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Midtown Madness 1 (again)

2025-04-22
2025-04-24
  • BEEN_Nath_58

    BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-22

    The media in MyAbandonware looks close enough to mine so that can be used.

    On top of that, install the XP patch so that it doesn't use the unsupported RTT format for textures.

    On my computer the game needs Limit video memory

    1. The intro video isn't scaled correctly when run in Colour emulation
    2. The game crashes after intro video. There was a setting that worked but I can't find it.

    There can be more issues but I need to get into the game first

     

    Last edit: BEEN_Nath_58 2025-04-22
    • huh

      huh - 2025-04-22

      Well that's interesting, it seems I had the game installed but for some reason I deleted it and I don't even have it in my archive. I don't do that very often so there must have been a special reason for it.

       
  • huh

    huh - 2025-04-22

    @BEEN_Nath_58
    The game has SafeDisc protection. Are you sure this patch will remove it?

     
    • BEEN_Nath_58

      BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-22

      Yes

       
      • huh

        huh - 2025-04-22

        The game plays 2 intros and then next DxWnd logo appears so another exe is launched. I believe it is MIDTOWN.icd and that is what is causing the crash.

         
        • BEEN_Nath_58

          BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-22

          There was a setting in Tweaks tab that prevents the crash.

          It is not related to the icd file, any SafeDisc1 game will use ICDs. The game runs natively as well

           
          • huh

            huh - 2025-04-22

            OK, it works without DxWnd, so something is wrong. I won't be here today, I'll try tomorrow.

             
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  • huh

    huh - 2025-04-23

    I tried that but couldn't get a working configuration with DxWnd. Here in Win7 the game is in the MS Shim database. Maybe one of them conflicts with DxWnd.
    All I know is that the game loads ui.ar before it crashes.

     
  • BEEN_Nath_58

    BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23

    I think I found something, give me half an hour

     
    • huh

      huh - 2025-04-23

      OK, I got some results with Hot patch. But I have too many flags turned on, I need to clean it up.

       
  • huh

    huh - 2025-04-23

    Try it.

     

    Last edit: huh 2025-04-23
  • BEEN_Nath_58

    BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23

    This?

     
    • BEEN_Nath_58

      BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23

      Lol our timings overlapped

       
      • huh

        huh - 2025-04-23

        OK, I see I can't get any further than the menu. Well, maybe next time.

         
        • BEEN_Nath_58

          BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23

          Did my profile work for you

           
          • huh

            huh - 2025-04-23

            Your profile works fine. I can't believe that two flags were enough: 16bit and Support offscreen 3D off. Unbelievable.

             
            • BEEN_Nath_58

              BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23

              Two things still aren't right:
              1. Extended hook for Colour emulation method. You can press Windows button in Menu and it won't work; losing focus makes it irrecoverable as well
              2. The music plays sometimes and sometimes doesn't. The fix is simple: to hide non primary audio devices. It should only see 1 output device

               
              • huh

                huh - 2025-04-23
                1. It works for me with NoSHIMs.
                 
                • BEEN_Nath_58

                  BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-23
                  1. Okay NOSHIMS brings back windows button. But if you hide the game and bring it back, it gets a black screen
                   
                  • huh

                    huh - 2025-04-24

                    Well, nothing is perfect, but the current result is very good. Maybe that's why the game has the IgnoreAltTab shim?

                    1. It used to happen to me, but I think it's gotten better, here's my profile just in case.
                     

                    Last edit: huh 2025-04-24
                    • BEEN_Nath_58

                      BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-24

                      I am reaching home now.

                      There is a minus button on top right which can hide the game, but DxWnd doesn't handle it. Natively it works completely fine, so its a feature not a bug :)

                       
                      • huh

                        huh - 2025-04-24

                        I know it does. However, you can get to the desktop by pressing keys start/win + D. That works. I don't think it's a big bug, the game is playable.

                         
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                        • BEEN_Nath_58

                          BEEN_Nath_58 - 2025-04-24

                          Win D works. I can delay this bug for now. But this exists in any game with minimise function

                          The other and only problem is in multi audio output

                           

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