linux-apus-user

Re: APUS (Amiga 4000) IOBlix Serial module & source

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> I might add that I had several severe stability problems with the IOBlix in
> AmigaOS until I installed the "recently" released 37.17 drivers. With 37.16
> and below, it was very common for the whole computer to freeze when doing

thats okay, the Linux driver and that AmigaOS device driver have NOTHING
to do with each other at all...a bug under AmigaOS != a bug under Linux

alan

Re: APUS (Amiga 4000) IOBlix Serial module & source

[Per L. <pe...@al...>]

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17.52, you wrote:
> I don't think is an hardware problem.
> 1) Please try unplugging the serial mouse from IOBlix and tell me what
> happens
>    reloading the driver.

Unplugging the mouse has the same effect as not moving it around when it's 
plugged in. The machine works well until I try to use the serialports of the 
IOBlix, no matter if it's with a mouse or using a null-modem cable and a 
terminal program.

> 2) Using 2.2 kernel what was your configuration ?
>    Was you able to use a serial mouse a with that kernel & IOBlix
> driver?

I have not yet tried this. I'm downloading the 2.2 CVS module from the APUS 
CVS right now.

> 3) Do you use the IOBlix Ethernet module with Linux ? and if yes with
> what type
>    of driver?

I have an ethernet module attached to my IOBlix, but to my knowledge there is 
no suitable driver available for it in linux.

I might add that I had several severe stability problems with the IOBlix in 
AmigaOS until I installed the "recently" released 37.17 drivers. With 37.16 
and below, it was very common for the whole computer to freeze when doing 
very trivial tasks as insering a floppy disk (never a CD-ROM though) or 
accessing my Melody 1200 (for example playing mp3's over the network with the 
IOBlix ethernet module). With 37.17 I never experience any hangs caused by 
the IOBlix in AmigaOS.

Thanks for your help.
Per Larsson

Re: APUS (Amiga 4000) IOBlix Serial module & source

[Giorgio T. <de...@ip...>]

Per Larsson wrote:

> Hello again.
>
> First of all I would like to thank you for working on the IOBlix module, but
> I'm experiencing some problems :(
>
> Basically, if you remember when you altered the botoader to turn off the
> IOBlix before booting in to Linux to avoid a total system halt? Well, when
> insmodding your module and after getting the:
>
> RBM IOBlix card (#0) at address 0x80e90000, size 0x10000.
> ttyS1 at 0x80e91000.
> ttyS2 at 0x80e91080.
> ttyS3 at 0x80e91100.
> ttyS4 at 0x80e91180.
>
> everything seems just fine. But, when I send a signal on any of it's serial
> ports (moving the mouse, or using a terminal emulator), the machine just
> hangs. I lose network'contact with it, and the cursor stops blinking, but the
> power LED's heartbeat continues to blink.
>
> This is exactly what happened before you submitted the patch to disable the
> IOBlix from the bootloader. I am very much suspecting that this is a hardware
> problem with my IOBlix, but I'm just interested in knowing if you might have
> any idea of what might be wrong.


I don't think is an hardware problem.
1) Please try unplugging the serial mouse from IOBlix and tell me what
happens
   reloading the driver.
2) Using 2.2 kernel what was your configuration ?
   Was you able to use a serial mouse a with that kernel & IOBlix
driver?
3) Do you use the IOBlix Ethernet module with Linux ? and if yes with
what type
   of driver?
Taking a look in the flow of kernel's IPL the serial devices are
configured before 
the ethernet ones  and when the driver initialize the serial part of
IOBlix is a MUST 
to keep switched off all the interrupts this because there is a risk to
make
false UART starts. Unfortunately AFAYK there are only three bits i can
use to 
disable interrupts and are listed in the ioblix.h file.

Thank you for your response

Regards

		Giorgio

Re: So Debian is the Way to go ... but Potato or Woody

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 16:34, Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> Thanks for answer my questions. I am not sure if I have to dl Potato
> or Woody ?

Please try the woody boot-floppies and report any problems you find,
preferrably on deb...@li... but here is fine too.


> I have 2 partitions with LinuxPPC Q4 both are bootable. Should I just
> have to delete or move what's in one partition to the other or should
> I have to do a complete reconfiguration ?

Not sure what you mean. I don't think you can install Debian over
another installation so backup what's important and restore afterwards.


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Re: So Debian is the Way to go ... but Potato or Woody

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> Thanks for answer my questions. I am not sure if I have to dl Potato or Woody ?
> I have 2 partitions with LinuxPPC Q4 both are bootable. Should I just have to delete or move what's in one partition to the other or should I have to do a complete reconfiguration ?

if you have any personal data - configs etc then back them up.....

as for which version, I use Woody (upgraded to it from a Potato install)


alan

So Debian is the Way to go ... but Potato or Woody

[Ricardo F. <ax...@mo...>]

Hi,

Thanks for answer my questions. I am not sure if I have to dl Potato or W=
oody ?
I have 2 partitions with LinuxPPC Q4 both are bootable. Should I just hav=
e to delete or move what's in one partition to the other or should I have=
 to do a complete reconfiguration ?


TIA

Rick
A1200T BlizzPPC 175 and 040 cooking AOS 3.9 and Linux PPC 2000 Q4
with Apache 1.3.20, MySQL 2.3.41 Max and PHP 4.06
wireless internet connection
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APUS (Amiga 4000) IOBlix Serial module & source

[Giorgio T. <de...@ip...>]

Hello all,

this is a working ioblix driver (with sources) i am sending to the A4000

people to test it about any bug remaining i haven't found.
I have tested it succesfully  with minicom using a null modem connection

between two IOBlix ports at 115200 baud. Also this mail is envoyed with
it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

For R.E.Wolff
It was a little bit difficult to make it work with generic_serial: i
have
used some "dirty tricks" to get rid of a tx buffer control in the
gs_set_termios() function that made infinite loop locks if you try to
use
a serial port without a device connected to it.
I think that is better to add in the generic_serial upper level driver
the control of device connected (Data Set Ready) that will stop or flush

the tx buffer if !(DSR).A wait time will discriminate if this is a
simply
"kicked cable" stop or a true empty port flush.
Look ioblix_chars_in_buffer() function for the "dirty trick" i used.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

For Alan Buxey,
I think this driver may be easily adapted for the add of the A1200's
IOBlix
& Hipercom cards adding a machine's choice (A4000 vs A1200).

As you will see in the source header i have used the MAJOR ttyS & cua
numbers
4 and 5, i don't know if it was a good choice or it must be modified.
Do exists a clean manner to know how much MINORS are still initialized
in a
MAYOR device?  In the Amiga case i have begun with the 65 MINOR
(64 is built in serial) but i cannot assume this is ever true...
One other thing i have added (but not used in this driver ) is an
experimental
ser_board structure that in a future may be used to collect the specific
datas
of the Amiga's cards that use EXAR ST16C550-ST16C654 compatible UARTs.
I am working on this and a more "generalized" version that will be
committed
as soon as possible.
The module is compiled with 2.4.15 kernel but i think that it can be
used
also with a lower version kernel.

Some instructions ( if needed... :) )
To make IOBlix work generic_serial must be previously loaded
insmod generic_serial
    or
insmod generic_serial gs_debug=0xffffffff
    if you want debug infos
    after
insmod ioblixz2
    or
insmod ioblixz2 iob_debug=0xff

I am sorry but now the source is completely uncommented and indented in
a
"wrong" way...
Any suggestion or warning or else...(i hope not blames) is welcome.

For Per Larson,
thanks for your patience...

Kind regards
                        Giorgio Terzi

Re: SuSe Linux PPC 7.3

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 20:25, Stephen Webber wrote:
> Hi Stefan
>=20
> On 22-Nov-01, you wrote:
>=20
> > It's no problem booting the ramdisk from SuSE 7.3 ppc, the thing is tha=
t
> > there's no amiga keymap included in it. Or at least I don't think so...
>=20
> Just checked the SuSE PPC page.  Apparently the only reason they don't su=
pport
> APUS is due to a lack of kernel support.  Surely if this can be done for
> Debian, it could be done for SuSE as well?  just my tuppence worth...

The problem I see is that support for APUS is unlikely to generate the
extra income for them to do it themselves.


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Re: Apus best distro

[Michel <da...@de...>]

On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 18:30, Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> I've been using LinuxPPCq4 for a while ... but I want to get an Amiga
> supported distro which one is the best and where can I get it ?

Well, AFAIK we are the only one to officially support APUS, so not much
choice there. Fortunately, we are the best one anyway. ;)


> BTW if it is Debian is it too hard to reinstall existing and running
> apps such as Apache 1.3.20, MySQL 2.3.41 Max and PHP 4.06 ?

That's about what's in woody/testing. We have Apache 1.3.22, MySQL
3.23.44 and PHP 4.0.100 in sid/unstable. Installation is trivial. You
should be able transfer your configuration by backing up and restoring
/etc, beware that some configuration files may be in different places.


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: SuSe Linux PPC 7.3

[Stephen W. <st...@co...>]

Hi Stefan

On 22-Nov-01, you wrote:


> It's no problem booting the ramdisk from SuSE 7.3 ppc, the thing is that
> there's no amiga keymap included in it. Or at least I don't think so...

Just checked the SuSE PPC page.  Apparently the only reason they don't support
APUS is due to a lack of kernel support.  Surely if this can be done for
Debian, it could be done for SuSE as well?  just my tuppence worth...

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Apus best distro

[Ricardo F. <ax...@mo...>]

Hi,

I've been using LinuxPPCq4 for a while ... but I want to get an Amiga sup=
ported distro which one is the best and where can I get it ?

BTW if it is Debian is it too hard to reinstall existing and running apps=
 such as Apache 1.3.20, MySQL 2.3.41 Max and PHP 4.06 ?

Regards,

Rick
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ICQ 37031810

Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> When somebody implements it. ;)
>
> My impression is that people tend to underestimate the complexity of the
> task though.

sorry, i forgot the smiley after my question...

;-)


(I've recently 'converted' to using DRM/DRI on a x86 Linux box...it really
does change everything)

alan

Re: SuSe Linux PPC 7.3

[Stefan N. <sh...@mh...>]

It's no problem booting the ramdisk from SuSE 7.3 ppc, the thing is that
there's no amiga keymap included in it. Or at least I don't think so...

I thought I could just copy an amiga-keymap into the ramdisk with the same
name as another already-there. I'm not ready to edit the installer script
:)

Would that work?

//Regarde Stefan 
p.s. A big thank yoy to all you guys working on Linux-Apus, love it!



On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Jan-Erik Karlsson wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I wonder if SuSe Linux PPC 7.3 works on the amiga
> and if it does
> 
> how good is it as a distro?
> 
> With kind regards,
> Jan-Erik Karlsson
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Re: Cant login

[Michel <da...@de...>]

On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 18:22, John Lord wrote:

> >>> So I am assuming that this is something that should have been
> >>> installed/set up when kdebase or one of the other kde files was
> >>> installed. Do I remove and re-install or is there another way to get
> >>> this running?
> >>=20
> >> If the problem is the qt-libs, you may get it up and running by
> >> downloading the qt sources (www.trolltech.com) and build it yourself.
> >> That should at least give you a working qt installation.
>=20
> > I strongly recommend against doing so. I think John has already made
> > enough bad experience with non-Debian XFree86.
>=20
> Well in the end it was such a mess that I wiped the partition and
> re-installed. I know that you would say that was not needed, but in the e=
nd I
> just got fed up going round in circles with a blindfold on ;-)

That's an appropriate step as the old install was polluted by
non-Debian-packaged software.


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Re: Cant login

[John L. <ch...@la...>]

Hi Alan

, On 12-Nov-01, you wrote:

>> There was some error setting up inter-precess communications for KDE, the
>> message returned by the system was: Could not read network connections list
>> /home/chaos/.DCOPserver_Homer_:0. please check that "dcopserver" prog is
>> running.

> make sure that your /tmp directory is writable by everyone...perhaps even
> with

> drwxrwxrwt

> permissions

I will when I install KDE again.


> i'm sure i once had dcop server problems with RedHat - and this fixed it

Cheers.


Regards
-- 
John

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Re: Cant login

[John L. <ch...@la...>]

Hi Michel

, On 11-Nov-01, you wrote:



>>> So I am assuming that this is something that should have been
>>> installed/set up when kdebase or one of the other kde files was
>>> installed. Do I remove and re-install or is there another way to get
>>> this running?
>> 
>> If the problem is the qt-libs, you may get it up and running by
>> downloading the qt sources (www.trolltech.com) and build it yourself.
>> That should at least give you a working qt installation.

> I strongly recommend against doing so. I think John has already made
> enough bad experience with non-Debian XFree86.

Well in the end it was such a mess that I wiped the partition and
re-installed. I know that you would say that was not needed, but in the end I
just got fed up going round in circles with a blindfold on ;-)

Of course I made backups of /etc/ and /home/ first.


I have a working desktop running XFree86 v4.1.0 or whatever the version was,
have not installed KDE yet, as I read of problems.
 
> The best thing would be to get familiar with apt's pinning feature (look
> for -t in apt-get(8)) and install KDE from sid.

As soon as I understand one thing, I have to read about something related,
then forget the first....

Damn brain ;-O


>> We didn't try to fix it on my friends computer. He gave up and
>> installed yellowdog linux instead.

> That's his problem. ;)

;-)


Regards
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Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:02, Alan Buxey wrote:

> > Section "Device"
> >         Identifier      "BVision"
> >         Driver          "glint"
> >         BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
> >         VideoRam        8192
> >         Option          "UseFBDev"
> >         Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
> >         Option          "NoInt10"
>                           ^^^^^^^^^
>=20
> this is the important one.
>=20
> sorry, the XFree4 config on the APUS site isnt updated for the latest X
> currently

Look again. :)


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Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 14:18, Alan Buxey wrote:

> I noted your DRI membership Michel...and wonder if APUS kernel will
> see DRI XFree for PermediaII and DRM in the kernel?

When somebody implements it. ;)

My impression is that people tend to underestimate the complexity of the
task though.


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

I noted your DRI membership Michel...and wonder if APUS kernel will
see DRI XFree for PermediaII and DRM in the kernel?

alan

Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> Section "Device"
>         Identifier      "BVision"
>         Driver          "glint"
>         BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
>         VideoRam        8192
>         Option          "UseFBDev"
>         Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
>         Option          "NoInt10"
                          ^^^^^^^^^

this is the important one.

sorry, the XFree4 config on the APUS site isnt updated for the latest X
currently

but theres no reason why someone cant enter a FAQ-O-Matic entry for this,
come on guys/girls everyones part of this effort :-)

alan

Re: Introducing : New member

[Alan B. <al...@ms...>]

hi,

> I 've been using Linux PPC 2000 Q4 since early this year, on an A1200T BPPC 175 64 Mb RAM and CV643D kernel 2.4.4 and XFree3.3.6.1 (yes I still don't how to replace it with XFree4) residing in 2 partitions .
> The system is unstable I had many crashes and when using X with Gnome, despite the slowwwwww screen refresh, I managed to compile Apache 1.3.20 with PHP 4.06 and MySQL 3.23.41, still learning Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP, but some scripts run, I also successfully installed a wireless Internet device (it runs both under LinuxPPC and Amiga OS 3.9), not a printer. but the system is very unstable, I had unbelievable crashes and the Amiga keyboard is remapped (ALT instead of SHIFT), some keys doesn't work at all and I can't use ALT and CTRL because they are not working very well CTRL A+A still works resetting the machine, but the @ is very difficult to get, that makes simple tasks a nightmare !!!
> I need to stabilize the thing, it was installed by 'hand', using the old 1999 Linux PPC installer, and then adding files requested by the system, I'm using Gnome, the one that comes with the CD, but many apps didn't work, some do but they crash very often i.e. Netscape 4.7.3 (I couldn't compile many apps) weirdly I compiled using the kernel RPM source 2.2.18 and RPM headers, because I couldn't get a working kernel source 2.4.4 and kernel headers (that still confuses me, because I din't have the time to explore more deaply how compiling works).
> My next step is to make the system stable (reinstalling didn't work), applications such as the Gimp crashed badly when applying simple effects !!!
> Any advise or guidance that help me get the system to work better will be greatly appreciated

For latest kernel use CVS to download the latest kernel source. For the
latest X - i believe that the LinuxPPC pages have links for XFree4.x now

alan

Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Michel <mic...@ii...>]

On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 22:21, Stephen Webber wrote:

> I'm using the 2.4.9 kernel available from the Linux APUS site.

BTW, in Debian testing and sid there are packages for newer kernels. The
latest is kernel-image-2.4.14-apus, or use kernel-image-apus, which will
always give you the latest APUS kernel.


> > Here is Device section of XF86Config i was using when i had BVision:
>=20
> > Section "Device"
> >        Identifier      "BVision"
> >        Driver          "glint"
> >        BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
> >        VideoRam        8192
> >        Option          "UseFBDev"
> >        Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
> >        Option          "NoInt10"
> > EndSection
>=20
> > NoInt10 option might be what You are after..=20

Actually, the driver shouldn't try to use Int10 with Option "UseFBDev".
I've submitted a patch to that effect, which will hopefully be included
for 4.2.0.


> > (after rebooting You might check /var/log/XFree86*log )

As you still seem to have problems, it would be interesting to see a
log. If you can't access the box remotely, remount the filesystem
containing /var synchronously to capture as much information as
possible.


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Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Stephen W. <st...@co...>]

Hi Stephen

On 18-Nov-01, you wrote:

>> Which kernel do You use? selfmade? or precompiled one?

> I'm using the 2.4.9 kernel available from the Linux APUS site.


>> Here is Device section of XF86Config i was using when i had BVision:

>> Section "Device"
>>        Identifier      "BVision"
>>        Driver          "glint"
>>        BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
>>        VideoRam        8192
>>        Option          "UseFBDev"
>>        Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
>>        Option          "NoInt10"
>> EndSection

>> NoInt10 option might be what You are after.. (after rebooting You might
>> check /var/log/XFree86*log )

> I'll give this a try - thanks!

>> and btw IIRC Ctrl Alt Del never had any effect on Amiga... To kill X You
>> can use Ctrl Alt Backspace.

> I've tried both!

I've tried making these changes, but to no avail.  If I leave my system for long
enough, X eventually exits and gives me a Kernel panic, rebooting my machine.

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Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Stephen W. <st...@co...>]

Hi Just

On 18-Nov-01, you wrote:


> Which kernel do You use? selfmade? or precompiled one?

I'm using the 2.4.9 kernel available from the Linux APUS site.


> Here is Device section of XF86Config i was using when i had BVision:

> Section "Device"
>        Identifier      "BVision"
>        Driver          "glint"
>        BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
>        VideoRam        8192
>        Option          "UseFBDev"
>        Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
>        Option          "NoInt10"
> EndSection

> NoInt10 option might be what You are after.. (after rebooting You might
> check /var/log/XFree86*log )

I'll give this a try - thanks!

> and btw IIRC Ctrl Alt Del never had any effect on Amiga... To kill X You
> can use Ctrl Alt Backspace.

I've tried both!

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Re: Probs with XFree86 4

[Just a f. J. K. <je...@pl...>]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 09:02:50PM +0000, Stephen Webber wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been installing Debian linux using as my sources Potato and Testing.  I've
> installed XFree86 v4.1 and am unable to launch a working X diplay.  I have
> tried both the config files available from the linux-apus site on sourceforge
> but both give the same problem, namely a black screen that I am unable to kill
> the session for.  Control alt delete has no effect, and there don't appear to
> be any error messages.
 Which kernel do You use? selfmade? or precompiled one?
 Here is Device section of XF86Config i was using when i had BVision:

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "BVision"
        Driver          "glint"
        BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
        VideoRam        8192
        Option          "UseFBDev"
        Option          "ShadowFB" "Off"
        Option          "NoInt10"
EndSection

 NoInt10 option might be what You are after.. (after rebooting You might
check /var/log/XFree86*log )

and btw IIRC Ctrl Alt Del never had any effect on Amiga... To kill X You
can use Ctrl Alt Backspace.

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