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[Rails-users] Rails 1.4 is available!

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

I'm pleased to announce the general availability of the latest version
of Rails, version 1.4.

Downloads are available at http://rails.sourceforge.net/ or by the
direct link https://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/1.4/


Some release highlights:

* Configuration UI
- Configuration settings are available both at the StartUp window and
under Options=>Configuration.
- Settings are/have to be stored as profiles in a configuration file

* New configuration options (especially for ftf)
- Autosave option
- Adjustable Font styles and sizes
- Map autoscrolling

* Game history
- Report window replaced by GameHistory window, that allows to go
backwards and forward through the game report. Start of replay at any
position possible.
- Old report window can be activated via configuration.
- Uses undo mechanism, thus might still hang sometimes.

* Other bug fixes
- Fixes for 1856 and 18EU undo problems.
- Improved revenue calculation (10-30% faster)



---Brett.

Re: [Rails-users] No-map mode

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

The noMapMode is not activated for all games, as some of them need a few 
tweaks to work in that mode:
Especially token laying is critical issue here. 

However it seems from the rules  that 18AL does not require no such changes, 
so I activate that option, but I have not done a test play for this yet.

Thus the only remaining fully implemented game without noMapMode is 1856.
I know which issues have to be considered (CGR merger and tokens and special 
tokens), but this will have to wait for the next release. 

Stefan

On Saturday, August 28, 2010 01:12:48 am Bob Archer wrote:
> Ah I see. But, that option goes away when I select 18AL. Is it not
> available for all the games?
> 
> BOb
> 
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:
> > Bob,
> > 
> > When you start a new game, click the options button and tick the 'no
> > map mode' selection box, this will put you in face to face mode.
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> > On 27 August 2010 02:19, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> > > The release note's mention a no-map mode. How do you actually get into
> > 
> > that.
> > 
> > > Are there any docs for this app? I would be happy to contribute some...
> > 
> > but
> > 
> > > I'm not sure how much the app changes from game to game. Like, in 18AL
> > 
> > there
> > 
> > > is a "special" menu on the game status page which is Yellow, but does
> > > nothing. Although at times it says "XXXX Requests a Turn"... but I'm
> > > not sure what/why that is needed.
> > > I'm enjoying using rails while I learn/play 18AL via forum on BGG.
> > > Thanks,
> > > BOb
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Re: [Rails-users] 18AL Coal Token bonus being calculated in Phase 6

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Hi Bob,
thanks for your bug report.
I used the window of opportunity for a quick fix of that bug, so that it will 
be included in the upcoming release.

This was easy to recreate, but it in general it is helpful to provide a save 
file of the game state, for which the bug occurred. 

Even better is using the sourceforge bug tracker, that allows to attach the 
bug.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=132173&atid=723360

None of this is a prerequisite for a bug fix, but it helps to find all bugs at 
one place.
Stefan


On Friday, August 27, 2010 03:16:58 am Bob Archer wrote:
> Playing a game of 18AL. A 6 train was bough and the coal token was removed.
> However, the route calculation still included the $10 bonus.
> 
> BOb

Re: [Rails-users] No-map mode

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Ah I see. But, that option goes away when I select 18AL. Is it not available
for all the games?

BOb


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> When you start a new game, click the options button and tick the 'no
> map mode' selection box, this will put you in face to face mode.
>
> Phil
>
> On 27 August 2010 02:19, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> > The release note's mention a no-map mode. How do you actually get into
> that.
> > Are there any docs for this app? I would be happy to contribute some...
> but
> > I'm not sure how much the app changes from game to game. Like, in 18AL
> there
> > is a "special" menu on the game status page which is Yellow, but does
> > nothing. Although at times it says "XXXX Requests a Turn"... but I'm not
> > sure what/why that is needed.
> > I'm enjoying using rails while I learn/play 18AL via forum on BGG.
> > Thanks,
> > BOb
> >
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Re: [Rails-users] No-map mode

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Bob,

When you start a new game, click the options button and tick the 'no
map mode' selection box, this will put you in face to face mode.

Phil

On 27 August 2010 02:19, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> The release note's mention a no-map mode. How do you actually get into that.
> Are there any docs for this app? I would be happy to contribute some... but
> I'm not sure how much the app changes from game to game. Like, in 18AL there
> is a "special" menu on the game status page which is Yellow, but does
> nothing. Although at times it says "XXXX Requests a Turn"... but I'm not
> sure what/why that is needed.
> I'm enjoying using rails while I learn/play 18AL via forum on BGG.
> Thanks,
> BOb
>
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Re: [Rails-users] "Requests a Turn"

[Aliza P. <ali...@gm...>]

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> [...]  there
> is a "special" menu on the game status page which is Yellow, but does
> nothing. Although at times it says "XXXX Requests a Turn"... but I'm not
> sure what/why that is needed.

In a stock round in a PBeM game, Betty does an "autopass" and 3 turns
later raises her hand and says "I wasn't expecting that, I want my
next turn now."

 - Aliza

[Rails-users] No-map mode

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

The release note's mention a no-map mode. How do you actually get into that.

Are there any docs for this app? I would be happy to contribute some... but
I'm not sure how much the app changes from game to game. Like, in 18AL there
is a "special" menu on the game status page which is Yellow, but does
nothing. Although at times it says "XXXX Requests a Turn"... but I'm not
sure what/why that is needed.

I'm enjoying using rails while I learn/play 18AL via forum on BGG.

Thanks,
BOb

[Rails-users] 18AL Coal Token bonus being calculated in Phase 6

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Playing a game of 18AL. A 6 train was bough and the coal token was removed.
However, the route calculation still included the $10 bonus.

BOb

Re: [Rails-users] How do I install Rails?

[Dave B. <da...@be...>]

Phil,

Thanks.  On checking, I found the package hadn't unzipped 
properly.  It's working fine now.

Dave.


At 21:09 22/08/2010, Phil Davies wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Make sure when you unzip the zip file you maintain the directory 
>structure, rails expects the log4j file to be in a certain location.
>
>You don't need eclipse or anythig else, just the standard jde
>
>Phil
>
>On 21 Aug 2010, at 15:07, Dave Berry <da...@be...> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have downloaded Rails (onto my Windows XP PC) and unzipped it.  I
> > can't find any instructions on how to install or run it.  I've looked
> > in the README, on the web site and in the archives of this mailing
> > list.  I tried running the rails.bat file (without any arguments) and
> > I get an NoClassDefFoundError exception, looking for 
> org/apache/log4j/Logger.
> >
> > Do I need to add a folder to my %PATH% variable or something?  In
> > case it matters, here is the output of "java -version":
> >
> > C:\rails-1.3>java -version
> > java version "1.6.0_20"
> > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
> > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
> >
> > I have not set this machine as a development PC (yet), so I don't
> > have Eclipse installed or anything like that.  Currently I'm just
> > trying to run Rails to see what it's like.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Rails-users] How do I install Rails?

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Dave,

Make sure when you unzip the zip file you maintain the directory structure, rails expects the log4j file to be in a certain location.

You don't need eclipse or anythig else, just the standard jde

Phil

On 21 Aug 2010, at 15:07, Dave Berry <da...@be...> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have downloaded Rails (onto my Windows XP PC) and unzipped it.  I 
> can't find any instructions on how to install or run it.  I've looked 
> in the README, on the web site and in the archives of this mailing 
> list.  I tried running the rails.bat file (without any arguments) and 
> I get an NoClassDefFoundError exception, looking for org/apache/log4j/Logger.
> 
> Do I need to add a folder to my %PATH% variable or something?  In 
> case it matters, here is the output of "java -version":
> 
> C:\rails-1.3>java -version
> java version "1.6.0_20"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
> 
> I have not set this machine as a development PC (yet), so I don't 
> have Eclipse installed or anything like that.  Currently I'm just 
> trying to run Rails to see what it's like.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> 
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[Rails-users] How do I install Rails?

[Dave B. <da...@be...>]

Hello,

I have downloaded Rails (onto my Windows XP PC) and unzipped it.  I 
can't find any instructions on how to install or run it.  I've looked 
in the README, on the web site and in the archives of this mailing 
list.  I tried running the rails.bat file (without any arguments) and 
I get an NoClassDefFoundError exception, looking for org/apache/log4j/Logger.

Do I need to add a folder to my %PATH% variable or something?  In 
case it matters, here is the output of "java -version":

C:\rails-1.3>java -version
java version "1.6.0_20"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)

I have not set this machine as a development PC (yet), so I don't 
have Eclipse installed or anything like that.  Currently I'm just 
trying to run Rails to see what it's like.

Best wishes,

Dave.

Re: [Rails-users] RAILS 18EU Program Error

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Paul,
 
Thanks for reporting.
 

I've noticed a couple other errors in 18EU (playing several 2-player
solitaire games).
 
- It lets you merge a minor into a newly forming company even if there is no
track connection. 

[EV] Track connection awareness for tile and token laying has only recently
been implemented, and not all cases have already been covered. 
Certainly connections required for merging aren't recognised yet. 
Fortunately this omission does not prevent you from playing according to the
rules... :-)

 
- I had a company I think with a 5 with a Pullman, and had another company
buy the 5 train off - the Pullman remained on the company, and even ran for
revenue. 

[EV] Correct. I have fixed this, the Pullmann is now discarded. This fix
will be in the next release.

 
- Usually it starts a new tile play connecting with existing track, but
sometimes I've noticed it doesn't.  For example, in the hex 2 spaces SW of
minor 11, it starts off with the yellow city pointing north and south, and
lets you play it, even though it should be pointing sw-ne. 

[EV] You mean in Trieste? That's one example of a case that has not yet been
covered: laid tiles are currently only required to connect to *any* track
(such as the Trieste harbour), not specifically to track that has a route.
Again, for now you'll have to decide for yourself if you want to play
according to the rules.

 
It's a fantastic program in any case. 

Thanks!
Erik. 

Re: [Rails-users] Fw: [18xx] RAILS 18EU 1.3 Program Error

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Fixed, will be included in the next release. Thanks for the error report.
 
It turned out that an old (both bad and obsolete) method to detect bank
breaking was suppressing certain money transfers as long as the Bank has a
negative amount of cash.
This has now been cleaned up.
 
Erik.


  _____  

From: thomas wall hannaford, jr. [mailto:twa...@ya...] 
Sent: Friday 23 July 2010 21:19
To: rai...@li...
Cc: Paul A Zieske; James Romano
Subject: [Rails-users] Fw: [18xx] RAILS 18EU 1.3 Program Error


Folks, file 1528 is after the error occurred, while file 0306 is before the
error occurred but right after the bank broke.


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Cc: rai...@li...
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:15:16 PM
Subject: Re: [18xx] RAILS 18EU 1.3 Program Error

  

Thomas -

Thanks for the feedback!

We have a mailing list for exactly these sorts of questions and for
sending saved game files for analysis.

Please subscribe to the rails-users mailing list
(https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users) and send us
your saved game so that we can take a look at it.

---Brett.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr.
<twa...@ya... <mailto:twall1958%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> We're finishing a two-player 18EU using RAILS 1.3 and a program error
occurred.
>
> The bank has been broken (down to <130> by major#5 during OR6b which we're
> finishing with one company left to operate), and afterwards major#6 bought
into
> its treasury the last of its shares in the Pool; the share moved into the
> company treasury BUT the cash wasn't deducted from the treasury.
>
> I can email the game file to someone if they want to look at it.
>
> Also, have you considered adding to 'Game Options' the ability to
> increase/decrease the size of the bank used in playing a game?
>
>
>


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Re: [Rails-users] [18xx] RAILS 18EU 1.3 Program Error

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

Thomas -

Thanks for the feedback!

We have a mailing list for exactly these sorts of questions and for
sending saved game files for analysis.

Please subscribe to the rails-users mailing list
(https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users) and send us
your saved game so that we can take a look at it.

---Brett.



On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM, thomas wall hannaford, jr.
<twa...@ya...> wrote:
> We're finishing a two-player 18EU using RAILS 1.3 and a program error occurred.
>
> The bank has been broken (down to <130> by major#5 during OR6b which we're
> finishing with one company left to operate), and afterwards major#6 bought into
> its treasury the last of its shares in the Pool; the share moved into the
> company treasury BUT the cash wasn't deducted from the treasury.
>
> I can email the game file to someone if they want to look at it.
>
> Also, have you considered adding to 'Game Options' the ability to
> increase/decrease the size of the bank used in playing a game?
>
>
>

Re: [Rails-users] Rails help

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Terry,

Do you have any further information about the exact steps?  A screenshot of
an error message might help as well.  My first thought is have you tried
different locations to save the game within?  It may be that rails can't
save into a certain location for whatever reason

Phil

On 27 June 2010 16:57, Terry Laven <tj_...@ya...> wrote:

> I have downloaded and installed Rails and it seems to run well but on both
> computers I have tried it on, I get Save Failed - Access is Denied error
> message when trying to save a started game.
>
> One computer has Vista, the other has Win 7.  I run the program as an
> administrator.   Can anyone help?
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
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[Rails-users] Rails help

[Terry L. <tj_...@ya...>]

I have downloaded and installed Rails and it seems to run well but on both computers I have tried it on, I get Save Failed - Access is Denied error message when trying to save a started game.
 
One computer has Vista, the other has Win 7.  I run the program as an administrator.   Can anyone help?
 
Many thanks,


      

Re: [Rails-users] Permitted token placement in an upgraded NY hex with two cities but rail connection with only one city

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

On 2010-06-10 19:12, Jeff Feuer wrote:
> No, that's not his question or the issue.  It's about, for example, the
> first person to lay a tile in brown phase of 1830 upgrades the NYC hex
> so that both stations are double.  The corporation doing the upgrading
> is running the B & M or NY/NH and connects only to the northern NYC
> city.  Can a station marker be placed in the lower NYC city?  The track
> connects to the NYC hex, but only to the upper city, not the lower city.
> 
> In a game of 1835 ftf, I was running the Bayern and connected to the
> lower city hex of furth-nurnberg.  I was told I could put my station
> marker in the northern city.  Was that a special ability of a private
> company or can it generally be done.
> 
> It had nothing to do with disconnecting a token.  It was about adding a
> new token.

Still no.  You have to be connected to the station that will contain the new
token, unless you're using a "teleport" ability like the D&H, Waterloo, or
Pfalzbahnen.

Re: [Rails-users] Permitted token placement in an upgraded NY hex with two cities but rail connection with only one city

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

Jeff Feuer wrote:
> The same thing happened in a game of 1835 ftf, is the rule different in
> 1835?

To my knowledge it is the same in all games.  A tile upgrade can never cause a
token to cease to be connected to an edge of the tile it connected to before.

Re: [Rails-users] Permitted token placement in an upgraded NY hex with two cities but rail connection with only one city

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

Chip Welch wrote:
> I have a rules question that arose in an 1830 rails game I am playing. A
> friend had an existing line connected to the northern city in the NYC
> Hex but no connection to the southern city in the Hex. He upgraded it to
> a brown Hex with two spaces for tokens, but instead of placing his token
> in the northern NY city that was connected to his line, he placed the
> token in the southern NY city in the same hex even though there is no
> rail line connection to his existing lines. Rails allowed this token
> placement. He said that Rails offered him the option to place the token
> in either city, even though he had no rail connection to the other city.
> Is that token placement permitted under the rules?

Absolutely not.

Re: [Rails-users] Permitted token placement in an upgraded NY hex with two cities but rail connection with only one city

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

No, it is not. Rails does not enforce token placement rules yet.

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On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Chip Welch <chi...@ho...> wrote:

> I have a rules question that arose in an 1830 rails game I am  
> playing. A friend had an existing line connected to the northern  
> city in the NYC Hex but no connection to the southern city in the  
> Hex. He upgraded it to a brown Hex with two spaces for tokens, but  
> instead of placing his token in the northern NY city that was  
> connected to his line, he placed the token in the southern NY city  
> in the same hex even though there is no rail line connection to his  
> existing lines. Rails allowed this token placement. He said that  
> Rails offered him the option to place the token in either city, even  
> though he had no rail connection to the other city. Is that token  
> placement permitted under the rules?
>
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[Rails-users] Permitted token placement in an upgraded NY hex with two cities but rail connection with only one city

[Chip W. <chi...@ho...>]

I have a rules question that arose in an 1830 rails game I am playing. A friend had an existing line connected to the northern city in the NYC Hex but no connection to the southern city in the Hex. He upgraded it to a brown Hex with two spaces for tokens, but instead of placing his token in the northern NY city that was connected to his line, he placed the token in the southern NY city in the same hex even though there is no rail line connection to his existing lines. Rails allowed this token placement. He said that Rails offered him the option to place the token in either city, even though he had no rail connection to the other city. Is that token placement permitted under the rules?
 		 	   		  
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[Rails-users] 18EU Major Corporation formation and Pullmans

[Mike D. <Mi...@de...>]

Hi

I hope I'm in the correct place to report an issue we had with using the Rails app.

We had an issue playing 18EU, where a Major Corporation was formed by merging two Minor Corporations. Each of these Minors had a Pullman, so the Major ended the SR with two Pullmans. According to the rules, a corporation may only own one Pullman (4.4.9), so I believe that the Major should be forced to discard a Pullman at the end of the SR in which it was formed.

Thanks

Mike Deans

www.deans-inter.net

Re: [Rails-users] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:27 AM, brett lentz <bre...@gm...> wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.
>
> This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
> revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
> this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
> is.
>
> Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/
>
> ---Brett.
>

Apologies all around. An issue with my e-mail prevented me from
sending out a proper changelog with my announcement.

So, here is the changelog for 1.3:

* Tile and Token Laying
- Hexes which are eligible for tile and token lays are highlighted
- Only a game hint, not enforced.

* Revenue Calculation
- Maximum revenue for the owned trains is suggested
- Presetting for the revenue entry, has still to be confirmed or can be
adjusted
- Should incorporate all game specific rules, including bonus rules

* Map Correction
- Downgrade of tiles is now possible
- Only tile availability is checked, otherwise no restrictions are applied
- Tile lays that require the re-laying out of tokens are not possible

* General
- Prevent 'foreign' token being layed on reserved home token slots.
- Fixed bugs in OO-tile and token laying.
- Fixed occasional incorrect priority deal assignment after 1830-style auctions.
- Fixed disappearance of last (highest) train bought.
- Added option to fix tile orientation (used for 1835 Hamburg).

* 1830
- Fixed possibility of buying a Diesel at exchange price without an
exchange taking place.

* 1835
- Finished/Fixed Prussian formation
- Allow 100% share ownership and nationalization.
- Bugs in initial round player order (Clemens variant) and BY flotation.
- Added several variant options.

* 1856
- (also for 18EU) added (invisible) City object to Goderich/Hamburg tile to
facilitate revenue calculation.
- Fixed bug in effect of repeated 5% CGR share sales on share price.
- Fixed W&S token lay cost problem.

* 18EU
- Fixes for bankruptcy rules (not yet tested under all possible circumstances).

Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-announce] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

I have seen cases where saved files would not load because the D-train
exchange was executed (and recorded) incompletely: the D was obtained at the
exchange price, but the 4-(or whatever) train was not turned in. I have seen
this caused by pressing 'Cancel' on the which-train-to-exchange question.
This error has recently been fixed.

I don't know if this might explain your problem; if not, I'm willing to have
a look at your saved file to check why it fails. But I doubt if there is
much chance to rescue it.

Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Feuer [mailto:fe...@op...] 
Sent: Monday 31 May 2010 22:37
To: Stefan Frey
Cc: rai...@li...
Subject: Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-announce] Rails 1.3 is now available.

I tried starting at that point and replaying the missing moves and it 
still doesn't work.

I think the problem is that when I selected to exchange the 4 for the D, 
it doesn't save the fact into the log or something of what train was 
exchanged so that rails 1.3 knows what was exchanged when you load the 
save game.  It chose which train I wanted to exchange automatically (as 
that was the only train I had to exchange) but as it was automatic, that 
might be causing the bug of not saving which train was exchanged.

Jeff

Stefan Frey wrote:
> To avoid some disappointment with this release I will give some more hints
> what to expect.
>
> There has been some bug-fixes which can cause some save files to be 
> incompatible with the new release. Exchange of trains is one example.
> If such an error occurs either stay with the previous release or start at
that 
> point and replay the missing moves.
>
> Another thing to mention is that route and revenue calculation is disabled
by 
> default for save files from previous Rails version. This allows pbem users
to 
> update to that rails version for bug-fixes who do want to play with
automatic 
> game support turned on. For new games the default is to activate them, but

> each of them can be deactivated under the game options.
>
> And to finish here is that Erik has improved 1835 that it is ready for
serious 
> testing, but please do not start long-running pbems yet ;-)
>
> Stefan
>
> On Monday 31 May 2010 16:45:46 Jeff Feuer wrote:
>   
>> I just loaded up an 1830 save file in which I ended the previous OR by
>> exchanging a 4 train for a D.  When I make the move and save the file
>> (using either Rails 1.2.2 or Rails 1.3), Rails 1.3 says it's an illegal
>> move and rewinds the game back to the buy train step.  It's definitely
>> legal, and Rails 1.3 lets me do it, but it won't let me load up a save
>> containing the move.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> brett lentz wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.
>>>
>>> This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
>>> revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
>>> this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
>>> is.
>>>
>>> Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> ---Brett.
>>>
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Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-announce] Rails 1.3 is now available.

[Jeff F. <fe...@op...>]

I tried starting at that point and replaying the missing moves and it 
still doesn't work.

I think the problem is that when I selected to exchange the 4 for the D, 
it doesn't save the fact into the log or something of what train was 
exchanged so that rails 1.3 knows what was exchanged when you load the 
save game.  It chose which train I wanted to exchange automatically (as 
that was the only train I had to exchange) but as it was automatic, that 
might be causing the bug of not saving which train was exchanged.

Jeff

Stefan Frey wrote:
> To avoid some disappointment with this release I will give some more hints
> what to expect.
>
> There has been some bug-fixes which can cause some save files to be 
> incompatible with the new release. Exchange of trains is one example.
> If such an error occurs either stay with the previous release or start at that 
> point and replay the missing moves.
>
> Another thing to mention is that route and revenue calculation is disabled by 
> default for save files from previous Rails version. This allows pbem users to 
> update to that rails version for bug-fixes who do want to play with automatic 
> game support turned on. For new games the default is to activate them, but 
> each of them can be deactivated under the game options.
>
> And to finish here is that Erik has improved 1835 that it is ready for serious 
> testing, but please do not start long-running pbems yet ;-)
>
> Stefan
>
> On Monday 31 May 2010 16:45:46 Jeff Feuer wrote:
>   
>> I just loaded up an 1830 save file in which I ended the previous OR by
>> exchanging a 4 train for a D.  When I make the move and save the file
>> (using either Rails 1.2.2 or Rails 1.3), Rails 1.3 says it's an illegal
>> move and rewinds the game back to the buy train step.  It's definitely
>> legal, and Rails 1.3 lets me do it, but it won't let me load up a save
>> containing the move.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> brett lentz wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm pleased to announce that Rails 1.3 is now available.
>>>
>>> This release adds an initial implementation of automated route and
>>> revenue calculation as well as bug fixes for 1830, 1856, 1889. Also in
>>> this release is revised documentation on how well-supported each game
>>> is.
>>>
>>> Download the new release at http://rails.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> ---Brett.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> -----
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Rails-announce mailing list
>>> Rai...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-announce
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