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RE: [ebxmlms-develop] (no subject)

[Ronald v. K. <rv...@ab...>]

Hi,

Read the thread about "MSH and ClientWebApp on same server". You probably
ran into this bug/design flaw in SAAJ as well.

Ronald

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@ma...]
> Verzonden: vrijdag 14 maart 2003 4:25
> Aan: ebx...@li...
> Onderwerp: [ebxmlms-develop] (no subject)
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying the route of embedded server that Patrick outlined here:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1535909
> &forum_id=12670
> 
> I'm getting an error and was wondering if there is a known 
> cause for the
> problem below? All the JAR files are definitely present. I 
> took a quick
> browse at the SAAJ sources and MessageFactory.newInstance() uses the
> context classloader and the context classloader contains the JAR with
> the MessageFactoryImpl within it.
> 
> [error]
> tpi: org.zenplex.tambora.tpi.Tpi@13981b
> Info: using property file in
> /home/jvanzyl/js/org.zenplex/tambora-3/target/runtime/conf/msh
> .properties.xml
> hk.hku.cecid.phoenix.message.handler.MessageServiceHandlerException:
> Default message factory cannot be instantiated.
> 
> I'll keep hunting in the meantime. Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
> ja...@ze...
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
> 
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] (no subject)

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Hi,

What version of Hermes are you using? The latest source tree in CVS? I have
met that error messages once in the past, but I am not sure whether we are
hitting the same problem or not.

It happened when I tried to deploy an old version of Hermes to Weblogic. The
class loader of Weblogic is a bit too smart. We suspect msh.jar is loaded
before the SAAJ ones. And at that time, we have some initialization work
done in the static initializers, which will load the MessageFactory in SAAJ.
Somehow the static initializer is called before SAAJ is loaded and we
suspect that triggers the error and results in that error message. When we
removed the static initializers, the error gone. The latest source should
have the static initializers removed. So, that's why I ask the question in
the top of this mail. But at least, this can serve as an information for
further tracing. :-)

Regards, -Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@ma...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] (no subject)


> Hi,
>
> I'm trying the route of embedded server that Patrick outlined here:
>
>
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1535909&forum_id=1267
0
>
> I'm getting an error and was wondering if there is a known cause for the
> problem below? All the JAR files are definitely present. I took a quick
> browse at the SAAJ sources and MessageFactory.newInstance() uses the
> context classloader and the context classloader contains the JAR with
> the MessageFactoryImpl within it.
>
> [error]
> tpi: org.zenplex.tambora.tpi.Tpi@13981b
> Info: using property file in
>
/home/jvanzyl/js/org.zenplex/tambora-3/target/runtime/conf/msh.properties.xm
l
> hk.hku.cecid.phoenix.message.handler.MessageServiceHandlerException:
> Default message factory cannot be instantiated.
>
> I'll keep hunting in the meantime. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> ja...@ze...
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
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> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
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>
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] By Passing the stub part 2

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Hi,

My immediate thought is: this will not be much simpler than using servlet
container.

We have to implement/use a HTTP server. In which the HTTP post data are
received and then we should pass it to the MessageServiceHandler instance.
Currently, the entry point at MessageServiceHandler is doPost(), which takes
HttpServletRequest as argument. That means we have to implement a
HttpServletRequest to encapsulate the HTTP post data.

How can this be improved? Abandon doPost()? In that case, we may need to
design another entry point to accept incoming messages. Do you have any
suggestion?

Regards, -Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@ma...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] By Passing the stub part 2


> Hi,
>
> It's been a while but I'm back at the ebxml goodies. I posted a question
> about by passing the stub and essentially embedding the server in my
> application and I wanted to go further with this.
>
> Would there be a simple way to exclusively use this embedded server and
> by pass servlets and the use of a servlet container. I realize I might
> have to use a small http server but I would rather do that than need a
> servlet container.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> ja...@ze...
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
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>
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>
>
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and msh_client.properties.xml

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Yes, this is proven. We have tried to deploy multiple MSH instances in one
Tomcat using this approach.

Cheers, -Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mayne, Peter" <Pet...@ap...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and
msh_client.properties.xml


> I put mine in webapps\msh\WEB-INF\classes. (The classes directory has to
be
> created, of course.)
>
> I haven't tried multiple MSH instances in one Tomcat, though.
>
> PJDM
> --
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> Technology Consultant
> Spherion Technology Solutions
> Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
> T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Novich, Jonathan [mailto:jon...@la...]
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 5:35 AM
> To: 'ebx...@li...'
> Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and
> msh_client.properties.xml
>
>
> Hi-
>
> As a newcomer to this project - great work so far!  Having just built a
> prototype of an Axis-based ebxml message
> service, I really appreciate all the hard work you have done!
>
> I've got a question about msh.properties.xml and
msh_client.properties.xml.
> I've read the docs on the precedence of directories to search for these
> files,
> and I looked the source code - and wanted to understand whether we could
> come up
> with an additional rule of where to look for these files - perhaps
somewhere
> in the war?
>
> Ultimately, I'd love to have two instances running under the same
appserver
> for testing (if possible).
> Is there some other limitation I should be aware of before pursuing this
> approach?
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> -Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Novich
> System Architect
> Lavastorm Engineering Inc.
> jon...@la...
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[ebxmlms-develop] (no subject)

[Jason v. Z. <ja...@ma...>]

Hi,

I'm trying the route of embedded server that Patrick outlined here:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1535909&forum_id=12670

I'm getting an error and was wondering if there is a known cause for the
problem below? All the JAR files are definitely present. I took a quick
browse at the SAAJ sources and MessageFactory.newInstance() uses the
context classloader and the context classloader contains the JAR with
the MessageFactoryImpl within it.

[error]
tpi: org.zenplex.tambora.tpi.Tpi@13981b
Info: using property file in
/home/jvanzyl/js/org.zenplex/tambora-3/target/runtime/conf/msh.properties.xml
hk.hku.cecid.phoenix.message.handler.MessageServiceHandlerException:
Default message factory cannot be instantiated.

I'll keep hunting in the meantime. Thanks.


-- 
jvz.

Jason van Zyl
ja...@ze...
http://tambora.zenplex.org

In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society

[ebxmlms-develop] By Passing the stub part 2

[Jason v. Z. <ja...@ma...>]

Hi,

It's been a while but I'm back at the ebxml goodies. I posted a question
about by passing the stub and essentially embedding the server in my
application and I wanted to go further with this.

Would there be a simple way to exclusively use this embedded server and
by pass servlets and the use of a servlet container. I realize I might
have to use a small http server but I would rather do that than need a
servlet container.

-- 
jvz.

Jason van Zyl
ja...@ze...
http://tambora.zenplex.org

In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society

RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and msh_c lient.properties.xml

[Mayne, P. <Pet...@ap...>]

I put mine in webapps\msh\WEB-INF\classes. (The classes directory has to be
created, of course.)

I haven't tried multiple MSH instances in one Tomcat, though.

PJDM
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Technology Consultant
Spherion Technology Solutions
Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777 
-----Original Message-----
From: Novich, Jonathan [mailto:jon...@la...] 
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 5:35 AM
To: 'ebx...@li...'
Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and
msh_client.properties.xml


Hi-

As a newcomer to this project - great work so far!  Having just built a
prototype of an Axis-based ebxml message
service, I really appreciate all the hard work you have done!

I've got a question about msh.properties.xml and msh_client.properties.xml.
I've read the docs on the precedence of directories to search for these
files,
and I looked the source code - and wanted to understand whether we could
come up
with an additional rule of where to look for these files - perhaps somewhere
in the war?

Ultimately, I'd love to have two instances running under the same appserver
for testing (if possible).
Is there some other limitation I should be aware of before pursuing this
approach?

Thanks so much!

-Jonathan

Jonathan Novich
System Architect
Lavastorm Engineering Inc.
jon...@la...
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[ebxmlms-develop] Question about msh.properties.xml and msh_client.properties.xml

[Novich, J. <jon...@la...>]

Hi-
 
As a newcomer to this project - great work so far!  Having just built a
prototype of an Axis-based ebxml message
service, I really appreciate all the hard work you have done!
 
I've got a question about msh.properties.xml and msh_client.properties.xml.
I've read the docs on the precedence of directories to search for these
files,
and I looked the source code - and wanted to understand whether we could
come up
with an additional rule of where to look for these files - perhaps somewhere
in the war?
 
Ultimately, I'd love to have two instances running under the same appserver
for testing (if possible).
Is there some other limitation I should be aware of before pursuing this
approach?
 
Thanks so much!
 
-Jonathan
 
Jonathan Novich
System Architect
Lavastorm Engineering Inc.
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<mailto:jon...@la...> 
 
 

RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[Ng C. Y. [Cyng] <cy...@cs...>]

Hello,

> As an aside, what's the difference between 4.1.18 and 4.1.18 LE, besides
> the LE version having a few less jars?

        Tomcat full version includes its own Xerces parser, activation.jar
(JAF), mail.jar (JavaMail), etc. in common/lib and common/endorsed whose
versions may be different from (and may conflict with) those provided in
webapps/*/WEB-INF/lib of MSH. Since JDK 1.4 has its Xerces parser already,
LE version need not bundle a set of libraries in common/lib or common/endorsed.
You just need to patch xalan.jar in this case.
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Mayne, Peter wrote:

Regards,
CY

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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Client certificate authentication

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Client certificate authenticationUnfortunately, Hermes is not supporting =
the use of client certificate authentication right now. -Patrick
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:55 PM
  Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Client certificate authentication


  I'm trying to send ebXML messages to an HTTPS site that requires =
client certificate authentication.=20

  I have the HTTPS part working, but only by putting the web site's =
certificate's CA certificate in the JAVA_HOME\jre\lib\security\cacerts =
file. Hermes doesn't seem to be seeing my definitions of =
javax.net.ssl.trustStore and javax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword.

  Since it doesn't see those definitions, it probably won't see my =
definition of javax.net.ssl.keyStore et al either.=20

  What is the recommended way of telling Hermes where a trustStore is, =
and what client certificate to use when authenticating to an HTTPS site?

  Thanks.=20

  PJDM=20
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - =
Anything new?Peter, relax. We just want to know more about your =
environment. You know, we just want to ensure there is no =
mis-understanding here.

For your information, the error message you get is not generated by us. =
It is from the XML security library. Please check =
http://xml.apache.org/security/install.html for more information.

We are trying to repeat your problem here, that's why we need to know =
exactly the setting of your tomcat. By the way, we have just tried to =
setup in Tomcat 4.1.18 LE release, and it is ok. And we will try Tomcat =
4.1.18 full release soon.

Sigh, -Patrick
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails =
to start - Anything new?


  Blast, I swear I did that to get it working in the first place.=20

  Sigh.=20

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  > > class =20
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Paranoid security request

[Ng C. Y. [Cyng] <cy...@cs...>]

Hi,

> Can the Utility.generateMessageId() method please be changed to not use the
> IP address of the system.
> Using this address leaks information to the outside world about the internal
> network that the system is connected to.
> RFC2822 says "Though other algorithms will work, it is RECOMMENDED that the
> right hand side contain some domain identifier (either of the host itself or
> otherwise)", so the IP address is not mandatory. Something like the hostname
> by default, or a specified string, would be better.

        We will discuss the solution for this issue. Thanks for your
comment.

Regards,
CY

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RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[Ng C. Y. [Cyng] <cy...@cs...>]

Hi,

> However, today, I tried to reliably send a signed message, which resulted in
> the following in msh.log:
>
> 2003-03-11 15:48:44,194 ERROR [Thread-7]: Since it seems that nobody reads
> our installation notes, we must do it in the exception messages. Hope you
> read them. You did NOT use the endorsed mechanism from JDK 1.4 properly;
> look at <http://xml.apache.org/security/install.html> how to solve this
> problem. Original message
> was "tried to access field org.apache.xpath.XPathContext.m_dtmManager from
> class  org.apache.xml.security.transforms.implementations.FuncHereContext"
> Is there a way around this, or do I just give up and stick with Tomcat 4.0.6
> (which successfully reliably sends signed messages in the brief testing I've
> been doing so far)?

        Have you put xalan.jar in $TOMCAT_HOME/common/endorsed and
$JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/endorsed? Apache XML security library somehow needs
this patch in order to make it work under tomcat-4.1.x.

Regards,
CY

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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Hi Gait,

Yes this is a bug. Thanks for pointing this out. And we have committed the
fix. Basically, we treat it in the same way as other restricted characters
for file names. You know, we try best to indicate the app context by the
directory names. However, if there are restricted characters in app context,
we are forced to generate a "safe" name. :-)

Regards, -Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gait Boxman" <gai...@ti...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 08:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl


> Hi Patrick,
>
> Try specifying null as the MessageListener argument to the Request
> constructor, and app context (*,*,*,*). That is how we got the error.
> Request will setup a default MessageListener, i.e. a
> ClientMessageListenerImpl. This will be constructed from a file URL like
> file://tmp/ebxmlms/request/messageListener/*.*.*.*
> That's where the problem is I think. Originally I thought
findUniqueFilename
> was called , but looking closer at getDefaultMessageListener, it probably
is
> not.
> The request is constructed nicely, only when a message comes in the error
> hits since the filename is invalid.
>
> thnx, Gait.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
> To: <ebx...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl
>
>
> > Hi Gait,
> >
> > I cannot repeat what you described. Basically, I was modifying the
Monitor
> > to make it to use ClientMessageListenerImpl instead of using its own
> > implementation. I specified a directory path as the constructor argument
> of
> > ClientMessageListenerImpl. Then I started the Monitor and registered the
> app
> > context to be (*, *, *, *). And then I sent a loopback message.
> Expectedly,
> > the message can be found correctly in the directory I specified before.
> >
> > So, can you please give us more details about your problem, so that we
can
> > continue to investigate. Thanks.
> >
> > Regards, -Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gait Boxman" <gai...@ti...>
> > To: <ebx...@li...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:11 PM
> > Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl
> >
> >
> > > Hi Patrick,
> > >
> > > we hit a caveat on the asterisk use this week. The
> > > (Client)MessageListenerImpl, which is used if you don't supply your
own
> > > listener, won't accept it since it builds a filename out of the
> > parameters,
> > > which cannot contain asterisks. We had a similar problem with
filenames
> on
> > > the client side, and decided to simple Base64 encode the filename,
which
> > has
> > > worked without trouble so far. Maybe an idea to slip in to
> > DirectoryManager?
> > >
> > > --Gait.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
> > > To: <ebx...@li...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The (CPAid, Service, Action, ConversationID) tuple is what we call
> > > > application context. The client registers its application context
with
> > > > Hermes. Therefore, Hermes can deliver all messages matching the
> > specified
> > > > application context to the client. When Hermes receives a message
with
> > > > application context not yet registered, it doesn't know where to
> deliver
> > > the
> > > > message and so an error message is generated and sent back.
> > > >
> > > > Please note that Hermes will perform exact match over the
application
> > > > context. So, changing the registered ConversationID a bit will
nullify
> > the
> > > > match.
> > > >
> > > > We agree that the conversation ID should be generated by sender and
> the
> > > > receiver should have no idea about that beforehand. To cater this,
we
> > > > support the client to register a "*" to the ConversationID field,
> > meaning
> > > > that the client wants to receive all possible ConversationID. In
fact,
> > "*"
> > > > can be specified to any one of the four fields in application
context,
> > to
> > > > denote a wildcard.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Regards, -Patrick
> > > > --
> > > > Patrick Yee
> > > > System Architect
> > > > Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> > > > Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems
> > > > The University of Hong Kong
> > > > Tel: (852) 22415674
> > > > Fax: (852) 25474611
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "pai" <pa...@ma...>
> > > > To: <ebx...@li...>;
> > > > <ebx...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:11 AM
> > > > Subject: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In the monitoring example application come with distribute
package,
> I
> > > try
> > > > to test
> > > > > Herms ebms with starting two apache tomcat and deploy two Herms
ebms
> > > > > seperately and I try to send message togather.
> > > > > the result is if the two ebms has the same parameters
> > > > > (CPAid,Service,Action,ConversationID),it's working properly but if
> it
> > > use
> > > > > difference parameters just only one parameter such as
> ConversationID,
> > > the
> > > > > result is failed and have an error message back to the sender.
Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe i missed some point because i think sender create message to
> > > > receiver
> > > > > thus sender should be create the ConversationID thus how receiver
> know
> > > the
> > > > > conversionID that useing for registering to Herms ebms server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > >
> > > > > Panu K.
> > > > > T.N. Information Systems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl

[Gait B. <gai...@ti...>]

Hi Patrick,

Try specifying null as the MessageListener argument to the Request
constructor, and app context (*,*,*,*). That is how we got the error.
Request will setup a default MessageListener, i.e. a
ClientMessageListenerImpl. This will be constructed from a file URL like
file://tmp/ebxmlms/request/messageListener/*.*.*.*
That's where the problem is I think. Originally I thought findUniqueFilename
was called , but looking closer at getDefaultMessageListener, it probably is
not.
The request is constructed nicely, only when a message comes in the error
hits since the filename is invalid.

thnx, Gait.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl


> Hi Gait,
>
> I cannot repeat what you described. Basically, I was modifying the Monitor
> to make it to use ClientMessageListenerImpl instead of using its own
> implementation. I specified a directory path as the constructor argument
of
> ClientMessageListenerImpl. Then I started the Monitor and registered the
app
> context to be (*, *, *, *). And then I sent a loopback message.
Expectedly,
> the message can be found correctly in the directory I specified before.
>
> So, can you please give us more details about your problem, so that we can
> continue to investigate. Thanks.
>
> Regards, -Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gait Boxman" <gai...@ti...>
> To: <ebx...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:11 PM
> Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl
>
>
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > we hit a caveat on the asterisk use this week. The
> > (Client)MessageListenerImpl, which is used if you don't supply your own
> > listener, won't accept it since it builds a filename out of the
> parameters,
> > which cannot contain asterisks. We had a similar problem with filenames
on
> > the client side, and decided to simple Base64 encode the filename, which
> has
> > worked without trouble so far. Maybe an idea to slip in to
> DirectoryManager?
> >
> > --Gait.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
> > To: <ebx...@li...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The (CPAid, Service, Action, ConversationID) tuple is what we call
> > > application context. The client registers its application context with
> > > Hermes. Therefore, Hermes can deliver all messages matching the
> specified
> > > application context to the client. When Hermes receives a message with
> > > application context not yet registered, it doesn't know where to
deliver
> > the
> > > message and so an error message is generated and sent back.
> > >
> > > Please note that Hermes will perform exact match over the application
> > > context. So, changing the registered ConversationID a bit will nullify
> the
> > > match.
> > >
> > > We agree that the conversation ID should be generated by sender and
the
> > > receiver should have no idea about that beforehand. To cater this, we
> > > support the client to register a "*" to the ConversationID field,
> meaning
> > > that the client wants to receive all possible ConversationID. In fact,
> "*"
> > > can be specified to any one of the four fields in application context,
> to
> > > denote a wildcard.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Regards, -Patrick
> > > --
> > > Patrick Yee
> > > System Architect
> > > Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> > > Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems
> > > The University of Hong Kong
> > > Tel: (852) 22415674
> > > Fax: (852) 25474611
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "pai" <pa...@ma...>
> > > To: <ebx...@li...>;
> > > <ebx...@li...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:11 AM
> > > Subject: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
> > >
> > >
> > > > In the monitoring example application come with distribute package,
I
> > try
> > > to test
> > > > Herms ebms with starting two apache tomcat and deploy two Herms ebms
> > > > seperately and I try to send message togather.
> > > > the result is if the two ebms has the same parameters
> > > > (CPAid,Service,Action,ConversationID),it's working properly but if
it
> > use
> > > > difference parameters just only one parameter such as
ConversationID,
> > the
> > > > result is failed and have an error message back to the sender. Why?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe i missed some point because i think sender create message to
> > > receiver
> > > > thus sender should be create the ConversationID thus how receiver
know
> > the
> > > > conversionID that useing for registering to Herms ebms server.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > >
> > > > Panu K.
> > > > T.N. Information Systems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The
> > > debugger
> > > > for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling
lost
> > and
> > > > disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on
major
> > UNIX
> > > > and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > ebx...@li...
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Hi Gait,

I cannot repeat what you described. Basically, I was modifying the Monitor
to make it to use ClientMessageListenerImpl instead of using its own
implementation. I specified a directory path as the constructor argument of
ClientMessageListenerImpl. Then I started the Monitor and registered the app
context to be (*, *, *, *). And then I sent a loopback message. Expectedly,
the message can be found correctly in the directory I specified before.

So, can you please give us more details about your problem, so that we can
continue to investigate. Thanks.

Regards, -Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gait Boxman" <gai...@ti...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:11 PM
Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl


> Hi Patrick,
>
> we hit a caveat on the asterisk use this week. The
> (Client)MessageListenerImpl, which is used if you don't supply your own
> listener, won't accept it since it builds a filename out of the
parameters,
> which cannot contain asterisks. We had a similar problem with filenames on
> the client side, and decided to simple Base64 encode the filename, which
has
> worked without trouble so far. Maybe an idea to slip in to
DirectoryManager?
>
> --Gait.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
> To: <ebx...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The (CPAid, Service, Action, ConversationID) tuple is what we call
> > application context. The client registers its application context with
> > Hermes. Therefore, Hermes can deliver all messages matching the
specified
> > application context to the client. When Hermes receives a message with
> > application context not yet registered, it doesn't know where to deliver
> the
> > message and so an error message is generated and sent back.
> >
> > Please note that Hermes will perform exact match over the application
> > context. So, changing the registered ConversationID a bit will nullify
the
> > match.
> >
> > We agree that the conversation ID should be generated by sender and the
> > receiver should have no idea about that beforehand. To cater this, we
> > support the client to register a "*" to the ConversationID field,
meaning
> > that the client wants to receive all possible ConversationID. In fact,
"*"
> > can be specified to any one of the four fields in application context,
to
> > denote a wildcard.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Regards, -Patrick
> > --
> > Patrick Yee
> > System Architect
> > Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> > Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems
> > The University of Hong Kong
> > Tel: (852) 22415674
> > Fax: (852) 25474611
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pai" <pa...@ma...>
> > To: <ebx...@li...>;
> > <ebx...@li...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:11 AM
> > Subject: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
> >
> >
> > > In the monitoring example application come with distribute package, I
> try
> > to test
> > > Herms ebms with starting two apache tomcat and deploy two Herms ebms
> > > seperately and I try to send message togather.
> > > the result is if the two ebms has the same parameters
> > > (CPAid,Service,Action,ConversationID),it's working properly but if it
> use
> > > difference parameters just only one parameter such as ConversationID,
> the
> > > result is failed and have an error message back to the sender. Why?
> > >
> > > Maybe i missed some point because i think sender create message to
> > receiver
> > > thus sender should be create the ConversationID thus how receiver know
> the
> > > conversionID that useing for registering to Herms ebms server.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > >
> > > Panu K.
> > > T.N. Information Systems
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The
> > debugger
> > > for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost
> and
> > > disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major
> UNIX
> > > and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ebxmlms-general mailing list
> > > ebx...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebxmlms-general
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The
> debugger
> > for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost
and
> > disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major
UNIX
> > and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
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>
>
>
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[ebxmlms-develop] Asterisks and (Client)MessageListenerImpl

[Gait B. <gai...@ti...>]

Hi Patrick,

we hit a caveat on the asterisk use this week. The
(Client)MessageListenerImpl, which is used if you don't supply your own
listener, won't accept it since it builds a filename out of the parameters,
which cannot contain asterisks. We had a similar problem with filenames on
the client side, and decided to simple Base64 encode the filename, which has
worked without trouble so far. Maybe an idea to slip in to DirectoryManager?

--Gait.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Yee" <kc...@ce...>
To: <ebx...@li...>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky


> Hi,
>
> The (CPAid, Service, Action, ConversationID) tuple is what we call
> application context. The client registers its application context with
> Hermes. Therefore, Hermes can deliver all messages matching the specified
> application context to the client. When Hermes receives a message with
> application context not yet registered, it doesn't know where to deliver
the
> message and so an error message is generated and sent back.
>
> Please note that Hermes will perform exact match over the application
> context. So, changing the registered ConversationID a bit will nullify the
> match.
>
> We agree that the conversation ID should be generated by sender and the
> receiver should have no idea about that beforehand. To cater this, we
> support the client to register a "*" to the ConversationID field, meaning
> that the client wants to receive all possible ConversationID. In fact, "*"
> can be specified to any one of the four fields in application context, to
> denote a wildcard.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards, -Patrick
> --
> Patrick Yee
> System Architect
> Center for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID)
> Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems
> The University of Hong Kong
> Tel: (852) 22415674
> Fax: (852) 25474611
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pai" <pa...@ma...>
> To: <ebx...@li...>;
> <ebx...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:11 AM
> Subject: [ebxmlms-general] Help please i'm rooky
>
>
> > In the monitoring example application come with distribute package, I
try
> to test
> > Herms ebms with starting two apache tomcat and deploy two Herms ebms
> > seperately and I try to send message togather.
> > the result is if the two ebms has the same parameters
> > (CPAid,Service,Action,ConversationID),it's working properly but if it
use
> > difference parameters just only one parameter such as ConversationID,
the
> > result is failed and have an error message back to the sender. Why?
> >
> > Maybe i missed some point because i think sender create message to
> receiver
> > thus sender should be create the ConversationID thus how receiver know
the
> > conversionID that useing for registering to Herms ebms server.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> >
> > Panu K.
> > T.N. Information Systems
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The
> debugger
> > for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost
and
> > disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major
UNIX
> > and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > ebxmlms-general mailing list
> > ebx...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebxmlms-general
> >
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The
debugger
> for complex code. Debugging C/C++ programs can leave you feeling lost and
> disoriented. TotalView can help you find your way. Available on major UNIX
> and Linux platforms. Try it free. www.etnus.com
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[ebxmlms-develop] Help please i'm rooky

[pai <pa...@ma...>]

In the monitoring example application come with distribute package, I try to test 
Herms ebms with starting two apache tomcat and deploy two Herms ebms 
seperately and I try to send message togather.
the result is if the two ebms has the same parameters 
(CPAid,Service,Action,ConversationID),it's working properly but if it use 
difference parameters just only one parameter such as ConversationID, the 
result is failed and have an error message back to the sender. Why?

Maybe i missed some point because i think sender create message to receiver 
thus sender should be create the ConversationID thus how receiver know the 
conversionID that useing for registering to Herms ebms server.

Thank you very much

Panu K.
T.N. Information Systems

Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes documentation

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

Hermes documentationWe only published install and develop guides. We =
agree that to understand a software product is not easy without detailed =
documentation. We want to work on that, but development is our first =
priority. Meanwhile, we try our best to answer all questions on the =
mailng lists. :-)

For your question, the registration is persistent, even Hermes is =
restarted. If the listener shuts down, and then re-registers with the =
same parameters, Hermes will deliver all undelivered messages to the =
listener, including those messages received during the down time of the =
listener.

We have an unregister function in Request object, which is the only way =
to make Hermes forget about the listener.

Cheers, -Patrick

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mayne, Peter=20
  To: ebx...@li...=20
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:50 PM
  Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes documentation


  Is there any documentation I've overlooked, besides the install and =
develop guides? Discovering the ins and outs of Hermes is quite a =
journey.

  In particular, if a listener registers with a running instance of =
Hermes, how long does that registration last? Can anybody register as a =
listener if a password is used? (It seems so.)

  Thanks.=20

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[ebxmlms-develop] Hermes documentation

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Re: [ebxmlms-develop] synchronous responses for acks and errors

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

We get your point.

We are not supporting SyncMode at the moment. And in more precise term, =
we sometimes use SyncMode and sometimes don't. It is in our TODO list =
that we have to implement SyncMode. This feature will be controlled by =
Request constructors (as it comes from CPA). After that, we expect that =
whether SyncMode is used for error/ack or not will be controlled by =
Request constructors as well.

Regards, -Patrick

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gait Boxman=20
  To: ebx...@li...=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:25 PM
  Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] synchronous responses for acks and errors


  Hi,

  we're interop testing right now in Europe, and found that there may be =
a problem with the synchronous replies for errors and acks. AFAICS, the =
responseMessage is sent back sync in MessageServiceHandler for any type =
of response. This conflicts with the use of ErrorURI etc. It would be =
more useful to at least allow async responses unless the address can not =
be resolved from the incoming message. Not everyone supports SyncMode, =
and it's a possible issue for Mail as well.
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Gait Boxman
  Manager Advanced Technology & Standards
  TIE Product Development BV
  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
  Tel: +31 20 658 9091  Fax: +31 20 658 9945
  E-mail: gai...@ti...  WWW: www.TIEglobal.com
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[Mayne, P. <Pet...@ap...>]

In the Tomcat 4.1.18 distribution, there are only two files in the
common/endorsed directory: xercesImpl.jar and xmlParserAPIs.jar. I presum=
e
you're including xalan.jar (from msh.war, which is already in
msh/WEB-INF/lib) in your 3 files?

PJDM
--=20
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Technology Consultant
Spherion Technology Solutions
Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diego Ballv=E9 [mailto:die...@re...]=20
> Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2003 1:06 AM
> To: ebx...@li...
> Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat=20
> 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?
>=20
>=20
> Hi again,
>=20
> It seems that I have the answer to my own question. :)
>=20
> Tomcat 4.1.18 has a xerces and xalan in different versions than
> ebxmlms. They are located at <tomcat>/common/endorsed directory.
> Maybe the team should consider that for the next release.
>=20
> Meanwhile, to solve the problem copy the 3 files from the endorsed
> directory to <tomcat>/webapps/msh/WEB-INF/lib and restart tomcat
> (you might have to remove the msh.war from webapps).
>=20
> Cheers,
> Diego
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diego Ballv=E9=20
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: ebx...@li...
> Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to
> start - Anything new?
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Anything new about this issue??
> I also have Tomcat 4.1.18 full and j2sdk-1.4.1_01, but=20
> running on Linux.
> ebxmlrr has been working smoothly there but I've spend over=20
> 2h trying to
> find the root cause that "Cannot inherit from final class"=20
> and nothing.
>=20
> Diego
>=20
> --------------------------------------------
> Diego Ballve
> Product Manager
> Republica Corp., Products
> Survontie 9, 40500 Jyv=E4skyl=E4, Finland
> E-mail: die...@re...
> GSM: +358 40 301 1140
> http://www.republica.fi/
> http://www.x-fetch.com/
>=20
>=20
> > I'm using the full version. I'll give the LE version a try=20
> when I get time.
> >=20
> > PJDM
> > --=20
> > Peter Mayne
> > Technology Consultant
> > Spherion Technology Solutions
> > Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
> > T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ng Chi Yuen [Cyng] [mailto:cyng@cs...]=20
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:15 AM
> > > To: 'ebxmlms-develop@li...'
> > > Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat=20
> > > 4.1.18 fails to start
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Hello,
> > >=20
> > > > >         For Tomcat 4.1.x, you have to delete the=20
> servlet.jar in
> > > > > WEB-INF/lib/ of your webapps to avoid conflict with the=20
> > > servlet.jar
> > > > > provided by Tomcat in common/lib/.
> > > >
> > > > I already did that. The problem still occurs.
> > >=20
> > >         Are you using Tomcat 4.1.18 LE version or full=20
> version? I am
> > > also using 4.1.8 LE and j2sdk-1.4.1_01-b01 under Windows=20
> 2000 with no
> > > problem. In LE version, there are fewer libraries bundled in
> > > ${TOMCAT_HOME}/common/lib. servlet.jar is there with NO mail.jar,
> > > activation.jar, etc. Also, there is no xerces libraries in
> > > common/endorsed.
> > >=20
> > > Regards,
> > > CY
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RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[Ng C. Y. [Cyng] <cy...@cs...>]

Hi,

> Tomcat 4.1.18 has a xerces and xalan in different versions than
> ebxmlms. They are located at <tomcat>/common/endorsed directory.
> Maybe the team should consider that for the next release.
>
> Meanwhile, to solve the problem copy the 3 files from the endorsed
> directory to <tomcat>/webapps/msh/WEB-INF/lib and restart tomcat
> (you might have to remove the msh.war from webapps).

        You're right. If tomcat is perfect, each webapp can have its own
set of .jar without patching any file in common/endorsed. If one uses
tomcat 4.1.x LE, he just needs to patch xalan.jar only while xerces.jar,
mail.jar and activation.jar in each webapp can still be loaded correctly.

        Maybe we have to consider how to incorporate the patch in
build.xml by detecting whether one uses tomcat 4.0.x/4.1.x and full/LE
version.

> > >         Are you using Tomcat 4.1.18 LE version or full version? I am
> > > also using 4.1.8 LE and j2sdk-1.4.1_01-b01 under Windows 2000 with no
> > > problem. In LE version, there are fewer libraries bundled in
> > > ${TOMCAT_HOME}/common/lib. servlet.jar is there with NO mail.jar,
> > > activation.jar, etc. Also, there is no xerces libraries in
> > > common/endorsed.

Regards,
CY

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Technology Officer,
Centre for E-Commerce Infrastructure Development,
The University of Hong Kong
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[<die...@re...>]

Hi again,

It seems that I have the answer to my own question. :)

Tomcat 4.1.18 has a xerces and xalan in different versions than
ebxmlms. They are located at <tomcat>/common/endorsed directory.
Maybe the team should consider that for the next release.

Meanwhile, to solve the problem copy the 3 files from the endorsed
directory to <tomcat>/webapps/msh/WEB-INF/lib and restart tomcat
(you might have to remove the msh.war from webapps).

Cheers,
Diego

-----Original Message-----
From: Diego Ballv=E9=20
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:47 PM
To: ebx...@li...
Subject: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to
start - Anything new?


Hi,

Anything new about this issue??
I also have Tomcat 4.1.18 full and j2sdk-1.4.1_01, but running on Linux.
ebxmlrr has been working smoothly there but I've spend over 2h trying to
find the root cause that "Cannot inherit from final class" and nothing.

Diego

--------------------------------------------
Diego Ballve
Product Manager
Republica Corp., Products
Survontie 9, 40500 Jyv=E4skyl=E4, Finland
E-mail: die...@re...
GSM: +358 40 301 1140
http://www.republica.fi/
http://www.x-fetch.com/


> I'm using the full version. I'll give the LE version a try when I get =
time.
>=20
> PJDM
> --=20
> Peter Mayne
> Technology Consultant
> Spherion Technology Solutions
> Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
> T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ng Chi Yuen [Cyng] [mailto:cyng@cs...]=20
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:15 AM
> > To: 'ebxmlms-develop@li...'
> > Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat=20
> > 4.1.18 fails to start
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > > >         For Tomcat 4.1.x, you have to delete the servlet.jar in
> > > > WEB-INF/lib/ of your webapps to avoid conflict with the=20
> > servlet.jar
> > > > provided by Tomcat in common/lib/.
> > >
> > > I already did that. The problem still occurs.
> >=20
> >         Are you using Tomcat 4.1.18 LE version or full version? I am
> > also using 4.1.8 LE and j2sdk-1.4.1_01-b01 under Windows 2000 with =
no
> > problem. In LE version, there are fewer libraries bundled in
> > ${TOMCAT_HOME}/common/lib. servlet.jar is there with NO mail.jar,
> > activation.jar, etc. Also, there is no xerces libraries in
> > common/endorsed.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > CY


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[ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat 4.1.18 fails to start - Anything new?

[<die...@re...>]

Hi,

Anything new about this issue??
I also have Tomcat 4.1.18 full and j2sdk-1.4.1_01, but running on Linux.
ebxmlrr has been working smoothly there but I've spend over 2h trying to
find the root cause that "Cannot inherit from final class" and nothing.

Diego

--------------------------------------------
Diego Ballve
Product Manager
Republica Corp., Products
Survontie 9, 40500 Jyv=E4skyl=E4, Finland
E-mail: die...@re...
GSM: +358 40 301 1140
http://www.republica.fi/
http://www.x-fetch.com/


> I'm using the full version. I'll give the LE version a try when I get =
time.
>=20
> PJDM
> --=20
> Peter Mayne
> Technology Consultant
> Spherion Technology Solutions
> Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
> T: 61 2 62689727  F: 61 2 62689777
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ng Chi Yuen [Cyng] [mailto:cyng@cs...]=20
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:15 AM
> > To: 'ebxmlms-develop@li...'
> > Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Hermes 0.9.3.0 with Tomcat=20
> > 4.1.18 fails to start
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > > >         For Tomcat 4.1.x, you have to delete the servlet.jar in
> > > > WEB-INF/lib/ of your webapps to avoid conflict with the=20
> > servlet.jar
> > > > provided by Tomcat in common/lib/.
> > >
> > > I already did that. The problem still occurs.
> >=20
> >         Are you using Tomcat 4.1.18 LE version or full version? I am
> > also using 4.1.8 LE and j2sdk-1.4.1_01-b01 under Windows 2000 with =
no
> > problem. In LE version, there are fewer libraries bundled in
> > ${TOMCAT_HOME}/common/lib. servlet.jar is there with NO mail.jar,
> > activation.jar, etc. Also, there is no xerces libraries in
> > common/endorsed.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> > CY