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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-07-28 09:37:29
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On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 01:37, Scott Kindley wrote: > Hello Friends, > > There are many changes happening behind the scenes right now in regard > to moving the servers and adjusting DNS settings for envolution sires > and resources. > > I would ask you to please be patient as we move forward. Gotta Love eNvolution. > > I know from past experience that changes such as this take place in an > open source project many people get nervous and worried. Alfred E. Neumen Clause. > > There is no need to worry Envolution lives on and is strong. The needs of the many will always outweigh the needs of the few. > > After DNS propagates we can all meet and chat about development and > changes that are certainly coming. Everyones input is appriciated and > sorely needed. Still has not propagated yet. I'm ***Unable to resolve IRC server > > You can meet on the Envolution IRC channel at irc.envolution.com port > 6667 in channel #envolution once the DNS propagates. Things will be slow > on IRC until everyone can reach it and leanr about it but once it gets > going I think it will bring us all closer together. I'm sure it will. > > Eric Barr a.k.a ApathyBoy is the new Project Manager for Envolution. Congratulations and welcome back. Does this affect www.envolution.com group permissions or am I observing precautionary lockout procedures during site transfer and propagation. > > He will need, and be appriciative of, your thoughts and suggestions. So > please do not hesiatate to contact him via AIM instant messenger with > his screenname "apathynight" or via email at apa...@ap... Does he have MSN? > > I'm sure we will be having a meeting sometime this weekend to discuss > matters and reorganize. Will the meeting occur on irc.envolution.com > > In the meantime I need each member who wishes to particpate in > development to email me perosnally with their SourceForge login name so > I can add you to the developer list at SourceForge. Hi my Sourceforge login name is elgie and I see I'm not a promoter any longer and that I have been made a developer. Wow and I've yet to make a single commit yet. > This is also a good > way to determine who is active and who is inactive. Currently CVS will > be frozen to clean up the repositories and allow SF staff to clear out a > few stale locks which have caused some problems lately with CVS. > > Once the websites are reloacted and DNS changes take place we should get > back up to speed rather quickly. > > In the short term (next 48-72 hours) there may be periods of downtime > while server transfers take place. Godspeed! ***Connect retry #384 irc.envolution.com > > Thanks, > > Zoom > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-07-28 07:37:58
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Hello Friends, There are many changes happening behind the scenes right now in regard to moving the servers and adjusting DNS settings for envolution sires and resources. I would ask you to please be patient as we move forward. I know from past experience that changes such as this take place in an open source project many people get nervous and worried. There is no need to worry Envolution lives on and is strong. After DNS propagates we can all meet and chat about development and changes that are certainly coming. Everyones input is appriciated and sorely needed. You can meet on the Envolution IRC channel at irc.envolution.com port 6667 in channel #envolution once the DNS propagates. Things will be slow on IRC until everyone can reach it and leanr about it but once it gets going I think it will bring us all closer together. Eric Barr a.k.a ApathyBoy is the new Project Manager for Envolution. He will need, and be appriciative of, your thoughts and suggestions. So please do not hesiatate to contact him via AIM instant messenger with his screenname "apathynight" or via email at apa...@ap... I'm sure we will be having a meeting sometime this weekend to discuss matters and reorganize. In the meantime I need each member who wishes to particpate in development to email me perosnally with their SourceForge login name so I can add you to the developer list at SourceForge. This is also a good way to determine who is active and who is inactive. Currently CVS will be frozen to clean up the repositories and allow SF staff to clear out a few stale locks which have caused some problems lately with CVS. Once the websites are reloacted and DNS changes take place we should get back up to speed rather quickly. In the short term (next 48-72 hours) there may be periods of downtime while server transfers take place. Thanks, Zoom |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-07-28 07:28:17
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-07-28 07:15:52
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OK, now I understand the whole thing. And I say who cares? In the credits there are all the people that are working and have worke= d on the project, so what do we need more? There are more important thins to debate: please visit http://forums.postnuke.com/index.php?name=3DPNphpBB2&file=3Dviewtopic&p= =3D50426#50426 just to read some. Luca |---------+--------------------------------------------> | | Stefan K=F6hler | | | <s.k...@pr...> | | | Inviato da: | | | env...@li...ur| | | ceforge.net | | | | | | | | | 07/27/2003 12:11 AM | | | Per favore, rispondere a | | | envolution-devel | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------| | = | | Per: <env...@li...> = | | Cc: = | | Oggetto: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution= | >--------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------| What for commercial links do you mean? There are no commercial links. The only links at the end of installation routine are the link to maxso= s and gah. We don't make any money with these links and we get no money from the companies for it. But they gave us TIME to bring up eNvolution to which it is today. Only in our spare time as hobbyist we wouldn't have create it. This is only to say a "little thanks for your understanding". This has nothing to do with prophit, even if maxsos is the company of T= iMax (what everybody knows). And I think this short explaination is enough. We don't discuss it in details. Nobody else has problems with this links (I heart no other comments up = to now). WindMeUp [eNvo-Dev-Team] [Lead-Developer] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it.= I > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard cod= ing > commercial links into the installation which would profit one develop= er. > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the servers > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that= . I > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to ap= pear > commercialist in anyway. > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and t= heir > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on you= r > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the w= ork of > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites includ= ing > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_0= 1/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites includin= g > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_0= 1/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_0= 1/01 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel = |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-07-28 06:58:34
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From: Theresa A. S. <the...@ea...> - 2003-07-28 06:10:02
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Hello Luca, Not really a good time yet, check out this: http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=324 Maybe in the next few days when things calm down a bit and everybody falls into place something will be announced about these new features. Theresa Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: <Luc...@cs...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:57 PM Subject: [Envolution-devel] envo13 > > Lots and lots of news. > I see with pleasure dirs like envo_eLearning, envo_osCommerce and various > other things. > I'm very pleased, Max do you have something to tell us ;-)))? > What are this nice addings? Imerely ask because I missed a few tinghs and I > believe that an introduction of the noveltyes could be a good thing. > I believe that big things avait in the next months. > BTW do we have a milestone? > I believe that in a week will be able to complete the submissions of our > mods. > Luca > N¬HS^µésS[)¢{(ç[ÈZÞzsÞn襴4DìS׬Sw%¹Ø§?6i©¢»lÊ&TêÜxú+µ©ljwE¢»¦±ªÞjö¢. ¦åzz0O'-?¶?ZÉ©Ýz{^®Ú0Sv§\-¢µb²æ¥JÛSfDNm§ÿÚ²TÞµÉbrK«.Ê&þ > ?¦Æ´Ó]4ÓMÚ½ïÝS·oµ«Z²TÞ·NößMô×ý5{è-ëb¢w^½éfj)bz b²Ñ'¾?n¶*'uëÞ-X¬¶Ë(º· ~Sàzw?Ûi³ÿåSËl²<«qç讧zßåSËlþX¬¶)ߣ÷§¾?n¶*'uëÞ |
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From: Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...> - 2003-07-27 10:47:04
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:48:06 -0500, Denver Prophit Jr. wrote > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate > it. I raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about > hard coding commercial links into the installation which would > profit one developer.[...] Hi Denver, I would like you to know the different between take a direct profit for personal benefit and the promotion links. If you put your name, links, banners in envo [anywhere in source code, site etc] then TiMax ask you to pay then the money goes to TiMax pocket, it means TiMax take a direct profit for his own benefit. In this case, you or all of our community have the right to concern. But he did not do that way! If you open all code sources you will find a promotion links around. Whatever the target are, to promote your self as hobbyst, professionals etc, anybody who involved in envo community has the right to put their promotion links, as long as they contribute with this community. Contribution to the opensource can behalf on your personal name, your company name or your friends name. All of these are legal as long as you are not paying anything or get paid for anything. Promotion links are not always intend for commercial target. There are lot of opensource people who want to build the network communities, exploring their hobby, skill contribute it to community for free. I'm running my own business over than ten years, there is a Chinese word I always keep in my mind: never calculate others fortune, just see your own hand. As an Indonesian I have my own philosophy, I always start my day based on my feeling, my faith and trust. Best regards, sjah |
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From: Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...> - 2003-07-27 08:36:30
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Hi TiMax, Just think twice about this please :) You already spent lot of hours, in eNvo so don't give up because of some contra comments. eNvo has lot of new members, and if you see in forum most of them are appreciate with this product. sjah On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:20:40 -0400, TiMax - Envolution wrote > Sorry boy but i m tired and i resign from all of eNvolution, i m > tired to see these comments, i m tired to work for 18 hours each day > for eNvolution project and receive only a bads and stupids comments, > and also from people don't active in developement. > > I m tired to be always a destination of all bads comments, so i > resign and i start my own project where i think i m able to add all > i want in my sites i hope. > > And you know when someone do it for passion ..... bad comments are > very bad comments. > > I give you one week if someone want to continue my work and found > another servers to host eNvolution project and related site, now i > use 4 servers + sourgeforge server + Stefan server to make a backup. > When someone are ready i can send it all backups and bla bla bla. > > Bye > > TiMax |
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From: Denver P. Jr. <den...@co...> - 2003-07-27 07:28:57
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I see you keep logs that far back on people. That's fine. you told me today you never asked for money. That was your deal. Can't say that I could afford to spend that much money on a hobby. This is a hobby right? The more I say the more you attack me. I will not honor anymore reponses from this thread. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TiMax" <ma...@em...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution How you can say thank you without promoting ?? we have added only a link ...... no description no promotion and you are very original ......... i remember that => Denver <=: I didn't touch it yet but could you edit the credits file shown at end of install with my name in there as English Document Writer? => Denver <=: in CVS Massimo®: yes sure ....... Massimo®: sorry i forgot it => Denver <=: dprophit Denver Prophit Jr English Document Translations So for you credits is right ..... but for company pay for hosting, services, registration domain name etc .... that is not right ......... very original ........ TiMax On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:37:44 -0500, Denver Prophit Jr. wrote: > You can say thank you without promoting one's business. If it's money > include a donation link for paypal where funds go toward the server bill. I > object only to hard coded commercial links that benefit on a personal level. > He is angry with me because I chose to comment in public where others views > can be heard not just the dev team. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Köhler" <s.k...@pr...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > What for commercial links do you mean? > > There are no commercial links. > > The only links at the end of installation routine are the link to maxsos > and > > gah. > > We don't make any money with these links and we get no money from the > > companies for it. > > But they gave us TIME to bring up eNvolution to which it is today. > > Only in our spare time as hobbyist we wouldn't have create it. > > This is only to say a "little thanks for your understanding". > > > > This has nothing to do with prophit, even if maxsos is the company of > TiMax > > (what everybody knows). > > > > And I think this short explaination is enough. We don't discuss it in > > details. > > Nobody else has problems with this links (I heart no other comments up to > > now). > > > > WindMeUp > > [eNvo-Dev-Team] > > [Lead-Developer] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> > > To: <env...@li...> > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > > > > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I > > > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding > > > commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. > > > > > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the > > servers > > > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. > I > > > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to > appear > > > commercialist in anyway. > > > > > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and > their > > > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > > > > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > > > To: <env...@li...> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > > > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > > > > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > > > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work > > of > > > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > > > Env...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > > Env...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > __________ NOD32 1.467 (20030723) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. 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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-07-27 02:25:42
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How you can say thank you without promoting ?? we have added only a link= ...... no description no promotion and you are very original ......... i remember that =3D> Denver <=3D: I didn't touch it yet but could you edit the credits file shown at end of= install with my name in there as English Document Writer? =3D> Denver <=3D: in CVS Massimo=AE: yes sure ....... Massimo=AE: sorry i forgot it =3D> Denver <=3D: dprophit Denver Prophit Jr English Document Translations So for you credits is right ..... but for company pay for hosting, services,= registration domain name etc .... that is not right ......... very original ........ TiMax On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:37:44 -0500, Denver Prophit Jr. wrote: > You can say thank you without promoting one's business. If it's money > include a donation link for paypal where funds go toward the server bill.= I > object only to hard coded commercial links that benefit on a personal= level. > He is angry with me because I chose to comment in public where others= views > can be heard not just the dev team. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan K=F6hler" <s.k...@pr...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > What for commercial links do you mean? > > There are no commercial links. > > The only links at the end of installation routine are the link to= maxsos > and > > gah. > > We don't make any money with these links and we get no money from the > > companies for it. > > But they gave us TIME to bring up eNvolution to which it is today. > > Only in our spare time as hobbyist we wouldn't have create it. > > This is only to say a "little thanks for your understanding". > > > > This has nothing to do with prophit, even if maxsos is the company of > TiMax > > (what everybody knows). > > > > And I think this short explaination is enough. We don't discuss it in > > details. > > Nobody else has problems with this links (I heart no other comments up= to > > now). > > > > WindMeUp > > [eNvo-Dev-Team] > > [Lead-Developer] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> > > To: <env...@li...> > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > > > > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it.= I > > > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard= coding > > > commercial links into the installation which would profit one= developer. > > > > > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the > > servers > > > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do= that. > I > > > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to > appear > > > commercialist in anyway. > > > > > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and > their > > > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > > > > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > > > To: <env...@li...> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > > > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > > > > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on= your > > > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the= work > > of > > > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites= including > > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > > > > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > > > Env...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites= including > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > > > > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > > Env...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > __________ NOD32 1.467 (20030723) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com |
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From: Denver P. Jr. <den...@co...> - 2003-07-26 22:38:20
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You can say thank you without promoting one's business. If it's money include a donation link for paypal where funds go toward the server bill. I object only to hard coded commercial links that benefit on a personal level. He is angry with me because I chose to comment in public where others views can be heard not just the dev team. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Köhler" <s.k...@pr...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > What for commercial links do you mean? > There are no commercial links. > The only links at the end of installation routine are the link to maxsos and > gah. > We don't make any money with these links and we get no money from the > companies for it. > But they gave us TIME to bring up eNvolution to which it is today. > Only in our spare time as hobbyist we wouldn't have create it. > This is only to say a "little thanks for your understanding". > > This has nothing to do with prophit, even if maxsos is the company of TiMax > (what everybody knows). > > And I think this short explaination is enough. We don't discuss it in > details. > Nobody else has problems with this links (I heart no other comments up to > now). > > WindMeUp > [eNvo-Dev-Team] > [Lead-Developer] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I > > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding > > commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. > > > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the > servers > > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. I > > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to appear > > commercialist in anyway. > > > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and their > > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > > To: <env...@li...> > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work > of > > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > > Env...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: <s.k...@pr...> - 2003-07-26 22:11:22
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What for commercial links do you mean? There are no commercial links. The only links at the end of installation routine are the link to maxsos and gah. We don't make any money with these links and we get no money from the companies for it. But they gave us TIME to bring up eNvolution to which it is today. Only in our spare time as hobbyist we wouldn't have create it. This is only to say a "little thanks for your understanding". This has nothing to do with prophit, even if maxsos is the company of TiMax (what everybody knows). And I think this short explaination is enough. We don't discuss it in details. Nobody else has problems with this links (I heart no other comments up to now). WindMeUp [eNvo-Dev-Team] [Lead-Developer] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding > commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the servers > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. I > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to appear > commercialist in anyway. > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and their > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work of > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-07-26 22:01:40
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First is not my arguement ... we have talked a lot about it with Stefan,= Zoom Sjah etc to found also good word to use ..... maybe if you are a little better active you can check it better,also= because it is in cvs from a couple of months. We have add two links because these company help our project with host= server, services of backup etc ... and all people have see that, approved it ..... ... only you come after two months to put pubblic comment in envolution.com= site ...... good TiMax On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:48:06 -0500, Denver Prophit Jr. wrote: > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding > commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the= servers > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. = I > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to= appear > commercialist in anyway. > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and= their > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work= of > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > = http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01= > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > __________ NOD32 1.467 (20030723) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com |
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From: Theresa A. S. <the...@ea...> - 2003-07-26 21:59:47
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Hello, I see the arguments of both sides now and really don't cast my support either way. But I do think it can be resolved without Max resigning and creating more bad blood...please everybody just take a breath, a vacation, or whatever you want to call it...clear your mind and think about it before making rash movements that could hurt the community. Theresa PS. Why am I in such a peaceful mood today??? LOL Usually I am kick ass and ask questions later...guess my mexican blood is starting to cool off. hehe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denver Prophit Jr." <den...@co...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I > raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding > commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. > > His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the servers > and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. I > recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to appear > commercialist in anyway. > > I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and their > opinion was needed not just the people on this list. > > I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> > To: <env...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM > Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > > > > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work of > > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > |
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From: Denver P. Jr. <den...@co...> - 2003-07-26 21:48:41
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So everyone knows...and I do not want to argue about it or debate it. I raised my concerns in open view to the whole community about hard coding commercial links into the installation which would profit one developer. His arguement was that he invest and large amount of money into the servers and never asked for money so he felt he deserved the right to do that. I recall a great deal of heat over a discussion about not wanting to appear commercialist in anyway. I made my comments open because it affected the whole community and their opinion was needed not just the people on this list. I may be wrong in my actions who knows. It was only my opinion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: i resign from eNvolution > I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your > decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work of > TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this > > TiMax, we're all with you here > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: putino <pu...@pu...> - 2003-07-26 21:11:45
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I show all my support for TiMax and I hope he'll return back on your decision... It's very important of all of us the presence and the work of TiMax, and i appeal him to think again about this TiMax, we're all with you here |
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From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-07-26 20:38:10
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On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 15:24, Stefan K=C3=B6hler wrote: > I'm very sorry to hear that :(( > But I am sure that you do not mean that serious. > eNvolution is on the right way and it would be stupid to kill that proj= ect > after 1 year existance. > You bore it, it is your child. I hope you consider it again. >=20 > WindMeUp >=20 Max is serious but I think if we all show him some support then perhaps he won't quit. No matter what happens though the project won't die. Max doesn't want that to happen either. Perhaps he just needs a break. Zoom |
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From: <s.k...@pr...> - 2003-07-26 20:24:15
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I'm very sorry to hear that :(( But I am sure that you do not mean that serious. eNvolution is on the right way and it would be stupid to kill that project after 1 year existance. You bore it, it is your child. I hope you consider it again. WindMeUp ----- Original Message ----- From: "TiMax - Envolution" <web...@en...> To: <Env...@li...> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: [Envolution-devel] i resign from eNvolution Sorry boy but i m tired and i resign from all of eNvolution, i m tired to see these comments, i m tired to work for 18 hours each day for eNvolution project and receive only a bads and stupids comments, and also from people don't active in developement. I m tired to be always a destination of all bads comments, so i resign and i start my own project where i think i m able to add all i want in my sites i hope. And you know when someone do it for passion ..... bad comments are very bad comments. I give you one week if someone want to continue my work and found another servers to host eNvolution project and related site, now i use 4 servers + sourgeforge server + Stefan server to make a backup. When someone are ready i can send it all backups and bla bla bla. Bye TiMax ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-07-26 19:40:38
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On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 14:20, TiMax - Envolution wrote: > Sorry boy but i m tired and i resign from all of eNvolution, i m tired to see these comments, i m tired to work for 18 > hours each day for eNvolution project and receive only a bads and stupids comments, and also from people don't active in > developement. > > I m tired to be always a destination of all bads comments, so i resign and i start my own project where i think i m able > to add all i want in my sites i hope. > > And you know when someone do it for passion ..... bad comments are very bad comments. > > I give you one week if someone want to continue my work and found another servers to host eNvolution project and related > site, now i use 4 servers + sourgeforge server + Stefan server to make a backup. > When someone are ready i can send it all backups and bla bla bla. > > Bye > > > TiMax > We agreed that should you not wish continue to run envo that you would turn it back over to Brian, Brandon, and me. We have the server resources to host it on. Contact me and I will start the process. Zoom |
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From: TiMax - E. <web...@en...> - 2003-07-26 19:20:16
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Sorry boy but i m tired and i resign from all of eNvolution, i m tired to= see these comments, i m tired to work for 18 hours each day for eNvolution project and receive only a bads and stupids= comments, and also from people don't active in developement. I m tired to be always a destination of all bads comments, so i resign and i= start my own project where i think i m able to add all i want in my sites i hope. And you know when someone do it for passion ..... bad comments are very bad= comments. I give you one week if someone want to continue my work and found another= servers to host eNvolution project and related site, now i use 4 servers + sourgeforge server + Stefan server to make a= backup. When someone are ready i can send it all backups and bla bla bla. Bye TiMax |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-07-26 14:24:42
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Once I have done it with Max. Now I'll be a week in holliday:) Am Fre, 2003-07-25 um 05.24 schrieb romeo bandinelli .:Envolution.info:.: > The cvs server is ready and running from many days, and I sent all the > username and the password some days ago to Max, so if you want to work on > the cvs server also for other project than envo core, ask him your password... > > If you have some request on the cvs server ask me. > In the next month I would like to pass to ssh cvs chrooted server. If > someone can help me, or have already set up a similar server please contact > me... > > Romeo aka cino > > > > At 00.01 25/07/03 +0200, you wrote: > >For postwrap we have also german lang-files on eNvo.de > >I will transmit it to CVS if envo13 branch is ready to use and postwrap is > >available there. > > > >WindMeUp > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: TiMax - E. <web...@en...> - 2003-07-25 20:51:16
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eNvoaddon still under construction but i think soon we can promote it. eNvoaddon is site only to show modules and blocks work with eNvolution, Little news with brief description of modules or blocks Six home pages to show better blocks and modules It is multilanguage Support are redirect in support site with language you have select Download are redirect also in support site with language you have select. If someone want to help to manage it in other languages please contact me= ti...@en... or Putino pu...@pu... TiMax |
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From: TiMax - E. <web...@en...> - 2003-07-25 17:40:57
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Please note that, i just updated envo13 cvs with new adodb Version 3.60. I tested it in different sites without any problem, also in envo.com and= envo.it, but i think it is better compatible with new version of php. TiMax |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-07-25 15:10:54
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:{o}
Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 23.11 schrieb TiMax:
>
> I m happy to inform you about that
>
> I just talk with apathyboy, he want to help us and work to re-wamp envrender documentation and write some examples to
> use it ....
>
> TiMax
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2003 14:10:33 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just before MADHATter7 left Envolution to persue other things he and
> > ApathyBoy wrote a rendering API to address the presentation layer. It's
> > been in the packaging for quite sometime and gone unnoticed I think.
> >
> > It's includes/envRender.php
> >
> > It is documented at:
> >
> > http://www.envolution.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=162
> >
> > envRender eliminates the Zone system and provides the theme designer
> > 100% control over page layout.
> >
> > With envRender you are allowed to have layout organization as powerful
> > as with the old Frontpage module only in any module. It still uses
> > smarty but is not attached to it. It's an abstraction layer that any
> > template engine can use above it. And it elimenates the need for pnHTML
> > altogether.
> >
> > Postnuke also has the envRender that MADHATter7 and ApathyBoy created
> > but honestly neither PN or Envo developers have attempted to use it as
> > far as I can tell.
> >
> > Perhaps it's time to take the lead and see what we can do with this
> > software.
> >
> > If anyone needs any help with this ApathyBoy asked me to invite anyone
> > to contact him and he will explain it in detail and help out all he can.
> > He can be reached via AIM ...his username is apathynight.
> >
> > Zoom
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-07-25 15:06:14
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Me, not in eNvo but at my workplace ;) Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 09.27 schrieb Luc...@cs...: > > I'm starting tinking about LDAP integration of the user module, is anyone > already working on it? > Luca |
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