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[Indlinux-group] svn for kde l10n

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

Assuming you have ssh keys added identity.kde.org
Use following to checkout kde message catalogs (replace language code)

For KDE 4.12
svn checkout svn
+ssh://sv...@sv.../home/kde/branches/stable/l10n-kde4/hi

For trunk / KDE 4.13
svn checkout svn+ssh://sv...@sv.../home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/hi

Karunakar

[Indlinux-group] Announcing Alpha release 2.91.0 of lohit-gujarati from lohit2 project

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

    Just completed work w.r.t Alpha release. Updated lohit project page
[1] for download details. Source tarball link [2], TTF tarball link [3]
and webfonts format for Lohit is at [4].
Number of improvement over the earlier version of Lohit Gujarati.
Changelog is as follows:

  * First release of Gujarati after re-writing all rules
  * Open type rules are available in .fea file for easy re-usability.
  * Supports 'gjr2' and 'gujr' both.
  * Follows AGL guidelines.
  * Testing done with Harbufzz and Uniscribe
  * Removed the rakkar ligatures for "cha","tta","ttha","dda","ddha" &
    written rule separately for them for Trakkar form(ra_virama_uvowel &
    ra_virama_uuvowel)
  * Added iivowelsigngujarati EMatras to match glyph widths.
  * Removed <Cons>+<Virama> ligatures.
  * Test file available with tarball.

   
    This is alpha release so need contribution from testing side. I will
soon build this for Fedora 20. Bugs and suggestions for improvement are
welcome on on github [6].

    Thanks for supporting and contributing in this.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

1. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit
3. https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-gujarati-2.91.0.tar.gz
4.
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-gujarati-ttf-2.91.0.tar.gz
5.
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-gujarati-web-2.91.0.tar.gz
6. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues/new

Re: [Indlinux-group] IEEE 1908.1™ WG releases draft virtual keyboard layouts for Hindi

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:22:27 +0530
Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> IEEE 1908.1 WG is pleased to release two draft virtual keyboard
> layouts for Hindi  and their Android apps for evaluation and
> feedback. The feedback is required by 11 Dec 2013.
> 
> Please check the detailed press note (
> https://mentor.ieee.org/1908.1/bp/CommunicationAboutDraftHindiKeyboardsNov2013)
> for further information
> 

Nice to see the progress, and a welcome idea to depart from cramming
a PC keyboard layouts onto mobile.

Have installed it and will share feedback, and immediate
question being how to get  consonant followed by vowel, so it does
not combine automatically. eg  नई , गई  

Karunakar

[Indlinux-group] IEEE 1908.1™ WG releases draft virtual keyboard layouts for Hindi

[Arjuna R. C. <arj...@gm...>]

Hello,

IEEE 1908.1 WG is pleased to release two draft virtual keyboard layouts for
Hindi  and their Android apps for evaluation and feedback. The feedback is
required by 11 Dec 2013.

Please check the detailed press note (
https://mentor.ieee.org/1908.1/bp/CommunicationAboutDraftHindiKeyboardsNov2013)
for further information

Sincerely
Arjuna Rao Chavala
1908.1 Working Group Chair

[Indlinux-group] Here comes the Beta release of lohit-devanagari-2.92.0 from lohit2 project

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

  Almost one month from the Alpha release, had a good time testing and
resolving bugs :)

  We identified around 12+ bugs during this time and also done some
minor changes in lookups. Issues on WinXp forces us to create 2-3
redundant rules but its fine as we have to make sure that font will work
across platform.

  I got couple of emails during this development mentioning designing
issues in Lohit. Yeah i do agree there is improvement possible
specifically from Basic Latin and improving consistency in all glyphs.
Present release is more targetted towards making technically perfect
fonts, i would definitely love to go for next round specifically
targetting designing improvements and for that we need help from
designing and typography experts.

  Back to this release, See the Changelog for details regarding bug
fixes, most of the those reported at [1]

  Updated lohit project page [2] for download details. Source tarball
link [3], TTF tarball link [4] and webfonts format for Lohit is at [5]

  In case of any bug/regression or suggestion, do report at [6]


Thanks,
Pravin Satpute


1. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues
2. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit
3.
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-devanagari-2.92.0.tar.gz
4.
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-devanagari-ttf-2.92.0.tar.gz
5.
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-devanagari-web-2.92.0.tar.gz
6. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues/new

Re: [Indlinux-group] AksharYogini font family released

[ॐ <sh...@gu...>]

On Wednesday 06 Nov 2013 11:28:00 AM Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:21 +0200
> 
> Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Quoting Guntupalli Karunakar (kar...@in...):
> > > I had met with font publishers again, their position is clear to
> > > keep the status as is, with no change in terms and conditions. So
> > > I guess font will remain as non-free for Debian.
> > 
> > Not remain, but become. The font is currently distributed in Debian
> > main....and should not.
> > 
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522490
> > 
> > To debian-in-workers: AksharYogini font is not "likely to be non
> > free". It *is* non free. Karunakar words are very clear about this.
> > 
> > The patch is trivial: drop it from ttf-indic-fonts and eventually
> > create a ttf-indic-fonts-nonfree source package with it included.
> > 
> > Again, something has to be done as this release critical bug is
> > likely to make the entire ttf-indic-fonts package dropped from
> > Debian main, which is certainly not what we want.
> 
> With the recent release of updated font (Aksharyogini2) under OFL ,
> maybe time to put it back!

_Put it back_ is a wrong usage, The philosophy in the Name of the font makes 
it **Put it BACK in front**!... 

Of-course that is not why it was pulled out, the licensing and related 
terminology problems are also of similar nature which most prefer to ignore 
just to make sure their blissful world remains intact...!

The topic is related to me only to the extent of "being perfectionist", not 
about being *"* an idiot of it *"*!

> 
> http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com/aksharyogini.html
> 
> Karunakar

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Re: [Indlinux-group] AksharYogini font family released

[ॐ <sh...@gu...>]

On Wednesday 06 Nov 2013 11:28:00 AM Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:21 +0200
> 
> Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Quoting Guntupalli Karunakar (kar...@in...):
> > > I had met with font publishers again, their position is clear to
> > > keep the status as is, with no change in terms and conditions. So
> > > I guess font will remain as non-free for Debian.
> > 
> > Not remain, but become. The font is currently distributed in Debian
> > main....and should not.
> > 
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522490
> > 
> > To debian-in-workers: AksharYogini font is not "likely to be non
> > free". It *is* non free. Karunakar words are very clear about this.
> > 
> > The patch is trivial: drop it from ttf-indic-fonts and eventually
> > create a ttf-indic-fonts-nonfree source package with it included.
> > 
> > Again, something has to be done as this release critical bug is
> > likely to make the entire ttf-indic-fonts package dropped from
> > Debian main, which is certainly not what we want.
> 
> With the recent release of updated font (Aksharyogini2) under OFL ,
> maybe time to put it back!

_Put it back_ is a wrong usage, The philosophy in the Name of the font makes 
it **Put it in front**!... 

Of-course that is not why it was pulled out, the licensing and related 
terminology problems are also of similar nature which most prefer to ignore 
just to make sure their blissful world remains intact...!

The topic is related to me only to the extent of "being perfectionist", not 
being an idiot about it!

> 
> http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com/aksharyogini.html
> 
> Karunakar
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Re: [Indlinux-group] AksharYogini font family released

[<pra...@gm...>]

On 6 November 2013 11:28, Guntupalli Karunakar <kar...@in...>wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:21 +0200
> Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> > Quoting Guntupalli Karunakar (kar...@in...):
> >
> > > I had met with font publishers again, their position is clear to
> > > keep the status as is, with no change in terms and conditions. So
> > > I guess font will remain as non-free for Debian.
> >
> >
> > Not remain, but become. The font is currently distributed in Debian
> > main....and should not.
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522490
> >
> > To debian-in-workers: AksharYogini font is not "likely to be non
> > free". It *is* non free. Karunakar words are very clear about this.
> >
> > The patch is trivial: drop it from ttf-indic-fonts and eventually
> > create a ttf-indic-fonts-nonfree source package with it included.
> >
> > Again, something has to be done as this release critical bug is
> > likely to make the entire ttf-indic-fonts package dropped from
> > Debian main, which is certainly not what we want.
> >
>
>
> With the recent release of updated font (Aksharyogini2) under OFL ,
> maybe time to put it back!
>
> http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com/aksharyogini.html
>
>
Glad to see Aksharyogini fonts released under OFL license. Will package it
for Fedora soon.

I would like to take this opportunity to thanks all people who helped to
convince upstream regarding all freedoms in opensource and how it can help
in long term in last 4 years. It definitely win from opensouce world.

Best Regards,
Pravin Satpute

Re: [Indlinux-group] AksharYogini font family released

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:30:21 +0200
Christian Perrier wrote:

> Quoting Guntupalli Karunakar (kar...@in...):
> 
> > I had met with font publishers again, their position is clear to
> > keep the status as is, with no change in terms and conditions. So
> > I guess font will remain as non-free for Debian.
> 
> 
> Not remain, but become. The font is currently distributed in Debian
> main....and should not.
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522490
> 
> To debian-in-workers: AksharYogini font is not "likely to be non
> free". It *is* non free. Karunakar words are very clear about this.
> 
> The patch is trivial: drop it from ttf-indic-fonts and eventually
> create a ttf-indic-fonts-nonfree source package with it included.
> 
> Again, something has to be done as this release critical bug is
> likely to make the entire ttf-indic-fonts package dropped from
> Debian main, which is certainly not what we want.
> 


With the recent release of updated font (Aksharyogini2) under OFL ,
maybe time to put it back!

http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com/aksharyogini.html

Karunakar

[Indlinux-group] Fw: [PLUG] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:35:11 +0530
From: Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sud...@gm...>
To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" <plu...@pl...>
Cc: aksharyogini <aks...@su...>
Subject: [PLUG] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License


Dear friends,

You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family
earlier. Here is some background if you are not aware of it.

On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is
primarily for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any
language using Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on
the occasion of Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th
March 2009) , we released the additional fonts to complete the
"AksharYogini font family". This font family was/is made available on
the site http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com for free
usage/distribution/sharing.


Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini
Joglekar, we are now releasing an updated "AksharYogini font".  This
font is also available on the same website
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com

This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows)
operating systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is
changed. Also, it has additional characters for the current Unicode
standard and the Rupee Sign is also included.

Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open
Font License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely
use it in their packaging.

Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can
download it from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .

Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font "
aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com " You can also comment on the guestbook
on the website.
Do share this news and also the font.

Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa

[Indlinux-group] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

[Sudhanwa J. <sud...@gm...>]

Dear friends,

You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family earlier.
Here is some background if you are not aware of it.

On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is
primarily for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any
language using Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on the
occasion of Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th March 2009) ,
we released the additional fonts to complete the "AksharYogini font
family". This font family was/is made available on the site
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com for free usage/distribution/sharing.


Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar, we
are now releasing an updated "AksharYogini font".  This font is also
available on the same website http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com

This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows) operating
systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is changed. Also,
it has additional characters for the current Unicode standard and the Rupee
Sign is also included.

Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open Font
License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely use it in
their packaging.

Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can download
it from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .

Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font "
aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com " You can also comment on the guestbook on the
website.
Do share this news and also the font.

Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa

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[Indlinux-group] Fwd: [Fsmk-discuss] Fwd: Who takes free software to new heights?

[Arjuna R. C. <arj...@gm...>]

Thought worth sharing..

Arjuna

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Re: [Indlinux-group] Announcing Alpha release 2.91.0 of lohit-devanagari from lohit2 project

[Parag N(प. <pan...@gm...>]

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar <
kar...@in...> wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:46:56 +0530
> Pravin Satpute wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   It took more time than i thought initial but happy that now we are
> > clear with most of the things (feature file, AGL guidelines).
> > Completely rewritten Open type tables lohit-devanagari is now
> > available.
> >
> > Silent feature of this.
> > 1. Supporting dev2 and deva both.
> > 2. Following AGL
> > 3. Feature file (Open type table) is separate than .sfd file.
> > (Though i have kept Open type tables in .sfd file as well but while
> > building ttf we import rules from .fea file)
> > 4. Tested with Harfbuzz and Windows8 Uniscribe version (Will test
> > with other older platform before Beta release)
>
> I am unsure about this, but has harfbuzz replaced pango engines?  ie.
> old pango indic shaper replaced with harfbuzz shaper?
>  I see libpangoft2 depending on libharfbuzz ( 0.9.1x on LMDE)
>

  The pango-1.31.0 release brings harfbuzz rendering support. See the top
changelog lines from https://git.gnome.org/browse/pango/tree/NEWS?id=1.31.0

Regards,
Parag.


> So if to test font with Harfbuzz I can test with gedit, libreoffice
> etc. or build from source and use it to test.
>

Re: [Indlinux-group] Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

On गुरुवार 24 ऑक्टोबर 2013 08:08 म.पू., Aravinda VK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As per my observations only blwf and akhn has difference between knda
> and knda2. Following table shows the difference
>
>           knda            knd2
> blwf     c + h           h +c
> akhn    c + h           h + c
>
> where h is halant and c is consonant.
>
> I implemented this in Gubbi(Still has some issues), GSUB rules can be
> referred here.
> https://github.com/aravindavk/Gubbi/blob/master/tools/gsub.fea

That is very useful. We definitely refer gubbi feature file.

Thanks,
Pravin Satpute
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Sneha Kore <sk...@re...
> <mailto:sk...@re...>> wrote:
>
>     hello,
>
>     As already specified in the original mail , Lohit kannada needs
>     some improvements , I would like to mention that I have already
>     gone through the task of GSUB cleanup & started to work for Glyph
>     naming task.
>
>     Regards,
>     Sneha Kore
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     >From: "Pravin Satpute" <psa...@re...
>     <mailto:psa...@re...>>
>     >To: loh...@re... <mailto:loh...@re...>
>     >Cc: pav...@vi...
>     <mailto:pav...@vi...>, hal...@gm...
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>     >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:56:39 PM
>     >Subject: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!
>     >
>     >Hi All,
>     >
>     >    First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project,
>     planning
>     >for Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the
>     next
>     >week.
>     >
>     >    Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other
>     >script fonts like
>     >
>     >    1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati
>     >    2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari
>     >    3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag
>     >    4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with
>     >Windows XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly
>     everywhere)
>     >
>     >    There are some more things needs attention
>     >
>     >    1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by
>     >Shriramana [a]
>     >    2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c]
>     >
>     >    From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit
>     >Kannada carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be
>     good if we
>     >can get rid of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me
>     to fix
>     >this.
>     >
>     >    These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need
>     >attention please let me know. On the top of this need lots of
>     help from
>     >you all for testing activity.
>     >
>     >    Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2
>     repo. Once
>     >get ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo.
>     >
>     >
>     >Best Regards,
>     >Pravin Satpute
>     >
>     >a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115
>     >b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081
>     >c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516
>     >
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards
> Aravinda | ಅರವಿಂದ
> http://aravindavk.in

Re: [Indlinux-group] Announcing Alpha release 2.91.0 of lohit-devanagari from lohit2 project

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:46:56 +0530
Pravin Satpute wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
>   It took more time than i thought initial but happy that now we are
> clear with most of the things (feature file, AGL guidelines).
> Completely rewritten Open type tables lohit-devanagari is now
> available.
> 
> Silent feature of this.
> 1. Supporting dev2 and deva both.
> 2. Following AGL
> 3. Feature file (Open type table) is separate than .sfd file.
> (Though i have kept Open type tables in .sfd file as well but while
> building ttf we import rules from .fea file)
> 4. Tested with Harfbuzz and Windows8 Uniscribe version (Will test
> with other older platform before Beta release)

I am unsure about this, but has harfbuzz replaced pango engines?  ie.
old pango indic shaper replaced with harfbuzz shaper?
 I see libpangoft2 depending on libharfbuzz ( 0.9.1x on LMDE)

So if to test font with Harfbuzz I can test with gedit, libreoffice
etc. or build from source and use it to test.

Karunakar

Re: [Indlinux-group] Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

On बुधवार 23 ऑक्टोबर 2013 05:18 म.नं., Pavanaja U B wrote:
> Rendering on Win XP will be different from Win7 and later versions in some
> special cases. The Unicode PR-37 was not implemented in the rendering engine
> of Win XP. It was implemented on Win 7 (or was it Vista? Anyhow, nobody is
> using Vista as such :-) ) and later. This is  my understanding.

Yes, do agree.
Supporting both knda and knd2 is challenging. But we have to try for it
since Lohit fonts are used as a Web fonts as well and it should render
correctly on most of the platform. I think by Alpha release we will have
better picture.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute



> Regards,
> Pavanaja
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pravin Satpute [mailto:psa...@re...] 
> Sent: 23 October 2013 16:57
> To: loh...@re...
> Cc: pav...@vi...; hal...@gm...;
> oms...@gm...; sk...@re...; sve...@re...;
> sa...@gm...; i1...@li...;
> ind...@li...
> Subject: Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!
>
> Hi All,
>
>     First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project, planning for
> Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the next week.
>
>     Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other script
> fonts like
>
>     1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati
>     2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari
>     3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag
>     4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with Windows
> XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly everywhere)
>
>     There are some more things needs attention
>
>     1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by
> Shriramana [a]
>     2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c]
>
>     From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit Kannada
> carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be good if we can get rid
> of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me to fix this.
>
>     These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need attention
> please let me know. On the top of this need lots of help from you all for
> testing activity.
>
>     Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2 repo. Once get
> ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115
> b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081
> c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516
>
>
>

[Indlinux-group] Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Kannada !!

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

    First some update on existing activities of lohit2 project, planning
for Lohit-Devanagari Beta and Lohit-Gujarati Alpha release by the next
week.

    Regarding Lohit-Kannada other than same improvements for other
script fonts like

    1. Following AGL while renaming lohit-gujarati
    2. Feature file separate as done in lohit-devanagari
    3. Supporting "knda" and "knd2" Opent type tag
    4. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (will test with
Windows XP as well to make sure webfonts will render correctly everywhere)

    There are some more things needs attention

    1. Removing unnecessary glyphs. Bug for that already reported by
Shriramana [a]
    2. Some other needed attentions are [b][c]

    From designing perspective, i dont know why each glyph in Lohit
Kannada carries negative witdh, see right bearing. It will be good if we
can get rid of it. It will be appreciated if someone can help me to fix
this.

    These are the points from myside, if anything missing or need
attention please let me know. On the top of this need lots of help from
you all for testing activity.

    Development is going on https://github.com/pravins/lohit2 repo. Once
get ready for alpha, will merge it main lohit repo.


Best Regards,
Pravin Satpute

a. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825115
b. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825081
c. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827516

[Indlinux-group] Announcing release of lohit-malayalam-2.5.4 (Resolves Samvruthokaram bug)

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

   Though this is minor release but important from the perspective of
compliance with script behaviours. 

Following are the improvement over the earlier release.
- Corrected width of U+0D74 character
- Removed deva tag from sfd
- Removed 0x79-0x7e, 0x80,0x84, 0x85, 0x88 glyphs #1013269
- Deleted wrong glyph of Samvruthokaram #1013183

   Fedorahosted page updated with links to download
lohit-malayalam-fonts [1].


Regards,
Pravin Satpute

1. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit/

[Indlinux-group] Announcing Alpha release 2.91.0 of lohit-devanagari from lohit2 project

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

  It took more time than i thought initial but happy that now we are
clear with most of the things (feature file, AGL guidelines). Completely
rewritten Open type tables lohit-devanagari is now available.

Silent feature of this.
1. Supporting dev2 and deva both.
2. Following AGL
3. Feature file (Open type table) is separate than .sfd file. (Though i
have kept Open type tables in .sfd file as well but while building ttf
we import rules from .fea file)
4. Tested with Harfbuzz and Windows8 Uniscribe version (Will test with
other older platform before Beta release)
5. test-devanagari.txt is available (Dunno should we provide .pdf may be)

   Updated lohit project page [1] with the download links and other
information


  This is alpha release so need contribution for testing this. I will
soon build this for Fedora 20 and request some people using Devanagari
script regular to install this version. I will recommend to report bugs
on github [2], Fedora specifics bug can go to Fedora bugzilla [3]


  Thanks for people supporting and contributing in this.

Best Regards,
Pravin Satpute


1. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit/
2. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues
3.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&component=lohit-assamese-fonts&component=lohit-bengali-fonts&component=lohit-devanagari-fonts&component=lohit-gujarati-fonts&component=lohit-kannada-fonts&component=lohit-malayalam-fonts&component=lohit-oriya-fonts&component=lohit-punjabi-fonts&component=lohit-tamil-fonts&component=lohit-telugu-fonts&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora

[Indlinux-group] Before the release of Alpha Lohit Devanagari from lohit2 project

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

Hi All,

    I am hoping now most of the contributors around are aware regarding
the lohit2 project. Before the Alpha release of Lohit Devanagari i think
it is important to go through once again goals we planned for this
project[1].

    Goals:

*    1. Cleaning Lohit Open type tables.*
    Highlights are as below
    - We rewritten all GSUB rules from scratch.
    - New rules are supporting both deva and dev2 script tag
    - Done testing on Harfbuzz as well with Uniscribe and its giving
expected results.
    - Kept GPOS tables intact.
    - Effectiveness and efficiency [2]  (sfd file size is down by 28K
and Binary file side is down by 4K)

    Found one bug w.r.t harfbuzz [3] and looking forward to get it
resolved soon. Presently it is in know issue list.

    By Beta we will have some more improvement on this.

*    2. Reusable Open type tables.*
    We got two important suggestions on this line, so below are
suggestions and action taken on it.
*    1st suggestion*
    To have feature file separate than shapes .sfd file for easy
re-usability of OT rules.
        - Thanks to AravindaK, he has already done some work on that
line[4], so just using those stuff. I have forked this gitrepo and doing
some improvement in it. Once done will request Aravinda to merge with
his repo.

*    2nd suggestion*
    To follow AGL[5] and to have readable glyph naming.  We were also
thinking from this perspective.
        -  This has became a bit complex glyphlist.txt [6] suggest names
like "kadeva" or uni0915. But we dont want to follow uni0915 as it is
not very readable considering our re-usability goals.
        - {0915 (kadeva) + 094D (viramadeva) + 0937 (ssadeva)} following
this create chances of glyph name string more than 31 characters limit.
        - So present plan is follow above "kadeva_viramadeva_ssadeva" as
much as possible and if it goes above 31 characters we will discard
"deva" part from glyphname.


*    3. Following of existing standards/guidelines*
    Dont know how many of you aware regarding "Devanagari Script
Behaviour For Hindi"[7] Draft, so its basically guideline for Font
developers. I have one blog pending on this. Though this is draft mode
we are trying to follow this, since it is very informative and prepared
after consulting to language experts.

    This is where we upto, if anything more needed do provide me your
feedback. Also need to decide on release version, i think some version
with -alpha will work.

Best Regards,
Pravin Satpute





1.
http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
2. Effective means it should work on all supported platform perfectly
and efficient means compact and clear rule
3. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69266
4. https://github.com/aravindavk/
5. https://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/AGL%20Specification/
6. http://kaz.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aglfn.adobe/glyphlist.txt
7.
http://tdil-dc.in/tdildcTemp/articles/75443Consolidated%20Feedback%20&%20Observations%20on%20Draft%20Devnagari%20Script%20Behaviour%20Ver%201.4.8_June_13.pdf

Re: [Indlinux-group] Thanks to hosting sponsor - E2Enetworks

[G K. <ind...@gm...>]

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
<sud...@gm...> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar
> <kar...@in...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
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Lists are on sourceforge.net , so ads come from there. They don't have
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considering low volume & effort in maintain list setup did not
considering moving it.

Karunakar

Re: [Indlinux-group] Thanks to hosting sponsor - E2Enetworks

[Sudhanwa J. <sud...@gm...>]

On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar <
kar...@in...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
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[Indlinux-group] Thanks to hosting sponsor - E2Enetworks

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

Hi,

 India based hosting provider E2Enetworks (http://e2enetworks.com) has
sponsored a VPS for indlinux. 
 Site migration is in progress, with wiki getting being upgraded,
wiki logins are disabled for now.

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[Indlinux-group] Devanagari script guidelines.

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

Hi,
 
As was told in FUEL conf, here is the draft of Devanagari script
behaviour/guidelines. One aspect that has been left out is
differentiating between valid and invalid conjuncts.

http://tdil-dc.in/tdildcMain/articles/154567Combined_Devanagari%20Script%20Behaviour%20for%20Hindi%20%20ver%201.4.8%281%29.pdf

Knowing invalid combinations for a language also helps in
spellchecking apart from font implementation.

Karunakar

[Indlinux-group] Indic font standard proposal

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

Hi,

Below are slides for Indic Font standard proposal I presented at
FUEL GILT conf.
http://indlinux.org/doc/IndicFontProposal.odp

Initial draft for Devanagari glyph list. First aim to identify all
combinations and then as per glyph naming rules provide names for the
combinations.
http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/Devanagari_Glyph_List

Karunakar