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From: Naomi M. <na...@sm...> - 2006-05-04 14:57:32
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There is no opt-in or opt-out functionality at the mo. On 4 May 2006, at 15:47, Adam Marshall wrote: > Was anybody from UHI going to respond to any of my other queries > (ie, those > in the first half which Al didn't comment upon)? > > We're quite keen to be involved in the speccing out of this tool to > make it > as useful as possible. > > adam > > | -----Original Message----- > | > | On 2 May 2006, at 10:30, Adam Marshall wrote: > | > | > > | > > | > > | > Bodders: > | > > | > We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. > | > > | > In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of > | > our users > | > have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd > | > like to > | > open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK > | > > | > The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an > | > installation > | > option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. > | > It sounds > | > like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! > | > How about > | > something like the following (supported by some underlying code > | > obviously). > | > > | > "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are > | > happy to > | > join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific > group > | > will be > | > able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email > | > will be > | > handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual > | > email > | > addresses" > | > > | > We also have some questions: > | > > | > Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that > | > comes from > | > the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time > the > | > LDAP > | > feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email > | > address is > | > changed, does this new address get imported? > | > > | > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are > there 2 > | > separate emails in the system? > | > > | > Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned > | > that people > | > may 'spam colleagues'. > | > > | > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? > | > > | > Cheers > | > > | > adam > | > > | From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young > | Sent: 02 May 2006 10:36 > | To: bod...@li... > | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Group Emailer > | > | I can maybe answer some backend questions Adam. > | > | > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications > | we use the email that's against their record in the bod database. In > | our case, that comes from LDAP. The source of the email address will > | be different for different installations of bod. > | > | > Does this get overwritten each time the LDAP > | > feed is processed? > | yes, for us anyway. > | > | > What's if a user gets married and their email address is > | > changed, does this new address get imported? > | yes. We use institutional email addresses from LDAP, not personal > | hotmail ones. > | > | > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? > | I would have said - they'd be ignored. If the user can't manage > their > | inbox that's their problem. In our case, their inbox is managed by > | UHI so it would be a helpdesk issue. > | > | Alistair > | > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-05-04 14:54:24
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> surfing or other beach activity somewhere down this way like Cornwall? hey, I could knock up a tetra in the morning if it means boogy on the beach in the afternoon :) where do I sign? Alistair On 4 May 2006, at 15:38, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > Yes what happened to Tetra? when is the next meeting, how about > combining it with surfing or other beach activity somewhere down > this way like Cornwall? > Tetra seemed to be the promise of a level playing field where we > could also contribute pieces... > > Sel > > ps. We are really planning to offer a mix of OSS dissemination > event and surfing / beach life [even if its just a barbeque and > excuse to paddle] probably be before or after the busy holiday > period down here. > > Adam Marshall wrote: > >> IMS Tools Interop. standard is finally out (a couple of months ago >> actually). >> I haint looked myself, but we really should investigate as it is >> probably of >> importance to tetra. >> It struck me that Brian appears to actually like reading horrendously >> complex techie books so maybe he'd like to do the honours with IMS >> TI! >> >> http://www.imsglobal.org/ti/tiv1p0/imsti_guidev1p0.html >> >> By the way, what ever happened to tetra? >> >> adam >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, >> security? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >> job easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache >> Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-05-04 14:50:41
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So are we as part of trecx. When not work together on this one? Look at our wiki: http://ltg.oucs.ox.ac.uk/wiki/index.php/Trecx:TReCX Alexis is as we speak mocking up the query page. It will go into the wiki when done. Alexis will then inform the list. As part of trecx we are NOT going to do the pretty formatting of tracking data, all you'll get is a CSV file plus text/plain output to a browser. adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Antony Corfield | Sent: 04 May 2006 15:39 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] feedback on what's in head | | Excellent, thanks Matthew. Naomi will be developing a UI to query and | display user tracking stats... | | Antony | | On 4 May 2006, at 13:50, Matthew Buckett wrote: | | > Matthew Buckett wrote: | >> an...@sm... wrote: | >>> Matthew, any news on getting tracking in to HEAD? | >> I might be able todo it next week as I'm stuck donig other stuff for | >> most of the rest of this week. | > | > Basic tracking stuff is on CVS HEAD now. | > | > -- | > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer | > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services | > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, | > security? | > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | > easier | > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache | > Geronimo | > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? | > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-05-04 14:48:05
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Was anybody from UHI going to respond to any of my other queries (ie, those in the first half which Al didn't comment upon)? We're quite keen to be involved in the speccing out of this tool to make it as useful as possible. adam | -----Original Message----- | | On 2 May 2006, at 10:30, Adam Marshall wrote: | | > | > | > | > Bodders: | > | > We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. | > | > In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of | > our users | > have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd | > like to | > open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK | > | > The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an | > installation | > option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. | > It sounds | > like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! | > How about | > something like the following (supported by some underlying code | > obviously). | > | > "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are | > happy to | > join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific group | > will be | > able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email | > will be | > handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual | > email | > addresses" | > | > We also have some questions: | > | > Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that | > comes from | > the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time the | > LDAP | > feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email | > address is | > changed, does this new address get imported? | > | > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 | > separate emails in the system? | > | > Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned | > that people | > may 'spam colleagues'. | > | > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? | > | > Cheers | > | > adam | > | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young | Sent: 02 May 2006 10:36 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Group Emailer | | I can maybe answer some backend questions Adam. | | > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications | we use the email that's against their record in the bod database. In | our case, that comes from LDAP. The source of the email address will | be different for different installations of bod. | | > Does this get overwritten each time the LDAP | > feed is processed? | yes, for us anyway. | | > What's if a user gets married and their email address is | > changed, does this new address get imported? | yes. We use institutional email addresses from LDAP, not personal | hotmail ones. | | > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? | I would have said - they'd be ignored. If the user can't manage their | inbox that's their problem. In our case, their inbox is managed by | UHI so it would be a helpdesk issue. | | Alistair | |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-05-04 14:41:32
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Excellent, thanks Matthew. Naomi will be developing a UI to query and > display user tracking stats... Doing some more tracking now on creation/edit/delete/restore time for resources. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-04 14:39:16
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Excellent, thanks Matthew. Naomi will be developing a UI to query and display user tracking stats... Antony On 4 May 2006, at 13:50, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Matthew Buckett wrote: >> an...@sm... wrote: >>> Matthew, any news on getting tracking in to HEAD? >> I might be able todo it next week as I'm stuck donig other stuff for >> most of the rest of this week. > > Basic tracking stuff is on CVS HEAD now. > > -- > -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer > -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services > -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-05-04 14:37:48
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Yes what happened to Tetra? when is the next meeting, how about combining it with surfing or other beach activity somewhere down this way like Cornwall? Tetra seemed to be the promise of a level playing field where we could also contribute pieces... Sel ps. We are really planning to offer a mix of OSS dissemination event and surfing / beach life [even if its just a barbeque and excuse to paddle] probably be before or after the busy holiday period down here. Adam Marshall wrote: >IMS Tools Interop. standard is finally out (a couple of months ago >actually). > >I haint looked myself, but we really should investigate as it is probably of >importance to tetra. > >It struck me that Brian appears to actually like reading horrendously >complex techie books so maybe he'd like to do the honours with IMS TI! > > http://www.imsglobal.org/ti/tiv1p0/imsti_guidev1p0.html > >By the way, what ever happened to tetra? > >adam > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Bodington-developers mailing list >Bod...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-05-04 14:36:13
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> what ever happened to tetra? last seen chasing Elvis on Shergar across Lord Lucan's lawn! Alistair On 4 May 2006, at 15:28, Adam Marshall wrote: > IMS Tools Interop. standard is finally out (a couple of months ago > actually). > > I haint looked myself, but we really should investigate as it is > probably of > importance to tetra. > > It struck me that Brian appears to actually like reading horrendously > complex techie books so maybe he'd like to do the honours with IMS TI! > > http://www.imsglobal.org/ti/tiv1p0/imsti_guidev1p0.html > > By the way, what ever happened to tetra? > > adam > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-05-04 14:28:20
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IMS Tools Interop. standard is finally out (a couple of months ago actually). I haint looked myself, but we really should investigate as it is probably of importance to tetra. It struck me that Brian appears to actually like reading horrendously complex techie books so maybe he'd like to do the honours with IMS TI! http://www.imsglobal.org/ti/tiv1p0/imsti_guidev1p0.html By the way, what ever happened to tetra? adam |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2006-05-04 12:57:34
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Thanks, sorted now but when I browsed bod cvs on sourceforge the last > commit for manage.html was v1.3 by Matthew - javascript stuff! Guess > this is anonymous access - update via developer name in my ide shows diffs! > > Cheers, > antony > Yep, fair enough. To be honest I notice that currently it's beyond sourceforge's powers to allow peasants such as myself to browse the CVS repository through the web interface! Alexis |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2006-05-04 12:50:48
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Matthew Buckett wrote: > an...@sm... wrote: >> Matthew, any news on getting tracking in to HEAD? > > I might be able todo it next week as I'm stuck donig other stuff for > most of the rest of this week. Basic tracking stuff is on CVS HEAD now. -- -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-04 09:50:56
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Thanks, sorted now but when I browsed bod cvs on sourceforge the last commit for manage.html was v1.3 by Matthew - javascript stuff! Guess this is anonymous access - update via developer name in my ide shows diffs! Cheers, antony On 4 May 2006, at 09:54, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > Antony Corfield wrote: >> ... so which files have been updated and committed to bodington HEAD? > > OK, just to re-cap(!). > > It was *only* the 'web document' tool that was affected (it does have > a very similar icon to the one for 'structured document'!). It had no > links to set the release date, but these have now been added. Thus the > only file that was affected was: > > tomcatadd/webapps/bodington/templates/style_default/mediadocument/ > manage.html > > ... which was committed to bodington HEAD at '2006-04-24 15:55'. > > > Alexis > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...> - 2006-05-04 08:54:10
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Antony Corfield wrote: > ... so which files have been updated and committed to bodington HEAD? > OK, just to re-cap(!). It was *only* the 'web document' tool that was affected (it does have a very similar icon to the one for 'structured document'!). It had no links to set the release date, but these have now been added. Thus the only file that was affected was: tomcatadd/webapps/bodington/templates/style_default/mediadocument/manage.html ... which was committed to bodington HEAD at '2006-04-24 15:55'. Alexis |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-03 17:31:54
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... so which files have been updated and committed to bodington HEAD? On 24 Apr 2006, at 16:45, Colin Tatham wrote: > Alexis O'Connor wrote: >> A manage.html was created for mediadocument a while ago (presumably >> to add the 'Import CP' option) presumably before 'set release date' >> was added to the one in 'default', so it didn't have one - it does >> now! > > mediadocument (in code) = web document (in interface) > > Sean said: > > I see that structured document doesn't have one either. > > ... but it does, so presumably everyone's happy now. > > Colin > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: M T. <m....@gm...> - 2006-05-03 15:45:18
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Yep, I've received a report that something odd happened when you altered yo= u display colours on our 2.6 test box, but I've not had chance to look into it! -- m.cha3l On 03/05/06, Colin Tatham <col...@ou...> wrote: > > Antony Corfield wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed this or is it just us?! > > > > At campus level changing graphics colours under document page colours > > and navigation page colours changes all icon colours. However lower dow= n > > the tree it only seems to affect the navigation colours in the top > frame! > > I noticed that recently too. Wasn't sure at the time whether it was > something that I'd fiddled with in my installation the previous time I > ran it... > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > http://bodington.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...> - 2006-05-03 15:39:09
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Thanks, Paul - an interesting document. I didn't read it, but I did search it. Bodington 0 hits Moodle 14 hits interoperability 13 hits osid 5 hits oki 7 hits sakai 9 hits shibboleth 0 hits web services 0 hits I look forward to seeing the SUNY LMS. Regards, Brian > Hi, > > I'm forwarding an OBHE report on the evaluation of VLEs carried out by > SUNY. Oxford used to subscribe to OBHE, but not now, so I haven't read > it. However, I think Leeds does have a current subscription. > > We did get some contact from them in the past (re Bodington > installation) but then things went silent. In October SUNY announced > that they are building their own system, as reported by Michael > Feldstein in his blog: > http://mfeldstein.com/index.php/weblog/permalink/suny_proposes_to_build_a_learning_management_operating_system/ > > "SLN Technology Strategy Report: Request for Public Comment (SLN RFPC). > This document identifies a candidate solution that will integrate the > open source application Uportal with best in class tools from other open > source applications, including Sakai and LAMS." > > See links of their Learning Network page at: > http://sln.suny.edu/index.html > > OBHE article may be worth reading for future promotion of Bod. > > Regards, > > Paul > --- > pau...@ou... > WebLearn: http://www.weblearn.ox.ac.uk/ > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [OBHE-alert] The latest Observatory Report is now available > Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 14:12:47 +0100 > From: Info Observatory <in...@ob...> > Organisation: OBHE > To: obh...@ob... > > > > The latest Monthly Report from the Observatory on Borderless Higher > Education is now available to subscribers. > > Apples to Apples: Guidelines for Comparative Evaluation of Proprietary > and Open Educational Technology Systems > > by Dr. Ken Udas, Director, and Michael Feldstein, Assistant Director, > SUNY Learning Network at the State University of New York, USA. > > Selecting a learning management technology has increasingly become a > mission critical and strategic decision for higher education > institutions. As technology supported and online learning has become > more prevalent and learning management technologies more important > institutional features, the selection environment has become > increasingly complex. This paper presents a comparative model developed > specifically for evaluating learning management software for adoption > decisions in which open source software (OSS) and proprietary options > are under consideration in higher education. It is intended to support > senior academic administrators and policy makers who are responsible for > or influence the software evaluation and selection process by proposing > a methodology that accounts for organisational context and software > system characteristics, while also providing the advantage of > cross-organisational comparison. > > The full text is available to subscribers at: > http://www.obhe.ac.uk/products/reports/ > > **** The Observatory has recently made some exciting changes to its > website. New features include an improved site search engine, which is > available at http://www.obhe.ac.uk/cgi-bin/swish.pl?si=0&si=1&query=. If > you have any feedback about these changes, please do not hesitate to > contact us using our new feedback form at > http://www.obhe.ac.uk/feedback.html **** > > The Observatory currently has over 150 institutional subscribers from > more than forty countries. For a list of current subscribers, and > details of how to subscribe, please visit: > http://www.obhe.ac.uk/subscriptions/ > > _______________________________________________ > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, please go to: > https://secure.acu.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obhe-alert > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-05-03 15:21:11
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Has anyone else noticed this or is it just us?! > > At campus level changing graphics colours under document page colours > and navigation page colours changes all icon colours. However lower down > the tree it only seems to affect the navigation colours in the top frame! I noticed that recently too. Wasn't sure at the time whether it was something that I'd fiddled with in my installation the previous time I ran it... -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2006-05-03 15:07:16
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Has anyone else noticed this or is it just us?! At campus level changing graphics colours under document page colours and navigation page colours changes all icon colours. However lower down the tree it only seems to affect the navigation colours in the top frame! Antony |
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From: Paul T. <pau...@ou...> - 2006-05-03 14:54:26
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Hi, I'm forwarding an OBHE report on the evaluation of VLEs carried out by SUNY. Oxford used to subscribe to OBHE, but not now, so I haven't read it. However, I think Leeds does have a current subscription. We did get some contact from them in the past (re Bodington installation) but then things went silent. In October SUNY announced that they are building their own system, as reported by Michael Feldstein in his blog: http://mfeldstein.com/index.php/weblog/permalink/suny_proposes_to_build_a_learning_management_operating_system/ "SLN Technology Strategy Report: Request for Public Comment (SLN RFPC). This document identifies a candidate solution that will integrate the open source application Uportal with best in class tools from other open source applications, including Sakai and LAMS." See links of their Learning Network page at: http://sln.suny.edu/index.html OBHE article may be worth reading for future promotion of Bod. Regards, Paul --- pau...@ou... WebLearn: http://www.weblearn.ox.ac.uk/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [OBHE-alert] The latest Observatory Report is now available Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 14:12:47 +0100 From: Info Observatory <in...@ob...> Organisation: OBHE To: obh...@ob... The latest Monthly Report from the Observatory on Borderless Higher Education is now available to subscribers. Apples to Apples: Guidelines for Comparative Evaluation of Proprietary and Open Educational Technology Systems by Dr. Ken Udas, Director, and Michael Feldstein, Assistant Director, SUNY Learning Network at the State University of New York, USA. Selecting a learning management technology has increasingly become a mission critical and strategic decision for higher education institutions. As technology supported and online learning has become more prevalent and learning management technologies more important institutional features, the selection environment has become increasingly complex. This paper presents a comparative model developed specifically for evaluating learning management software for adoption decisions in which open source software (OSS) and proprietary options are under consideration in higher education. It is intended to support senior academic administrators and policy makers who are responsible for or influence the software evaluation and selection process by proposing a methodology that accounts for organisational context and software system characteristics, while also providing the advantage of cross-organisational comparison. The full text is available to subscribers at: http://www.obhe.ac.uk/products/reports/ **** The Observatory has recently made some exciting changes to its website. New features include an improved site search engine, which is available at http://www.obhe.ac.uk/cgi-bin/swish.pl?si=0&si=1&query=. If you have any feedback about these changes, please do not hesitate to contact us using our new feedback form at http://www.obhe.ac.uk/feedback.html **** The Observatory currently has over 150 institutional subscribers from more than forty countries. For a list of current subscribers, and details of how to subscribe, please visit: http://www.obhe.ac.uk/subscriptions/ _______________________________________________ If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, please go to: https://secure.acu.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obhe-alert |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-05-02 15:55:21
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Alistair Young wrote: > The reply-to is set to the email address of the user who's doing the > emailing so they'll get the spam and not the mailer. > > The mailer just initiates the conversation. Then there's the issue (mentioned previously) of whether the user doing the emailing is entitled to know the email address of the recipient, but dunno if that's really an issue... > Of course, Naomi will put me right if the above is a load of tosh! > > Alistair > > On 2 May 2006, at 15:47, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > >> Not that I'm a bod developer, but one other thing to consider... >> >> Those annoying out of office replys which then spam mail groups when >> mailing list members have set an out of office reply up... >> >> does the UHI group emailer deal with them? [the emails ... not the >> member :)] >> >> We are just doing some group email stuff so these kind of generic use >> cases / behavioural patterns are of interest. >> >> Selwyn >> >> Adam Marshall wrote: >> >>> >>> Bodders: >>> >>> We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. >>> In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of >>> our users >>> have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd >>> like to >>> open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK >>> >>> The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an >>> installation >>> option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. >>> It sounds >>> like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! >>> How about >>> something like the following (supported by some underlying code >>> obviously). >>> >>> "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are >>> happy to >>> join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific group >>> will be >>> able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email >>> will be >>> handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual >>> email >>> addresses" >>> >>> We also have some questions: >>> >>> Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that >>> comes from >>> the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time the >>> LDAP >>> feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email >>> address is >>> changed, does this new address get imported? >>> >>> Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 >>> separate emails in the system? >>> >>> Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned that >>> people >>> may 'spam colleagues'. >>> >>> What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> adam -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-05-02 15:00:30
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The reply-to is set to the email address of the user who's doing the emailing so they'll get the spam and not the mailer. The mailer just initiates the conversation. Of course, Naomi will put me right if the above is a load of tosh! Alistair On 2 May 2006, at 15:47, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > Not that I'm a bod developer, but one other thing to consider... > > Those annoying out of office replys which then spam mail groups > when mailing list members have set an out of office reply up... > > does the UHI group emailer deal with them? [the emails ... not the > member :)] > > We are just doing some group email stuff so these kind of generic > use cases / behavioural patterns are of interest. > > Selwyn > > Adam Marshall wrote: > >> >> Bodders: >> >> We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. >> In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of >> our users >> have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd >> like to >> open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK >> >> The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an >> installation >> option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. >> It sounds >> like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! >> How about >> something like the following (supported by some underlying code >> obviously). >> >> "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are >> happy to >> join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific >> group will be >> able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email >> will be >> handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual >> email >> addresses" >> >> We also have some questions: >> >> Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that >> comes from >> the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time >> the LDAP >> feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email >> address is >> changed, does this new address get imported? >> >> Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 >> separate emails in the system? >> >> Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned >> that people >> may 'spam colleagues'. >> >> What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? >> >> Cheers >> >> adam >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, >> security? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >> job easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache >> Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2006-05-02 14:56:14
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> From: Selwyn Lloyd > Those annoying out of office replys which then spam mail groups when=20 > mailing list members have set an out of office reply up... >=20 > does the UHI group emailer deal with them? [the emails ... not the=20 > member :)] Shame, I'd deal with the list administrator who set up reply-to-list as the list behaviour. Where did I put that clue-by-four...? This is endemic with mailing lists that set reply-to-list rather than reply-to-sender. I'd assume the UHI group emailer set reply-to-sender, as a) it's a way of disseminating information to a group rather than encouraging discussion between all members of a group and b) the group has no presence on the email system, only on the VLE. But I'm guessing here, and could be wrong :-). - Peter |
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-05-02 14:47:17
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Not that I'm a bod developer, but one other thing to consider... Those annoying out of office replys which then spam mail groups when mailing list members have set an out of office reply up... does the UHI group emailer deal with them? [the emails ... not the member :)] We are just doing some group email stuff so these kind of generic use cases / behavioural patterns are of interest. Selwyn Adam Marshall wrote: > >Bodders: > >We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. > >In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of our users >have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd like to >open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK > >The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an installation >option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. It sounds >like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! How about >something like the following (supported by some underlying code obviously). > >"You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are happy to >join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific group will be >able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email will be >handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual email >addresses" > >We also have some questions: > >Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that comes from >the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time the LDAP >feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email address is >changed, does this new address get imported? > >Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 >separate emails in the system? > >Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned that people >may 'spam colleagues'. > >What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? > >Cheers > >adam > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Bodington-developers mailing list >Bod...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-05-02 09:36:56
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I can maybe answer some backend questions Adam. > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications we use the email that's against their record in the bod database. In our case, that comes from LDAP. The source of the email address will be different for different installations of bod. > Does this get overwritten each time the LDAP > feed is processed? yes, for us anyway. > What's if a user gets married and their email address is > changed, does this new address get imported? yes. We use institutional email addresses from LDAP, not personal hotmail ones. > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? I would have said - they'd be ignored. If the user can't manage their inbox that's their problem. In our case, their inbox is managed by UHI so it would be a helpdesk issue. Alistair On 2 May 2006, at 10:30, Adam Marshall wrote: > > > > Bodders: > > We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. > > In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of > our users > have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd > like to > open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK > > The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an > installation > option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. > It sounds > like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! > How about > something like the following (supported by some underlying code > obviously). > > "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are > happy to > join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific group > will be > able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email > will be > handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual > email > addresses" > > We also have some questions: > > Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that > comes from > the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time the > LDAP > feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email > address is > changed, does this new address get imported? > > Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 > separate emails in the system? > > Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned > that people > may 'spam colleagues'. > > What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? > > Cheers > > adam > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2006-05-02 09:32:54
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Bodders: We've just had a bit of a gab here about the UHI group emailer. In principle we're very interested in this tool as quite a few of our users have been badgering us for a similar sort of functionality. We'd like to open up discussion about this. Hope this is OK The main issue we have is that we feel that there should be an installation option as to whether the whole thing is opt-in or opt-out process. It sounds like UHI imagine it an opt out process, we'd like it to be opt-in! How about something like the following (supported by some underlying code obviously). "You belong to these groups. Please indicate which groups you are happy to join for email. This will mean that any member of a specific group will be able to send email to the signed up members of this group. Email will be handled by the system, so users will not gain access to individual email addresses" We also have some questions: Can users change their 'default' email address, ie, the one that comes from the LDAP? Or is this fixed? Does this get overwritten each time the LDAP feed is processed? What's if a user gets married and their email address is changed, does this new address get imported? Do you use this LDAP-sourced email for notifications, or are there 2 separate emails in the system? Is there a facility to state who can email who? We're concerned that people may 'spam colleagues'. What happens to bounces, say if the user mailbox is full? Cheers adam |
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