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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 02:52:29PM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Or better if you want to do something with the 1.3 tree, you'll need a 2.6
>>kernel host.
>>    
>>
>
>sh*t... :/ we need to get this fixed :(
>
>  
>
I have no idea how. I tried a lot of things but none of them worked...

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 02:52:29PM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> Or better if you want to do something with the 1.3 tree, you'll need a 2.6
> kernel host.

sh*t... :/ we need to get this fixed :(

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 02:34:34PM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>
>> But it won't hurt when you take a look at it too, I could have missed
>> something.
> so, making the long history short... i need a 2.6 kernel to compile a 2.6
> kernel...

In the DL case, yes.
Or better if you want to do something with the 1.3 tree, you'll need a 2.6
kernel host.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 02:34:34PM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> But it won't hurt when you take a look at it too, I could have missed
> something.
so, making the long history short... i need a 2.6 kernel to compile a 2.6 kernel...
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] systems with low memory

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:

> Heiko Zuerker wrote on 06.09.2004 16:51 MET:
>
>> Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I was just thinking if we should modify all the tar commands we use 
>>> in DL (save-config, init system) to work better on low memory systems.
>>> According to 'man bunzip2' the '-s' parameter should help us, but 
>>> will at least take twice as long.
>>>
>>> Without this modification, DL 1.2 will not run on 32 MB systems.
>>>
>>> What do you think? I think we should do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just finished my testing and checked in the changes into the 1.2 
>> tree. 1.3 will come later, I have to finish first the test compile.
>>
>> I didn't not add any intelligence to use he '-s' flag only on low 
>> memory systems, since the performance impact is much less then I 
>> initially thought.
>> The archives are so small, that it doesn't take much longer to unpack 
>> them. We still can add this if we have to, but I would suggest to 
>> wait and see.
>> Biggest impact was the removal of the clamav virus signatures and the 
>> squidguard blacklists.
>>
>> DL can now boot again with only 20 MB of RAM !
>> I'm sure we could bring it down to 16, but that's not the goal of DL. 
>> So the official minimum will be 32 MB.
>
>
> Another hint for 32MB systems is to disable jailing for bind as that 
> will save you about 12 MB of RAM which is "wasted" by the jail.
>
> I had to do this to get 1.2RC1 working correctly with 32 MB.
>
Yes this is a good point, all the chroot jails need a lot of RAM !

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] ADSL init script patch

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Zsiros Zsolt wrote:

>Hi Developers,
>
>I created a patch of the adsl init script which can read more pppoe.conf
>files and start more adsl connections.
>There is also a patch for /etc/sysconfig/config file.
>The patched init script looks for ADSL_CONFIGS parameter and if it isn't
>empty then looks for given config files and starts connections. If the
>parameter is empty or commented out then tries to start with the default
>config file (/etc/ppp/pppoe.conf).
>If you find this patch useful then please apply it to the cvs.
>  
>

I added this to my todo folder, could take a while until I get a chance...


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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] shfs lost - 1.2 branch

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Serge Leschinsky wrote:

>Dear Bruce,
>
>Thursday, September 30, 2004, 5:13:36 PM, you wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>cvs, make mrproper, unpack, build etc
>>>      
>>>
>
>BS> Did you remember to make "prepare"?
>
>of course!
>  
>
>>root:/data/build# make unpack prepare build install iso dist
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
Didn't you use a Fedora system?
If yes, try it on something else.....

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] coreutils error - 1.2 branch

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Serge Leschinsky wrote:

>Dear Heiko,
>
>Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:24:55 AM, you wrote:
>  
>
>>>executing coreutils with option build (in
>>>/data/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1)
>>>ERROR
>>>/data/build/scripts/coreutils build failed
>>>check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/coreutils for details
>>>make: *** [build] Error 1
>>>      
>>>
> CFLAGS="-fno-pic"  resolve the trouble
>
>
> 
>  
>
But why does it fail ?
It compiles fine on my machines.

Turning off pic (Position Independent Code) adds some more security risks...

I just moved into a new city, once the chaos is over I'll start a new 
compile and double check on how it behaves here.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] [PATCH] serial console added (optional) to install-on-usb

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Frank Pieczynski wrote:

>Hello,
>here comes a small patch adding the option of a serial console to 
>the grub boot loader configuration.
>The user will get a basic configuration of a serial console in grub and can 
>change for example the serial speed later, when the config file is loaded 
>into editor during the installtion process.
>Additionally a normal VGA console is configured.
>I'm tired to change this again and again :-)
>
>Please review/check/apply.
>If you think this is too much selection, then at least the example of a serial 
>console should to the comment part inside of the grub.conf file.
>  
>
Thanks for the patch, I added it to my todo list.
It most likely will be a while until I get a chance to work on it.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 04:56:50PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>> >glibc/nptl... can we just use a plain lfs, with no nptl?
>
>> We need some kind of thread support and replacing linuxthreads with nptl
>> at runtime didn't work.
>>
>> Looks like the 1.3 tree will require a build host with kernel 2.6.....
>
> is there a patch for 2.4.27 that incluides nptl?

Not really
Redhat had something messy for a much older kernel, but I didn't find
anything newer.

But it won't hurt when you take a look at it too, I could have missed
something.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 04:56:50PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> >glibc/nptl... can we just use a plain lfs, with no nptl?

> We need some kind of thread support and replacing linuxthreads with nptl 
> at runtime didn't work.
> 
> Looks like the 1.3 tree will require a build host with kernel 2.6.....

is there a patch for 2.4.27 that incluides nptl?

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.2RC1 Missing Includes

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>It seems like the only reason for optionally including the compiler was
>for using "distcc".  And it also seems like Heiko was talking about
>removing that option all together.
>
>I'm sure Heiko can provide more insight when he gets back.  He's
>currently offline for a few days.
>  
>

Yes it will require some major changes to the build system.
All the scripts remove the include and some of the library files to 
conserve space on the media.

Run a
grep include scripts/*
and you'll see this is done in almost all scripts.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 06:15:18PM +0200, Diego Torres wrote:
>
>  
>
>># ./cvs.chroot
>>cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage
>>    
>>
>
>i think its because i need nptl on my kernel to chroot to a
>glibc/nptl... can we just use a plain lfs, with no nptl?
>  
>
Hmmmm....
We need some kind of thread support and replacing linuxthreads with nptl 
at runtime didn't work.

Looks like the 1.3 tree will require a build host with kernel 2.6.....

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.2RC1 Missing Includes

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

It seems like the only reason for optionally including the compiler was
for using "distcc".  And it also seems like Heiko was talking about
removing that option all together.

I'm sure Heiko can provide more insight when he gets back.  He's
currently offline for a few days.

 - BS


> In my quest for a smaller, leaner and customizable version of a Linux 
> distribution, I've been evaluating devil-linux.  So far I'm happy, with 
> the following exception:
> 
> I've recently downloaded and installed the 1.2RC and been trying to get 
> a personalized subset version up and working using the tools.  I've been 
> able to compile and setup everything I needed (Under Suse 9.1 Pro w/LFS 
> from the ftp site).  I want to be able use GCC/G++ development off the 
> bootable CDROM.  When I select the option to include GCC, I get the 
> compiler and all of the required libraries, but the /usr/include 
> directory is basically empty of all the files needed for development.
> 
> Is there an option to enable the include directory into the ISO or do I 
> have to do some hacking to the build system?
> 
> -Jeff Bakke

[Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.2RC1 Missing Includes

[Jeffrey P. B. <jp...@la...>]

Hello,

In my quest for a smaller, leaner and customizable version of a Linux 
distribution, I've been evaluating devil-linux.  So far I'm happy, with 
the following exception:

I've recently downloaded and installed the 1.2RC and been trying to get 
a personalized subset version up and working using the tools.  I've been 
able to compile and setup everything I needed (Under Suse 9.1 Pro w/LFS 
from the ftp site).  I want to be able use GCC/G++ development off the 
bootable CDROM.  When I select the option to include GCC, I get the 
compiler and all of the required libraries, but the /usr/include 
directory is basically empty of all the files needed for development.

Is there an option to enable the include directory into the ISO or do I 
have to do some hacking to the build system?

-Jeff Bakke



Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> Diego Torres wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:35:21PM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> If I don't do this, we need to have 2 different lfssystems for 1.3 
>>> and the build system itself will get quite a bit more complicated.....
>>>
>>> Anybody got a major problem with that?
>>>   
>>
>>
>> i'm not against moving dl to 2.6, but i don't like that the build system
>> has also to be 2.6... mainly because i'm not using it...
>>
>>  
>>
> Actually it should work now with a 2.4 host. I updated the lfssystem on 
> the server.
> 
>> how complicated is complicated? :)
>>  
>>
> A lot.
> 

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 06:15:18PM +0200, Diego Torres wrote:

> # ./cvs.chroot
> cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage

i think its because i need nptl on my kernel to chroot to a
glibc/nptl... can we just use a plain lfs, with no nptl?
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[Devil-linux-develop] ADSL init script patch

[Zsiros Z. <zs...@ma...>]

Hi Developers,

I created a patch of the adsl init script which can read more pppoe.conf
files and start more adsl connections.
There is also a patch for /etc/sysconfig/config file.
The patched init script looks for ADSL_CONFIGS parameter and if it isn't
empty then looks for given config files and starts connections. If the
parameter is empty or commented out then tries to start with the default
config file (/etc/ppp/pppoe.conf).
If you find this patch useful then please apply it to the cvs.

Bye,
Zsolt

[Devil-linux-develop] Missing /etc/iproute2/rt_* files

[Zsiros Z. <zs...@ma...>]

Hi Developers,

I can't found /etc/iproute2/rt_* files in default config file
etc.tar.bz2.
I think there is a missing line in /build/scripts/iproute2 file which
copies them to its place.
I'm sorry but I don't have current building system and can't provide a
patch of it.

Zsolt

Re[2]: [Devil-linux-develop] coreutils error - 1.2 branch

[Serge L. <se...@nn...>]

H>>> executing coreutils with option build (in
>>> /data/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1)
>>> ERROR
>>> /data/build/scripts/coreutils build failed
>>> check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/coreutils for details
>>> make: *** [build] Error 1
SL>  CFLAGS="-fno-pic"  resolve the trouble
 diff in the attachment

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Re[2]: [Devil-linux-develop] shfs lost - 1.2 branch

[Serge L. <se...@nn...>]

Dear Bruce,

Thursday, September 30, 2004, 5:13:36 PM, you wrote:

>> cvs, make mrproper, unpack, build etc

BS> Did you remember to make "prepare"?

of course!
> root:/data/build# make unpack prepare build install iso dist

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] shfs lost - 1.2 branch

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> cvs, make mrproper, unpack, build etc

Did you remember to make "prepare"?

> Try to use shfsmount
> > shfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel
> 
> looking for the shfs module
> > root@Deviant:~ # ls /lib/modules/2.4.27/kernel/fs/
> > coda  jbd  minix  ntfs        reiserfs  smbfs  xfs
> > ext3  jfs  nls    quota_v2.o  romfs     udf
> 
> absent...
> 
> > root:/data/build# grep "SHFS" /build/.config
> > CONFIG_SHFS=y
> > root:/data/build# ls /build/tmp/.done_*_shfs
> > /build/tmp/.done_build_shfs  /build/tmp/.done_install_shfs
> 
> Had I really broken something? What it could be?

[Devil-linux-develop] shfs lost - 1.2 branch

[Serge L. <se...@nn...>]

Hello devil-linux-develop,

cvs, make mrproper, unpack, build etc

Try to use shfsmount
> shfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel

looking for the shfs module
> root@Deviant:~ # ls /lib/modules/2.4.27/kernel/fs/
> coda  jbd  minix  ntfs        reiserfs  smbfs  xfs
> ext3  jfs  nls    quota_v2.o  romfs     udf

absent...

> root:/data/build# grep "SHFS" /build/.config
> CONFIG_SHFS=y
> root:/data/build# ls /build/tmp/.done_*_shfs
> /build/tmp/.done_build_shfs  /build/tmp/.done_install_shfs

Had I really broken something? What it could be?

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] coreutils error - 1.2 branch

[Serge L. <se...@nn...>]

Dear Heiko,

Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:24:55 AM, you wrote:
>> executing coreutils with option build (in
>> /data/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1)
>> ERROR
>> /data/build/scripts/coreutils build failed
>> check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/coreutils for details
>> make: *** [build] Error 1
 CFLAGS="-fno-pic"  resolve the trouble


 
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[Devil-linux-develop] coreutils error - 1.2 branch

[Serge L. <se...@nn...>]

Dear Heiko.

I CVS'ed yesterday.

make mrproper , unpack, prepare, build

> executing compartment with option build (in /data/build/tmp/compartment)
> 
> executing coreutils with option build (in /data/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1)
> ERROR
> /data/build/scripts/coreutils build failed
> check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/coreutils for details
> make: *** [build] Error 1

>  vi /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/coreutils
> gcc  -g -O2   -o whoami  whoami.o ../lib/libfetish.a  ../lib/libfetish.a
> if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../lib   -g -O2 -MT yes.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yes.Tpo" -c -o yes.o yes.c; \
> then mv -f ".deps/yes.Tpo" ".deps/yes.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yes.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
> gcc  -g -O2   -o yes  yes.o ../lib/libfetish.a  ../lib/libfetish.a
> if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -I.. -I. -I../lib -I../lib   -g -O2 -MT uname.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/uname.Tpo" -c -o uname.o uname.c; \
> then mv -f ".deps/uname.Tpo" ".deps/uname.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/uname.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
> uname.c: In function `main':
> uname.c:364: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type
> uname.c:276: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm'
> uname.c:277: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm'
> make[4]: *** [uname.o] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory `/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1/src'
> make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1/src'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1'
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/tmp/coreutils-5.2.1'

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] DL 1.3 & kernel 2.4

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 08:12:16AM -0400, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> Cool.
> Some parts still don't compile, if you hit one of those just de-select 
> it via menuconfig. It would then be awesome if you could help me fix 
> those packages.

# ./cvs.chroot
cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage

ops... i'm still wondering with all the error msgs that i've never seen before :)

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