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Re: [Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Mark,

Have you got a copy of the saved file where this is happening that you can
send through?  I launch saved files directly and haven't seen this issue
behaving differently.  I have seen the case of the map sections vanishing
(and I believe Erik and Stefan fixed a few cases where this happens prior to
1.4) but I'm surprised it's different to launched versus manually loading
the save file.

Phil

On 25 October 2010 21:41, Mark Hamzy <ha...@ya...> wrote:

> If a .rails file is associated to the rails.bat, it would be another
> instance (besides just plain running it from the command line), where that
> use case would occur.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Mark H. <ha...@ya...>]

If a .rails file is associated to the rails.bat, it would be another instance (besides just plain running it from the command line), where that use case would occur.

--

Mark



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Re: [Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I suspect that very few people load games via the command line.

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mark Hamzy <ha...@ya...> wrote:

> For me, it is a consistent and reproducible problem.  It almost caused me
> to not be able to play an 1830 game.  Until I found a work-around.  I am
> surprised that no one else sees this consistently.
>
> --
> Mark
>
> -----
> http://audio.hamzy.info/MandatoryBlackVelvetQualye.mp3
>
> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
> Worrying is praying for that you do not wish to happen.
>
> Home Page:    http://www.hamzy.info/
> Work Project: http://linux-ha.org/
>              http://omniprint.sourceforge.net/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> contest
> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
> marketing
> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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Re: [Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Mark H. <ha...@ya...>]

For me, it is a consistent and reproducible problem.  It almost caused me to not be able to play an 1830 game.  Until I found a work-around.  I am surprised that no one else sees this consistently.

--
Mark

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Re: [Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Aliza P. <ali...@gm...>]

I saw a similar thing in 1856.  I thought it was a Windws memory
management problem at the time.

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mark Hamzy <ha...@ya...> wrote:
> I am seeing an issue with the map not displaying the whole 1830 map on rails 1.4.  I can reproduce this problem both on Windows [Windows XP 2.14, Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)] and Linux [RHEL 5.5, OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)].
>
> If I play my turn via the command line rails.bat/sh and pass in the saved rails file, then I see the problem.  If I, instead, load the saved rails file from the "New Game" dialog, then I do not see the problem.
>
> The problem that I am seeing is that I only see half of the 1830 map.  I can force parts of the unseen map to redraw.  But I cannot lay a tile.  I see the following exception:
>
> Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException
>        at rails.ui.swing.hexmap.GUITile.<init>(GUITile.java:54)
>        at rails.ui.swing.hexmap.GUIHex.dropTile(GUIHex.java:766)
>        at rails.ui.swing.ORUIManager.tileSelected(ORUIManager.java:704)
>        at rails.ui.swing.UpgradesPanel.mouseClicked(UpgradesPanel.java:417)
>        at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseClicked(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
>
> Any ideas what might be wrong?
>
> --
> Mark
>
> -----
> http://audio.hamzy.info/MandatoryBlackVelvetQualye.mp3
>
> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
> Worrying is praying for that you do not wish to happen.
>
> Home Page:    http://www.hamzy.info/
> Work Project: http://linux-ha.org/
>              http://omniprint.sourceforge.net/
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest
> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users
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[Rails-users] 1.4, 1830, whole map not displaying

[Mark H. <ha...@ya...>]

I am seeing an issue with the map not displaying the whole 1830 map on rails 1.4.  I can reproduce this problem both on Windows [Windows XP 2.14, Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)] and Linux [RHEL 5.5, OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)].

If I play my turn via the command line rails.bat/sh and pass in the saved rails file, then I see the problem.  If I, instead, load the saved rails file from the "New Game" dialog, then I do not see the problem.

The problem that I am seeing is that I only see half of the 1830 map.  I can force parts of the unseen map to redraw.  But I cannot lay a tile.  I see the following exception:

Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException
        at rails.ui.swing.hexmap.GUITile.<init>(GUITile.java:54)
        at rails.ui.swing.hexmap.GUIHex.dropTile(GUIHex.java:766)
        at rails.ui.swing.ORUIManager.tileSelected(ORUIManager.java:704)
        at rails.ui.swing.UpgradesPanel.mouseClicked(UpgradesPanel.java:417)
        at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseClicked(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
        at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

Any ideas what might be wrong?

--
Mark

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[Rails-users] Map zoom seems broken

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

I have notice in v1.4 that when I try to Zoom -> In on the map... nothing
happens until the third time I select it... then it seems to jump to the
third Zoom level... then I can zoom out one or two steps. Just a minor
annoyance so no big deal. BTW: This happens on both my windows and mac
boxes.

Also, are there any plans to have rails save the window positions, sizes and
zoom level. This would help mucho, espessially since I can't just keep rails
open and load a new game file.

Thanks...

BOb

Re: [Rails-users] 1856 Map

[Aliza P. <ali...@gm...>]

The URL I sent you to the game map has a link on the side labelled
"stock market".

It's really much easier to get people to help answer your questions,
in the long term, if you show some willingness to try finding the
information for yourself first. There's a wealth of information about
the 18xx games on the Web...

 - Aliza

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> Cool... thanks for the link. Makes more sense now. I am doing my first play
> of 1856 and never saw the actual board. Also, where is the "closed" portion
> of the stock market? Have a link to an image of that?
> BOb
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Buffalo is a single red offboard that occupies two hexes.
>>
>> Lake Erie is the entire southern blue border.
>>
>> There are multiple versions of the 1856 map on the web, both scans and
>> redrawn copies.  One of the clearer ones is at
>> http://www.fwtwr.com/fwtwr/18xx/1856/map.asp
>>
>>  - Aliza
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>> > Is the 1856 map supposed to have two Buffalos? One at P17 and one at
>> > P19? I
>> > don't have the actual game so I'm not sure, but that seems wrong. Also,
>> > I
>> > can't find the Lake Erie... is one of the red hexes perhaps P19 going by
>> > real geography supposed to be labeled that?
>> > BOb
>> >
>
>

Re: [Rails-users] 1856 Map

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Cool... thanks for the link. Makes more sense now. I am doing my first play
of 1856 and never saw the actual board. Also, where is the "closed" portion
of the stock market? Have a link to an image of that?

BOb


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...>wrote:

> Buffalo is a single red offboard that occupies two hexes.
>
> Lake Erie is the entire southern blue border.
>
> There are multiple versions of the 1856 map on the web, both scans and
> redrawn copies.  One of the clearer ones is at
> http://www.fwtwr.com/fwtwr/18xx/1856/map.asp
>
>  - Aliza
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> > Is the 1856 map supposed to have two Buffalos? One at P17 and one at P19?
> I
> > don't have the actual game so I'm not sure, but that seems wrong. Also, I
> > can't find the Lake Erie... is one of the red hexes perhaps P19 going by
> > real geography supposed to be labeled that?
> > BOb
> >
>

Re: [Rails-users] 1856 Map

[Aliza P. <ali...@gm...>]

Buffalo is a single red offboard that occupies two hexes.

Lake Erie is the entire southern blue border.

There are multiple versions of the 1856 map on the web, both scans and
redrawn copies.  One of the clearer ones is at
http://www.fwtwr.com/fwtwr/18xx/1856/map.asp

 - Aliza

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> Is the 1856 map supposed to have two Buffalos? One at P17 and one at P19? I
> don't have the actual game so I'm not sure, but that seems wrong. Also, I
> can't find the Lake Erie... is one of the red hexes perhaps P19 going by
> real geography supposed to be labeled that?
> BOb
>

[Rails-users] 1856 Map

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Is the 1856 map supposed to have two Buffalos? One at P17 and one at P19? I
don't have the actual game so I'm not sure, but that seems wrong. Also, I
can't find the Lake Erie... is one of the red hexes perhaps P19 going by
real geography supposed to be labeled that?

BOb

Re: [Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

I'm not a Mac guy so don't know the exact process on a Mac, but rails
will use the first argument on the command line as a save file to
load, for example:

java -jar rails-1.4.jar 1830_20100915_1320_Phil.rails

on windows will load straight into rails from the savefile
'1830_20100915_1320_Phil.rails' from the rails directory.  What you
will need to therefore do (for whatever OS you use) is associate
.rails files with the binary to launch the Java runtime (java.exe in
the case of windows) followed by '-jar' then followed by the full path
to the rails-1.4.jar, the have your OS put the full path to the .rails
file you just clicked on as the next argument.  Then it will work.

Annoyingly you will have to update this file association for each new
revision of rails but that's a reasonably simple process where Windows
is concerned.

I might fire up the drastically out of date MacMini tonight and see if
I can work out how to do it on that but hopefully this info will help
a more Macsavvy person to find the correct process :)

Phil


On 15 September 2010 13:52, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
> I'm sure there is a way, I just don't know it... I've never developed in
> java.
> It would be really nice if a Mac app packager could be made so you could do
> this. From what I am reading it isn't too difficult to do... and there are
> some Ant tasks available to make it easy. Perhaps I can look at it this
> weekend. What OS is rails built on?
> I agree... if at least you could load a new game without closing and
> re-opening the app it would be nice. I currently have 4 games in progress so
> it is a bit awkward now.
> BOb
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, you can't do that.  The rails.command file just opens rails in the
>> correct directory, saving time navigating to find things.
>>
>> Best I can tell, you can't do it on Windows or Linux either.  This,
>> combined with being unable to close a game without closing the entire
>> program, is the single biggest usability problem with Rails.
>>
>> --
>> Chris
>>
>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Thanks for the help. I'm not sure I 100% get what you are saying. Take
>>> the rails.command file and set it to open with terminal.
>>> Now, I still can't association .rails files with this command file.
>>> What am I missing?
>>> Just to clarify, I want to be able to double-click on the saved game
>>> file, the 18xx_Time_Name.rails file and have it opened with rails rather
>>> than have to use the load command every time.
>>> BOb
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rename the file with a .command extension.  Open file properties using
>>>> apple-i.  Set to Open with "terminal."
>>>>
>>>> You also need to set the working directory in the file itself.  I've
>>>> attached an example file for your use.  Replace username and edit the path
>>>> as needed.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a
>>>>> .rails file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't
>>>>> let me associate the files with it.
>>>>> BOb
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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Re: [Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

I'm sure there is a way, I just don't know it... I've never developed in
java.

It would be really nice if a Mac app packager could be made so you could do
this. From what I am reading it isn't too difficult to do... and there are
some Ant tasks available to make it easy. Perhaps I can look at it this
weekend. What OS is rails built on?

I agree... if at least you could load a new game without closing and
re-opening the app it would be nice. I currently have 4 games in progress so
it is a bit awkward now.

BOb


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:

> Sorry, you can't do that.  The rails.command file just opens rails in the
> correct directory, saving time navigating to find things.
>
> Best I can tell, you can't do it on Windows or Linux either.  This,
> combined with being unable to close a game without closing the entire
> program, is the single biggest usability problem with Rails.
>
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for the help. I'm not sure I 100% get what you are saying. Take the
>> rails.command file and set it to open with terminal.
>>
>> Now, I still can't association .rails files with this command file.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Just to clarify, I want to be able to double-click on the saved game file,
>> the 18xx_Time_Name.rails file and have it opened with rails rather than have
>> to use the load command every time.
>>
>> BOb
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:
>>
>>> Rename the file with a .command extension.  Open file properties using
>>> apple-i.  Set to Open with "terminal."
>>>
>>> You also need to set the working directory in the file itself.  I've
>>> attached an example file for your use.  Replace username and edit the path
>>> as needed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a
>>>> .rails file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't
>>>> let me associate the files with it.
>>>>
>>>> BOb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>>>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>>>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Rai...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Steve U. <ste...@gm...>]

You _can_ do it in Linux (I've got my Ubuntu box set up to do it).

Not much help to Mac users, I know.

Steve Undy
st...@ro...


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:

> Sorry, you can't do that.  The rails.command file just opens rails in the
> correct directory, saving time navigating to find things.
>
> Best I can tell, you can't do it on Windows or Linux either.  This,
> combined with being unable to close a game without closing the entire
> program, is the single biggest usability problem with Rails.
>
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for the help. I'm not sure I 100% get what you are saying. Take the
>> rails.command file and set it to open with terminal.
>>
>> Now, I still can't association .rails files with this command file.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Just to clarify, I want to be able to double-click on the saved game file,
>> the 18xx_Time_Name.rails file and have it opened with rails rather than have
>> to use the load command every time.
>>
>> BOb
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:
>>
>>> Rename the file with a .command extension.  Open file properties using
>>> apple-i.  Set to Open with "terminal."
>>>
>>> You also need to set the working directory in the file itself.  I've
>>> attached an example file for your use.  Replace username and edit the path
>>> as needed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a
>>>> .rails file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't
>>>> let me associate the files with it.
>>>>
>>>> BOb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>>>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>>>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Rails-users mailing list
>>>> Rai...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>

Re: [Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

Sorry, you can't do that.  The rails.command file just opens rails in the
correct directory, saving time navigating to find things.

Best I can tell, you can't do it on Windows or Linux either.  This, combined
with being unable to close a game without closing the entire program, is the
single biggest usability problem with Rails.

--
Chris

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Thanks for the help. I'm not sure I 100% get what you are saying. Take the
> rails.command file and set it to open with terminal.
>
> Now, I still can't association .rails files with this command file.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Just to clarify, I want to be able to double-click on the saved game file,
> the 18xx_Time_Name.rails file and have it opened with rails rather than have
> to use the load command every time.
>
> BOb
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:
>
>> Rename the file with a .command extension.  Open file properties using
>> apple-i.  Set to Open with "terminal."
>>
>> You also need to set the working directory in the file itself.  I've
>> attached an example file for your use.  Replace username and edit the path
>> as needed.
>>
>> --
>> Chris
>>
>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>>
>>>  Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a .rails
>>> file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't let me
>>> associate the files with it.
>>>
>>> BOb
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Chris,

Thanks for the help. I'm not sure I 100% get what you are saying. Take the
rails.command file and set it to open with terminal.

Now, I still can't association .rails files with this command file.

What am I missing?

Just to clarify, I want to be able to double-click on the saved game file,
the 18xx_Time_Name.rails file and have it opened with rails rather than have
to use the load command every time.

BOb

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:

> Rename the file with a .command extension.  Open file properties using
> apple-i.  Set to Open with "terminal."
>
> You also need to set the working directory in the file itself.  I've
> attached an example file for your use.  Replace username and edit the path
> as needed.
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@ar...> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a .rails
>> file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't let me
>> associate the files with it.
>>
>> BOb
>>
>>
>>
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[Rails-users] Open in Mac

[Bob A. <bo...@ar...>]

Does anyone know how I can set up my Mac so when I double-click a .rails
file it will open in rails. Since .jar isn't an executable it won't let me
associate the files with it.

BOb

[Rails-users] Trains on open market not available on rails (1856)

[Carlos M. S. <car...@gm...>]

Hi guys,

Me and three other guys just played our first game of 1856 and we used rails
(initially in rails 1.3 and later in rails 1.4) in hotseat mode.

We played normally until one of the public companies, LPS, went bust and
according to the rules, their trains should go onto the open market so that
any other public company can buy them. The problem is that we saw no way of
being able to purchase them in rails 1.3 or 1.4. When during an operating
round we clicked on the Buy Train button, the drop-down list only showed the
available trains from other public companies and not also the ones from the
open market.

What are we doing wrong?

Thank you so much.

Best regards,

Carlos

Re: [Rails-users] 18EU save/load issue

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

General Remark to all users:
It is highly recommended to upgrade to the new version 1.4., especially for 
those playing games which include a Diesel train (1830, 1856, 1889) and 18EU 
due to important bug-fixes.
If your latest game file is loadable in 1.4. it is much safer to continue play 
with the up-to-date release.

Hi Mike,
that is a known bug, which was fixed in 1.4.
Unfortunately the save file is not reloadable in 1.4. either, as this was 
prevented by a bug fix during the 18EU auction.
As you submitted your game file already (see previous e-mail), it was very 
easy to fix that issue and I have a working 18EU file attached.
Stefan

On Friday, September 03, 2010 06:05:08 am Mike Deans wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We're having a problem with our 18EU game, where we're unable to open the
> game file, getting the error 'Load failed, reason: Reload failure'.
> Attached is the last position which we can open,
> '18EU_20100902_1517_JD.rails'
> 
> It's JD's turn, and he opens KBS @$100, placing a token in Berlin. He then
> saves the game, using the default naming - 
> '18EU_20100902_1620_Mike.rails'. So far no-one has been able to open that
> save file, which is also attached.
> 
> All players have the same problem, and we've tried v1.2.2 and v1.3. I've
> also tried a fresh download of 1.2.2, but still get the same problem. I've
> also had someone outside the game try the file, and they're seeing the
> same behavior.
> 
> I'll pass it over to the experts. :)
> 
> Mike
> 
> www.deans-inter.net

[Rails-users] 18EU save/load issue

[Mike D. <mi...@de...>]

Hi

We're having a problem with our 18EU game, where we're unable to open the game file, getting the error 'Load failed, reason: Reload failure'. Attached is the last position which we can open, '18EU_20100902_1517_JD.rails'

It's JD's turn, and he opens KBS @$100, placing a token in Berlin. He then saves the game, using the default naming -  '18EU_20100902_1620_Mike.rails'. So far no-one has been able to open that save file, which is also attached.

All players have the same problem, and we've tried v1.2.2 and v1.3. I've also tried a fresh download of 1.2.2, but still get the same problem. I've also had someone outside the game try the file, and they're seeing the same behavior.

I'll pass it over to the experts. :)

Mike

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Re: [Rails-users] [Rails-devel] rails' user properties

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

To Jim and all (pbem) users in general:

Some comments about some choices for the new version:

1) Configuration profiles and files:

I took the deliberate decision that each profile is always linked to 
a configuration file: Rails does not allow the application of a profile 
without providing a storage location. 

This might surprise users a little, the reason for this is easy: Otherwise it 
cannot be guaranteed, that settings are still available next time.

To simplify the usage the profile/file combinations are stored automatically 
to the working directory of rails (if this is writable for Rails).

Another advantage is that this allows even to run Rails out of dropbox and 
each user can still define its own profile and profile location.

This profile can be selected by adding a -Dprofile={profilename} 
(e.g. -Dprofile=myOwnProfile) to the start command for Rails. 

Remark: If someone uses the old configuration (my.properties) files, they can 
be imported directly from the configuration window. The support of those will 
end from the next version on. 

2) Game history

Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the comment. 
So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is attributed 
to the last action owner.

Going back in game history is similar to the one already available in Rails: 
Crossing the boundaries of players/companies requires a "forced undo".
As soon as game position in the game history is selected that crosses this 
boundary, all Rails windows are disabled and one has to issue the additional 
command "play from here". Another advantage from my point of view is that it 
avoids accidentally restarting at a past situation without that intention.

Any comments or proposal for change are welcome.

Stefan


On Thursday, August 19, 2010 08:12:25 pm Jim Black wrote:
> I noticed that there's been substantial effort to add a
> configuration/properties system to Rails, and also look forward to seeing
> this in the next update.
> 
> (I think the most critical update is the fix of the diesel-upgrade/tradein
> bug, fwiw-  we always need to downgrade to 1.2.2 when the diesels come
> out, which disables the most useful/difficult phase of 1.3's automated
> route-calculation.)
> 
> Along the lines of user preferences and properties, here's some more
> comments re: differences from a pbem user to a hotseat/moderator user--
> 
> - I load pbem Rails games, from my dropbox, all day.  The usage pattern is:
>  launch rails, load game file (the last two can be munged), make move,
> save game file, exit rails.
> 
> ==>  Note that loading/exiting rails for each game is awkward (and
> unusual)- I'd rather leave it running all day- loading games as they're
> updated, saving & moving on to the next game, etc.
> 
> - Also, once I load a game within Rails, I repeat my next sequence of
> operations too:  I open most of the separate Rails game windows (map,
> stock-chart, report window), and, resize and position these windows for my
> current display.
> 
> ==>  Note that having to reconfigure my desktop for each game is also
> awkward- I wish Rails maintained a record of my last window layout for
> each title/game- and. defaulted to that, when I [re-]load that title/game.
> 
> For extra credit, it should keep separate copies for different display
> sizes- during the day, we may switch computers, or, we may simply switch a
> laptops from the builtin display, to a larger external display.  (These
> things directly affect the way we config our windows, for each particular
> title.)
> 
> There's nothing magic about any of this- but the awkward thing is, we have
> to repeat these exact little steps, /all day long/, in many standalone
> Rails sessions.  It gets tedious to do these same tweaks every time we
> reload a game- it would be great if Rails just remembered our last window
> placements for each title (or, game), and little desktop stuff like that.
> 
> best,
>  - jim
> 
> 
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Re: [Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Actually there have two changes to the 18EU initial sale of minors:

1) A bug fix: Skipping the players who already passed in a started (English) 
auction. Different to other 18xx the 18EU rules explicitly define that passing 
players leave that auction. This potentially makes old save files invalid. 
Players should finish with Rails 1.3. 
 
2) A requested feature: Player, who have the sole option "pass" (due to 
insufficient funds remaining), have that action selected automatically. This 
does NOT impact old save files. 
This is implemented on the GameManager level, thus should also work on other 
occasions (but not in the StockRound as here the (manual) autopass option is 
available in addition to the standard pass).

To confirm that 2) was not the reason for the problem, I removed the 
superfluous passes from the save file and it is now loadable with Rails 1.4.
I have attached that Rails 1.4 compatible file, if Mike wants to continue with 
the new version.

Stefan

On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:44:47 pm Erik Vos wrote:
> Ah good.
> 
> I just was investigating, and I noticed that the game you attached was
> saved with version 1.2.2, which is pretty aged by now. I suspect the
> problem was caused by a difference in handling players who have previously
> passed in an auction in later turns: in your saved game a 'pass' was
> recorded for each such player, whereas the new version just skips such
> players. So the new version got completely confused who's turn it was in
> the initial round.
> 
> It looks like that the acting player isn't checked in this (or perhaps any)
> initial round. That needs to be fixed.
> 
> Erik.
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: Mike Deans [mailto:mi...@de...]
> Sent: Sunday 29 August 2010 21:04
> To: Mike Deans
> Cc: rai...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue
> 
> 
> Hi again
> 
> OK, resolved the issue. I was trying to share v1.3 and v1.4 in the same
> folder and I was getting a conflict. I'm going to have to split them off
> more.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> www.deans-inter.net

Re: [Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Ah good.
 
I just was investigating, and I noticed that the game you attached was saved
with version 1.2.2, which is pretty aged by now. I suspect the problem was
caused by a difference in handling players who have previously passed in an
auction in later turns: in your saved game a 'pass' was recorded for each
such player, whereas the new version just skips such players. So the new
version got completely confused who's turn it was in the initial round.
 
It looks like that the acting player isn't checked in this (or perhaps any)
initial round. That needs to be fixed.
 
Erik.


  _____  

From: Mike Deans [mailto:mi...@de...] 
Sent: Sunday 29 August 2010 21:04
To: Mike Deans
Cc: rai...@li...
Subject: Re: [Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue


Hi again 

OK, resolved the issue. I was trying to share v1.3 and v1.4 in the same
folder and I was getting a conflict. I'm going to have to split them off
more.

Mike




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Re: [Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue

[Mike D. <mi...@de...>]

Hi again

OK, resolved the issue. I was trying to share v1.3 and v1.4 in the same folder and I was getting a conflict. I'm going to have to split them off more.

Mike

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[Rails-users] v1.4 18EU load issue

[Mike D. <mi...@de...>]

Hi

I was testing the new v1.4, and it had an issue opening our ongoing 18EU game, on a Mac OSX 10.6.4. It complained about an invalid purchase in the start of the game, then displayed a blank window, that couldn't be closed via the normal red button/icon. Only option was a command-q.

I've attached the game file.

Mike

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