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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-08-31 09:49:00
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hoya it seems that lekho (a Bengali Unicode Editor) has reached version 1.0 the url is http://lekho.sourceforge.net according to the site ""Lekho" is a "plain text" editor designed to take in phonetic input from a standard US keyboard and convert (transliterate) it online into bangla text. The text is stored as unicode ( UTF-8 ) and can be read by any unicode aware application. Lekho is NOT designed to be a WYSIWYG word processor (like MS Word) For browsers/systems that are not unciode aware, the text can be exported as a webpage composed using the Adarshalipi font. Provided this font is installed on the system, the page will render correctly. Lekho allows the export of the bangla text in bangtex format. If you have LaTeX and bangtex installed on your system, you may use this editor to compose bangla documents to be compiled in LaTeX using the bangtex package. Lekho is coded to run on both Linux and Windows. " i am have dowloaded the source, but there's no ./configure script or anything, and so, i'm hacking the Makefile now let's see how this performs -cheers- sdg -- The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is inversely proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed. Quote from Slashdot.org |
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From: Arun S. <ar...@sh...> - 2002-08-31 09:11:49
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Hello, I've started some very preliminary work on translating KDE into Kannada. If any of you are interested in helping out, please send me mail. http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/languages/kannada/kde/messages/desktop_kdelibs.po http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/languages/kannada/kde/messages/ -Arun |
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From: Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...> - 2002-08-31 07:34:26
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Hi all, LTRC resoruces are back online. http://www.iiit.net/ltrc/index.html http://www.iiit.net/ltrc/internal/index.htm http://www.iiit.net/ltrc/downloads.html Downloads page has ISCII plugin, Font convertors, Dictionaries, Anusaaraka machine translation tool, Morphological analysers. Regards Karunakar |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-31 07:02:56
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My mail client is screwing up my mail headers so Im testing to see if I can post to the list now... -- Tapan |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-30 07:31:57
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Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:50:35 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha <fr...@by...> To: "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> Subject: Tamil Desktop... --__--__-- Message: 15 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:13:24 +0530 From: Vasudevan <vas...@et...> To: il...@ae... Subject: [Ilugc] Screen Shots Hello All, I have posted the screen shots of Tamil Desktop of Mdk9 at the following Site. http://personal.vsnl.com/vasu_a/ Bye Vasudevan --__--__-- |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-29 14:48:25
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We here are discussing how best to support complex script rendering on handheld devices (based on StrongARM). Here are current options that I can see: - GPE - works with Gtk 1.2 (on top of TinyX) - Opie / QPE - based on Embedded Qt (on top of TinyX) - DirectFB + Gtk2 Now all of these options have problems as I can see. Gtk 1.2 and QT dont have full complex script rendering support. Direct FB + Gtk2 doesnt have a full desktop / application environment built up yet. Plus you lose all the benefits of X (if there are any... ;) So there is some work ahead with any of these solutions. Here are the options we have to move forward that I can see: - port Gtk2 to TinyX - port Qt2 to TinyX - start building up a desktop env for DirectFB + Gtk2 - write our apps from scratch (boo!) Any of you guys have any inputs on this? Any one know how the Simputer guys handle complex script rendering? -- Tapan |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-08-29 08:16:07
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hia!
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 13:14, Tapan S . Parikh wrote:
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> sorry for the spam attack, but i just switched over to balsa and i am
> finding it very buggy.
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> if any of you are also on the fsf-friends list u can here me crib about it
> over there ;)
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> if anyone has suggestions for other mail clients please send them across...
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i personally evolution, and it's quite good (tho' a bit heavy)
for a light client, sylpheed is quite good - i used for quite some time
and the best of all is mutt (see my sig)
-cheers-
sdg
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All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less.
From Mutt.org
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From: Tapan S . P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-29 07:46:01
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sorry for the spam attack, but i just switched over to balsa and i am finding it very buggy. if any of you are also on the fsf-friends list u can here me crib about it over there ;) if anyone has suggestions for other mail clients please send them across... -- Tapan |
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From: Tapan S . P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-29 07:44:39
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sorry for the spam attack, but i just switched over to balsa and i am finding it very buggy. if any of you are also on the fsf-friends list u can here me crib about it over there ;) if anyone has suggestions for other mail clients please send them across... -- Tapan |
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From: Tapan S . P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-29 07:28:04
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Im sure most of you guys are already on the indlinux list, but if not see below about Malayam Gnome port from our friends in Kerala. Since the indlinux guys (Karunakar, Prakash, Venky) are all indic-computing participants also, maybe some ML streamlining should occur and the indlinux mailing list only be used for the discussing the development of the indlinux distro? Just an idea, but it would be nice to streamline our conversations away from many separate mailing lists and back channel conversations on to some place... -- Tapan -------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:00:19 +0530 From: Mahesh T Pai <pai...@vs...> Reply-To: pai...@vs... To: mal...@ya..., ind...@li... Subject: [Indlinux-group] Malayalam translation of the GPL Dear everybody, I am working on translating the GPL into Malayalam. At present, the preamble is completed, and I have put it up on my site, http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/ The files are pre-release versions, and comments on the terminology used is invited. For ease of feed back, I have numbered the paragraphs in square brackets [], and please quote the paragraph number in your responses. It is available in four formats, 1. Varamozhi text:- http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/gpl-ml-preamble-prerelease.txt 2. jpeg file:- (huge - 183 kb) http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/gpl-ml-preamble-prerelease.jpg 3. iscii encoded html, cur'tsy iLeap - so it uses ML-TTkarthika font. http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/gpl-ml-preamble-prerelease.htm 4. Unicode html, converted from varamozhi. http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/gpl-ml-preamble-prerelease-unicode.htm The unicode file uses styles in the headers and uses malayalam.ttf (the font) by default. If you do not have malayalam.ttf, open this file (the html file) in any text editor, and add name of font you have on line 19. 5. Post script format, (hhhhhuuuuuuggggggeeeeee - 251 kb) http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/gpl-ml-preamble-prerelease.ps I expect that there might some some opinions on the choice of words used, (like 'saujanyam' and 'swatantra'). Expecting your feed back (boquets and brickbats), Mahesh T Pai. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ IndLinux-group mailing list Ind...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indlinux-group End of IndLinux-group Digest |
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From: Krishnamurthy N. <kn...@ya...> - 2002-08-28 07:05:58
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Hi Koshy, Pls find my reply to your questions re. my generic translit. rule and mapping. Nagarajan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com |
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From: Tapan P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-26 20:35:37
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Below are updates from our friends working on Gnome 2 port for Malayalam... (Btw, you guys are making me feel like Fred by fwding all these mails onto -devel all the time...) ;) --- Frederick Noronha <fr...@by...> wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 20:38:34 +0530 (IST) > From: Frederick Noronha <fr...@by...> > To: "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> > CC: Brij Sethi <br...@in...>, Joseph Koshy > <ko...@in...>, > "Venkatesh (Venky) Hariharan" > <ve...@vs...>, > Ashish Kotamkar <as...@mi...>, > Vijay Pratap Singh <vi...@sr...>, > Guntupalli Karunakar > <kar...@ne...> > Subject: Feedback... from Malayalam networks > > From ar...@gn... Mon Aug 26 20:37:19 2002 > > > > > > MALAYALAM GNU/LINUX PROJECT: Baiju M > <mal...@ya...> is one of > > those who is planning to work with the Malayalam > GNU/Linux project (being > > undertaken by the KBIP and the Free Software > Foundation-India, as he > > recently mentioned, in passing. Could someone > offer an update on how that's > > going? All the best to you guys... > > FYI: > > Sorry for not updating the site for some time. Will > do soon. > BTW we had some development recently. > 1. Locale for malaylam is mostly working. So we can > now see the file > date/time etc in Malayalam. > 2. Sorting rules in Locale is available but havent > tested yet. > 3. A cool (because it works) and dirty(because it is > non standard) > method have been found for Malayalam Word processing > in OpenOffice. Hope > it will work in Kword and other office tools. Need > to test. > (Was planning to uplodad the details of this today > unfortunately I fell > ill and I am the only one with access to server.) > 4. Made some changes to Input Method so as to > accommodate new standards > by Government of Kerala. > 5. Translation work has been started. > 6. The response we got from IT Kerala 2002 for this > project was really > amazing. > 7. Code has been submitted to GTK CVS and expected > to get integrated > from next pango release onwards. > 8. Planning to start a OTF font table editor. > 9. Exploring the possibility for Malayalam OCR and > TTS. > (During the expo enquiry came for TTS systems form > a blind person. His > interest forcing me to work on it.) > > Baiju please do the update from now on for the > project. > > Regards > arun. > > From mal...@ya... Mon Aug 26 20:37:23 > 2002 > > [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" > character set. ] > [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" > character set. ] > [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. > ] > > > > MALAYALAM GNU/LINUX PROJECT: Baiju M > > <mal...@ya...> is one of > > those who is planning to work with the Malayalam > GNU/Linux > > project (being > > undertaken by the KBIP and the Free Software > Foundation-India, > > as he > > recently mentioned, in passing. Could someone > offer an update > > on how that's > > going? All the best to you guys... > > Malayalam Input method is completed. We adopted the > new > standared keyboard layout suggested by Govt. of > kerala as the > defualt (Its main feature is that, it includes > Malayaalm > "chillu" letters and avoided "Koottaksharas", it is > based on > inscript layout). Malayalam font renderer was > already completed. > Now we are about to start GNOME 2.0.2 translation > work > > > Regards, > Baiju M > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos > Classifieds. It's Free!! > visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com |
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From: Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...> - 2002-08-26 15:59:20
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 02:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Baiju M <mal...@ya...> wrote: > Please send the hindi basic UI terms to me. > So that we can compare the basic UI terms. > Its very urget, we are about to start our GNOME 2 > translation work. > The translation of Gnome glossary is in progress, but you can get translated po file from http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/gnome-2.0-core/hi.html I will put up a po compendium up in few days. > BTW, Karunakar, Did you used GTranslator for > your translations. Now it seems difficult to > translate the strings. Next week onwards > our group will start translating GNOME 2.0.1 I use testtext/gedit, translators are using yudit, gtranslator is being ported to gnome 2, It will be ready in couple of weeks. > I got compiled GNOME 2.0.0 now, everything is > ok now, But only anti-aliasing feature is > working for chillus(It makes use ZWJ), other > wise chillu is not rendering. > what will be the problem? Do you have Pango XFT > module for Hindi? Ok, will check this out mail me some sample text. Right now I have three testbeds, RH 7.2 with ximian gnome snapshots, Redhat 7.3.93 beta (limbo) this has pango indic xft support & is used by default. already a third beta (null) is out started downloading that. A LFS setup, with gnome 2 compiled. Regards, Karunakar |
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From: Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...> - 2002-08-26 12:38:28
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:48:09 +0530 "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > > Another possible area is that Karunakar who is currently working on > Gnome Translations can share his work with them, and also vice > versa. > > It would be weird if the basic UI terms varied very widely between > the Indic languages... > This is also an area which needs standardization ( terminology ). Some work seems to have been done at TDIL but its not accessible. The idea now is to get a rough translation done, which can be debated & modified later. > Maybe this is a documentation section we should add to the web > site.... > Right now working for translations for Gnome 2.0.2 release sched on 6th Sep. A translators guidelines is also in writing, this will be useful for any language. Regards, Karunakar |
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From: Baiju M <mal...@ya...> - 2002-08-25 09:51:37
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Please send the hindi basic UI terms to me. So that we can compare the basic UI terms. Its very urget, we are about to start our GNOME 2 translation work. BTW, Karunakar, Did you used GTranslator for your translations. Now it seems difficult to translate the strings. Next week onwards our group will start translating GNOME 2.0.1 I got compiled GNOME 2.0.0 now, everything is ok now, But only anti-aliasing feature is working for chillus(It makes use ZWJ), other wise chillu is not rendering. what will be the problem? Do you have Pango XFT module for Hindi? Regards, Baiju M --- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > > Another possible area is that Karunakar who is currently > working on > Gnome Translations can share his work with them, and also vice > versa. > > It would be weird if the basic UI terms varied very widely > between the > Indic languages... > > Maybe this is a documentation section we should add to the web > site.... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Baiju M" <mal...@ya...> > To: "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> > Cc: <ind...@li...> > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Fw: Malayalam... > > > > I think the best thing we can do is develop GPLed > > OpenType fonts for indic languages and And > > Input methods based on XIM or IIIMF > > More discussions on this issue cann't do anything. > > I think FSF India will be ready to co-orporate with > > us. The co-ordinator of the project, which you mentioned > > below will come to the workshop you are arranging at > > Bangalore. Talk with him. > > > > Regards, > > Baiju M > > (Because of some personal difficulties, I cannot come there > > for the workshop) > > > > --- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > > > > > Check it out - the GNOME Malayalam Dev site, which I think > is > > > being > > > done by FSF in assoc. w/ Govt of Kerala. > > >Is there any > > > overlapping > > > work that can be shared btwn this effort and either > IndLinux > > > or Indix? > > > > > > http://www.keralaindustry.org/malayalam/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-25 09:16:46
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Another possible area is that Karunakar who is currently working on Gnome Translations can share his work with them, and also vice versa. It would be weird if the basic UI terms varied very widely between the Indic languages... Maybe this is a documentation section we should add to the web site.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baiju M" <mal...@ya...> To: "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> Cc: <ind...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Indic-computing-devel] Fw: Malayalam... > I think the best thing we can do is develop GPLed > OpenType fonts for indic languages and And > Input methods based on XIM or IIIMF > More discussions on this issue cann't do anything. > I think FSF India will be ready to co-orporate with > us. The co-ordinator of the project, which you mentioned > below will come to the workshop you are arranging at > Bangalore. Talk with him. > > Regards, > Baiju M > (Because of some personal difficulties, I cannot come there > for the workshop) > > --- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > > > Check it out - the GNOME Malayalam Dev site, which I think is > > being > > done by FSF in assoc. w/ Govt of Kerala. > >Is there any > > overlapping > > work that can be shared btwn this effort and either IndLinux > > or Indix? > > > > http://www.keralaindustry.org/malayalam/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Indic-computing-devel mailing list > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > Ind...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-devel |
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From: Baiju M <mal...@ya...> - 2002-08-25 09:02:56
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I think the best thing we can do is develop GPLed OpenType fonts for indic languages and And Input methods based on XIM or IIIMF More discussions on this issue cann't do anything. I think FSF India will be ready to co-orporate with us. The co-ordinator of the project, which you mentioned below will come to the workshop you are arranging at Bangalore. Talk with him. Regards, Baiju M (Because of some personal difficulties, I cannot come there for the workshop) --- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > Check it out - the GNOME Malayalam Dev site, which I think is > being > done by FSF in assoc. w/ Govt of Kerala. >Is there any > overlapping > work that can be shared btwn this effort and either IndLinux > or Indix? > > http://www.keralaindustry.org/malayalam/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-25 06:50:39
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Check it out - the GNOME Malayalam Dev site, which I think is being done by FSF in assoc. w/ Govt of Kerala. Is there any overlapping work that can be shared btwn this effort and either IndLinux or Indix? http://www.keralaindustry.org/malayalam/ |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-24 19:06:36
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Noronha" <fr...@by...> To: "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> Cc: "Venky Hariharan" <ve...@vs...>; "Vijay Pratap Singh" <vi...@sr...>; "Joseph Koshy" <ko...@in...>; "Ashish Kotamkar" <as...@mi...>; "Guntupalli Karunakar" <kar...@ne...> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: Perl module to handle Indian Language i/O > From mk...@co... Sat Aug 24 18:21:38 2002 > > Perl module to handle Indian Language I/O > > http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/perl_enhance.html > > > -- mks -- > > > -- > M K Saravanan * mk...@co... > Research Asst. * http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~mksarav > Centre for Internet Research * Tel: +65-68748093 Mobile: +65-90682341 > National Univ. of Singapore * Fax: +65-68726198 > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now > http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/0XFolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -~-> > > To Post a message, send it to: ilu...@eG... > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilu...@eG... > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-24 08:39:36
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sayamindu Dasgupta" <unm...@So...> To: "Ravikant" <rav...@sa...> Cc: <ta...@ya...> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re:Third Devanagari test) hi! yes, i had poked around with that software but it seems that their fonts are not *perfectly* unicode compliant as they take up some space from the gujarati script section for the yuktashars -sdg- On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 12:49, Ravikant wrote: > > Dear Tapan and Sayamindu > > Tapan, I do not really know what it is but you can see for yourself. Just follow the link in my > earlier e-mail and download the latest version of the software from there and then install Bob > Eaton's package on your machine. I'll also forward a couple of other mails to you which he > posted on the group. > > And Sayamindu, a colleague of mine, Joy Chatterjee (jo...@sa...) tells me that there is a > bengali unicode generator as well, which you can download from > > www.bdcom.com/bangsee > > Enjoy > Ravikant > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Fwd: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re: Third Devanagari test) > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: ravikant Yuyutsu <rav...@ya...> > To: rav...@sa... > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > From: Bob & Barb Eaton <bob...@sa...> > To: derek.e <der...@te...>, rav...@ya... > Subject: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re: Third Devanagari test) > Date: 14 Aug 2002 17:27:30 +0530 > > Derek & Ravikant, > > Attached is the keyboard (DevRomU.kmn--a text-like/editable file that shows > which keystrokes map to which unicode values--you can edit and recompile it > in order to add your own features/keying sequences, though beware the syntax > isn't trivial) and the compiled version (DevRomU.kmx) which you install in > the Keyman.exe program. If you have Keyman already installed, I think you > can just double-click the .kmx file to install it. Also attached is the Word > document I mentioned that describes which अक्षर is generated by which > keys--mostly what you'd expect for 'romanized' keyboard: "k" gives क, "K" > gives ख, etc. > > Here are a few additional usage notes: > 1) Unicode will automatically reverse the 'ikar' when rendering, for > example, किताब. So that you must type the 'k' and then the 'i' to get the > correct rendering (with non-unicode fonts you likely had to type the ikar > first and than the consonant after which it is pronounced). > > 2) To get the independent form of vowels, you first type 'q' and than the > corresponding vowel (e.g. "q" + "i" gives इ). > > 3) If you type a number, you get the Arabic numerals (since those are so > widespread these days). If you type the backspace following the number, you > get the 'Devanagri' numerals (e.g. १). > > 4) If you type a capital "Q" followed by any letter you get the roman > alphabet and that mode continues for the rest of a word (i.e. until the > space). This allows you to type a short stretch of English without having > to turn the keyboard off. > > 5) Speaking of which, if you type "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "D", it turns on the > keyboard (by default, though the key sequence you use is modifiable). You > should go into "Keyman Configuration", "Options" tab, and set some other > sequence (such as, "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "W") to turn it off. > > 6) Use the following sequences for consonant conjuncts: > > To get the 'stack' characters, use the ";" (e.g. "k" + ";" + "t" gives क्त) > > To get the half-character/full-character conjunct, use the "x" key (e.g. "k" > + "x" + "t" gives क्त) > > To get the full-character/halant/full character conjunct, use the "X" key > (e.g. "k" + "X" + "t" gives क्त) > > 7) Finally, to get the 'flying reph' you can use "R" after the letter you > want it above (e.g. कर्म from "k" + "m" + "R") or the 'stack' approach by > entering it in linear/phonological order (e.g. "k" + "u" + "r" + ";" + "t" + > "a" for कुर्ता). > > Hope that helps, > Bob > -- The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is inversely proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed. Quote from Slashdot.org |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-24 08:38:12
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sayamindu Dasgupta" <unm...@So...> To: "Ravikant" <rav...@sa...> Cc: <ta...@ya...> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re:Third Devanagari test) hi! yes, i had poked around with that software but it seems that their fonts are not *perfectly* unicode compliant as they take up some space from the gujarati script section for the yuktashars -sdg- On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 12:49, Ravikant wrote: > > Dear Tapan and Sayamindu > > Tapan, I do not really know what it is but you can see for yourself. Just follow the link in my > earlier e-mail and download the latest version of the software from there and then install Bob > Eaton's package on your machine. I'll also forward a couple of other mails to you which he > posted on the group. > > And Sayamindu, a colleague of mine, Joy Chatterjee (jo...@sa...) tells me that there is a > bengali unicode generator as well, which you can download from > > www.bdcom.com/bangsee > > Enjoy > Ravikant > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Fwd: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re: Third Devanagari test) > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: ravikant Yuyutsu <rav...@ya...> > To: rav...@sa... > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > From: Bob & Barb Eaton <bob...@sa...> > To: derek.e <der...@te...>, rav...@ya... > Subject: Re: [hindi] free devanagri keying utilities (was: Re: re: Third Devanagari test) > Date: 14 Aug 2002 17:27:30 +0530 > > Derek & Ravikant, > > Attached is the keyboard (DevRomU.kmn--a text-like/editable file that shows > which keystrokes map to which unicode values--you can edit and recompile it > in order to add your own features/keying sequences, though beware the syntax > isn't trivial) and the compiled version (DevRomU.kmx) which you install in > the Keyman.exe program. If you have Keyman already installed, I think you > can just double-click the .kmx file to install it. Also attached is the Word > document I mentioned that describes which अक्षर is generated by which > keys--mostly what you'd expect for 'romanized' keyboard: "k" gives क, "K" > gives ख, etc. > > Here are a few additional usage notes: > 1) Unicode will automatically reverse the 'ikar' when rendering, for > example, किताब. So that you must type the 'k' and then the 'i' to get the > correct rendering (with non-unicode fonts you likely had to type the ikar > first and than the consonant after which it is pronounced). > > 2) To get the independent form of vowels, you first type 'q' and than the > corresponding vowel (e.g. "q" + "i" gives इ). > > 3) If you type a number, you get the Arabic numerals (since those are so > widespread these days). If you type the backspace following the number, you > get the 'Devanagri' numerals (e.g. १). > > 4) If you type a capital "Q" followed by any letter you get the roman > alphabet and that mode continues for the rest of a word (i.e. until the > space). This allows you to type a short stretch of English without having > to turn the keyboard off. > > 5) Speaking of which, if you type "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "D", it turns on the > keyboard (by default, though the key sequence you use is modifiable). You > should go into "Keyman Configuration", "Options" tab, and set some other > sequence (such as, "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "W") to turn it off. > > 6) Use the following sequences for consonant conjuncts: > > To get the 'stack' characters, use the ";" (e.g. "k" + ";" + "t" gives क्त) > > To get the half-character/full-character conjunct, use the "x" key (e.g. "k" > + "x" + "t" gives क्त) > > To get the full-character/halant/full character conjunct, use the "X" key > (e.g. "k" + "X" + "t" gives क्त) > > 7) Finally, to get the 'flying reph' you can use "R" after the letter you > want it above (e.g. कर्म from "k" + "m" + "R") or the 'stack' approach by > entering it in linear/phonological order (e.g. "k" + "u" + "r" + ";" + "t" + > "a" for कुर्ता). > > Hope that helps, > Bob > -- The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is inversely proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed. Quote from Slashdot.org |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-08-24 06:08:23
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hi,
i had asked the the kolkata LUG and, a guy from the ISI replied thus
Hi Sayamindu,
There is a project ( probably sponsored by Ministry of Defence ) for
developing software for "Indian Language Computation".
I dont know how much that pertains to linux. Moreover probably its
going
to proprietary ( owned by govt. ).
Anything specific that you want to know about it ?
Sourangshu
-cheers-
sdg
On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 10:26, Venky Hariharan wrote:
> Probably the OCR Bengali software developed by BB Chaudhari of Indian
> Statistical Institute.
>
> Venky
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sayamindu Dasgupta <unm...@So...>
> To: <ilu...@il...>
> Cc: Ashish Kotamkar <as...@mi...>; Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya
> <vi...@sr...>; Joseph Koshy <ko...@in...>; Koshy J
> <jk...@Fr...>; Venkatesh (Venky) "Hariharan <ve...@vs...>;
> <kar...@ne...>; <fr...@by...>; <ta...@ya...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:41 PM
> Subject: ISI kolkata developing indic language software??
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> > hello,
> > i recently saw a news item on the tv where they were showing a indic
> > language software developed by ISI kolkata
> > can anyone give me more information/specs on this??
> > is this unicode compliant??
> > -regds-
> > sdg
> >
> > --
> > The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is
> > inversely
> > proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed.
> >
> > Quote from Slashdot.org
> >
> >
> >
>
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The relative speed of a computer, regardless of CPU architecture, is
inversely
proportional to the number of Microsoft products installed.
Quote from Slashdot.org
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From: Tapan P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-08-23 07:30:30
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Sounds interesting, is it just like some kind of souped up keyboard driver? Im sure everyone on indic-computing-devel would like to hear about this and propose alternatives for other OS's. -- Tapan --- Ravikant <rav...@sa...> wrote: > > Dear Fred and all, > > I'm wrting to all of you also to share with you the > info about a Windows > solution for generating unicode fonts. > > The following is copied from a mail Bob Eaton posted > on a hindi list at yahoo > groups: > > There's a free keyboard manager (for non-commercial > use) called "Keyman" > available from http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/ > that can be customized to > generate any unicode or otherwise keying sequences > one desires. I've written > a keyboard table to generate Unicode Devanagri which > I'm willing to give to > anyone that's interested. It's basically a romanized > version where the 'k' > key generates /à¤*/ (kkar), 'K' generates /à¤-/ > khkar, etc. There's a word > document that goes with it to show the keying > sequences for consonant > clusters, etc. > > end of Bob Eaton's posting. > > I've tested it on windows and it works really fine. > Using the keyboard you can > write straightaway into your mail compose box. It is > also a more logical and > convenient phonetic (means you follow the English > equivalents to Hindi > letters) keyboard than all others I've come across > so > far. To write you do not have to go to a hidden > insert character box, nor do > you have to punch five keys to generate a > 'samyuktAkshar' or combined letters. > It is such happiness to see your file name and > subject header in Hindi! > In short, it is the penultimate solution to Hindi > woes. 'Penultimate' because > I will wait for the 'Free' solution. > > If you guys are interseted in testing it I can send > his devnagari keyboard to > you. The reason why I'm pushing it is that we will > have to develop something > like this for Linux machines. Unicode is the future > and here is a simple > solution! Much better than cut-paste method one has > to resort to on Yudit. > I'm sure we can discuss all this in the Indic > computing workshop. > > So, this mail is also a confirmation of our > participation in the workshop. > Supreet and I are definitely coming. Sorry for the > slight delay. > > Cheers > ravikant > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com |
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From: Ajay G. <aja...@ya...> - 2002-08-22 17:21:55
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Are there no Indian keyboards? Looks like there is market now. Transliteration cannot be the future. -Ajay > AFAIK, you have to send transliterated message in English to a number and > they will then send SMS in Gujarati to the recipient. > > For example, to send an SMS in Hindi, you have to send > Aap Kaise Ho? > > to some number and then service provider will convert it into Hindi message > and forward it. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com |
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From: Keyur S. <key...@ya...> - 2002-08-22 05:54:37
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--- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > Sometimes I wonder how much transliteration damages the language. > Clearly somewhat because it is pretty ugly-looking compared to our own > letters. But for a certail level of users you have to admit the point > does get across. > > But clearly that cannot be the final solution... Tapan, I agree with you. Transliteration certainly can not be the the final and satisfactory solution. I have come across atleast 3 transliteration methods for Indian languages. Many more may be there which I am not aware of and few more may come in future :-( For any method to get accepted widely, there should be consensus in the community. Different people are confortable with different input methods. And this is understandable in a country like India where there are millions of people. And finally, in this englishmen leading world, you can't ignore English totally. English has become an international language and to cope with this competitive world one has to learn English. But truly, it does not (and can not) represent all languages in this world. - Keyur > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keyur Shroff" <key...@ya...> > To: <ind...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Indic-computing-devel] SMS (was: ISI kolkata developing > indic language software??) > > > > Hi, > > > > --- "Tapan S. Parikh" <ta...@ya...> wrote: > > > > > > Also, my uncle has a phone where he can SMS in Gujarati. Has > anyone > > > see this? What is the input method? > > > > AFAIK, you have to send transliterated message in English to a > number and > > they will then send SMS in Gujarati to the recipient. > > > > For example, to send an SMS in Hindi, you have to send > > Aap Kaise Ho? > > > > to some number and then service provider will convert it into Hindi > message > > and forward it. > > > > - Keyur > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > > _______________________________________________ > > Indic-computing-devel mailing list > > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > Ind...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old > cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! > https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 > _______________________________________________ > Indic-computing-devel mailing list > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > Ind...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-devel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com |
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