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Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-announce] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

To avoid some disappointment with this release I will give some more hints
what to expect.

There has been some bug-fixes which can cause some save files to be 
incompatible with the new release. Exchange of trains is one example.
If such an error occurs either stay with the previous release or start at that 
point and replay the missing moves.

Another thing to mention is that route and revenue calculation is disabled by 
default for save files from previous Rails version. This allows pbem users to 
update to that rails version for bug-fixes who do want to play with automatic 
game support turned on. For new games the default is to activate them, but 
each of them can be deactivated under the game options.

And to finish here is that Erik has improved 1835 that it is ready for serious 
testing, but please do not start long-running pbems yet ;-)

Stefan

On Monday 31 May 2010 16:45:46 Jeff Feuer wrote:
> I just loaded up an 1830 save file in which I ended the previous OR by
> exchanging a 4 train for a D.  When I make the move and save the file
> (using either Rails 1.2.2 or Rails 1.3), Rails 1.3 says it's an illegal
> move and rewinds the game back to the buy train step.  It's definitely
> legal, and Rails 1.3 lets me do it, but it won't let me load up a save
> containing the move.
>
> Jeff
>
> brett lentz wrote:
> > I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.
> >
> > This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
> > revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
> > this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
> > is.
> >
> > Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > ---Brett.
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Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-announce] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[Jeff F. <fe...@op...>]

I just loaded up an 1830 save file in which I ended the previous OR by 
exchanging a 4 train for a D.  When I make the move and save the file 
(using either Rails 1.2.2 or Rails 1.3), Rails 1.3 says it's an illegal 
move and rewinds the game back to the buy train step.  It's definitely 
legal, and Rails 1.3 lets me do it, but it won't let me load up a save 
containing the move.

Jeff

brett lentz wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.
>
> This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
> revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
> this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
> is.
>
> Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/
>
> ---Brett.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rails-announce mailing list
> Rai...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-announce
>
>
>   

[Rails-users] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.

This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
is.

Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/

---Brett.

Re: [Rails-users] my.properties usage

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I agree that the usage is counter-intuitive.  This question has come up
several times before on the developers list.  There is a command line
parameter you can use to override the internal my.properties file with
another file, including the one that sits in the directory with
rails.sh|bat|jar.  Without specifying the parameter, there is no override.

--
Chris

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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...>wrote:

> I've tried editing the my.properties file in my rails folder (the
> folder containing rails.sh and rails-1.2.2.jar) and have used the
> NEXT_PLAYER suffix as follows:
>
> save.filename.suffix=NEXT_PLAYER
>
> Still, my saves to not do this.
>
> Digging further, I used an archive utility to look inside the .jar
> file and noticed another my.properties file within the jar. I edited
> this file and updated the jar and then got the result I was looking
> for.
>
> Is it intended that the my.properties file in the application folder
> is ignored? If so, one would obviously question why it exists there at
> all, so I'm guessing the expected behavior is that the app folder file
> should override what is in the jar at runtime or something.
>
> If I can provide any more details information to help with the issue,
> just ask. Not sure what would be of use at this point except my
> system.
>
> I'm running karmic koala ubuntu on i686 smp.
>
> java -version output:
> java version "1.6.0_15"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode)
>
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[Rails-users] my.properties usage

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

I've tried editing the my.properties file in my rails folder (the
folder containing rails.sh and rails-1.2.2.jar) and have used the
NEXT_PLAYER suffix as follows:

save.filename.suffix=NEXT_PLAYER

Still, my saves to not do this.

Digging further, I used an archive utility to look inside the .jar
file and noticed another my.properties file within the jar. I edited
this file and updated the jar and then got the result I was looking
for.

Is it intended that the my.properties file in the application folder
is ignored? If so, one would obviously question why it exists there at
all, so I'm guessing the expected behavior is that the app folder file
should override what is in the jar at runtime or something.

If I can provide any more details information to help with the issue,
just ask. Not sure what would be of use at this point except my
system.

I'm running karmic koala ubuntu on i686 smp.

java -version output:
java version "1.6.0_15"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode)

[Rails-users] 1889 Private Power Issue

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

I wouldn't call this a bug, but I found something in 1889 that may be
worth some polish if/when someone feels like it. I was unclear on the
1889 rules with regards to the Private Company E (which can be traded
by the owning player for an IR share). The rules didn't clearly state
whether this should be done during a stock turn, stock round, OR, etc.
So, in rails, I tried to use the power during my corporation's
operating turn (since some other games have privates which would allow
this trade IIRC) and the message I got was: "Unexpected action:
UseSpecialProperty: Swap E for 10% share of IR".

I didn't know if this was a rails limitation on what should be allowed
or whether rails just was following rules but not making that clear to
me. I inquired on BGG and JC (who I generally consider an authority on
rules) suggested that in this game, the trade must be done as a stock
buying action.

As such, rails appears to be following the rules accordingly, but it
would be helpful if the response message to the user was clearer, such
as "This special property must be used during your stock turn" or
similar.

I obviously have no idea if the code supports dynamic responses for
things like this, but figured I'd point it out in case it matters to
anyone.

Re: [Rails-users] Hi what are the system requirements to run rails?

[robert g. <rob...@gm...>]

That fixed it.  Thanks Phil.  When I extract with Winzip I need to click on
"Use Folder Names".

Robert

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:

> Robert,
>
> There aren't any specific system requirements other than that your
> machine is capable of running Java.  Judging by the below it looks
> like you might be missing some components from the downloaded game.
> It's also possible that the log4j component isn't in the right place.
> When you extracted the zip file, did you retain the directory
> structure?  There should be a \lib directory underneath wherever you
> extracted rails to with a \log4j-1.2 directory underneath that, does
> any of this exist?
>
> Phil
>
> On 28 March 2010 23:24, robert greene <rob...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I can't get rails to run  I have a somewhat old compaq preserio with
> 512mb
> > of main memory.  Is that enough?  Is there a videocard requirement to run
> > rails?  I can email the error message if anyone's interested.  Maybe I
> > should do that anyways.
> >
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> > org/apache/log4j/Logger
> >
> > at rails.util.Config.<clinit><config.java:28>
> > at rails.util.RunGame.main<RunGame.java:33>
> > caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.log4j.Logger
> > at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run<Unknown Source>
> > at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged<Native Method>
> > at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass<unknown Source>
> > ...
> >
> > --
> > Robert Greene
> > rob...@gm...
> >
> >
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Re: [Rails-users] Hi what are the system requirements to run rails?

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Robert,

There aren't any specific system requirements other than that your
machine is capable of running Java.  Judging by the below it looks
like you might be missing some components from the downloaded game.
It's also possible that the log4j component isn't in the right place.
When you extracted the zip file, did you retain the directory
structure?  There should be a \lib directory underneath wherever you
extracted rails to with a \log4j-1.2 directory underneath that, does
any of this exist?

Phil

On 28 March 2010 23:24, robert greene <rob...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I can't get rails to run  I have a somewhat old compaq preserio with 512mb
> of main memory.  Is that enough?  Is there a videocard requirement to run
> rails?  I can email the error message if anyone's interested.  Maybe I
> should do that anyways.
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> org/apache/log4j/Logger
>
> at rails.util.Config.<clinit><config.java:28>
> at rails.util.RunGame.main<RunGame.java:33>
> caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.log4j.Logger
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run<Unknown Source>
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged<Native Method>
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass<unknown Source>
> ...
>
> --
> Robert Greene
> rob...@gm...
>
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>

[Rails-users] Hi what are the system requirements to run rails?

[robert g. <rob...@gm...>]

Hi everybody,

I can't get rails to run  I have a somewhat old compaq preserio with 512mb
of main memory.  Is that enough?  Is there a videocard requirement to run
rails?  I can email the error message if anyone's interested.  Maybe I
should do that anyways.

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/log4j/Logger

at rails.util.Config.<clinit><config.java:28>
at rails.util.RunGame.main<RunGame.java:33>
caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.log4j.Logger
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run<Unknown Source>
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged<Native Method>
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass<unknown Source>
...

-- 
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rob...@gm...

[Rails-users] Call for Rails save files

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

All users of Rails:

To improve the library of test cases for Rails all users are invited 
to submit their saved game files. Especially fully completed games are of 
interest: It is possible to save games even after the end of game message.

But unfinished games with interesting and complicated moves are 
equally helpful.

And those you use Rails for pbem are invited as well to submit their current 
state of game: This strongly increases the likelihood that their game 
will still be reloadable with the next releases, at least up to the state of 
the submitted file.

Please state in the mail body the name of the submitter, 18xx gametype and if 
the game was a completed game or is a pbem in progress. Only submit 
save files that were created by a fairly recent Rails version (1.1.0 upwards, 
Dec2009+).

Simulated games can be submitted too, but please indicate that as well.

Simply send the save file as attachment off the list directly
to Erik Vos (eri...@xs...) or Stefan Frey (ste...@we...).

Thanks for your support!

[Rails-users] Call for Rails save files

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

All users of Rails:

To improve the library of test cases for Rails all users are invited 
to submit their saved game files. Especially fully completed games are of 
interest: It is possible to save games even after the end of game message.

But unfinished games with interesting and complicated moves are 
equally helpful.

And those you use Rails for pbem are invited as well to submit their current 
state of game: This strongly increases the likelihood that their game 
will still be reloadable with the next releases, at least up to the state of 
the submitted file.

Please state in the mail body the name of the submitter, 18xx gametype and if 
the game was a completed game or is a pbem in progress.

Simulated games can be submitted too, but please indicate that as well.

Simply send the save file as attachment off the list directly
to Erik Vos (eri...@xs...) or Stefan Frey (ste...@we...).

Thanks for your support!

Re: [Rails-users] Link on front page broken

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

Thanks for letting us know!  I'll fix that right now.

---Brett.



On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm...> wrote:
> The link on the rails page to the rails users list is broken.
>
> Just got a 4P game of 1889 started with 1.2.1. Looking forward to
> testing it out!
>
> Justin
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> _______________________________________________
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>

[Rails-users] Link on front page broken

[Justin R. <jus...@gm...>]

The link on the rails page to the rails users list is broken.

Just got a 4P game of 1889 started with 1.2.1. Looking forward to
testing it out!

Justin

[Rails-users] New mailing lists

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

Hey gang -

I've created two new mailing lists:

rails-users and rails-announce.

The -users list will be for non-technical discussions, gameplay and
rules interpretation discussions, and support requests from users.

The -announce list will be for anybody that wants to skip the
discussions and just hear about new releases. It'll be a very low
traffic list that's only used to distribute major news.

---Brett.