linux-apus-user

Probs with XFree86 4

[Stephen W. <st...@co...>]

Hello,

I've been installing Debian linux using as my sources Potato and Testing.  I've
installed XFree86 v4.1 and am unable to launch a working X diplay.  I have
tried both the config files available from the linux-apus site on sourceforge
but both give the same problem, namely a black screen that I am unable to kill
the session for.  Control alt delete has no effect, and there don't appear to
be any error messages.

Any suggestions gratefully received.  Oh, and I am using the PPC distribution
with a BVision graphics card.

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Re: Introducing : New member

[Roman Z. <zi...@li...>]

Hi,

Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> I had unbelievable crashes and the Amiga keyboard is remapped (ALT instead of SHIFT), some keys doesn't work at all and I can't use ALT and CTRL because they are not working very well CTRL A+A still works resetting the machine, but the @ is very difficult to get, that makes simple tasks a nightmare !!!

Have you tried different kernels? Any differences between console or X?
Did you try it with a m68k kernel?

> I need to stabilize the thing, it was installed by 'hand', using the old 1999 Linux PPC installer, and then adding files requested by the system, I'm using Gnome, the one that comes with the CD, but many apps didn't work, some do but they crash very often i.e. Netscape 4.7.3 (I couldn't compile many apps) weirdly I compiled using the kernel RPM source 2.2.18 and RPM headers, because I couldn't get a working kernel source 2.4.4 and kernel headers (that still confuses me, because I din't have the time to explore more deaply how compiling works).

Please try a recent kernel:
make apus_config
make dep clean
make vmlinux modules
make modules_install
cp vmlinux ....

bye, Roman

PS: please wrap your lines.

SuSe Linux PPC 7.3

[Jan-Erik K. <tr...@pr...>]

Hello,

I wonder if SuSe Linux PPC 7.3 works on the amiga
and if it does

how good is it as a distro?

With kind regards,
Jan-Erik Karlsson
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Introducing : New member

[Ricardo F. <ax...@mo...>]

Hi,

I'm new to this list ;)

I 've been using Linux PPC 2000 Q4 since early this year, on an A1200T BP=
PC 175 64 Mb RAM and CV643D kernel 2.4.4 and XFree3.3.6.1 (yes I still do=
n't how to replace it with XFree4) residing in 2 partitions . =

The system is unstable I had many crashes and when using X with Gnome, de=
spite the slowwwwww screen refresh, I managed to compile Apache 1.3.20 wi=
th PHP 4.06 and MySQL 3.23.41, still learning Linux, Apache, MySQL and PH=
P, but some scripts run, I also successfully installed a wireless Interne=
t device (it runs both under LinuxPPC and Amiga OS 3.9), not a printer. b=
ut the system is very unstable, I had unbelievable crashes and the Amiga =
keyboard is remapped (ALT instead of SHIFT), some keys doesn't work at al=
l and I can't use ALT and CTRL because they are not working very well CTR=
L A+A still works resetting the machine, but the @ is very difficult to g=
et, that makes simple tasks a nightmare !!!
I need to stabilize the thing, it was installed by 'hand', using the old =
1999 Linux PPC installer, and then adding files requested by the system, =
I'm using Gnome, the one that comes with the CD, but many apps didn't wor=
k, some do but they crash very often i.e. Netscape 4.7.3 (I couldn't comp=
ile many apps) weirdly I compiled using the kernel RPM source 2.2.18 and =
RPM headers, because I couldn't get a working kernel source 2.4.4 and ker=
nel headers (that still confuses me, because I din't have the time to exp=
lore more deaply how compiling works).
My next step is to make the system stable (reinstalling didn't work), app=
lications such as the Gimp crashed badly when applying simple effects !!!=

Any advise or guidance that help me get the system to work better will be=
 greatly appreciated
TIA


Best regards,
Ricardo Fitzgerald

 =

Re: GVP Series II SCSI

[Pieter E. <pi...@ba...>]

Hi there,

> > Well, i got it to work by formatting it with the wrong geometry,
> > compensating for the 1024 byte disk blocks. It still fails on inquiry's.
I
> > saw there's  some stuff in the kernel about blacklisting drives that
don't
> > like being scanned in a specific manner. But i dont need that, the only
> > inquiry that is fine is at boot time.
> > Anyway, I don't see how looping it could help, but i'm probably wrong.
Does
> > that allow me to set different specs like blocksize?
>
> The loop device allows you to access a device with a different blocksize
than
> its native blocksize.

Oh, i really tried :) but couldn't find out how to do just that...
On i386 there's an fdisk option -b 1024 which would help me i guess, but
neither cfdisk nor the apus version of fdisk have such a thing. Anyway the
disk works, i just have to set the geometry by hand...

Thanks and bye, Pieter...

Re: GVP Series II SCSI

[Geert U. <ge...@li...>]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Pieter Ennes wrote:
> > > Or could it be the geometry is wrong (it says 10 heads in cfdisk,
> > > which i know should be 1). Also most of the disks are 1024
> > > bytes/sector in stead of 512. Is that still a problem with the current
> > > kernel?
> >
> > That could indeed be a problem as of recent 2.4 kernels, try mounting via
> a
> > loop device.
>
> Well, i got it to work by formatting it with the wrong geometry,
> compensating for the 1024 byte disk blocks. It still fails on inquiry's. I
> saw there's  some stuff in the kernel about blacklisting drives that don't
> like being scanned in a specific manner. But i dont need that, the only
> inquiry that is fine is at boot time.
> Anyway, I don't see how looping it could help, but i'm probably wrong. Does
> that allow me to set different specs like blocksize?

The loop device allows you to access a device with a different blocksize than
its native blocksize.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: GVP Series II SCSI

[Pieter E. <pi...@ba...>]

Hi,

> > Or could it be the geometry is wrong (it says 10 heads in cfdisk,
> > which i know should be 1). Also most of the disks are 1024
> > bytes/sector in stead of 512. Is that still a problem with the current
> > kernel?
>
> That could indeed be a problem as of recent 2.4 kernels, try mounting via
a
> loop device.

Well, i got it to work by formatting it with the wrong geometry,
compensating for the 1024 byte disk blocks. It still fails on inquiry's. I
saw there's  some stuff in the kernel about blacklisting drives that don't
like being scanned in a specific manner. But i dont need that, the only
inquiry that is fine is at boot time.
Anyway, I don't see how looping it could help, but i'm probably wrong. Does
that allow me to set different specs like blocksize?

Thanks for your reply, Pieter.

Re: Cant login

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> There was some error setting up inter-precess communications for KDE, the
> message returned by the system was: Could not read network connections list
> /home/chaos/.DCOPserver_Homer_:0. please check that "dcopserver" prog is
> running.

make sure that your /tmp directory is writable by everyone...perhaps even
with

drwxrwxrwt

permissions


i'm sure i once had dcop server problems with RedHat - and this fixed it

alan

Re: What's the difference of Potato 2.2.r4 release?

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

Robert Johansson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Yurdaer Dönmez wrote:
> 
> > As you know, Debian 2.2.r4 has been released. I wanted to know is
> > there any huge difference from r3?  Is XFree86 4 included? What's
> > the advantages, what's the disadvantages?
> 
> No huge differenses - that is no glibc2.2, no XFree4, no new versions
> of any libraries, except for smaller updates.

Yep, the idea behind new revisions of stable releases is to fix grave
bugs and security holes. New versions, which might introduce new
problems, are avoided as well as possible.


> All those things will appear in Debian 3.0 (Woody) which atm is in
> "testing" phase. I guess it'll be released in about 2-4 months (just
> pure guessing).

We are only in the beginning of the freeze process, so that's a rather
optimistic guess.

Anyway, as long as you're not running a mission critical system where
maximum stability is required, you probably want to run testing or even
sid to get the latest freshmeat. :)


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Re: Cant login

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

Glenn Hisdal wrote:

> >There was some error setting up inter-precess communications for KDE,
> >the message returned by the system was: Could not read network
> >connections list /home/chaos/.DCOPserver_Homer_:0. please check that
> >"dcopserver" prog is running.
> 
> This sounds familiar. I think a friend of mine had that problem.
> When he dropped to a console and tried to run dcopserver manually, it
> complained about unresolved symbols in a qt library.

Yep, there is the casual C++ breakage in woody.


> >So I am assuming that this is something that should have been
> >installed/set up when kdebase or one of the other kde files was
> >installed. Do I remove and re-install or is there another way to get
> >this running?
> 
> If the problem is the qt-libs, you may get it up and running by
> downloading the qt sources (www.trolltech.com) and build it yourself.
> That should at least give you a working qt installation.

I strongly recommend against doing so. I think John has already made
enough bad experience with non-Debian XFree86.

The best thing would be to get familiar with apt's pinning feature (look
for -t in apt-get(8)) and install KDE from sid.


> We didn't try to fix it on my friends computer. He gave up and
> installed yellowdog linux instead.

That's his problem. ;)


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: GVP Series II SCSI

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

Pieter Ennes wrote:

> I'm trying to get a Sony SMO-C501 magneto optical drive to work
> through a GVP Series II SCSI adapter. Now is there any reason not to
> trust any of the standard utilities cfdisk, scsiinfo, mke2fs,
> badblocks with this setup on APUS?
> It looks fine on boot, i can actually mount it with the correct size,
> badblocks -w does execute wonderfully, but problems start with things
> like making nested directories on the ext2 filesystem (files are ok),
> or doing a scsi inquiry like
> scsiinfo -g /dev/sda (see dmesg below).
> Can anyone tell me where to start looking with this? I don't have any
> other scsi host around and i know this drive is a problem by itself,
> but to me this might seem to be having to do with the GVP driver or
> something...
> Or could it be the geometry is wrong (it says 10 heads in cfdisk,
> which i know should be 1). Also most of the disks are 1024
> bytes/sector in stead of 512. Is that still a problem with the current
> kernel?

That could indeed be a problem as of recent 2.4 kernels, try mounting via a
loop device.


-- 
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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: AmigaActive Debian Linux and X

[Mark S. <ma...@ma...>]

Hello Jan-Erik

On 10-Nov-01, you wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've got a problem with the AmigaActive Debian/GNU Linux distro, when I
> try to run X11 it seem's to crash the machine after it has loaded the wm,
> how should the mouse be setup ? should it really be a ps2 /dev/psaux mouse
> 
> there is also some corrupt graphics at the top of the 'screen'
> 

In regards to the mouse, I've got mine set to /dev/amigamouse and set to a
type of "bm", works fine.

As to the X.. I havn't installed that far yet :-) From what I have read the
AA version of Debian is packed with a broken X, getting a newer version
fixes things apparently.

Mark

AmigaActive Debian Linux and X

[Jan-Erik K. <tr...@pr...>]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the AmigaActive Debian/GNU Linux distro, when I try
to run X11 it seem's to crash the
machine after it has loaded the wm, how should the mouse be setup ? should
it really be a ps2 /dev/psaux mouse

there is also some corrupt graphics at the top of the 'screen'

any help appreciated.

With kind regards,
Jan-Erik Karlsson

Re: Cant login

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Steffen

, On 08-Nov-01, you wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 14:30, John Lord wrote:
>>> 1. Make sure that this problem is caused by xfree package 4.1.0-7 by
>>> updating to the most current ones.

>> I have 4.1.0-7 installed atm, and yes this does seem to be the problem.
>> Hope to be sorting it out soon.
> Sorry, I have forgotten the NOT - 4.1.0-7 is buggy. Please upgrade. If
> you cannot upgrade for some reasone you have to modifiy file
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start
> remove the quotations if there are any. As fare as I remember this was
> the problem.

Yes thanks I did change that but it made no difference unfortunatly ;-(


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Re: Backing up with tar

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Proborst

, On 08-Nov-01, you wrote:

> On Thursday 08 November 2001 14.08, you wrote:
>> Can someone tell me what I would need to type to archive these dirs to a
>> .tar file of my affs partition please?

> I believe 'tar cvzf /mnt/affs/backup.tgz /home /etc' should do the trick.

Yes thanks .

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Re: Backing up with tar

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Roman

, On 09-Nov-01, you wrote:

> Hi,

> On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Glenn Hisdal wrote:

>> > I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar
>> > -xzvf <tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?
>> 
>> yes.

> Note, that tar restores into the current directory (unless changed with
> -C). You probably also want to add -p, to restore all permissions.

OK thanks.

Regards
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Re: Backing up with tar

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Jean-Paul

, On 09-Nov-01, you wrote:

>> 
>> tar -czvf tarfile.tar.gz /etc /home
>> 
>> 
>>> I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar
>>> -xzvf <tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?
>> 

> If you use the command :

> tar -cvzf toto.tar /etc

> it will be very difficult to "untar" in another place, I would advise you
> to "tar" with :

> cd /etc
> tar -cvzf /tmp/toto.tar ./*

> After that it is possible to "untar" your files in another place with the
> command :

> mkdir /anotherplace
> cd /anotherplace
> tar -xvzf /tmp/toto.tar

> All your files will be in "/anotherplace" and you can examine all of them
> and copy or move any of them in the original place.

Thanks I'll give that a try too ;-)

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Re: Backing up with tar

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hello Glenn

Hi Glenn

, On 09-Nov-01, you wrote:

> Hi,
> John Lord wrote:

>> Hello,


>> With all the problems I have been having again lately, I want to back up my
>> /etc and /home dirs with tar. Perhaps this time it will make it easier to
>> set up again should I have too.

>> Can someone tell me what I would need to type to archive these dirs to a
>> .tar file of my affs partition please?


> tar -czvf tarfile.tar.gz /etc /home

Thanks.

>> I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar -xzvf
>> <tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?

> yes.

Good

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Re: Cant login

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Stefan

, On 08-Nov-01, you wrote:


> Hi there, I haven't read through all of your problems, but I saw the thing
> about getting the wrong chars in X. Have you tried to write your password
> as login name, just to see if the chars are right?

It is displayed ok if I try it as my login, but not as password. But ok in
console or GDM etc.

> I sat for an hour before realising that my <shift> key didn't give me
> capital letters :/ (my pass was AsDf but became asdf :)

I know the feeling ;-)


> To fix the ctrl (and more) keys, put 

> "CustomKeycodes" "On" 

> in your /etc/XF86config.4 (or whatever..)

Thanks I changed that, still no joy.

> If this was to any help, you're welcome, if not, so be it.. .:)

Thanks for the suggestions ;-)


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Re: Cant login

[John L. <lor...@uk...>]

Hi Glenn

, On 09-Nov-01, you wrote:


>> There was some error setting up inter-precess communications for KDE, the
>> message returned by the system was: Could not read network connections list
>> /home/chaos/.DCOPserver_Homer_:0. please check that "dcopserver" prog is
>> running.

> This sounds familiar. I think a friend of mine had that problem.
> When he dropped to a console and tried to run dcopserver manually, it 
> complained about unresolved symbols in a qt library.
> I haven't had that problem though...

Your lucky then ;-)


>> So I am assuming that this is something that should have been installed/set
>> up when kdebase or one of the other kde files was installed. Do I remove
>> and re-install or is there another way to get this running?


> If the problem is the qt-libs, you may get it up and running by 
> downloading the qt sources (www.trolltech.com) and build it yourself. 
> That should at least give you a working qt installation.

If I can ever get anything else but timeouts when trying to d/l files I might
give that a try.

> We didn't try to fix it on my friends computer. He gave up and 
> installed yellowdog linux instead.

;-o

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Re: Backing up with tar

[Jean-Paul P. <st...@cl...>]

Hello Glenn

On 09-nov-01, you wrote:


> 
> tar -czvf tarfile.tar.gz /etc /home
> 
> 
>> I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar
>> -xzvf <tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?
> 

If you use the command :

tar -cvzf toto.tar /etc

it will be very difficult to "untar" in another place, I would advise you
to "tar" with :

cd /etc
tar -cvzf /tmp/toto.tar ./*

After that it is possible to "untar" your files in another place with the
command :

mkdir /anotherplace
cd /anotherplace
tar -xvzf /tmp/toto.tar

All your files will be in "/anotherplace" and you can examine all of them
and copy or move any of them in the original place.

Regards
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   \\\    /   A4000-060 PPC 96M CyberPPC
    \\\  /
     \\\/

Re: Backing up with tar

[Roman Z. <zi...@li...>]

Hi,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Glenn Hisdal wrote:

> >I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar -xzvf
> ><tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?
>
> yes.

Note, that tar restores into the current directory (unless changed with
-C). You probably also want to add -p, to restore all permissions.

bye, Roman

Re: What's the difference of Potato 2.2.r4 release?

[Robert J. <rob...@st...>]

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Yurdaer D=F6nmez wrote:

> Hi,
> As you know, Debian 2.2.r4 has been released. I wanted to know is there
> any huge difference from r3?  Is XFree86 4 included? What's the
> advantages, what's the disadvantages?

No huge differenses - that is no glibc2.2, no XFree4, no new versions of
any libraries, except for smaller updates. All those things will appear in
Debian 3.0 (Woody) which atm is in "testing" phase. I guess it'll be
released in about 2-4 months (just pure guessing).

Robert Johansson  *  gu...@ha...  *  +46 (0)7 39 8000 39
         In pursuit of a M.Sc. in Computer Science

Re: What's the difference of Potato 2.2.r4 release?

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> As you know, Debian 2.2.r4 has been released. I wanted to know is there
> any huge difference from r3?  Is XFree86 4 included? What's the
> advantages, what's the disadvantages?

not having kept track i'd guess all the info is in the release
documentation.... what it'll contain are the latest packages
since 2.2r3  - thats about 280Mb of updated packages that some of us have
just kept our distributions up to date with by using apt-get   :-)

alan

Re: Backing up with tar

[Glenn H. <ing...@st...>]

Hi,
John Lord wrote:

>Hello,
>
>
>With all the problems I have been having again lately, I want to back up my
>/etc and /home dirs with tar. Perhaps this time it will make it easier to set
>up again should I have too.
>
>Can someone tell me what I would need to type to archive these dirs to a .tar
>file of my affs partition please?


tar -czvf tarfile.tar.gz /etc /home


>I assume that when I need to restore them, I would use the usual tar -xzvf
><tar.file> and that would write them back in the correct place?

yes.

- glenn