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From: thomas w. h. jr. <twa...@ya...> - 2013-03-01 02:37:52
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Thanks for checking, Phil. We've periodically found "bugs" while using RAILS, but haven't been diligent about reporting them (I'll try to "fix" that problem in the future). -TWHJr ________________________________ From: Phil Davies <de...@gm...> To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> Cc: Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>; "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" I can see what's going on, I think rails is checking all possible orientations of the tile lay on F17 in order to see if it's a legal play. In this case it can't be a legal play because in order to maintain the existing track the tile must be laid in an orientation that doesn't give CA a connection. It is a bug, I'll try and get a look if I ever get my dev environment set up to scratch again but Stefan could probably fix this quicker if he is still active! Phil On 28 February 2013 20:19, thomas wall hannaford, jr. <twa...@ya...> wrote: > Chris & Aliza, you may both be correct. > > However I'm looking at this as a feature (projected potential tile-lays), > already included in the RAILS program, that isn't working correctly. > > What RAILS proposed, in this situation, as a potential 'CA' upgrade > tile-lay, wouldn't be allowable under any 18XX RAW, that I'm aware of. > -TWHJr > > ________________________________ > From: Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > > To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > Cc: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul > A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>; > "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > I think Aliza is pointing out that you are making a feature request, not a > bug report. > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr. > <twa...@ya...> wrote: > > Aliza, the RAILS program must have an algorithm/code that "projects" > possible (?) tile-lays; this needs to be refined so that it only works with > accessible current track-tiles that can be upgraded, or accessible current > (dead-end?) track-tiles that can be extended. -TWHJr > > > ________________________________ > From: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> > To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > Cc: "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...>; > Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske > <pau...@gm...> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules. > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote: > > Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a > 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program. > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>; "dr...@ho..." > <dr...@ho...> > Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>; T Wall HannafordJr > <twa...@ya...> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA > > in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out a > 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100 > -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS' > into London. > > Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow > city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not legal > in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track, and the > 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city. > > It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was > stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW' > also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also > withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > Rails-users mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users > |
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From: Phil D. <de...@gm...> - 2013-03-01 01:20:15
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I can see what's going on, I think rails is checking all possible orientations of the tile lay on F17 in order to see if it's a legal play. In this case it can't be a legal play because in order to maintain the existing track the tile must be laid in an orientation that doesn't give CA a connection. It is a bug, I'll try and get a look if I ever get my dev environment set up to scratch again but Stefan could probably fix this quicker if he is still active! Phil On 28 February 2013 20:19, thomas wall hannaford, jr. <twa...@ya...> wrote: > Chris & Aliza, you may both be correct. > > However I'm looking at this as a feature (projected potential tile-lays), > already included in the RAILS program, that isn't working correctly. > > What RAILS proposed, in this situation, as a potential 'CA' upgrade > tile-lay, wouldn't be allowable under any 18XX RAW, that I'm aware of. > -TWHJr > > ________________________________ > From: Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > > To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > Cc: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul > A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>; > "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > I think Aliza is pointing out that you are making a feature request, not a > bug report. > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr. > <twa...@ya...> wrote: > > Aliza, the RAILS program must have an algorithm/code that "projects" > possible (?) tile-lays; this needs to be refined so that it only works with > accessible current track-tiles that can be upgraded, or accessible current > (dead-end?) track-tiles that can be extended. -TWHJr > > > ________________________________ > From: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> > To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > Cc: "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...>; > Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske > <pau...@gm...> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules. > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote: > > Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a > 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program. > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>; "dr...@ho..." > <dr...@ho...> > Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>; T Wall HannafordJr > <twa...@ya...> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA > > in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out a > 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100 > -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS' > into London. > > Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow > city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not legal > in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track, and the > 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city. > > It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was > stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW' > also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also > withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > Rails-users mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2013-02-28 23:38:47
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I think Aliza is pointing out that you are making a feature request, not a bug report. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr. < twa...@ya...> wrote: > Aliza, the RAILS program must have an algorithm/code that "projects" > possible (?) tile-lays; this needs to be refined so that it only works with > accessible current track-tiles that can be upgraded, or accessible current > (dead-end?) track-tiles that can be extended. -TWHJr > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> > *To:* "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > *Cc:* "rai...@li..." < > rai...@li...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A > Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules. > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote: > > Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a > 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program. > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > *To:* "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>; "dr...@ho..." < > dr...@ho...> > *Cc:* "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>; T Wall HannafordJr > <twa...@ya...> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM > *Subject:* Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA > > in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out > a 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100 > -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS' > into London. > > Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow > city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not > legal in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track, > and the 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city. > > It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was > stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW' > also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also > withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> > *To:* dr...@ho... > *Cc:* twa...@ya...; pau...@gm... > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 PM > *Subject:* RE: 1856PTK-OR3b> Tom GW > > Tom up > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Ken Soo <dr...@ho...> > To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, "thomas wall hannaford, jr." < > twa...@ya...> > Cc: Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...> > Subject: RE: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:25:51 -0600 > > Can't speak of the charlatan running the GW, but if I dump the LPS on you, > you should fall on your knees and thank God for his bounty. > > > *Ken Soo* > > > > ------------------------------ > From: zi...@ju... > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:44:43 +0000 > To: twa...@ya... > CC: twa...@ya...; pau...@gm...; dr...@ho... > Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? > > do you promise not to dump the GW on me if I own more than 1 share? > > Hah, dumping a company on another person can work really well in 1856 too > - for example, you have 4 shares and someone else 2, company has 6 loans - > you sell your 4 shares, and the new president is either forced to buy > shares of it or is forced to pay off 4 loans when it operates. plus you > can use your money for something else, and not have to trade 2 for 1 > government shares... > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, T Wall HannafordJr < > twa...@ya...> > Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>, "dr...@ho..." > <dr...@ho...> > Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:53:59 -0800 (PST) > > > Seriously, what are you talking about? In '1856' you get bailed-out by > putting Railroads into the Government........ > > BTW, Keng, do you want to get a 'LPS' token in London or not? Think about > it, then let me know.....-TWHJr > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> > *To:* twa...@ya... > *Cc:* twa...@ya...; pau...@gm...; dr...@ho... > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS > > paying out better than the CA, and can't dump on me... > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, T Wall HannafordJr < > twa...@ya...> > Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>, "dr...@ho..." > <dr...@ho...> > Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) > > in OR3a the 'GW' lays a straight yellow city, takes out a 3rd loan, pays > $30 interest, runs for $100, and buys a T3 for $225; it's Keng's 'LPS'. > > Note that Keng owns 60% 'LPS'; Paul owns 40% 'CA', 10% each 'LPS' & 'GW' > (why?); Tom owns 40% 'GW' & 10% 'LPS'. -TWHJr > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> > *To:* twa...@ya... > *Cc:* pau...@gm...; dr...@ho...; twa...@ya... > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Tom GW > > Tom's GW up. > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> > To: Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>, Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>, > Ken Soo <dr...@ho...> > Cc: T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> > Subject: Fw: 1856PTK-SR3> Paul2 > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:06:48 -0800 (PST) > > Tom2 passes; Keng2 is passing? Maybe it's back to Paul2? -TWHJr > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> > *To:* dr...@ho... > *Cc:* twa...@ya... > *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 10:06 PM > *Subject:* RE: 1856PTK-SR3> Tom2 > > Paul buys a GW. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *Woman is 53 But Looks 25* > Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/512c3515c1cdf35153601st04vuc> > ConsumerLifestyleMag.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/512c3515c1cdf35153601st04vuc> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb > _______________________________________________ > Rails-users mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users > > |
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From: thomas w. h. jr. <twa...@ya...> - 2013-02-28 21:59:24
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Chris & Aliza, you may both be correct. However I'm looking at this as a feature (projected potential tile-lays), already included in the RAILS program, that isn't working correctly. What RAILS proposed, in this situation, as a potential 'CA' upgrade tile-lay, wouldn't be allowable under any 18XX RAW, that I'm aware of. -TWHJr ________________________________ From: Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> Cc: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>; "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" I think Aliza is pointing out that you are making a feature request, not a bug report. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr. <twa...@ya...> wrote: Aliza, the RAILS program must have an algorithm/code that "projects" possible (?) tile-lays; this needs to be refined so that it only works with accessible current track-tiles that can be upgraded, or accessible current (dead-end?) track-tiles that can be extended. -TWHJr > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> >To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >Cc: "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...> >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:44 AM >Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" > > > >Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules. > > >On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote: > >Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program. >> >> >> >>----- Forwarded Message ----- >>From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >>To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>; "dr...@ho..." <dr...@ho...> >>Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>; T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM >>Subject: Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA >> >> >>in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out a 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100 -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS' into London. >> >> >>Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not legal in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track, and the 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city. >> >> >>It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW' also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr >> >> |
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From: thomas w. h. jr. <twa...@ya...> - 2013-02-28 18:34:02
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Aliza, the RAILS program must have an algorithm/code that "projects" possible (?) tile-lays; this needs to be refined so that it only works with accessible current track-tiles that can be upgraded, or accessible current (dead-end?) track-tiles that can be extended. -TWHJr ________________________________ From: Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> To: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> Cc: "rai...@li..." <rai...@li...>; Ken Soo <dr...@ho...>; Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>; Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Fw: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA & RAILS "bug" Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules. On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote: Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program. > > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>; "dr...@ho..." <dr...@ho...> >Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>; T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM >Subject: Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA > > >in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out a 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100 -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS' into London. > > >Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not legal in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track, and the 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city. > > >It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW' also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr > > > > >________________________________ > From: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> >To: dr...@ho... >Cc: twa...@ya...; pau...@gm... >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 PM >Subject: RE: 1856PTK-OR3b> Tom GW > > >Tom up > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: Ken Soo <dr...@ho...> >To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >Cc: Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...> >Subject: RE: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:25:51 -0600 > > >Can't speak of the charlatan running the GW, but if I dump the LPS on you, you should fall on your knees and thank God for his bounty. > > >Ken Soo > > > > >________________________________ >From: zi...@ju... >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:44:43 +0000 >To: twa...@ya... >CC: twa...@ya...; pau...@gm...; dr...@ho... >Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? > > >do you promise not to dump the GW on me if I own more than 1 share? > >Hah, dumping a company on another person can work really well in 1856 too - for example, you have 4 shares and someone else 2, company has 6 loans - you sell your 4 shares, and the new president is either forced to buy shares of it or is forced to pay off 4 loans when it operates. plus you can use your money for something else, and not have to trade 2 for 1 government shares... > > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> >Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>, "dr...@ho..." <dr...@ho...> >Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping??? >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:53:59 -0800 (PST) > > > >Seriously, what are you talking about? In '1856' you get bailed-out by putting Railroads into the Government........ > >BTW, Keng, do you want to get a 'LPS' token in London or not? Think about it, then let me know.....-TWHJr > > > >________________________________ >From: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> >To: twa...@ya... >Cc: twa...@ya...; pau...@gm...; dr...@ho... >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:10 AM >Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS > > >paying out better than the CA, and can't dump on me... > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >To: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...>, T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> >Cc: "pau...@gm..." <pau...@gm...>, "dr...@ho..." <dr...@ho...> >Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) > > >in OR3a the 'GW' lays a straight yellow city, takes out a 3rd loan, pays $30 interest, runs for $100, and buys a T3 for $225; it's Keng's 'LPS'. > >Note that Keng owns 60% 'LPS'; Paul owns 40% 'CA', 10% each 'LPS' & 'GW' (why?); Tom owns 40% 'GW' & 10% 'LPS'. -TWHJr > > >________________________________ >From: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> >To: twa...@ya... >Cc: pau...@gm...; dr...@ho...; twa...@ya... >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:03 AM >Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Tom GW > > >Tom's GW up. > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...> >To: Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju...>, Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...>, Ken Soo <dr...@ho...> >Cc: T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya...> >Subject: Fw: 1856PTK-SR3> Paul2 >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:06:48 -0800 (PST) > > >Tom2 passes; Keng2 is passing? Maybe it's back to Paul2? -TWHJr > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> >To: dr...@ho... >Cc: twa...@ya... >Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:06 PM >Subject: RE: 1856PTK-SR3> Tom2 > > >Paul buys a GW. > > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Woman is 53 But Looks 25 >Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... >ConsumerLifestyleMag.com > > > > > > > > > > |
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From: Aliza P. <ali...@gm...> - 2013-02-28 16:53:23
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Rails has never claimed to enforce track-laying rules.
On Thursday, February 28, 2013, thomas wall hannaford, jr. wrote:
> Attention RAILS programmers; note the "bug" that I've detected regarding a
> 'CA' potential upgrade tile-lay suggested by the program.
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>
> >
> *To:* "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>"
> <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>; "
> dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>" <
> dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>>
> *Cc:* "pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pau...@gm...');>" <pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>>; T Wall HannafordJr <
> twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: 1856PTK-OR3b> Paul CA
>
> in OR3b Tom operates the 'GW' (it greens London, withholds $140, takes out
> a 4th loan [net $60], buys a 2nd T3, and buys-in the 'TCC' Private for $100
> -still has $90 in its Treasury); it looks like the 'CA' will beat the 'LPS'
> into London.
>
> Paul, although RAILS shows the 'CA' could green that gentle curve yellow
> city port (that is to the east of all those whistlestops), that is not
> legal in '1856' RAW -you need to be able to run a Train on the new track,
> and the 'CA' still won't connect to that upgraded city.
>
> It's now Paul's 'CA' since Keng withheld the 'LPS' in OR3a (maybe Paul was
> stunned that the 'LPS' withheld in OR3a -he may suffer a TKO with the 'GW'
> also withholding to start OR3b [let's see if the 'CA' and 'LPS' also
> withhold in OR3b). -TWHJr
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>"
> <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>
> *To:* dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>
> *Cc:* twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>; pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 PM
> *Subject:* RE: 1856PTK-OR3b> Tom GW
>
> Tom up
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Ken Soo <dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'dr...@ho...');>>
> To: "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>" <
> zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>,
> "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>>
> Cc: Paul Zieske <pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pau...@gm...');>>
> Subject: RE: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping???
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:25:51 -0600
>
> Can't speak of the charlatan running the GW, but if I dump the LPS on you,
> you should fall on your knees and thank God for his bounty.
>
>
> *Ken Soo*
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:44:43 +0000
> To: twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>
> CC: twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>; pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>; dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>
> Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping???
>
> do you promise not to dump the GW on me if I own more than 1 share?
>
> Hah, dumping a company on another person can work really well in 1856 too
> - for example, you have 4 shares and someone else 2, company has 6 loans -
> you sell your 4 shares, and the new president is either forced to buy
> shares of it or is forced to pay off 4 loans when it operates. plus you
> can use your money for something else, and not have to trade 2 for 1
> government shares...
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>
> >
> To: "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>" <
> zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>, T
> Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>>
> Cc: "pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pau...@gm...');>" <pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>>, "dr...@ho...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>"
> <dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>>
> Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> WTF, Dumping???
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:53:59 -0800 (PST)
>
>
> Seriously, what are you talking about? In '1856' you get bailed-out by
> putting Railroads into the Government........
>
> BTW, Keng, do you want to get a 'LPS' token in London or not? Think about
> it, then let me know.....-TWHJr
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>"
> <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>
> *To:* twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>
> *Cc:* twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>; pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>; dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS
>
> paying out better than the CA, and can't dump on me...
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>
> >
> To: "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>" <
> zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>, T
> Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>>
> Cc: "pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pau...@gm...');>" <pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>>, "dr...@ho...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>"
> <dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>>
> Subject: Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Keng LPS
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:06:08 -0800 (PST)
>
> in OR3a the 'GW' lays a straight yellow city, takes out a 3rd loan, pays
> $30 interest, runs for $100, and buys a T3 for $225; it's Keng's 'LPS'.
>
> Note that Keng owns 60% 'LPS'; Paul owns 40% 'CA', 10% each 'LPS' & 'GW'
> (why?); Tom owns 40% 'GW' & 10% 'LPS'. -TWHJr
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>"
> <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>
> *To:* twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>
> *Cc:* pau...@gm... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pau...@gm...');>; dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'dr...@ho...');>; twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: 1856PTK-OR3a> Tom GW
>
> Tom's GW up.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "thomas wall hannaford, jr." <twa...@ya...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'twa...@ya...');>
> >
> To: Paul A Zieske <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'zi...@ju...');>>, Paul Zieske <pau...@gm...<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pau...@gm...');>>,
> Ken Soo <dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'dr...@ho...');>>
> Cc: T Wall HannafordJr <twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>>
> Subject: Fw: 1856PTK-SR3> Paul2
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:06:48 -0800 (PST)
>
> Tom2 passes; Keng2 is passing? Maybe it's back to Paul2? -TWHJr
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* "zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>"
> <zi...@ju... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zi...@ju...');>>
> *To:* dr...@ho... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dr...@ho...');>
> *Cc:* twa...@ya... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'twa...@ya...');>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 10:06 PM
> *Subject:* RE: 1856PTK-SR3> Tom2
>
> Paul buys a GW.
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-10-17 07:28:12
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A new maintenance release for the Rails 1.x series. Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.12/ This release fixes a single bug. Contributors: Erik Vos Bug reported by Volker Schnell 1835: after resuming an OR after a PR formation round, a check was missing if the (minor) operating company still exists. Fix: finish the turn if the operating company is closed at that point. |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-10-11 06:22:20
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.11/ This release fixes two bugs. Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by Volker Schnell Lists of bugs fixed: - When buying trains from other companies, include companies that have floated but do not operate in the current round for any reason. Example was the PR in 1835. - 1889: the free tile lay of private C was not offered if the cash position was not exceeding the (not-applicable) costs of building in the hex Further: - Sorted 1835 game options to make the Options list looks prettier. |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-09-21 10:30:51
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.10/ Contributors: Stefan Frey Bugs reported by theos and Russel J. Alphey Lists of bugs fixed: - fixed bug in starting a company in 18EU if only one start price is possible - fixed bug that the ReportWindow does not scroll down at game start |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-09-17 18:17:37
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.9/ Contributors: Stefan Frey Bugs reported by Arne Österlund Lists of bugs fixed: - List of recent files does not work with few entries - 1830 Coalfields (and others with obsolete trains): Obsolete Trains in Pool should rust (previously they stayed forever) |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-07-23 15:11:20
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.8/ Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by Martin Brumm, John David Galt Lists of bugs fixed: - All Games: Update "PD" label in GameStatus lower player names panel - 1835 (and others with NoMapMode): Cannot save game file with ClosePrivate action |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-06-15 15:52:36
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.7/ Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bug reported by Are-Harald Brenne, John David Galt New: - Added little fun variant 18Lummer Lists of bugs fixed: - Errors in UI after adding a comment at game start - Fixed failure on reloading a just started game - 1835: Manual close of Pfalzbahn is possible (to enable closing after token lay only) - 1835 (and others): Fixed UI issues with token relays on OO-tiles |
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From: Are-Harald B. <are...@gm...> - 2012-06-10 21:40:53
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Two bugs: - If you try to add a comment at the start of the game before any move has been made, the game stops working. You can make a bid or purchase a private, but the round never progresses to the next player. - If you save the game at the start before any move has been made, the game bugs on reloading, similar symptoms as above. This came up when I tried to start a game for play through dropbox and email, where I'm not the first player out. Thanks to the developers for making this very nice piece of software! Cheers, Are-Harald |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-06-04 17:03:32
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.6/ Contributors: Erik Vos Bug reported by Antonio Baracca 1856: Allowing selling a share just bought by the president. (According to Steve Thomas rule clarification). |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-05-30 11:21:49
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.5/ Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by John David Galt, Mike Bourke, Phil Davies New: 1856: Alternate Trains variant added 1856: Alternate Destinations variant added (not fully implemented yet) List of bugs fixed: Phase extra info is reported in report window (e.g. Civil War in 18TN) Tokens on map are updated after undo/redo Fixed non-modal dialog bug during loading game 1835: preventing selling double non-president shares in parts. 1835: fixed 1835 hex distance calculation bug |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-05-08 17:30:29
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.4/ This release fixes several recent bugs. Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by James Romano, Mike Bourke, Volker Schnell List of bugs fixed: - 18EU Hamburg red-to-red bonus calculation incorrect - Fixed exception in Map panel scrolling - In 1835 Companies with a fixed start price postpone laying the current price token until floating time. |
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From: Stefan B. <bl...@gm...> - 2012-04-12 12:20:08
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thanks for the great work. It is getting to a point where it's really usable over the net soon! A repeatable error: 1835 first building round: Bayern puts a tile on it's own station field, then forgets to click 'lay tile', then puts a little curve to the field on the left. When now trying to lay it's home tile second, the program crashes completely, and can't even be saved any more. cheers! Stefan On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:51, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series > > Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the > direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.3/ > > This release fixes several recent bugs. > > Contributors: Erik Vos, Martin Brumm, Stefan Frey > > Bugs reported by Arne Osterlund, John David Galt, Volker Schnell > > List of bugs fixed: > - Fixed UI bug in 18EU: Missing text on DeclineToBid button > - Fixed bug with picture id (which prevented displaying Goderich -939 tile) > - Fixed wrong behavior of train obsoleting in 1830 Variants (Coalfield > and Reading) > - Added text in report window about train rusting and obsoleting > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. > Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. > Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 > _______________________________________________ > Rails-announce mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-announce -- Dr. Stefan Bleeck Institute of Sound and Vibration Research Faculty of Engineering & the Environment University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK Room 4093, Tizard building (13) bl...@gm... Tel.: 02380 596682 |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-04-12 11:51:26
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.3/ This release fixes several recent bugs. Contributors: Erik Vos, Martin Brumm, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by Arne Osterlund, John David Galt, Volker Schnell List of bugs fixed: - Fixed UI bug in 18EU: Missing text on DeclineToBid button - Fixed bug with picture id (which prevented displaying Goderich -939 tile) - Fixed wrong behavior of train obsoleting in 1830 Variants (Coalfield and Reading) - Added text in report window about train rusting and obsoleting |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-04-04 17:01:27
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.2/ Remark: Unfortunately sourceforge is slow today, so please be patient until the new release is available. This (quick) release fixes a critical error that could prevent Rails to start after changing the configuration settings on Windows systems. Contributors: Erik Vos, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by John David Galt, Phil Davies Bugs fixed: - Fixed error in creation of new profiles on Windows OS systems - Made configuration system more robust against corrupted/misconfigured profiles - Fixed missing options after "Destinations reached" dialogue without any selection |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-04-03 10:26:11
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A new maintenance release for Rails 1.x series Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the direct link http://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.7.1/ This release fixes several recent bugs. Contributors: Erik Vos, Martin Brumm, Stefan Frey Bugs reported by John David Galt, Volker Schnell, Mike Bourke, Arne Östlund, Jerry Anderson (I hope I forgot to list no one). A few minor improvements to the rails setup: - An (initial) configuration profile for face-to-face/hotseat play is added ("hotseat"): Activates autosave and changes filename pattern suggested for save. - Windows settings (including docking settings if activated) and autosave backup are stored in the centralized rails configuraton folder. Thus from this release on those settings should survive upgrades to new releases. List of bugs fixed: - Typo in manifest that caused image errors in some background maps - 18EU: Not possible to lay home token for companies started outside of current network. - 1856, 18EU, 1830 Coalfield and others: Fixed wrong calculation for routes for Goderich tile, red off-board run-through (-939) - 18Kaas: Enables unlimited D-trains option - 1835: Fixed wrong total player worth calculation - 1835: Fixed wrong revenue calculation with respect to Elsas/Alsace outside of green phase |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-03-27 18:14:22
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Hi Kévin, welcome to Rails. A good start is to checkout the wiki (check the link on the homepage of Rails). It describes how to setup a development environment for Rails (using Eclipse). There are already some xml files for 1870 from a long time ago: It seems that the base parameters have already been setup. Unfortunately there are some rules in 1870 which will require development of at least intermediate difficulty (e.g. price protection, destination tokens and some of the private companies special features). One of the reasons for my redesign for Rails2.0 was to be better able to add the features required for 1870. If you have experience with other titles closer to those already implemented, it might be easier to start with those. However you can always ask for comments and feedback using the development list, so feel free to start with what you like best. Stefan On 03/26/2012 05:59 PM, Kévin Civy wrote: > Hi I'm a new user on the mailing list and a french 18XX player. > I've got 1870, 1830 and 18AL at home. > > I've tested and approved Rails with 1830 and 18AL games and wish to > add 1870 to the playable games. > > How can I help ? > I'm webmaster so I can deal with XML files and do a little development > if it's not too complicated. > > Best regards |
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From: Tom M. <tom...@gm...> - 2012-03-26 16:42:06
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From the 1880 rulebook: - As soon as the Director owns the qualifying number of shares at the end of a Share Round, the company becomes operational and its home station is placed, free of charge, on the space designated for it on the map. A further marker is placed on the appropriate starting place on the Share Price Chart. ? In Phase A1 (beginning of the game) the qualifying number of shares is 20%. ? In Phase B1 (first 3-train is bought) the qualifying number of shares is 30%. ? In Phase B3 (first 4-train is bought) the qualifying number of shares is 40%. ? In Phase C2 (first 6-train is bought) the qualifying number of shares is 60%. - If at the end of a Share Round there are no shares available in a company, it opens, irrespective of whether the Director owns the qualifying number of shares. The Director has to float it himself. The all shares sold rule is to keep the other players from conspiring to keep it from floating. -------------------------------------------- Tom McCorry Sent from my iPad On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:31, "Dutton, Richard" <r.d...@as...> wrote: > A couple of comments: > > I believe that to float a company in 1880 the right number of shares have to be in players’ hands at the end of the stock round, so buying and then selling to the market doesn’t work. > > Is there a rule that lets the Rocket owner discard a train to accept the second T4? > > Rick > > From: Tom McCorry [mailto:tom...@gm...] > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:36 AM > To: Dr....@t-... > Cc: zi...@ju...; twa...@ya...; jbe...@gm...; ed...@we...; Rails Development; Rails Users; Dutton, Richard > Subject: Re: [Rails-users] BugFix Release for Rails 1880 Alpha5 available - still buggy? > > A few other esoteric rules to work on at some point if not handled already: > > 1) A company only floats when then the Director has the required number of shares or the company is sold out. So if it takes 4 shares to float and the Director has three and someone else has 1, the company does not float. > > 2) Companies only float at the end of a stock round (i.e. you can't buy enough to float and then sell down in the same SR). > > 3) A player's foreign investor gets a share of the first company a Director floats. It does not get a share if the player takes over the Directorship from another player. > > 4) A foreign investor may never close during the game (it may never connect to the associated railroad or the Player may lose the Directorship of the associated company.) Need to account for closeout of company in this manner. > > 5) When the first 4 train is sold, the second 4 train goes to the owner of the Rocket if still in play immediately. If the owner of the Rocket is train tight, the bonus train is lost. > > 6) 1880 has a loan feature for emergency train buying. > > 7) Bonus run for Russia to Vladasvosktok > > > > > Comments on previous items: > > 1) As noted, there is no reason I can imagine to buy a smaller (fewer phases) building permit and is against the rules to buy a larger permit. The general design philosophy of Rails to allow what you can do in the game, enforce rules automatically when reasonable from a coding perspective, and rely on players to enforce rules like they would in a live game otherwise should apply. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Tom McCorry > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:17, "Dr....@t-..." <Dr....@t-...> wrote: > > Hi, > > as stated, currently one has to save the game after the End of the Startround Bid/SelectionPhase and quit the game. Start Rails anew and load the save game. This will fix th problem with the incorrect player order on display. This workaround needs to be kept until we can fix that handling by the game engine. > > The rules state the following: > > The number of Building Permits is dependent on the Director's Certificate. If this is a > 40% share, the Building Permit is for 1 Phase. > 30% share, the Building Permit is for 2 Phases. > 20% share, the Building Permit is for 3 Phases. > - The Director has a free choice over which Phases. > > One could now argue that the phrase "is for" makes it mandatory for a director to select a 3 Phase Permit. I took the next statement to be the indication that a director might choose some other building right. (Perhaps i should recode that based on the logical assumption that no director > will want to forfeit a possible building phase ? -Opinions here ?) > > There is currently no automatic detection of a connect situation. You have to declare the connect manually via the Reach Destination Ability of the GUI. > > Running Routes through Taiwan is a bug might be related to the fact that it is a town and not a city. Will check that. > > The Chinese River Building Company P4: > The owner of P4 incurs no cost whenever they build for the first time in a river hex. If a hex shows > both a river and a mountain symbol, the building cost is reduced by ¥20. > > You cant buy 50 % of stock until the first 3 train is sold. If you cant buy any more after the first 3 train is sold thats a bug. > > I'll look into the behaviour again, please do me a favour and save the game and send the savefile to me with a short description of the bugs or things you think should be handled differently. > > > > Von: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> > An: dr....@t-... > Cc: twa...@ya..., jbe...@gm..., ed...@we..., r.d...@as... > Betreff: Update: BugFix Release for Rails 1880 Alpha5 available - still buggy? > Datum: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:36:25 +0100 > > > Okay, I tried running a game again, and didn't see some of the problems I did the first time, namely wrong player cash/spending and game hanging up after a SR after round cycling. However, I did see: BCR getting a choice of building rights - it's always a 20% certif so should be ABC or BCD only - but this is minor. More criticial issues: you don't get Private investor share, cash, and 50 bonus when you connect - they stay running; it runs routes through, not just to, Taiwan - like if it was city/town; tried to upgrade yellow to green on river and it asked for more money to pay for it; looks like some private company gives ability to lay unconnected track; you can't buy more than 50% of companies. > Best regards, Paul > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > Hi Guys, if you experience any problems please send me the save file. > Regards, Martin > > > Also, Paul has been "playing" with '1880' from this version of RAILS, and experienced the problems described below (Dr. Brumm please note), so we need to keep an eye on things. > > > I downloaded the game from the dropbox. Then started a game as a trial. Some problems: cash was associated with the wrong player. For example player #1 had 200+ and couldn't buy anything, but #2 who had 80 was able to continue buying 100 value shares. One of my players started the HKR (the one that starts in Shanghai) and there are no tiles available for Shanghai. Finally, when the company order got around to the point when the rest of the 2Ts disappear and you have a stock round, the stock round was okay I think, except for the player cash issue, but then the game went back to the company whose turn was interrupted by the SR, and was asking if it wanted to buy a train or be done. 2+2Ts were not available though they should be, and also selecting "done" didn't end the company's turn. > Paul > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > consumerproducts.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF email is sponsosred by: > Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure > _______________________________________________ > Rails-users mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2012-03-26 16:03:30
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Dr....@t-... < Dr....@t-...> wrote: > The rules state the following: > > > > The number of Building Permits is dependent on the Director's Certificate. > If this is a > 40% share, the Building Permit is for 1 Phase. > 30% share, the Building Permit is for 2 Phases. > 20% share, the Building Permit is for 3 Phases. > - The Director has a free choice over which Phases. > > > > One could now argue that the phrase "is for" makes it mandatory for a > director to select a 3 Phase Permit. I took the next statement to be the > indication that a director might choose some other building right. > (Perhaps i should recode that based on the logical assumption that no > director > > will want to forfeit a possible building phase ? -Opinions here ?) > My opinion is that it is illegal for a director of a 20% company to choose a 1 or 2 phase certificate. I believe that "is for" mandates the specific size of the certificate. The "free choice" is the choice between ABC or BCD in the case of the 20% certificate. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. |
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From: Kévin C. <kev...@gm...> - 2012-03-26 15:59:57
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Hi I'm a new user on the mailing list and a french 18XX player. I've got 1870, 1830 and 18AL at home. I've tested and approved Rails with 1830 and 18AL games and wish to add 1870 to the playable games. How can I help ? I'm webmaster so I can deal with XML files and do a little development if it's not too complicated. Best regards -- Kévin |
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From: Dutton, R. <r.d...@as...> - 2012-03-26 15:42:33
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A couple of comments: I believe that to float a company in 1880 the right number of shares have to be in players’ hands at the end of the stock round, so buying and then selling to the market doesn’t work. Is there a rule that lets the Rocket owner discard a train to accept the second T4? Rick From: Tom McCorry [mailto:tom...@gm...] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:36 AM To: Dr....@t-... Cc: zi...@ju...; twa...@ya...; jbe...@gm...; ed...@we...; Rails Development; Rails Users; Dutton, Richard Subject: Re: [Rails-users] BugFix Release for Rails 1880 Alpha5 available - still buggy? A few other esoteric rules to work on at some point if not handled already: 1) A company only floats when then the Director has the required number of shares or the company is sold out. So if it takes 4 shares to float and the Director has three and someone else has 1, the company does not float. 2) Companies only float at the end of a stock round (i.e. you can't buy enough to float and then sell down in the same SR). 3) A player's foreign investor gets a share of the first company a Director floats. It does not get a share if the player takes over the Directorship from another player. 4) A foreign investor may never close during the game (it may never connect to the associated railroad or the Player may lose the Directorship of the associated company.) Need to account for closeout of company in this manner. 5) When the first 4 train is sold, the second 4 train goes to the owner of the Rocket if still in play immediately. If the owner of the Rocket is train tight, the bonus train is lost. 6) 1880 has a loan feature for emergency train buying. 7) Bonus run for Russia to Vladasvosktok Comments on previous items: 1) As noted, there is no reason I can imagine to buy a smaller (fewer phases) building permit and is against the rules to buy a larger permit. The general design philosophy of Rails to allow what you can do in the game, enforce rules automatically when reasonable from a coding perspective, and rely on players to enforce rules like they would in a live game otherwise should apply. -------------------------------------------- Tom McCorry Sent from my iPad On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:17, "Dr....@t-..." <Dr....@t-...> wrote: Hi, as stated, currently one has to save the game after the End of the Startround Bid/SelectionPhase and quit the game. Start Rails anew and load the save game. This will fix th problem with the incorrect player order on display. This workaround needs to be kept until we can fix that handling by the game engine. The rules state the following: The number of Building Permits is dependent on the Director's Certificate. If this is a 40% share, the Building Permit is for 1 Phase. 30% share, the Building Permit is for 2 Phases. 20% share, the Building Permit is for 3 Phases. - The Director has a free choice over which Phases. One could now argue that the phrase "is for" makes it mandatory for a director to select a 3 Phase Permit. I took the next statement to be the indication that a director might choose some other building right. (Perhaps i should recode that based on the logical assumption that no director will want to forfeit a possible building phase ? -Opinions here ?) There is currently no automatic detection of a connect situation. You have to declare the connect manually via the Reach Destination Ability of the GUI. Running Routes through Taiwan is a bug might be related to the fact that it is a town and not a city. Will check that. The Chinese River Building Company P4: The owner of P4 incurs no cost whenever they build for the first time in a river hex. If a hex shows both a river and a mountain symbol, the building cost is reduced by ¥20. You cant buy 50 % of stock until the first 3 train is sold. If you cant buy any more after the first 3 train is sold thats a bug. I'll look into the behaviour again, please do me a favour and save the game and send the savefile to me with a short description of the bugs or things you think should be handled differently. Von: "zi...@ju..." <zi...@ju...> An: dr....@t-... Cc: twa...@ya..., jbe...@gm..., ed...@we..., r.d...@as... Betreff: Update: BugFix Release for Rails 1880 Alpha5 available - still buggy? Datum: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:36:25 +0100 Okay, I tried running a game again, and didn't see some of the problems I did the first time, namely wrong player cash/spending and game hanging up after a SR after round cycling. However, I did see: BCR getting a choice of building rights - it's always a 20% certif so should be ABC or BCD only - but this is minor. More criticial issues: you don't get Private investor share, cash, and 50 bonus when you connect - they stay running; it runs routes through, not just to, Taiwan - like if it was city/town; tried to upgrade yellow to green on river and it asked for more money to pay for it; looks like some private company gives ability to lay unconnected track; you can't buy more than 50% of companies. Best regards, Paul ---------- Original Message ---------- Hi Guys, if you experience any problems please send me the save file. Regards, Martin Also, Paul has been "playing" with '1880' from this version of RAILS, and experienced the problems described below (Dr. Brumm please note), so we need to keep an eye on things. I downloaded the game from the dropbox. Then started a game as a trial. Some problems: cash was associated with the wrong player. For example player #1 had 200+ and couldn't buy anything, but #2 who had 80 was able to continue buying 100 value shares. One of my players started the HKR (the one that starts in Shanghai) and there are no tiles available for Shanghai. Finally, when the company order got around to the point when the rest of the 2Ts disappear and you have a stock round, the stock round was okay I think, except for the player cash issue, but then the game went back to the company whose turn was interrupted by the SR, and was asking if it wanted to buy a train or be done. 2+2Ts were not available though they should be, and also selecting "done" didn't end the company's turn. 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