (on Linux), I
mean without using the GUI? I noticed a binary named "tcscid" when I
compiled scidvspc.

Thanks for you help,
Lior

[Scidvspc-users] June windows snapshot

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

Thanks for the feedback. Here's a new snapshot.The two files enclosed should
be placed in the "bin" directory of the 4.7.1 windows release.

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows-beta/scidvspc-20120206.zip/download

There's been a few changes to FICS, and a random sort feature.
The gamelist can be scrolled by the page with Control+WheelMouse (untested).


I've also placed the help files online. They still need a few buttons, but are otherwise complete.

  http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Contents.htm


Steve

[Scidvspc-users] Games list

[John <jo...@js...>]

Using your favourite games list ( have 6000+ games of my favourite 
opening), try going through them in some order, I sort mine by length, 
hoping to find opening traps.

It went well (and gave me a few chuckles about how many times black 
resigned on losing Q for bishop on move 8) until I got to page two.

The problem is that the games list repositions itself at the top of the 
list each time one opens a game. It's going to be seriously tedious by 
the time I get to game 300, still only 17 moves.

Ad to that the fact that the list scrolls by one game, not a page, for 
each mouse click on the scroll bar.

Linux, built from SVN yesterday.





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[Scidvspc-users] Line edit box

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

if i type " . ciao" the space first makes non valid the message, it 
would be nice if you erase or remove any space from line edit that is 
before the command.

ciao & ty!

Re: [Scidvspc-users] git

[John <jo...@js...>]

On 01/06/12 18:40, Steven wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I use subversion for scid vs pc. You can check it out with
> *svn co https://scidvspc.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/scidvspc*
> and there-after issue "svn update" from within the scidvspc dir for updates.
> There is also a web interface:
> http://scidvspc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/scidvspc?view=revision
>
> Steve
>

Thanks, it's built and I watched this game with it.


[Event "FICS Game 340 120/0"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.06.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GMKosteniuk"]
[Black "GMDzagnidze"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2457"]
[BlackElo "2547"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 a6 7.O-O Nf6 8.Be3
Bb4 9.Na4 Be7 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.Bb6 Qb8 12.Bf3 d5 13.exd5 cxd5 14.c4 O-O 15.
Be3 a5 16.cxd5 exd5 17.Nb6 Ra6 18.Nxc8 Rxc8 19.Bd4 Bd6 20.g3 Be5 21.Re1
Re6 22.Bxe5 Rxe5 23.Qd4 Re6 24.Rac1 h6 25.Red1 Ree8 26.Qd2 a4 27.Qd4 Qb5
28.Rc3 Rxc3 29.Qxc3 Rb8 30.Qd4 Qxb2 31.Qxa4 Rd8 32.Qb3 Qxb3 33.axb3 Rb8
34.Rd3 Rb4 35.Kf1 d4 36.Ke2 Nd7 37.Bd5 Ne5 38.Rd1 d3+ 39.Kd2 Rb5 40.Bc4
Nxc4+ 41.bxc4 Rb2+ 42.Kxd3 Rxf2 43.c5 Kf8 44.Re1 Ra2 45.c6 Ra6 46.Rc1 Ra8
47.Kd4 Ke7 48.Kc5 Kd8 49.Rd1+ Kc8 50.Rd7 Ra5+ 51.Kb6 Ra2 52.Rxf7 Rb2+ 53.
Kc5 Rxh2 54.Rxg7 h5 55.Kd6 Rd2+ 56.Ke5 Rc2 57.c7 Rc4 58.Kf5 h4 59.g4 Rxc7
60.Rg8+ Kd7 61.Rh8 Rc5+ 62.Kf6 Rc6+ 63.Kf7 Rc3 64.g5 Rf3+ 65.Kg7 h3 66.g6
Ke7 67.Rh4 Rg3 68.Re4+ Kd6 69.Kh7 h2 70.Rh4 Rg2 71.g7 Kd5
     {Whiteclock -25:05 Blackclock 0:05}
1-0

I like the idea of recording the final clock times, but White's is 
obviously wrong.

In the case of FICS relays, you could "watch" the console log to spot 
the time of resignation, or you could sum the times of the moves up 
until the resignation.

The game's worth examining, I found the endgame pretty impressive.




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Re: [Scidvspc-users] git

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

Hi John,

I use subversion for scid vs pc. You can check it out with 

  svn co https://scidvspc.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/scidvspcand there-after issue "svn update" from within the scidvspc dir for updates.
There is also a web interface:

  http://scidvspc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/scidvspc?view=revision

Steve

[Scidvspc-users] git

[John <jo...@js...>]

I tried to download the latest, hopefully development code, using git.

john@Desktop:~/git$ git clone 
git://scidvspc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/scidvspc/scidvspc
Cloning into scidvspc...
warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository.
john@Desktop:~/git$

What's the problem?

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[Scidvspc-users] Autoplay time delay and engine annotation

[Peter H. <de...@me...>]

I think it would be a good idea to separate the autoplay time delay from the engine annotation value for time per move.  When one does engine analysis (annotations) and sets the value for time between moves it requires the user to change the autoplay time delay when replaying games later as they seem to be using the same variable.

Regards,

Peter

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Gaviota Tablebases on Mac

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

> When I setup a simple endgame position (KnbK) and run critter the information for the running engine indicates TB Hits: 0 which tells me that it is not finding or using the tablebases and the analysis just keeps running without finding mate.

Hmmm - I can reproduce this. But do you have the 3 piece gtbs installed ?
Try installing them and see if it makes any diff. They may be needed.

Otherwise, i'm not sure what is happening, and doubt it is a mac only thing.
We had another Critter gtb issue (see below)

S.A.

From: Steven <ste...@ya...>
Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Critter EGTB bug (Problem in UCI options configuration?)
To: "YL" <hpq...@16...>, sci...@li...
Cc: "Scid Users List" <sci...@li...>
Received: Wednesday, 7 March, 2012, 5:46 PM

This is actually a small bug in Critter 1.4 with gaviota tablebases, which affects Scid.
Richard Vida has told me it wil be fixed in the next version, but this line added to 
uci.tcl (or scid.gui) works around the issue.

--- tcl/tools/uci.tcl   (revision 1024)
+++ tcl/tools/uci.tcl   (working copy)
@@ -286,6 +286,7 @@
       }

       set idx [ expr $uciInfo(multipv$n) -1 ]
+      if {$idx < 0} {set idx 0}

       # was if $analyze etc..
       if { $idx < $analysis(multiPVCount$n) } {

Steve

From: YL <hpq...@16...>
Subject:
 [Scidvspc-users] Problem in UCI options configuration?
To: sci...@li...
Received: Wednesday, 7 March, 2012, 3:38 PM

Hi all,
 
How to reproduce the bug:
 
1. get a copy of the Critter 1.4 engine
2. set the engine info (Name, exe path, etc)
3. open the UCI options Dialog
4. set the GaviotaTbPath option to point to the actual gaviota tablebase files
5. set up a board position that can be found in the tablebase (e.g. K+N+B vs K)
6. launch the engine
 
and there comes the following error:
 ===================
list index out of range
list index out of range
    while executing
"lset analysis(multiPV$n) $idx "$uciInfo(depth$n) $uciInfo(tmp_score$n) [list $uciInfo(pv$n)] $uciInfo(scoremate$n)""
    (procedure "::uci::processAnalysisInput" line 224)
    invoked from within
"::uci::processAnalysisInput 7"
===================
 
note that this error doesn't arise when:
  (1) having set a path that doesn't actually contain gaviota tablebase files, or
  (2) the position still has too many pieces and is not to be found in tablebases.
 
I have also tried other GUIs (e.g. ChessPad 2) and they work fine with the same engine, options and tablebases. So this might be a problem within Scid.
 
Sincerely,
YL


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[Scidvspc-users] Gaviota Tablebases on Mac

[Peter H. <de...@me...>]

Okay.  I downloaded all of the Gaviota table bases to my mac and placed them in a /gtb directory under my critter_14 directory.  The critter_14 directory contains the engine.

I have set my GaviotaTbPath to in the critter configuration window to /gtb.  I have set my Tablebase Usage to Everywhere.

When I setup a simple endgame position (KnbK) and run critter the information for the running engine indicates TB Hits: 0 which tells me that it is not finding or using the tablebases and the analysis just keeps running without finding mate.

Does anyone have the same issue or has tried this on a mac?  Would appreciate any help in this regard.

Peter

[Scidvspc-users] May 2012 snapshot

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

There's a new windows snapshot up at SF

http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/tmp/scidvspc-20120506b.tar.bz2

Notable features include - opening files with Drag and
Drop (the drop targets are the gameinfo and switcher 
widgets), Custom board textures (open board options and 
press F1 for help and move the jpegtcl1.0  directory to 
Scid vs PC/lib to get jpeg tiles to work), and  really 
tieing down the new fics stuff.

FICS includes moving the clock to the main board where
it's much more visible, and being able to properly use
the fics examine feature. There's a few new options in Options->FICS

Other changes include: Analysis output can also be 
toggled between wrapping words / no-wrap by right clicking 
the widget, and in tournaments there's a new 
"Permanent thinking (Ponder)" feature, we dont' kill 
tournament if engine crashes, and Xboard engines 
time control should work much better.

Much thanks to Gregor for coding the Drag'n'Drop feature, 
which was a lot of work.

Steve

Re: [Scidvspc-users] import ratings and/or player form ratings.fide.com?

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

I'm thinking you may have to use the resources at Franz's website, http://linweb.ris.at/~nagl/
or ask him how he makes his updates.

Steve

> From: Klaus Mach <kla...@gm...>
>
> is there an easy(?) way to import new ratings and/or new
> player from 
> http://ratings.fide.com/download.phtml to
> the current spellcheck/rating files in 
> scid?

[Scidvspc-users] import ratings and/or player form ratings.fide.com?

[Klaus M. <kla...@gm...>]

Hi,

is there an easy(?) way to import new ratings and/or new player from 
http://ratings.fide.com/download.phtml to the current spellcheck/rating files in 
scid?

Cu,
	Klaus

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Analysis Window

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

>  - The Status Bar of the analysis window seems to be absent

The "i" button shows the info bar

> and the right mouse click doesn't hide the move previsions.
> Is it normal (scidvspc for mac 4.7) ?

On OSX, right and middle buttons are reversed in tk. *&^!*

It's an annoying OSX issue, and I should probably patch the
OSX version specifically to fix this... change

  bind $w.hist.text <ButtonPress-3> "toggleMovesDisplay $n"
to
  ... <ButtonPress-2> 

On OSX, ou can alter the gui file from the command line with
"vi ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid"

>  - Is there a way to display the move previsions in column
> style in the analysis window, especially when using the
> multi-PV mode 

change

  text $w.hist.text -font font_Fixed -height 5 \
    -wrap none -setgrid 1 -yscrollcommand "$w.hist.ybar set" -xscrollcommand "$w.hist.xbar set"
to
  ...  -wrap word 


These options should be added by the next release.

S.

[Scidvspc-users] Analysis Window

[Philippe G. <ph...@ca...>]

Two questions :
 - The Status Bar of the analysis window seems to be absent and the right mouse click doesn't hide the move previsions. Is it normal (scidvspc for mac 4.7) ?
 - Is there a way to display the move previsions in column style in the analysis window, especially when using the multi-PV mode ?

[Scidvspc-users] Minor update for windows (with UCI ponder)

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

I've made an errata update for windows.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.7.1.exe/download

The previous config file had some gremlins, which this fixes.

The download is marked 4.7.1, but otherwise it is still 4.7
- except for the inclusion of the new tournament "Permanent 
Thinking" feature (UCI ponder-on and Xboard easy/hard).

Also, i recently realised that the labeling of the "Time-per-game"
spinboxes was confusing. The Minutes and Seconds entries are in fact
Base Time(Minutes), Increment Time(Seconds).
I hope no-one else was confused, and will make the labels 
better for the next release.

Steve

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Critter EGTB bug (Problem in UCI options configuration?)

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

I had an interesting request in search pattern feature in 
it.hobby.scacchi.it
(italian chess newsgroup).
Is possible to filter games with material for example 6P + 1R vs 6P+1R 
where is possible to select the majority Q or K side for 1 of the colours.
Is possible to select an Eco opening where all games are filtered by 
long or short castle?

ty
enrico ^^ ciao!

[Scidvspc-users] Critter EGTB bug (Problem in UCI options configuration?)

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

This is actually a small bug in Critter 1.4 with gaviota tablebases, which affects Scid.
Richard Vida has told me it wil be fixed in the next version, but this line added to 
uci.tcl (or scid.gui) works around the issue.

--- tcl/tools/uci.tcl   (revision 1024)
+++ tcl/tools/uci.tcl   (working copy)
@@ -286,6 +286,7 @@
       }

       set idx [ expr $uciInfo(multipv$n) -1 ]
+      if {$idx < 0} {set idx 0}

       # was if $analyze etc..
       if { $idx < $analysis(multiPVCount$n) } {

Steve

From: YL <hpq...@16...>
Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Problem in UCI options configuration?
To: sci...@li...
Received: Wednesday, 7 March, 2012, 3:38 PM

Hi all,
 
How to reproduce the bug:
 
1. get a copy of the Critter 1.4 engine
2. set the engine info (Name, exe path, etc)
3. open the UCI options Dialog
4. set the GaviotaTbPath option to point to the actual gaviota tablebase files
5. set up a board position that can be found in the tablebase (e.g. K+N+B vs K)
6. launch the engine
 
and there comes the following error:
 ===================
list index out of range
list index out of range
    while executing
"lset analysis(multiPV$n) $idx "$uciInfo(depth$n) $uciInfo(tmp_score$n) [list $uciInfo(pv$n)] $uciInfo(scoremate$n)""
    (procedure "::uci::processAnalysisInput" line 224)
    invoked from within
"::uci::processAnalysisInput 7"
===================
 
note that this error doesn't arise when:
  (1) having set a path that doesn't actually contain gaviota tablebase files, or
  (2) the position still has too many pieces and is not to be found in tablebases.
 
I have also tried other GUIs (e.g. ChessPad 2) and they work fine with the same engine, options and tablebases. So this might be a problem within Scid.
 
Sincerely,
YL


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[Scidvspc-users] Problem in UCI options configuration?

[YL <hpq...@16...>]

Hi all,
 
How to reproduce the bug:
 
1. get a copy of the Critter 1.4 engine
2. set the engine info (Name, exe path, etc)
3. open the UCI options Dialog
4. set the GaviotaTbPath option to point to the actual gaviota tablebase files
5. set up a board position that can be found in the tablebase (e.g. K+N+B vs K)
6. launch the engine
 
and there comes the following error:
 ===================
list index out of range
list index out of range
    while executing
"lset analysis(multiPV$n) $idx "$uciInfo(depth$n) $uciInfo(tmp_score$n) [list $uciInfo(pv$n)] $uciInfo(scoremate$n)""
    (procedure "::uci::processAnalysisInput" line 224)
    invoked from within
"::uci::processAnalysisInput 7"
===================
 
note that this error doesn't arise when:
  (1) having set a path that doesn't actually contain gaviota tablebase files, or
  (2) the position still has too many pieces and is not to be found in tablebases.
 
I have also tried other GUIs (e.g. ChessPad 2) and they work fine with the same engine, options and tablebases. So this might be a problem within Scid.
 
Sincerely,
YL

[Scidvspc-users] Xboard tournament improvements

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

Does anyone still mess with Xboard engines ?
They're not as strong as the modern UCI engines.

I've made a couple of improvements to the tournament 
feature and some xboard engines should behave much better.
Changes are in subversion.

cheers, Steven

The technical details are -

The Xboard protocol is a little harder to grasp than UCI,
and it turns out i had a serious inaccuracy in the
order of the time and move commands.
I issued move/times, when the expected order is
times/move. (UCI gets around this issue by issuing 
the move/times commands altogether in the one line).

The other interesting bug relates to draw and resign 
declarations. Xboard engines are very *cute*. They can 
resign, and also declare draws for insufficient material, 
etc. (UCI engines generally rely on the GUI to do these 
things). But the problem was they did so immediately after 
making a move.

  Engine: move h6h7
  Engine: 1-0 {Black resigns}

I hadn't examined this closely before, and it screwed up the
control mechanism. (The opposing player is told to make a move,
but since the game becomes finished in the meantime, his move
is never processed, causing a vwait to hang forever).

Anyway - i'm enjoying seeing some of these obscure engines play properly now :)

Scid vs. PC (1 minute + 0 seconds)
?, 2012.03.05
              Score        1    2    3
---------------------------------------
 1: Gully    5.0 /  8   XXXX 0==1 0111
 2: Sjeng    5.0 /  8   1==0 XXXX 0111
 3: Marvin   2.0 /  8   1000 1000 XXXX
---------------------------------------
12 games: +2 =2 -8

Re: [Scidvspc-users] i cant play games on fics

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

Yes, there was a bug.  When the user enters their login in a different case to their actual 
fics name some things - notably playing a game - didn't work properly.

This should be fixed in subversion, and the new fics.tcl is attached.

Steven


> From: enrico tognoni <eto...@li...>
>
> i cannot see the moves of my opponent and i cannot move, even typing 
> refresh i cant see moves only the initial position. My opponents make 
> first move then they abort because i cant move.

[Scidvspc-users] i cant play games on fics

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

i cannot see the moves of my opponent and i cannot move, even typing 
refresh i cant see moves only the initial position. My opponents make 
first move then they abort because i cant move.

ciao ^^

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Export Current Game to HTML Error

[Steven <ste...@ya...>]

> Anyone has the same issue as mine?  Always got error message when I 
> try to export current game to HTML.  No error exporting to PGN though.  
> ....
> window name "space" already exists in parent

Yes - this is a bug.
To fix it, make these two changes to scid.gui (or tcl/end.tcl).

  # Extra option for HTML format: diagram image set
  if {$exportType == "HTML"} {
-   label $w.o.space -text ""
+   label $w.o.space2 -text ""
    label $w.o.hdiag -text "Diagram"
    radiobutton $w.o.hb0 -text "bitmaps" \
        -variable exportFlags(htmldiag) -value 0
    radiobutton $w.o.hb1 -text "bitmaps2" \
        -variable exportFlags(htmldiag) -value 1
    label $w.o.hl0 -image htmldiag0
    label $w.o.hl1 -image htmldiag1
-   grid $w.o.space -row 8 -column 0
+   grid $w.o.space2 -row 8 -column 0