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From: Philipp K. J. <ja...@ie...> - 2008-03-23 20:09:59
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My book on gnuplot is nearing completion, and we should start letting gnuplot users know about it. The most important place, of course, is www.gnuplot.info I have set up two mock-ups of the current home page with info about the book included. Please take a look. One is very close to the current design: http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html The other one is a bit more contemporary, featuring a standard left-navbar: http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html Let me know what you think. I'd like to get something up on the webpage very soon. (If we decide to go with version 2, I am volunteering to update the other pages accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) Best, Ph. |
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From: Ethan A M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-23 22:12:44
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On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > I have set up two mock-ups of the current > home page with info about the book included. > Please take a look. > > One is very close to the current design: > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html > > The other one is a bit more contemporary, > featuring a standard left-navbar: > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html > > Let me know what you think. I'd like to get > something up on the webpage very soon. Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". I'd rather just have something like this: http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homepage.html Ethan > (If we decide to go with version 2, I am > volunteering to update the other pages > accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) > > Best, > > Ph. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > gnuplot-beta mailing list > gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > -- Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742 |
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From: Philipp K. J. <ja...@ie...> - 2008-03-24 00:24:55
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Thanks for taking a look! I hear you, but I don't think I agree with your criterion for a home page: I don't mind the scrolling, but I want a (single) page that tells me what's going on without having to click a link and to wait for a second page to load. Here is a compromise design: http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index3.html Best, Ph. On Sunday 23 March 2008 15:02, you wrote: > On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > I have set up two mock-ups of the current > > home page with info about the book included. > > Please take a look. > > > > One is very close to the current design: > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html > > > > The other one is a bit more contemporary, > > featuring a standard left-navbar: > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html > > > > Let me know what you think. I'd like to get > > something up on the webpage very soon. > > Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: > "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". > > I'd rather just have something like this: > http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homepage.htm >l > > Ethan > > > (If we decide to go with version 2, I am > > volunteering to update the other pages > > accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) > > > > Best, > > > > Ph. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > gnu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta |
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From: Ralf J. <jue...@cs...> - 2008-03-24 01:25:20
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I agree with Ethan--if you do not go to page to read but to go somewhere else from there, having to scroll is annoying. That said, I like your design. There a few things that could be trimmed (e.g., leave out the ToC, shorten the about-Gnuplot-blah, remove one of plots on the top). Ralf On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > Thanks for taking a look! > > I hear you, but I don't think I agree with your > criterion for a home page: I don't mind the > scrolling, but I want a (single) page that tells > me what's going on without having to click a > link and to wait for a second page to load. > > Here is a compromise design: > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index3.html > > Best, > > Ph. > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 15:02, you wrote: >> On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: >>> I have set up two mock-ups of the current >>> home page with info about the book included. >>> Please take a look. >>> >>> One is very close to the current design: >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html >>> >>> The other one is a bit more contemporary, >>> featuring a standard left-navbar: >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html >>> >>> Let me know what you think. I'd like to get >>> something up on the webpage very soon. >> >> Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: >> "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". >> >> I'd rather just have something like this: >> http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homepage.htm >> l >> >> Ethan >> >>> (If we decide to go with version 2, I am >>> volunteering to update the other pages >>> accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ph. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnuplot-beta mailing list >>> gnu...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > gnuplot-beta mailing list > gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > |
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From: Philipp K. J. <ja...@ie...> - 2008-03-24 03:43:48
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Ok, here is another attempt, based on Ralf's comment. http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html At least on my screen, this does not wrap. Best, Ph. On Sunday 23 March 2008 18:24, you wrote: > I agree with Ethan--if you do not go to page to read > but to go somewhere else from there, having to scroll > is annoying. > > That said, I like your design. There a few things that > could be trimmed (e.g., leave out the ToC, shorten the > about-Gnuplot-blah, remove one of plots on the top). > > Ralf > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > Thanks for taking a look! > > > > I hear you, but I don't think I agree with your > > criterion for a home page: I don't mind the > > scrolling, but I want a (single) page that tells > > me what's going on without having to click a > > link and to wait for a second page to load. > > > > Here is a compromise design: > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index3.html > > > > Best, > > > > Ph. > > > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 15:02, you wrote: > >> On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > >>> I have set up two mock-ups of the current > >>> home page with info about the book included. > >>> Please take a look. > >>> > >>> One is very close to the current design: > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html > >>> > >>> The other one is a bit more contemporary, > >>> featuring a standard left-navbar: > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html > >>> > >>> Let me know what you think. I'd like to get > >>> something up on the webpage very soon. > >> > >> Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: > >> "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". > >> > >> I'd rather just have something like this: > >> http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homepage. > >>htm l > >> > >> Ethan > >> > >>> (If we decide to go with version 2, I am > >>> volunteering to update the other pages > >>> accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Ph. > >>> > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>-- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> gnuplot-beta mailing list > >>> gnu...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > gnu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta |
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From: Ethan A M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-24 04:32:10
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On Sunday 23 March 2008 19:43, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > Ok, here is another attempt, based on Ralf's > comment. > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html > > At least on my screen, this does not wrap. It does on mine. I understand you are excited about getting a book published. But the rest of the world has no particular reason to read your Table of Contents on the gnuplot home page. From the point of view of someone visiting the gnuplot page, what is gained by having the book's table of contents there? Maybe if they were live links... How about removing the ToC and restorgin the remaining two table entries to being side-by-side, as they were originally? Ethan > Best, > > Ph. > > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 18:24, you wrote: > > I agree with Ethan--if you do not go to page to read > > but to go somewhere else from there, having to scroll > > is annoying. > > > > That said, I like your design. There a few things that > > could be trimmed (e.g., leave out the ToC, shorten the > > about-Gnuplot-blah, remove one of plots on the top). > > > > Ralf > > > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > > Thanks for taking a look! > > > > > > I hear you, but I don't think I agree with your > > > criterion for a home page: I don't mind the > > > scrolling, but I want a (single) page that tells > > > me what's going on without having to click a > > > link and to wait for a second page to load. > > > > > > Here is a compromise design: > > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index3.html > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Ph. > > > > > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 15:02, you wrote: > > >> On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > >>> I have set up two mock-ups of the current > > >>> home page with info about the book included. > > >>> Please take a look. > > >>> > > >>> One is very close to the current design: > > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html > > >>> > > >>> The other one is a bit more contemporary, > > >>> featuring a standard left-navbar: > > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html > > >>> > > >>> Let me know what you think. I'd like to get > > >>> something up on the webpage very soon. > > >> > > >> Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: > > >> "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". > > >> > > >> I'd rather just have something like this: > > >> http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homepage. > > >>htm l > > >> > > >> Ethan > > >> > > >>> (If we decide to go with version 2, I am > > >>> volunteering to update the other pages > > >>> accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) > > >>> > > >>> Best, > > >>> > > >>> Ph. > > >>> > > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>-- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> gnuplot-beta mailing list > > >>> gnu...@li... > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > > gnu...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > gnuplot-beta mailing list > gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > -- Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742 |
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From: Philipp K. J. <ja...@ie...> - 2008-03-24 05:48:36
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Alright. I'll try again. On Sunday 23 March 2008 21:32, you wrote: > On Sunday 23 March 2008 19:43, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > Ok, here is another attempt, based on Ralf's > > comment. > > > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html > > > > At least on my screen, this does not wrap. > > It does on mine. > > I understand you are excited about getting a book published. > But the rest of the world has no particular reason to read your > Table of Contents on the gnuplot home page. From the point of > view of someone visiting the gnuplot page, what is gained by > having the book's table of contents there? > Maybe if they were live links... > > How about removing the ToC and restorgin the remaining > two table entries to being side-by-side, as they were > originally? > > Ethan > > > Best, > > > > Ph. > > > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 18:24, you wrote: > > > I agree with Ethan--if you do not go to page to read > > > but to go somewhere else from there, having to scroll > > > is annoying. > > > > > > That said, I like your design. There a few things that > > > could be trimmed (e.g., leave out the ToC, shorten the > > > about-Gnuplot-blah, remove one of plots on the top). > > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > > > Thanks for taking a look! > > > > > > > > I hear you, but I don't think I agree with your > > > > criterion for a home page: I don't mind the > > > > scrolling, but I want a (single) page that tells > > > > me what's going on without having to click a > > > > link and to wait for a second page to load. > > > > > > > > Here is a compromise design: > > > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index3.html > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Ph. > > > > > > > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 15:02, you wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 23 March 2008 12:09, Philipp K. Janert wrote: > > > >>> I have set up two mock-ups of the current > > > >>> home page with info about the book included. > > > >>> Please take a look. > > > >>> > > > >>> One is very close to the current design: > > > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index1.html > > > >>> > > > >>> The other one is a bit more contemporary, > > > >>> featuring a standard left-navbar: > > > >>> http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index2.html > > > >>> > > > >>> Let me know what you think. I'd like to get > > > >>> something up on the webpage very soon. > > > >> > > > >> Both of these fail my basic test for a homepage: > > > >> "Must fit on one screen without having to scroll". > > > >> > > > >> I'd rather just have something like this: > > > >> http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/homep > > > >>age. htm l > > > >> > > > >> Ethan > > > >> > > > >>> (If we decide to go with version 2, I am > > > >>> volunteering to update the other pages > > > >>> accordingly - i.e. to include a navbar, etc.) > > > >>> > > > >>> Best, > > > >>> > > > >>> Ph. > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>---- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > > >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> gnuplot-beta mailing list > > > >>> gnu...@li... > > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >---- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > > > gnu...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > gnu...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta |
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From: <pl...@pi...> - 2008-03-24 07:09:01
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:48:27 +0100, Philipp K. Janert <ja...@ie...> wrote: > > Alright. I'll try again. > > On Sunday 23 March 2008 21:32, you wrote: >> On Sunday 23 March 2008 19:43, Philipp K. Janert wrote: >> > Ok, here is another attempt, based on Ralf's >> > comment. >> > >> > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html >> > >> > At least on my screen, this does not wrap. >> >> It does on mine. >> 3. Woking With Data LOL, is that how the chinese cook thier results ? Seriously, I agree two graphics is a bit much. I'd suggest dropping the 2D since the other shows the full abilities of gnuplot. The whole upper section is too big in my view, about 2/3 of my browser window. You could let the menu start at top left (classic position) , this would reduce the overall height. The H1 is wrapping here and a quick look at sourse shows several typos that are probably causing irregular results as different browsers try to guess how it should render the faults. It seems , like me , you like to do your html by hand but the human eye is not the most efficient parser for checking typos. You could use a syntax aware editor (I use kdevelop or bluefish for html) of check out the online verification tools of w3c. http://validator.w3.org/check# >> This page is not Valid -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 >> transitional//en!Result: Failed validation, 18 Errors If you use Opera it has a rightclick option that submits the current page to this checker in one click, it gives you exact info on each error. HTH. In general , I agree with others that the TOC is a bit out of place here. The book is a great asset to gnuplot but probably should remain a minor part of the homepage. I also don't understand why the link Gnuplot in Action links back to the same page. This should go to the homepage of the book where stuff like TOC can be seen in detail. I find the main text is getting a bit too small. It's getting to the point where the font rendering is getting a somewhat distorted. Again this may be the result of errors in the markup. regards, Peter. |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-24 17:45:34
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On Monday 24 March 2008 00:09, pl...@pi... wrote: > The whole upper section is too big in my view, about 2/3 of my browser > window. You could let the menu start at top left (classic position) , this > would reduce the overall height. Yeah, something seems to have broken in the layout of that top section. That should be fixed, independent of anything to do with the book. A more complete css stylesheet could do wonders. Ethan > The H1 is wrapping here and a quick look at sourse shows several typos > that are probably causing irregular results as different browsers try to > guess how it should render the faults. > > It seems , like me , you like to do your html by hand but the human eye is > not the most efficient parser for checking typos. > > You could use a syntax aware editor (I use kdevelop or bluefish for html) > of check out the online verification tools of w3c. > http://validator.w3.org/check# > > >> This page is not Valid -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 > >> transitional//en!Result: Failed validation, 18 Errors > > If you use Opera it has a rightclick option that submits the current page > to this checker in one click, it gives you exact info on each error. HTH. > > > > In general , I agree with others that the TOC is a bit out of place here. > The book is a great asset to gnuplot but probably should remain a minor > part of the homepage. I also don't understand why the link Gnuplot in > Action links back to the same page. This should go to the homepage of the > book where stuff like TOC can be seen in detail. > > I find the main text is getting a bit too small. It's getting to the point > where the font rendering is getting a somewhat distorted. Again this may > be the result of errors in the markup. > > regards, Peter. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > gnuplot-beta mailing list > gnu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta > -- Ethan A Merritt Courier Deliveries: 1959 NE Pacific Dept of Biochemistry Health Sciences Building University of Washington - Seattle WA 98195-7742 |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-24 21:57:54
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On Monday 24 March 2008 10:45, Ethan Merritt wrote:
> On Monday 24 March 2008 00:09, pl...@pi... wrote:
> > The whole upper section is too big in my view, about 2/3 of my browser
> > window. You could let the menu start at top left (classic position) , this
> > would reduce the overall height.
>
> Yeah, something seems to have broken in the layout of that top section.
> That should be fixed, independent of anything to do with the book.
> A more complete css stylesheet could do wonders.
Cleaned up a bit on SourceForge, and used to show the dummied up
version of Philipp Janert's book announcement:
http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/
> > I find the main text is getting a bit too small. It's getting to the point
> > where the font rendering is getting a somewhat distorted. Again this may
> > be the result of errors in the markup.
Not sure what errors you were getting.
The only validation errors I get for the gnuplot home page are warnings
like "left-border: 3%" is deprecated syntax. There is no font-size markup
other than the header and footer.
--
Ethan A Merritt
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2008-03-24 22:59:34
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> Cleaned up a bit on SourceForge, and used to show the dummied up > version of Philipp Janert's book announcement: > http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/ I see the current change at http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net The bottom part is OK, but the top part ... I don't like. The two-column is too narrow, and the background colour is strange. Please revert it back. However, what would be nicer, is to "gnuplot homepage" title center over the "line" with "[Plot Figure] TOC [Splot Figure]". >From the previous discussion, it seems to be useful to put "NEWS" section on the page. I propose to put it on the current bottom. There, two columns could be used. Proposal: Current released ... Development version ... .... Here is ... <hr> NEWS: 24.3.2008: Testing binaries of 4.3 updated. | An upcoming book: ... 8.3.2008: Gnuplot 4.2.3 released. | ... | Proof-reading welcome. March 2008 *** Note: the NEWS section can also be used for adding short info about added new links, tutorials, or scripts elsewhere on the web page. |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-24 23:45:42
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On Monday 24 March 2008 15:59, Petr Mikulik wrote: > > Cleaned up a bit on SourceForge, and used to show the dummied up > > version of Philipp Janert's book announcement: > > http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/gnuplot/gphome/ > > I see the current change at > http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net > > The bottom part is OK, but the top part ... I don't like. The two-column is > too narrow, and the background colour is strange. Please revert it back. > > However, what would be nicer, is to "gnuplot homepage" title center > over the "line" with "[Plot Figure] TOC [Splot Figure]". OK. Ethan > >From the previous discussion, it seems to be useful to put "NEWS" section on > the page. I propose to put it on the current bottom. > There, two columns > could be used. > > Proposal: > > Current released ... Development version ... > .... > Here is ... > > <hr> > > NEWS: > 24.3.2008: Testing binaries of 4.3 updated. | An upcoming book: ... > 8.3.2008: Gnuplot 4.2.3 released. | ... > | Proof-reading welcome. > > > March 2008 > > > *** > > Note: the NEWS section can also be used for adding short info about added > new links, tutorials, or scripts elsewhere on the web page. -- Ethan A Merritt |
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From: Tim H. <tim...@un...> - 2008-03-25 13:43:28
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I'd apreciate a link to the sourceforge project page on the index page, maybe in the section of the development version. Furthermore I applied the changes announced in http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=477AA67C.2080607%40uni-bonn.de&forum_name=gnuplot-beta to the links page. sections front-ends and programming interfaces: - updated some broken links - moved items with broken links to "no longer available" if no current link found (original links commented out in source code) the new version can be found at http://home.arcor.de/lord_astfgl/links.html It would be nice, if you could update it to the page. Regards, Tim |
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From: Ethan A M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-25 15:03:35
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On Tuesday 25 March 2008 05:43, Tim Hoffmann wrote: > I'd apreciate a link to the sourceforge project page on the index page, > maybe in the section of the development version. > > > Furthermore I applied the changes announced in > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=477AA67C.2080607%40uni-bonn.de&forum_name=gnuplot-beta > to the links page. > sections front-ends and programming interfaces: > - updated some broken links > - moved items with broken links to "no longer available" if no current > link found (original links commented out in source code) > > the new version can be found at > http://home.arcor.de/lord_astfgl/links.html > It would be nice, if you could update it to the page. I notice you have replaced the relative links <a href="files/something.here"> with absolute links <a href="http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/files/something.here"> But this is maybe not such a good idea, since the web site is mirrored. For instance, people can use the http://gnuplot.info site even if SourceForge is unavailable. But if you mirror the absolute links, then the mirror site is no longer self-contained. I really don't want to take on the job of web site maintenance, so I'm just offering this as a comment. -- Ethan A Merritt |
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From: Tim H. <tim...@un...> - 2008-03-25 15:41:01
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> I notice you have replaced the relative links > <a href="files/something.here"> > with absolute links > <a href="http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/files/something.here"> > > But this is maybe not such a good idea, since the web site is mirrored. > For instance, people can use the http://gnuplot.info site even if > SourceForge is unavailable. But if you mirror the absolute links, then > the mirror site is no longer self-contained. Thanks. You're absolutely right. I didn't notice that Firefox changes absolute to relative links when saving a page. Now the links are relative again. > I really don't want to take on the job of web site maintenance, > so I'm just offering this as a comment. I'm not really sure if I understand you correctly. Does this mean you don't want to write code, but still can update a corrected file? Or is there someone else who maintains the website and I should address him for changes? |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-25 15:49:48
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On Tuesday 25 March 2008 08:40, Tim Hoffmann wrote: > > > I really don't want to take on the job of web site maintenance, > > so I'm just offering this as a comment. > I'm not really sure if I understand you correctly. Does this mean you > don't want to write code, but still can update a corrected file? Or is > there someone else who maintains the website and I should address him > for changes? Anyone on the development team can modify the web site files, including me. But so far as I know, there is no one in particular who is specifically responsible for the web site. I am more than busy enough keeping an eye on the codebase, and would rather someone else kept an eye on the web files. Any volunteers? -- Ethan A Merritt |
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From: Tino W. <ti...@wi...> - 2008-03-25 15:53:16
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Ethan Merritt wrote: > On Tuesday 25 March 2008 08:40, Tim Hoffmann wrote: >>> I really don't want to take on the job of web site maintenance, >>> so I'm just offering this as a comment. >> I'm not really sure if I understand you correctly. Does this mean you >> don't want to write code, but still can update a corrected file? Or is >> there someone else who maintains the website and I should address him >> for changes? > > Anyone on the development team can modify the web site files, > including me. But so far as I know, there is no one in particular > who is specifically responsible for the web site. I am more than > busy enough keeping an eye on the codebase, and would rather > someone else kept an eye on the web files. > > Any volunteers? Are they just plain files sitting in a directory? Accessible via ssh+public key? Regards Tino |
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2008-03-25 16:07:21
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> I'd apreciate a link to the sourceforge project page on the index page, > maybe in the section of the development version. ??? please send patch > Furthermore I applied the changes announced in > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=477AA67C.2080607%40uni-bonn.de&forum_name=gnuplot-beta > to the links page. > sections front-ends and programming interfaces: > - updated some broken links > - moved items with broken links to "no longer available" if no current > link found (original links commented out in source code) > > the new version can be found at > http://home.arcor.de/lord_astfgl/links.html > It would be nice, if you could update it to the page. Great, thanks! I've uploaded the file (with minor corrections in the header), please check it. I remember there was an announcement of JavaPlot, but I had no time to edit web pages. Any volunteer for contributions to web pages, as well as to the FAQ, is welcome. I propose this procedure for changes: - Get the html file via "wget", not "Save as" from web browsers (they do some strange things) The use of wget guarantees to get the page as-is. - Change it. - Send the result as a patch (command "diff -u old.html new.html"), or do it as you have done it via letting the modified page somewhere else on the web. For contributions to FAQ, please see http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/faq/index.html --- PM |
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From: Tim H. <tim...@un...> - 2008-03-25 17:11:24
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> I remember there was an announcement of JavaPlot, but I had no time to edit > web pages. Any volunteer for contributions to web pages, as well as to the > FAQ, is welcome. This is already included for a while. Accidentally it went in the front-end section rather than in the library section. Corrected: http://home.arcor.de/lord_astfgl/links.html Is there a reason why h3 is colored green in the css? I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, but it might be reasonable to have the website sourcecode included in the CVS. Tim |
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2008-03-25 18:22:16
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> Is there a reason why h3 is colored green in the css? No. It look strange. Patch for css welcome. > I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, but it might be reasonable to have the > website sourcecode included in the CVS. It might ... somebody would have to do it... |
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From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2008-03-25 18:27:02
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On Tuesday 25 March 2008 10:11, Tim Hoffmann wrote: > > I remember there was an announcement of JavaPlot, but I had no time to edit > > web pages. Any volunteer for contributions to web pages, as well as to the > > FAQ, is welcome. > This is already included for a while. Accidentally it went in the > front-end section rather than in the library section. Corrected: > http://home.arcor.de/lord_astfgl/links.html > > Is there a reason why h3 is colored green in the css? [shrug] I took the css file from one of my own web pages, where there is a consistent color scheme. But the gnuplot pages don't use the same conventions for category headings and div colors. -- Ethan A Merritt Courier Deliveries: 1959 NE Pacific Dept of Biochemistry Health Sciences Building University of Washington - Seattle WA 98195-7742 |
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From: <pl...@pi...> - 2008-03-25 18:36:16
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:57:42 +0100, Ethan Merritt <merritt@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Not sure what errors you were getting. > The only validation errors I get for the gnuplot home page are warnings > like "left-border: 3%" is deprecated syntax. There is no font-size > markup > other than the header and footer. > It should be pretty clear what errors there were , I posted a link to the validiator at w3c I used and cut and pasted most of the errors it showed. The fact the text was coming out other than intended could be due to any mark up error screwing up the parsing near the text concerned. It may misinterpret quite a bit before it gets back in sync. I saw no point in working out extactly why it was wrong until the maintainer of the page got it to validate. Some of the more recent links in this thread seem to be fixed since that text is coming out much more readably and "gnuplot homepage" is no longer wrapping. I'll wait for the dust to settle on these changes and post back if I still see anything out of place. Use of the w3c validator should get things in order anyway. regards. |
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From: <pl...@pi...> - 2008-03-25 19:15:17
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:36:35 +0100, <pl...@pi...> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:57:42 +0100, Ethan Merritt > <merritt@u.washington.edu> wrote: > >> Not sure what errors you were getting. >> The only validation errors I get for the gnuplot home page are warnings >> like "left-border: 3%" is deprecated syntax. There is no font-size >> markup >> other than the header and footer. >> > > > It should be pretty clear what errors there were , I posted a link to the > validiator at w3c I used and cut and pasted most of the errors it showed. > > The fact the text was coming out other than intended could be due to any > mark up error screwing up the parsing near the text concerned. It may > misinterpret quite a bit before it gets back in sync. > > I saw no point in working out extactly why it was wrong until the > maintainer of the page got it to validate. > > Some of the more recent links in this thread seem to be fixed since that > text is coming out much more readably and "gnuplot homepage" is no longer > wrapping. > > I'll wait for the dust to settle on these changes and post back if I > still > see anything out of place. > > Use of the w3c validator should get things in order anyway. > > regards. > BTW you currently have at least three things calling themselves "gnuplot homepage": http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/index.html http://www.gnuplot.info/ http://www.gnuplot.info/documentation.html My comments were based on 2) the top google result , 3) would seems to be an incorrect title but is coming up 2nd place on google. The one you all seem to be calling the homepage is not even in the top 30 google results , so I guess you need to be on the team to know it's there. While there is some work being done on the site content you may want to rationalise some of the confusion there. regards, Peter. |
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From: Petr M. <mi...@ph...> - 2008-03-26 08:06:42
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> > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html I've added "News" section, see gnuplot.sourceforge.net --- PM |
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From: Philipp K. J. <ja...@ie...> - 2008-03-26 15:00:51
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That's cool! Could you please make the file (index.html) group-writable? Currently, nobody but you can touch it. Best, Ph. On Wednesday 26 March 2008 01:06, you wrote: > > > http://philipp-janert.com/gnuplot/www/index4.html > > I've added "News" section, see > gnuplot.sourceforge.net > > --- > PM |
