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From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-09-04 09:27:14
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Hi, The pdb2csv and csv2pdb programs are in the package palm-db-tools, which is found at palm-db-tools.sf.net. You will probably want to apply a patch I wrote that keeps also filters, at <http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi/palm-db-tools-with-filters-and-scripts.patch>. The easiest way to use these programs is not to write the csv/inf by yourself, but to create your DB in pilot-db, then use pdb2csv as pdb2csv file.pdb file.csv file.inf edit file.csv and file.inf, then csv2pdb -i file.inf file.csv file.pdb and install file.pdb back into your pilot. Good luck, -- Didi |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-09-04 00:28:08
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Sorry, to add more to this, perhaps someone could describe the command to do make the appropriate fieldnames for a CSV file that looks like lastname,firstname,id tsang,madoc,1 doe,john,1 doe,jane,1 Thank you. > > Does this program convert the csv to pilot-db format? Or is there even a > difference in that? > > If so, does anyone know the command? or where to get this program? > > Thank you > > -- > Madoc Tsang > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Pilot-db-list mailing list > Pil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pilot-db-list > -- Madoc Tsang |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-09-04 00:06:49
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Does this program convert the csv to pilot-db format? Or is there even a difference in that? If so, does anyone know the command? or where to get this program? Thank you -- Madoc Tsang |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-09-03 18:33:57
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I start w/ a CSV database w/ ScheduleDB: ID ServiceID AttendanceCode QuantityUnits TimeIn TimeOut Date 123 1 3 10 3:00 5:00 8/2/04 I have entries for these already that give a specific time some ID person is supposed to be in out and also a lot of other relevant information. All of these are defaulted to String when I use DB Editor to import a CSV file. What I did, was on the palm pilot, Change ID, ServiceID, AttendanceCode and QuantityUnits to type link to 4 other databases. nameDB: ID Lastname Firstname serviceDB: SID SName attendanceDB: AID AName unitDB: UID UName These databases also have predetermined values. I then added 5 fields all of linked (Lastname, Firstname, ServiceName, AttendName, UnitName) I did it this way because I wanted to be able to get a CSV with a schedule already in there, and be able to create a View that is more user friendly. ID Lastname Firstname SID AID UID TimeI TimeO Date SName AName UName NOW, all the links are linked, and the linked are linked. When I am in any View, even the All one, the values of Lastname, Firstname, SName, AName, and UName do not show up. When I select a row to edit, the values do show up, and it asks me if I want to save. I know the link/linked are ok. What I want to do is find a way to have it appear without having to select every row and saving it. > Hi Madoc, > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 08:53:53AM -0700, Madoc Tsang wrote: >> Hello, >> >> My set up is to have 5 different databases. >> 4 of them are just for reference. >> >> I set up "link"s for the IDs contained in the 5th to the other 4. >> I created new fields and "linked" to the "link"s I have. >> >> When i am viewing the entries by just selecting this database, I am left >> with my original information (which is all information I need), but the >> new "linked" fields I created are empty. (which is probably >> understandable >> with the way I created this database). What I would like is to be able >> to >> have all of those empty fields be set up. >> >> Is there any program I can use that will do this? Or is it possible that >> anyone knows which file/line of the CVS version of pilot-db contains the >> correct code to determines the values of "linked" fields like editing a >> row does? When I select a row to view/edit, the correct values are in >> that, In which case it will ask me to save. >> >> To wrap this up, I'm trying to have that already there to make it more >> user friendly for someone who doesn't know how to use the palm pilot >> well, >> or for someone who doesn't want to have to click through all of them to >> get the correct entries? Maybe there's a program that could rebuild the >> database? > > I must sadly say I did not completely understand your problem, but if > rebuilding the database would help, it's already there - it's in the > menu. If it's not enough, can you give a detailed example? Maybe your > DBs with only 1-2 fictitious rows and a list of operations to try? > -- > Didi > > -- Madoc Tsang |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-09-03 18:23:45
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Hi Madoc, On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 08:53:53AM -0700, Madoc Tsang wrote: > Hello, > > My set up is to have 5 different databases. > 4 of them are just for reference. > > I set up "link"s for the IDs contained in the 5th to the other 4. > I created new fields and "linked" to the "link"s I have. > > When i am viewing the entries by just selecting this database, I am left > with my original information (which is all information I need), but the > new "linked" fields I created are empty. (which is probably understandable > with the way I created this database). What I would like is to be able to > have all of those empty fields be set up. > > Is there any program I can use that will do this? Or is it possible that > anyone knows which file/line of the CVS version of pilot-db contains the > correct code to determines the values of "linked" fields like editing a > row does? When I select a row to view/edit, the correct values are in > that, In which case it will ask me to save. > > To wrap this up, I'm trying to have that already there to make it more > user friendly for someone who doesn't know how to use the palm pilot well, > or for someone who doesn't want to have to click through all of them to > get the correct entries? Maybe there's a program that could rebuild the > database? I must sadly say I did not completely understand your problem, but if rebuilding the database would help, it's already there - it's in the menu. If it's not enough, can you give a detailed example? Maybe your DBs with only 1-2 fictitious rows and a list of operations to try? -- Didi |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-09-03 16:02:44
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Hello, My set up is to have 5 different databases. 4 of them are just for reference. I set up "link"s for the IDs contained in the 5th to the other 4. I created new fields and "linked" to the "link"s I have. When i am viewing the entries by just selecting this database, I am left with my original information (which is all information I need), but the new "linked" fields I created are empty. (which is probably understandable with the way I created this database). What I would like is to be able to have all of those empty fields be set up. Is there any program I can use that will do this? Or is it possible that anyone knows which file/line of the CVS version of pilot-db contains the correct code to determines the values of "linked" fields like editing a row does? When I select a row to view/edit, the correct values are in that, In which case it will ask me to save. To wrap this up, I'm trying to have that already there to make it more user friendly for someone who doesn't know how to use the palm pilot well, or for someone who doesn't want to have to click through all of them to get the correct entries? Maybe there's a program that could rebuild the database? Thanks in advance. -- Madoc Tsang |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-09-01 00:39:29
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Is there a way to compile db.prc w/ "Enable global Find support", "Open databases Read/Write", "Use filters when possible" also set to default on like "Run plugins automatically" is? Thanks -- Madoc Tsang |
From: marc\.chalain\@laposte\.net <mar...@la...> - 2004-08-31 17:10:35
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I'm sure that csv2pdb does it, i think that the excel sheet does it too, and perhaps dbeditor too.=0A=0AAcc=E9dez au courrier =E9lect= ronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; =0A3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34=80/mn) ;= t=E9l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34=80/mn)=0A=0A |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-08-31 16:03:55
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So you mean jpilot or dbeditor? Or some other pc tools? > The Read-Only bit is only modifiable with the PC tools. > >> I have a few databases which I want to only be able to read > from, because >> I am trying to develop a device for a novice user to use, > and I do not >> want them to be able to delete any of the entries inside. I > also want to >> be able to add to this same database, or perhaps make the > seperate >> database to store the new entries? >> >> Is this possible? And if so, how? >> >> I'm using the current cvs version. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> >> -- >> Madoc Tsang >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >> FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >> Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Pilot-db-list mailing list >> Pil...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pilot-db-list >> > > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; > 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) > > > > -- Madoc Tsang 510-986-6700 x302 |
From: marc\.chalain <mar...@la...> - 2004-08-31 09:50:46
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The Read-Only bit is only modifiable with the PC tools. > I have a few databases which I want to only be able to read from, because > I am trying to develop a device for a novice user to use, and I do not > want them to be able to delete any of the entries inside. I also want to > be able to add to this same database, or perhaps make the seperate > database to store the new entries? > > Is this possible? And if so, how? > > I'm using the current cvs version. > > Thank you very much. > > > -- > Madoc Tsang > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Pilot-db-list mailing list > Pil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pilot-db-list > =0A=0AAcc=E9dez au courrier =E9lectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.ne= t ; =0A3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34=80/mn) ; t=E9l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34=80/mn)= =0A=0A |
From: Madoc T. <ma...@rt...> - 2004-08-31 01:21:27
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I have a few databases which I want to only be able to read from, because I am trying to develop a device for a novice user to use, and I do not want them to be able to delete any of the entries inside. I also want to be able to add to this same database, or perhaps make the seperate database to store the new entries? Is this possible? And if so, how? I'm using the current cvs version. Thank you very much. -- Madoc Tsang |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-08-30 20:33:24
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On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 02:41:50PM -0300, cybersamurai wrote: > Some questions: > > How can I make a relation between two tables? Can you be more specific? This is a weak poing in pilot-db, the main thing is "link" and "linked" fields. Try to play with them. > > Is possible I make a program in C or C++ and access some API for work with data make with Pilot-DB? On a PALM? I don't know. On a PC? You can use palm-db-tools. While not properly documented and not separatly packaged, it is divided to a few libraries and two main programs. Note that I recently wrote a patch that makes it read/write some more data, which is, for now, only at <http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi/palm-db-tools-with-filters-and-scripts.patch>. Nate says we need to adopt here palm-db-tools and apply the patch. Maybe I'll soon do this. > > Can I make a simple form for insert data and make some search? On a PALM? There are already forms for this. If they are not good enough you'll have to fix them :-) On a PC? You can try using the lib parts of palm-db-tools, as I wrote above, but I think it's easier to convert the data to some SQL DB and write an interface to it. I intended to work on this, and know others did, but didn't do anything generally-useful (except the above patch, which helps make this possible). > > The source is good documented? I do not know. I only read parts of it, and managed to survive. You can look at my patch to see what I had to change, it will probably give you some hints at its structure. pilot-db's source - I only read parts and wrote one-liner fixes. I do not know if it's easy to make big changes to it. > > Thanks about some help. Good luck, -- Didi |
From: cybersamurai <cyb...@te...> - 2004-08-30 17:41:55
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Some questions: How can I make a relation between two tables? Is possible I make a program in C or C++ and access some API for work wit= h data make with Pilot-DB? Can I make a simple form for insert data and make some search? The source is good documented? Thanks about some help. |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-08-26 18:26:32
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:57:18AM -0700, Arlie Codina wrote: > Hi, > > How do you display column totals? Please read the file docs/script-tutorial.txt, it has an example on how to do this. If you still have problems tell us what you tried and didn't work. Good luck, -- Didi |
From: Arlie C. <arl...@ya...> - 2004-08-26 09:57:26
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Hi, How do you display column totals? Regards, Arlie C. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-08-16 09:22:46
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 02:27:52AM -0600, Nathan Kurz wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 03:04:12PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > I now spent some time on this again. After looking at various other > > options, I decided the fastest will be to fix palm-db-tools, and not > > rewrite it in some other language as I suggested in the past. So I > > sat down and did it. > > Thanks Didi! Welcome. It was quite fun to do actually. My main bug was not writing a "=" operator in a class I added, and loosing parts of it. Did I say I don't know C++? I consulted a friend (Alon Shalita) who helped me with this, and the rest was just usual writing/debugging. > > > Where should this be maintained? palm-db-tools.sf.net seems dead to me. > > I think pilot-db.sf.net would be a fine place for it. In my mind it > would simplify things to collect them all together there. Feel free > to add it as a release there, or I'll be able to do it in a while. Maybe I will, not in the next few days. I'll tell you when I have more time again. > > [By the way, I'm back from an interesting but wearying month of > travelling through China. (Wow! That wasn't the China I was > expecting.) I haven't had a chance to think about pilot-db yet, and > might not for a few more weeks. My current spare time project is > figuring out how to make a DVD out of some video footage I took while > there. But once that's done, I'll have some time for pilot-db again.] Good to have you back, -- Didi |
From: Nathan K. <na...@ve...> - 2004-08-16 08:55:53
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On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 03:04:12PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > I now spent some time on this again. After looking at various other > options, I decided the fastest will be to fix palm-db-tools, and not > rewrite it in some other language as I suggested in the past. So I > sat down and did it. Thanks Didi! > Where should this be maintained? palm-db-tools.sf.net seems dead to me. I think pilot-db.sf.net would be a fine place for it. In my mind it would simplify things to collect them all together there. Feel free to add it as a release there, or I'll be able to do it in a while. [By the way, I'm back from an interesting but wearying month of travelling through China. (Wow! That wasn't the China I was expecting.) I haven't had a chance to think about pilot-db yet, and might not for a few more weeks. My current spare time project is figuring out how to make a DVD out of some video footage I took while there. But once that's done, I'll have some time for pilot-db again.] --nate |
From: Dennis M. <dmc...@ny...> - 2004-08-12 00:05:29
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> -----Original Message----- > From: pil...@li... > [mailto:pil...@li...]On Behalf > Of Yedidyah > Bar-David > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:04 AM > To: Pilot-DB List > Subject: [pilot-db-list] palm-db-tools - take two > > Does anyone have recommendations/opinions about how to edit the csv on > the PC? Besides the obvious excell/openoffice, that is. Something that > will have the snappiness and features of pilot-db (and I can say that > in my experience most web apps aren't as fast and convinient), and will > be multiuser? I know this was discussed in the past here, but it was > theoretic. Now, with a working palm-db-tools, it's closer to reality. There are a couple of tools I've been using to do this sort of manipulation on the PC. Sam Franke has an interesting product called CSVed, designed to edit and manipulate CSV files. CSVed replaces an earlier product of his called CSVdb. From the website: some features: * edit, add, insert and delete items * import * change separator * add, delete columns * rearrange column order * save selection of rows and columns * save filtered items * save with double quotes * search and replace * filter items * remove duplicates * append and merge files * install and uninstall * help in English * add prefix and suffix * split and join columns * export to HTML, Excel, Word, XML and more * proper words and strings * column search * column sort CSVed is currently at v1.11. Go to http://home.hccnet.nl/s.j.francke/t2t/text2table.htm for information and downloads. Rafael Fetzer has a product called DB-Editor, specifically intended for manipulating Pilot-DB databases under Windows on a PC. It can import from a variety of sources, including Excel files, CSV files, and JFile/MobileDB databases among others, and appears to support all current Pilot-DB field types. DB-Editor is at version 0.7.4.0. Rafael also produces PDFConverter, a Windows tool for converting text or HTML files to Palm doc, zText, or Plucker format, and PalmXP, a Windows file manager for browsing Palm files on the PC that understands and can display Palm specific file attributes. Go to http://www.jakewalk.de/palm/dbeditor_e.html for information and downloads. Both products are freeware, but not open source. I have no idea how they behave in a multi-user environment. > Thanks, > -- > Didi ______ Dennis |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-08-11 12:05:58
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Hi all, I now spent some time on this again. After looking at various other options, I decided the fastest will be to fix palm-db-tools, and not rewrite it in some other language as I suggested in the past. So I sat down and did it. You can find in <http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi/palm-db-tools-with-filters-and-scripts.patch> a patch that allows pdb2csv and csv2pdb export and import the following: Global scripts Filters (both simple and advanced) The "formula" of a calculated field Note that it does not (yet?) interpret the bytecode, only stores it. So you can't edit it on a PC. But you can do the following: 1. pdb2csv 2. edit the csv with whatever tool you want 3. csv2pdb sync the pdb, "Rebuild Database", and have everything working, with all you filters and scripts. You can't, for obvious reasons, change the structure of the DB on the PC, as the scripts contain references to columns by their index. Still, it's a start. Is anyone interested? Is anyone interested in interpreting formulas on a PC? Of course it's more convinient, and also allows things like creating SQL views based on your filters, but it's more work. Where should this be maintained? palm-db-tools.sf.net seems dead to me. Does anyone have recommendations/opinions about how to edit the csv on the PC? Besides the obvious excell/openoffice, that is. Something that will have the snappiness and features of pilot-db (and I can say that in my experience most web apps aren't as fast and convinient), and will be multiuser? I know this was discussed in the past here, but it was theoretic. Now, with a working palm-db-tools, it's closer to reality. Thanks, -- Didi |
From: Mr C. R G. <ori...@ya...> - 2004-08-09 19:21:11
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Hello, I just installed the newest version, 1.1 and immediately following the install, I get a message 'Mathlib Disabled' and 'Help.rcp' not found. I assume the Help.rcp is a Help file and since I have the online manual, have decided not to add it to my handheld device. This won't present any other conflict, will it? Why would the new version disable my 'Mathlib' file? My RAM based calculator still works fine, but I've now discovered, the checkboxes I've put into a couple databases, no longer respond. Assume that's due to the '0' or '1' compaison routine from the Boolean file type? But not only was the Mathlib disabled, I could not find it on my Palm at all. What has to be done to re-enable this app? I've reinstalled the file from my backup folder but still do not get a response when the checkboxes and checked. Thank you. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! |
From: marc\.chalain <mar...@la...> - 2004-08-09 07:00:29
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another way it's to use the "note" field. You can use the first line of t= he note as "subject", which will be displaid in the main screen of the re= cord. > Hi, > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Arlie Codina wrote: > > Hi is there anyway I could display my data in a header > > and detail format similar to a receipt or invoice? > > You can create two databases, header and details, and make one > field in header be of type "link" to a row in the details DB. > -- > Didi > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on= > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technolog= y > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > _______________________________________________ > Pilot-db-list mailing list > Pil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pilot-db-list=0A=0AAcc=E9d= ez au courrier =E9lectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; =0A3615 LAP= OSTENET (0,34=80/mn) ; t=E9l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34=80/mn)=0A=0A |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-08-09 06:20:30
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Hi, On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Arlie Codina wrote: > Hi is there anyway I could display my data in a header > and detail format similar to a receipt or invoice? You can create two databases, header and details, and make one field in header be of type "link" to a row in the details DB. -- Didi |
From: Arlie C. <arl...@ya...> - 2004-08-09 02:40:10
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Hi is there anyway I could display my data in a header and detail format similar to a receipt or invoice? Regards, Arlie C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail |
From: Mr C. R G. <ori...@ya...> - 2004-07-30 13:51:46
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Hello, Are cumulative totals available with this database? If column 1 has a series of numbers, or is blank waiting for input, is there a setting for column 2 to calculate cumulative totals from the entries in column 1 ? Thanks ! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! |
From: Yedidyah Bar-D. <di...@ta...> - 2004-07-27 07:29:40
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On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:04:20PM -0700, Mr Cuyler R Griffith wrote: > > Thanks to suggestions from Andre & Yedidyah, I was able to produce a 'checkbox' row using the 'Boolean' option and a global setting. > > One last question on this topic....once a row has been checked, is it possible to toggle that row to 'disappear' from the display? Then, uncheck the row and it becomes 'visible' once again? No, that's not possible currently. The closest you can do is add a filter that searches for '0' in that field. Using this filter, the rows will still not disappear immediately. One way to make them disappear is to choose from the menu 'Rebuild Database'. -- Didi |